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Hello Amy,

I know you're worried about your baby, but you're so ahead of the game right

now. He's 18 months old and you're taking action. When I raised concerns about

my son's slow language progression at his 18 month check up, I followed the

advice I was given and waited until his 24 month check up because " boys are just

slower to talk than girls " . He didn't start receiving speech therapy until he

was 27 months old! Your son is covered by Part C of the IDEA from birth to the

age of three, so you should contact your local Early Intervention Program to

schedule an evaluation for him. He will be evaluated by a team of professionals

(physical therapist, occupational therapist, speech and language pathologist,

psychologist and social case worker). If they determine that he has a

developmental delay(s), they will propose a therapy plan for him. The therapy

may be free, covered by insurance or provided on a sliding scale fee basis.

There are a few good websites with screening questionnaires/assessment scales

for autism. These are not diagnostic tools, but they may give you more insight

or peace of mind re: your fears on that topic.

At www.autism.com/atec/ you can complete a questionnaire and have it scored on

the internet. It was actually designed as a tool to gauge various therapy

techniques, but might give you some idea re: autistic

characteristics/tendencies. Another site is www.childbrain.com a Pediatric

Neurology site which has a pediatric assessment scale/screening questionnaire

that also gives you an internet score.

Good luck and welcome. KIM

[ ] scared and looking for answers

I am relatively new to this borad but i am driving myself CRAZY with

worry! My 18 month old son is pretty much non verbal. he says mama

dada hot hat and hi, but only when prompted and not always toward the

correct item. He also babbles a lot. He has no other developmental

problems that we can see, and had great gross and fine motor skills.

I've noticed a sort of regression in him over the last several

months. He used to say shoe, now he doesnt, he used to give us

kisses, now he will only kiss our neighbor's little girl. He is

still very affectionate but doesn't respond to us most of the time

when we call him by his name. He usually doesnt follow simple

commands. He has no SI problems that I have noticed. He doesnt have

problems with fixation or changes in routine.

We have had his hearing tested and it is borderline normal (he had

trouble localizing sound). His OAR at birth was perfect. He has fluid

in his middle ear space and they are removing it when they put tubes

in his ears next month. Other than that he really doesnt have

anything outstanding going on. He has an appointment to meet with a

speech/language specialist.

He is not aloof but he does seem to go his own way and is content to

play on his own. he can watch disney movies till the cown come

home! He smiles at other kids and sometimes interacts with them. He

doesn't respond to our speech purposefully most of the time, but

there are certain key phrases he knows for sure and reacts

appropriately (i.e. d you want to go outside? " ).

I worry about apraxia, autism (especialy autism), PDD, APD, AN and

the like. I am fearing the unknown I guess. how can I tell if he

has one of those things or if he is jus a late talker?

Does any one out there have any suggestions for me? It's tearing me

up inside, which I know is not good for my family. I'm upset just

typing about it. ny information or advice will be gratefully

accepted.

Thanks,

Amy

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Amy,

Kim's note was excellent. Just a few more thoughts for you. Always

look at your son's strengths in addition to his weaknesses. Be open

to any suggested ways to remediate his deficits and be creative about

developing compensatory strategies. If he does indeed have a

disability try to be positive and forward thinking. Don't dwell on

what your child can't do, its better to focus on what he can do.

As you go along, you may find that professionals don't know all the

programs, therapies and techniques that may be available. So, ask

lots of questions and do lots of research to investigate all options

for him. You may even find yourself in a position of educating the

professionals who may work with your son. Even though it can be

tiring, keep " doing your homework " as he grows. My daughter is almost

19 and there are many more opportunities for her now, than there were

5 years ago.

Lastly, follow what is in your heart and don't let professionals

scare you about the future for your son. I'll never forget a negative

comment made to me by a pediatrician when my daughter was 2 1/2 years

old. I was told bluntly that " she'll never go to Harvard " . Well, she

may not be going to Harvard, but after a lot of hard work she is

going to community college! We are even investigating programs for

her to own a home and own a small home based business! So, take what

doctors and specialists say with a grain of salt.

