Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 4:58:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mark_sarmac@... writes: << I'm really mad. I thought this " Bob " was the reverend in this Crew and then I find out today that it's CrystalBob? I'm with Marcus, what are you playing at " Bob " , if that is your real name? It seems like you're suffering from some delusion of grandeur by calling yourself, Pastor. If that's the case, GET HELP! >> I am sooooooooooooo confused here Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 I'm really mad. I thought this " Bob " was the reverend in this Crew and then I find out today that it's CrystalBob? I'm with Marcus, what are you playing at " Bob " , if that is your real name? It seems like you're suffering from some delusion of grandeur by calling yourself, Pastor. If that's the case, GET HELP! Mark ----Original Message Follows---- Reply-To: NF2_Crew To: <NF2_Crew > Subject: For BOB Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:38:43 +1000 You know Bob, you think your self so smart to deceive others. I just think you need to understand you need help. See its like this, now you have no credibility what so ever. As far as I am concerned you and your family are fictitious. Yep all that suffering your dad went through was all for nothing, it was just fiction wasn't it Bob ? Beware Bob, your God just may be the Greatest deceiver in history. I'll give you a clue, 5 letter word starting with S Marcus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: CrystalBuzz Marcus. I have frequented some satirist sites. And they say that Darkness is stronger than light and they worship the darkness. I disagree with the saitinist point of view. I worship both Dark and Light. Ying and Yang if you will. I worship the universe. _____________________________________________________________ BOY WAS I WROOOOOONG.Marcus said "five letters,beggining with S".Well I guessed "Santa". Jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 I believe the problem is....you were using 2 names. I asked once who CrystalBuzz was and you never answered....just said you were not female. The topic was an infection from a catherter. Also many people who really open up here, felt you were a "real" pastor..doesn't seem to be the case from my perspective. People here don't take to kindly to being deceived....get my drift? Carol At first I thought this was a bad thing that you think I have no credibility.But I thought about it again.And it is going to get you to talk.And think about what I have said again. Is that such a bad thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 What makes you a pastor? As many of us assumed you were by the statements you made? People who are hurting look for guidance from a pastor...agree? First you were a pastor, then you weren't, then you were CrystalBuzz, which many of us didn't know. I don't care if my husband changes his name, but at least let us know who we were talking to. And I don't care if you do....just let us know, which you did not when I asked. Carol CrystalBuzz wrote: But I am a Real Pastor…… this I have stated many times… Let me ask you a question.Am I any less of a pastor because I'm not a pastor of a religion that most people are members of ? CrystalBuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Marcus. I have frequented some satirist sites. And they say that Darkness is stronger than light and they worship the darkness. I disagree with the saitinist point of view. I worship both Dark and Light. Ying and Yang if you will. I worship the universe. At first I thought this was a bad thing that you think I have no credibility. But I thought about it again. And it is going to get you to talk. And think about what I have said again. Is that such a bad thing ? BTW: I'm not sure I understand your comment about my father. He does have Leukemia but I don’t think I posted that. How did you know ? My Mom died when I was 13 from NF2 I have NF2, and, sure, I'm alittle wacko. I see things that many people would laugh at. As for you assesment that “I need Help” You could be very very correct. (Grin) CrystalBuzz AKA Pastor Bob You know Bob, you think your self so smart to deceive others. I just think you need to understand you need help. See its like this, now you have no credibility what so ever. As far as I am concerned you and your family are fictitious. Yep all that suffering your dad went through was all for nothing, it was just fiction wasn't it Bob ? Beware Bob, your God just may be the Greatest deceiver in history. I'll give you a clue, 5 letter word starting with S Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hey Guys.. I am a Pastor. I have taken courses and past a huge test. I'm just not licensed in Minnesota. The reason I quit using " Pastor " is because I am looking into the laws of the state. And I might need to register here before I can use that title. I am not trying to deceive anyone. I have never stated I was an ordained Christen. In fact I said I wasn't. And numerous times I stated that I was ordained into Wholism. I also did think everyone knew It was the same guy because Marie asked me if I changed my name because of the topic or that I was a true Pastor. I told her what I'm telling you. If you think I was purposefully deceiving you. Why would I have told you? And why didn't I start with a different Email address? I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. CrystalBuzz AKA Pastor Bob For BOB Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:38:43 +1000 You know Bob, you think your self so smart to deceive others. I just think you need to understand you need help. See its like this, now you have no credibility what so ever. As far as I am concerned you and your family are fictitious. Yep all that suffering your dad went through was all for nothing, it was just fiction wasn't it Bob ? Beware Bob, your God just may be the Greatest deceiver in history. I'll give you a clue, 5 letter word starting with S Marcus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Hear about the Dislexic Satanist? He believes there is a Santa. At least I'm not an Agnostic Dyslexic. They have trouble believing in Dog CrystalBuzz ----- Original Message ----- From: CrystalBuzz Marcus. I have frequented some satirist sites. And they