I wish you the best with your son. Good luck and keep your chin up.

Tina

> Hello Amy,

>

> I know you're worried about your baby, but you're so ahead of the

game right now. He's 18 months old and you're taking action. When I

raised concerns about my son's slow language progression at his 18

month check up, I followed the advice I was given and waited until

his 24 month check up because " boys are just slower to talk than

girls " . He didn't start receiving speech therapy until he was 27

months old! Your son is covered by Part C of the IDEA from birth to

the age of three, so you should contact your local Early Intervention

Program to schedule an evaluation for him. He will be evaluated by a

team of professionals (physical therapist, occupational therapist,

speech and language pathologist, psychologist and social case

worker). If they determine that he has a developmental delay(s),

they will propose a therapy plan for him. The therapy may be free,

covered by insurance or provided on a sliding scale fee basis.

>

> There are a few good websites with screening

questionnaires/assessment scales for autism. These are not

diagnostic tools, but they may give you more insight or peace of mind

re: your fears on that topic.

>

> At www.autism.com/atec/ you can complete a questionnaire and have

it scored on the internet. It was actually designed as a tool to

gauge various therapy techniques, but might give you some idea re:

autistic characteristics/tendencies. Another site is

www.childbrain.com a Pediatric Neurology site which has a pediatric

assessment scale/screening questionnaire that also gives you an

internet score.

>

> Good luck and welcome. KIM

> [ ] scared and looking for answers

>

>

> I am relatively new to this borad but i am driving myself CRAZY

with

> worry! My 18 month old son is pretty much non verbal. he says

mama

> dada hot hat and hi, but only when prompted and not always toward

the

> correct item. He also babbles a lot. He has no other

developmental

> problems that we can see, and had great gross and fine motor

skills.

>

> I've noticed a sort of regression in him over the last several

> months. He used to say shoe, now he doesnt, he used to give us

> kisses, now he will only kiss our neighbor's little girl. He is

> still very affectionate but doesn't respond to us most of the

time

> when we call him by his name. He usually doesnt follow simple

> commands. He has no SI problems that I have noticed. He doesnt

have

> problems with fixation or changes in routine.

>

> We have had his hearing tested and it is borderline normal (he

had

> trouble localizing sound). His OAR at birth was perfect. He has

fluid

> in his middle ear space and they are removing it when they put

tubes

> in his ears next month. Other than that he really doesnt have

> anything outstanding going on. He has an appointment to meet

with a

> speech/language specialist.

>

> He is not aloof but he does seem to go his own way and is content

to

> play on his own. he can watch disney movies till the cown come

> home! He smiles at other kids and sometimes interacts with

them. He

> doesn't respond to our speech purposefully most of the time, but

> there are certain key phrases he knows for sure and reacts

> appropriately (i.e. d you want to go outside? " ).

>

> I worry about apraxia, autism (especialy autism), PDD, APD, AN

and

> the like. I am fearing the unknown I guess. how can I tell if

he

> has one of those things or if he is jus a late talker?

>

> Does any one out there have any suggestions for me? It's tearing

me

> up inside, which I know is not good for my family. I'm upset

just

> typing about it. ny information or advice will be gratefully

> accepted.

> Thanks,

> Amy

> Ashlyn114@a...

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Amy,

Amy's absolutely right - tap into the early intervention services in

your area (it may take a few weeks to get through the paperwork and

set up appointments). In my experience - consider going to a

pediatric neurologist or developmental pediatrician ASAP. I have one

of each (twins) one's severly apraxic and one's autistic. I knew by

18 months that something wasn't right - I knew and was poo poo'd by

the pediatrician " they're twins " , " they were early " , " don't compare

them " - at the 18 mos checkup, he wanted me to wait for the 2 year.

At the 2 year he wanted me to wait and come back at 2 1/2. I said -

no way, I'm not waiting anymore and went to the neurologist. My only

warning is to research the neurologists before you go. There's

probably a group in your area ( group, support group, etc.) who

can give you real HONEST recommendations on neurologists (parents are

your best sources for information).

Don't wait...Trust your gut. If you think somethings just not right -

you truly know best. The early the intervention, the better the

outcome.

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Thanks to the few individal who have answered my posting so far. You

have helped make me feel like I am not totally nuts or alone with

this. I just want the best thing for my baby, and I feel like I have

gained a lot of insight and knowledge just from readingother people's

stories.

God Bless all of you, and if anyone had any additional insight or

wishes to share their story with me, please feel free!

Amy C.

> I am relatively new to this borad but i am driving myself CRAZY

with

> worry! My 18 month old son is pretty much non verbal. he says

mama

> dada hot hat and hi, but only when prompted and not always toward

the

> correct item. He also babbles a lot. He has no other

developmental

> problems that we can see, and had great gross and fine motor skills.

>

> I've noticed a sort of regression in him over the last several

> months. He used to say shoe, now he doesnt, he used to give us

> kisses, now he will only kiss our neighbor's little girl. He is

> still very affectionate but doesn't respond to us most of the time

> when we call him by his name. He usually doesnt follow simple

> commands. He has no SI problems that I have noticed. He doesnt

have

> problems with fixation or changes in routine.

>

> We have had his hearing tested and it is borderline normal (he had

> trouble localizing sound). His OAR at birth was perfect. He has

fluid

> in his middle ear space and they are removing it when they put

tubes

> in his ears next month. Other than that he really doesnt have

> anything outstanding going on. He has an appointment to meet with

a

> speech/language specialist.

>

> He is not aloof but he does seem to go his own way and is content

to

> play on his own. he can watch disney movies till the cown come

> home! He smiles at other kids and sometimes interacts with them.

He

> doesn't respond to our speech purposefully most of the time, but

> there are certain key phrases he knows for sure and reacts

> appropriately (i.e. d you want to go outside? " ).

>

> I worry about apraxia, autism (especialy autism), PDD, APD, AN and

> the like. I am fearing the unknown I guess. how can I tell if he

> has one of those things or if he is jus a late talker?

>

> Does any one out there have any suggestions for me? It's tearing

me

> up inside, which I know is not good for my family. I'm upset just

> typing about it. ny information or advice will be gratefully

> accepted.

> Thanks,

> Amy

> Ashlyn114@a...

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Hi

my son was completely " normal " but began to regress at 18months -

losing language and social skills over the following six months. He

was diagnosed with autism at about 26 months.It was , without doubt ,

the most horrifying thing i have had to cope with.

I understand that you are scared of such a diagnosis - i remeber how

it feels only too clearly. But preventative action now can make HUGE

differences. EFA's are very useful for children with social as well

as languauge skills so i would start with those now- today

It is nonsense to believe that there is no therapy which will help

autism inspite of the gloomy reaction you will get from health

professionals. my closest friend has had her sons diagnosis of autism

removed after two years of dietary therapy. One to one therapies can

also produce incredible results - especially if started as young as

your little one is.

I know you need to focus now - and it may not be that your child is

autistic at all BUT please mail me if he has started narrowing his

food selections or started craving certain foods. Also if he has had

anti-biotics in the last few months - or if he had his MMR and had

any kind of reaction. I have some web-sites that you may wish to look

at and considerfor helpful therapies( parents groups like this one

not pills and potions for sale!) .

Finally - i remeber reading comments when i had just realised that

Charlies problems may be a form of autism , and people tried to

encourage me to be positive. I thought they were crazy - i was losing

my son and people were saying to be positive( i only see their wisdom

now). So I'd just try and encourage you to keep putting one foot in

front of the other and read and learn all you can - as quick as you

can. I spent time crying and hiding under the duvet and that lost me

so much precious time. Your child is and always will be worth it. One

day you will know that your love was unchanged throughout this time ,

in spite of your fear. For now you just need to start fighting for

him, because however great or small his problems you are his hope and

his champion. You can do this , you just don't know it yet

good luck

mail me if i can help at all

regards

Deborah D

> I am relatively new to this borad but i am driving myself CRAZY

with

> worry! My 18 month old son is pretty much non verbal. he says

mama

> dada hot hat and hi, but only when prompted and not always toward

the

> correct item. He also babbles a lot. He has no other

developmental

> problems that we can see, and had great gross and fine motor skills.