say that Darkness is stronger than light and they worship the darkness. I disagree with the saitinist point of view. I worship both Dark and Light. Ying and Yang if you will. I worship the universe. _____________________________________________________________ BOY WAS I WROOOOOONG.Marcus said " five letters,beggining with S " .Well I guessed " Santa " . Jimmy Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 What are you confused about ? CrystalBuzz In a message dated 7/30/01 4:58:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mark_sarmac@... writes: << I'm really mad. I thought this " Bob " was the reverend in this Crew and then I find out today that it's CrystalBob? I'm with Marcus, what are you playing at " Bob " , if that is your real name? It seems like you're suffering from some delusion of grandeur by calling yourself, Pastor. If that's the case, GET HELP! >> I am sooooooooooooo confused here Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 But I am a Real Pastor…… this I have stated many times… Let me ask you a question. Am I any less of a pastor because I'm not a pastor of a religion that most people are members of ? CrystalBuzz -----Original Message----- From: Carol Winarski Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:44 PM To: NF2_Crew Subject: Re: For BOB I believe the problem is....you were using 2 names. I asked once who CrystalBuzz was and you never answered....just said you were not female. The topic was an infection from a catherter. Also many people who really open up here, felt you were a " real " pastor..doesn't seem to be the case from my perspective. People here don't take to kindly to being deceived....get my drift? Carol At first I thought this was a bad thing that you think I have no credibility.But I thought about it again.And it is going to get you to talk.And think about what I have said again. Is that such a bad thing ? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Okay here is my two-cents about this situation. As Bob knows, I was also confused about his type of " pastorship. " It just didn't fit it to my religious beliefs. I asked Bob exactly what type of pastor he was. He was very open with me. I appreciate that. I was not familiar with wholism. The main thing that bothers me about this is I don't believe in good and evil. I believe in Jesus Christ - He is only good. I don't hear anything about repentence, acceptance of Christ and salvation in this wholism religion. And there is only one God in Christianity. But the crew is many different types of personalities and choices. I consider all of you my friends. My life has had many added blessings since joining the crew. I do believe in respecting others' choices. I try to live my life without trending on other people's feelings. Sometimes I miserably fell. I ask for forgiveness from that person and from Christ and try to do better. I always believed Bob had NF2. I am sorry, Bob, your dad has leukemia. My father passed away in 1996 from leukemia. So maybe we should all take a DEEP breathe and chill out a little here. Try and keep the communications open, don't give up when we are confused. Let's try, also, to remember " do unto others as you would have them do unto you> " God bless, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 6:53:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, boboberley@... writes: << Marcus. I have frequented some satirist sites. And they say that Darkness is stronger than light and they worship the darkness. I disagree with the saitinist point of view. I worship both Dark and Light. Ying and Yang if you will. I worship the universe. At first I thought this was a bad thing that you think I have no >> Satirist as in Satire? I am confused here. Or are you saying satanic? I guess I am wayyyyyy confused here again maybe it is too early and without coffee I am runnin on empty. Lori Jo ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:03:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, HandsomeJimmy@... writes: << BOY WAS I WROOOOOONG.Marcus said " five letters,beggining with S " .Well I guessed " Santa " . Jimmy >> I guessed something else. Lori Jo with mind in the gutter.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:04:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, boboberley@... writes: << was ordained into Wholism. >> Again I ask.... What is Wholism? I know of many religions but this one????? Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:14:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, boboberley@... writes: << At least I'm not an Agnostic Dyslexic. >> Hmmmmmmm Now I DO know what this means............<g> Lori Jo coffee must be doing it's work this AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/30/01 7:48:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, horizons@... writes: << People here don't take to kindly to being deceived....get my drift? Carol >> " Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing and false prophets " Lori Jo just my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/31/01 7:19:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, boboberley@... writes: << Go to www.wholism.org if you are really intrested. Pastor Bob AKA CrystalBuzz >> I went to this web site. Not going to give my opinion on what it sounded like to me. Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 09:44:21AM -0400, PsySmoke64@... wrote: > In a message dated 7/30/01 7:14:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > boboberley@... writes: > > << At least I'm not an Agnostic Dyslexic. >> > Hmmmmmmm Now I DO know what this means............<g> Lori Jo coffee must be > doing it's work this AM. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 I did some checking on the title. From hence forth I will use that title. This is a cut and paist of a message I received from an ordaned minister. Anyone in the US can use the title of pastor. You can preach and teach all you want. But to form a formal church (one that is tax-exempt, etc.), I think you may have to incorporate in some way and/or register with the government as a 501 c 3. To perform marriages you may have be prepared to show proof of ordination since you sign marriage licenses, but I would think that is all. And I don't think it matters in which country you obtained your ordination. Or from what church. Else what if you just wanted to start your own religion and church from scratch. Who would ordain you. God, I guess! ha! ha! Just check with local authorities and/or look it up on the net. However, I think many smaller churches operate in homes and non-church like settings, even taking up FREE WILL offerings and get around it that way. I don't want to encourage you to do anything illegal however, so look it up. I am ordained and work outside the system entirely when I do ministerial things, since I believe in TOTAL separation of church and state. However, I do not accept fees for the few services I perform. And I would only marry a couple who wanted the ceremony only, without the license, as that is how I believe marriage ought to be, not a thing inside the law, but entirely divorced from the law. My opinion. Pastor Bob AKA CrystalBuzz Re: For BOB Okay here is my two-cents about this situation. As Bob knows, I was also confused about his type of " pastorship. " It just didn't fit it to my religious beliefs. I asked Bob exactly what type of pastor he was. He was very open with me. I appreciate that. I was not familiar with wholism. The main thing that bothers me about this is I don't believe in good and evil. I believe in Jesus Christ - He is only good. I don't hear anything about repentence, acceptance of Christ and salvation in this wholism religion. And there is only one God in Christianity. But the crew is many different types of personalities and choices. I consider all of you my friends. My life has had many added blessings since joining the crew. I do believe in respecting others' choices. I try to live my life without trending on other people's feelings. Sometimes I miserably fell. I ask for forgiveness from that person and from Christ and try to do better. I always believed Bob had NF2. I am sorry, Bob, your dad has leukemia. My father passed away in 1996 from leukemia. So maybe we should all take a DEEP breathe and chill out a little here. Try and keep the communications open, don't give up when we are confused. Let's try, also, to remember " do unto others as you would have them do unto you> " God bless, Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 I do not want to see you crucified either Bob. But, I do find your constant harping deplorable:( Please just fit in~~Lowi who never learns, but all -would be teachers are beheaded on the spot:)(that may explain that one) Re: For BOB > Okay here is my two-cents about this situation. > As Bob knows, I was also confused about his type of " pastorship. " It just > didn't fit it to my religious beliefs. I asked Bob exactly what type of > pastor he was. He was very open with me. I appreciate that. I was not > familiar with wholism. > The main thing that bothers me about this is I don't believe in good and > evil. I believe in Jesus Christ - He is only good. I don't hear anything > about repentence, acceptance of Christ and salvation in this wholism > religion. And there is only one God in Christianity. > But the crew is many different types of personalities and choices. I > consider all of you my friends. My life has had many added blessings since > joining the crew. I do believe in respecting others' choices. I try to > live my life without trending on other people's feelings. Sometimes I > miserably fell. I ask for forgiveness from that person and from Christ and > try to do better. > I always believed Bob had NF2. I am sorry, Bob, your dad has leukemia. > My father passed away in 1996 from leukemia. > So maybe we should all take a DEEP breathe and chill out a little here. > Try and keep the communications open, don't give up when we are confused. > Let's try, also, to remember " do unto others as you would have them do > unto you> " > God bless, > Jane > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Go to www.wholism.org if you are really intrested. Pastor Bob AKA CrystalBuzz In a message dated 7/30/01 7:04:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, boboberley@... writes: << was ordained into Wholism. >> Again I ask.... What is Wholism? I know of many religions but this one????? Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 My trying to defend my right to my idieas is Deplorable? And who should I " Fit in " with ? Christans ? Wiccans? Satanists? Muslems? American Indians? Jews? The list goes on and on and on....... Pastor Bob AKA CrystalBuzz I do not want to see you crucified either Bob. But, I do find your constant harping deplorable:( Please just fit in~~Lowi who never learns, but all -would be teachers are beheaded on the spot:)(that may explain that one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 I WILL AGREE WITH THAT JANE!!! It isn't what or how you worship but how you treat your fellow man!! I may not agree with your " beliefs " of religion, but I will defend your right to do so as long as no one is mentally or physically hurt. Unfortunately, I know of some quote " religions " who do that. Carol JDWpoetgirl@... wrote: > Okay here is my two-cents about this situation. > As Bob knows, I was also confused about his type of " pastorship. " It just > didn't fit it to my religious beliefs. I asked Bob exactly what type of > pastor he was. He was very open with me. I appreciate that. I was not > familiar with wholism. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/31/01 6:48:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pete@... writes: << Didn't someone say, there 2 things you shouldn't discuss at the dinner table: Religion and Politics, I'm beginning to think it applies here Pete Who is secure in his beliefs and doesn't need to question or impose them on others >> I was just thinking this myself......Lori Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 NO no ur right but i think ASSHOLE BOB PRETTY MUCH COVERS *WITH A SMARtASS GRIN ON HIS FACE* NO BOB I DONT KNOW ENOUG ABOUT U TO JUDGE BUT FROM WHAT I HAVE READ U HAVE PISSED A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT NEEDS TO END... IF WE DIDNT ALL HAVE OUR OWN BELIVES THE WORLD WOULD BE BORING... AND THAT WOULD BE BAD... SO JUST EVERY LIVE THEIR LIFE AND FOR GET ALL THIS BS.. PAUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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