>

> I've noticed a sort of regression in him over the last several

> months. He used to say shoe, now he doesnt, he used to give us

> kisses, now he will only kiss our neighbor's little girl. He is

> still very affectionate but doesn't respond to us most of the time

> when we call him by his name. He usually doesnt follow simple

> commands. He has no SI problems that I have noticed. He doesnt

have

> problems with fixation or changes in routine.

>

> We have had his hearing tested and it is borderline normal (he had

> trouble localizing sound). His OAR at birth was perfect. He has

fluid

> in his middle ear space and they are removing it when they put

tubes

> in his ears next month. Other than that he really doesnt have

> anything outstanding going on. He has an appointment to meet with

a

> speech/language specialist.

>

> He is not aloof but he does seem to go his own way and is content

to

> play on his own. he can watch disney movies till the cown come

> home! He smiles at other kids and sometimes interacts with them.

He

> doesn't respond to our speech purposefully most of the time, but

> there are certain key phrases he knows for sure and reacts

> appropriately (i.e. d you want to go outside? " ).

>

> I worry about apraxia, autism (especialy autism), PDD, APD, AN and

> the like. I am fearing the unknown I guess. how can I tell if he

> has one of those things or if he is jus a late talker?

>

> Does any one out there have any suggestions for me? It's tearing

me

> up inside, which I know is not good for my family. I'm upset just

> typing about it. ny information or advice will be gratefully

> accepted.

> Thanks,

> Amy

> Ashlyn114@a...

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I am currently assisting my dad with his cancer therapy, called Gerson Therapy.

There have been patients cured that were given 3-6 mos. to live and are alive 12

years + today cancer-free and never any return of cancer cells. (Inoperable

cancers in third stages have been completely reversed) I urge you to look at the

gerson.org website. They have an informative DVD/Video called Gerson Miracle.

I feel so grateful to know about this information. Also, find the list of case

studies, and you can look up colon cancer patients and even talk to them about

the therapy that saved their lives.

My father has prostate cancer, and in only first 2 weeks of therapy his

prostate shrank from it's enlarged state.

All my best,

rebecca

srjenkins92 wrote - It appears I have advanced colon cancer.

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HI, I am sorry about your cancer. It is up to you how you want to deal with it.

In your history of looking at natural ways to heal did you find the Gerson

Therapy? There are three similar diets you can research. The Gerson Therapy. The

Budwig Therapy. And Dr.Day's at drday.com. Here is some info for you. I wish

you the best. I am sorry they didn't catch your cancer sooner. I think many

cancers have something to do with candida. Interestingly some things used

against cancer kill candida too like Pau d'arco tea. And sugar feeds cancer and

candida.

The two protocols or diets I believe in most are The Gerson Therapy and Dr.

Day's diet (www.drday.com). They are similar. The Gerson Therapy is full of

juices (veggie) and slow cooked veggies, and potatoes, and oatmeal. It is low

salt and high potassium because the potassium opens up the cells and lets toxins

out. The Gerson Therapy has been successful with cancer. I know of a man who

eliminated his esophageal cancer with the therapy. No herbs, these diets are

food changes. The Gerson Therapy has cleansing enemas. (www.gerson.org).

The diet that Dr. Lorraine Day used to eliminate her breast cancer is found in

her video called " You Can't Improve on God " .

The Gerson Therapy: You need to stay on the diet for approximately 2 years. I

have lupus. One time I drank three juices (spinach and carrot) in one day. By

the evening I HAD NO PAIN AND NO INFLAMMATION. I felt as good as I did when I

was a child. But the therapy is very time consuming. You have to get a juicer.

And juice.

In labs if you give oxygen to cancer cells they die. Deprive them of oxygen and

they grow. Cancer cells are anaerobic and feed on sugar. Carrot juice, however,

has so many healing properties that you shouldn't be afraid to drink it, unless

you are diabetic. If you are diabetic, you can increase the amount of greens in

your juices.

I believe in all of this. Here are some great books for you to get, available at

Amazon.com.

The Gerson Therapy, by Charlotte Gerson, 2000

Nutrition, The Cancer Answer by Maureen Kennedy Salaman

" A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer " , Max

Gerson, MD 1959

" Alternative Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer " lists doctors across the

nation with their numbers and addresses who have reversed cancer in their

patients through diet therapy with or without traditional methods. This book

goes over the common protocols of the doctors and how to make appointments.

" Flax Oil As a True Aid Against Arthritis Heart Infarction Cancer and Other

Diseases "

this book was written by a 7 time nominee for the Nobel Prize. It explains how

saturated fats block healing, and seed fats like flax seed and sesame, etc. give

off electrons which heal. She has taken people who have cancer with only 1 or 2

hours to live and saved them with her flax seed oil regimen. She is a doctor, a

scientist, not a quack, and her discoveries about flax seed and proteins are

extraordinary. This book is a must.

" One Answer to Cancer " The entire book is available on-line at

http://www.drkelley.com/CANLIVER55.html

" One Answer to Cancer " was written by Dr. Kelley who cured himself of

pancreatic cancer in the 60's using a similar diet to Dr. Gerson's with the

addition of a lot of pancreatic enzymes. Pancreatic enzymes do not just stay in

the digestive tract. They circulate throughout the body and eat the shield that

protects cancer cells allowing the immune system to kill the cancer.

Vitamin B17 or leatrile - in countries who eat lots of foods that contain b17 (

certain berries, grains, and plants) there is little or no cancer It is a

vitamin many people are missing in today's American diet foods that contain it

are found on line. It is also called amygdalin.

hallelujah acres www.hacres.com site dedicated to natural healing. This man

had colon cancer and began a strict regimen of carrot juice and barley green

powder. The tumor shrunk and he is still alive 17 years later.

The standard American diet leaches vitamins and minerals from the body. The key

is to flood the body with nutrients and enzymes to make it alkaline

(oxygen-rich). In an oxygen rich body, cancer cannot grow easily. AVOID sugar

(feeds cancer), avoid wheat and corn unless it is whole wheat, avoid milk

products unless it is organic yogurt or cottage cheese, avoid red meats and

animal fats, avoid trans fats, hydrolyxed vegetable proteins, and msg (processed

foods) People who have gone as natural as possible have the most success with

diet.

Take selenium, constant farming methods have depleted this antioxidant mineral

from the soil, and thus, from our vegetables. Eat only organic.

I recommend highly Dr. Lorraine Day's video " You Can't Improve on God " for a

good start. She cured herself of breast cancer and her 85 year old mother of

arthritis.

Take care,

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I would get rid of the tumor and then look into natural treatments, I have

advanced breast cancer and that's what I did, had the surgery, did some chemo

and now am relying on organic foods and tons of supplements, good luck, I know

it's hard, I was only 36 when diagnosed

C

srjenkins92 wrote:

I have advanced colon cancer.--the tumor is so large that I am

frightened not to go straight to surgery.

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So sorry to hear your news, but I'm so glad to hear that you are

looking to alternative treatments. The truth is that chemo and

radiation in addition to being harmful to healthy cells are also not

very effective. I guess my instinct would be to have the surgery to

remove the tumor and then look to alternatives to chemo/radiation

after the surgery. Surgery can be effective if the cancer is

localized. If it has spread, surgery is not so successful.

You have had a lot of good advice already, and it's very difficult to

wade through all of the different alternative treatments. I just

bought a fantastic book called " Outsmart Your Cancer, " by Harter

Pierce that I would HIGHLY recommend. You can find out more at

http://www.outsmartyourcancer.com/

The author has done all the research for you and waded through tons of

alternative treatments, picked the top ones that have strong evidence

of working and broken it all down. All the treatments that others have

mentioned so far are discussed in the book. It is fascinating to read

so far (I am only about 50 pages in at this point).

There is also great info that others have mentioned here. You have

come to the right place. God bless you.

Maggie

>

>

> Dear friends,

> This past week, I had a colonoscopy to determine the cause of the

> increasing blood in my stool and the ever-worsening diarrhea that

> has plagued me now for two years. It appears I have advanced colon

> cancer. I am 48 years old with a wife and three daughters; I'd like

> to live a bit longer.

>

> By way of explanation, I had a colonoscopy a year and a half ago

> prompted by the first appearance of blood. The results were clean.

> When the bleeding continued, I pursued other options. I was tested

> twice for parasites, treated once. No results; the blood continued

> and then began to include occasional diarreha. I started going to

> other kinds of medical practitioners -- chinese medicine doctors,

> osteopaths, herbalists, an amish healer. I experimented with

> various diets and herbal supplements, but all to no avail. Finally,

> nearly incapacitated by the frequent diarreha, I decided to go back

> to the gastro-enterologist. And, as I said, I had another

> colonoscopy last week and it detected the cancer.

>

> My question is " Is it too late to try an alternative to surgery,

> chemo and radiation? " My diarreha and bleeding are so bad the and

> the discomfort is so pronounced and the tumor is so large that I am

> frightened not to go straight to surgery.

>

> So, I am looking for next steps and I will be most grateful for any

> advice. I am looking under every bush for an answer. Thanks.

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Another highly recommended book is called " To Life " A Guide To Finding

Your Way Back To Health

by Tsalaky

Chronicles the lives of 20 brave individuals who took responsibility

for their own serious health problems. Rather than allowing mainstream

medicine to dictate conventional therapies (which seldom work), these

self healers saw through the illusion and set out to discover alternative

treatments. The book will help one overcome fear and frustration of

healing themselves. The testimonies are well documented w/ remedies and

nutrients used. If wellness is your goal, then read about all the help

available to you along the path.

Seek wellness and you will find it.

Kindly,

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My cancer had spread and the surgery was very successful, it depends, and chemo

does work for some people as well, I know several people that are cancer free

thanks to chemo. I believe in combining both traditional and alternative

treatments as that has worked for me :-)

C

Maggie wrote:

So sorry to hear your news, but I'm so glad to hear that you are

looking to alternative treatments. The truth is that chemo and

radiation in addition to being harmful to healthy cells are also not

very effective. I guess my instinct would be to have the surgery to

remove the tumor and then look to alternatives to chemo/radiation

after the surgery. Surgery can be effective if the cancer is

localized. If it has spread, surgery is not so successful.

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Hello,

Please take a look at http://www.royalrife.com/cancer.html and listen to the

audio on " 100 years... " at the bottom of the page.

Loyd http://www.royalrife.com

[ ] scared and looking for answers

Dear friends,

This past week, I had a colonoscopy to determine the cause of the

increasing blood in my stool and the ever-worsening diarrhea that

has plagued me now for two years. It appears I have advanced colon

cancer. I am 48 years old with a wife and three daughters; I'd like

to live a bit longer.

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That book also sounds great. I love to read these stories. It fills

me with such hope. This group in general is hopeful, whereas my first

visit to the oncology clinic was not. That place was covered by a

dark cloud of fear. I'm grateful to have found this group!

Maggie

>

> Another highly recommended book is called " To Life " A Guide To Finding

> Your Way Back To Health

> by Tsalaky

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Yes, that's true, and I didn't mean to imply that chemo never works.

I personally would not go that route at first--would try other things

first.

>

> My cancer had spread and the surgery was very successful, it

depends, and chemo does work for some people as well, I know several

people that are cancer free thanks to chemo. I believe in combining

both traditional and alternative treatments as that has worked for me :-)

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Hi Maggie, I'm studying to be a master herbalist, but I also believe in a total

mind/body/spirit approach to health and healing. Do you have any unresolved

emotional problems? Do you have a lot of stress in your life? Are you holding

back or holding emotions in? I know this is all part of my healing problems. I

have so much baggage that I'm carrying around with me. I have eaten healthy for

many years now, mainly vegetarian and lately vegan. I exercise regularly and

have never been really overweight. You would think I was the picture of health,

especially since I've never felt sick. But I have so much stress in my life

each day and I'm lugging around baggage from my childhood that has followed me

into my adulthood. You really have to come at health from all angles. Proper

nutrition is a great place to start, combined with exercise, but it's just the

beginning. Mental health and spirituality are also important. So is what you

breathe in. Are you using common cleaner and

detergents? Are you using cosmetics and skincare that have artificial colors

and fragrances and chemicals that can be absorbed into your body? Are you

wearing clothes that allow your body to breathe, rather than synthetics? What

about the water you drink and bathe in? I know it's an awful lot to think

about. It's nearly impossible to do it all right, but each day I try to add

more positives while eliminating more negatives as I learn about them. So many

people think health begins and ends with food and medication, but it doesn't.

There's so much more and I cannot stress the mental/emotional/spiritual aspect

of health and healing enough. It does make a HUGE difference. I remember the

night I let my family know exactly what I thought of them. I mean they never

ask how I'm feeling or doing, they never lighten my load or burden. I feel

needed, but not loved or appreciated. These feelings have built up and they are

toxic emotions that need to be let out. I could go on and

on, but I'll stop now. Please examine all aspects of your life, not just the

obvious food related ones. My blessings are with you. Cheryl

Maggie <magaggie68@...> wrote:

That book also sounds great. I love to read these stories. It fills

me with such hope. This group in general is hopeful, whereas my first

visit to the oncology clinic was not. That place was covered by a

dark cloud of fear. I'm grateful to have found this group!

Maggie

>

> Another highly recommended book is called " To Life " A Guide To Finding

> Your Way Back To Health

> by Tsalaky

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On that note, " You Can Heal Your Life " by Louise Hay really helps to learn about

yourself and be OK with who you are. In the back of her book, there are pages

of illnesses and the negative thought patterns that accompany those illnessnes

and the positive affirmations and self-talk to change that pattern with. I love

this book.

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> Hi Maggie, I'm studying to be a master herbalist, but I also believe

in a total mind/body/spirit approach to health and healing.

Cheryl,

I don't have cancer, but this is great advice that we can all learn

something from.

Maggie

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My condolences for such a terrible course of events.

I have had 3 years of medical school at UCLA (but dropped out out of

a strong dislike of hospitals) - so I have studied and seen similar

cases at UCLA. One important finding: if you go forward with

hospital system treatments, then surgery is the least destructive of

their main offerings. That is: drugs and radiation for cancer

are " KILLERS " (extremely destructive as well as being largely

ineffective). Alternative medicine treatments can work well in

parallel with surgery, but drugs and radiation so poison the body

that parallel treatments can do little afterward to help.

In your own situation, life with a colostomy (and colostomy tubes)

would be a nightmare. You are fighting for your LIFE, however.

Sincerely,

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In a message dated 12/15/04 3:38:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

hrhdavid@... writes:

> In your own situation, life with a colostomy (and colostomy tubes)

> would be a nightmare. You are fighting for your LIFE, however.

>

A friend of mine received an ileostomy in his early 20's. He went on to

become a stage performer, married and had children. He has led a full and happy

life. Isn't that what it's all about? Loretta Young, the famous actress, had

a similiar operation. It didn't hamper her life.

You might want to ask your doctors to take out as little as is safely

possible. Think positively and embrace life.

Blessings,

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