RE: just some thoughts and maybe some helpful info

[Guest guest]

I think that this was an early form of the Atkins diet.

just some thoughts and maybe some helpful info

Anyone remember the diet that had you buy the tablets that diabetics

used to check for ketones? I think it was one of those that kept carbs

to rock bottom...the theory was that when you started burning fats it

would show up as ketones..and if it didn't you were eating too many

carbs..it may have been the liquid peotein one though... I was reminded

of it a few days ago when I read about some low carb diet causing ketone

levels to rise.... this diet expert was saying that while high levels of

ketones in your blood was harmful, it was okay to have higher than

normal if your kidneys and liver were working okay..

[Guest guest]

Goldie, from having taught biochemistry, I

respectfully have to disagree with you. Excess

protein, carbs and fats are converted to fats and

stored as fat. It is the most efficient way to

store extra calories, as you noted, 9 cal/g vs 4

cal/g.

This is my first post to the group. I was

diagnosed at the end of April, with a bs of >600.

I am on avandia and insulin, up to about 30 units

a day in divided doses. Even with my background,

the diet/insulin balancing is mind-boggling. I

haven't done anything creative in months. I have

spent most of the last 3 months just focusing on

the diabetes. It is getting to be under control,

with most bs readings under 200. But it has been

a struggle.

Fortunately, Medicare picks up most of the cost

for the supplies I need. I do have to pay for the

lancets and alcohol wipes. Minor inconvenience

compared to the rest of the costs! Like many

others newly diagnosed, I have learned a lot from

this group. Thank you all for being there.

Joan

jbwgraphics@...

*** A ship in the harbor is safe, ********

*** But that's not what ships are for. ***

Extra fat is metabolized and turned to sugar and

stored in our system as fat.... Extra protein is

metabolized, turned into sugar and stored in our

system as fat..

* We have a lot more information than

we used to have and it's readily available on the

internet....at one time all we could do was count

calories....but now we know we need to do so much

more..and while a calorie is a calorie...all the

stuff they are made of are not the same..a gram

of fat contains about 9 calories, while a gram of

carbs or protein only contain about 4...

Later Goldie

[Guest guest]

Goldie, from having taught biochemistry, I

respectfully have to disagree with you. Excess

protein, carbs and fats are converted to fats and

stored as fat. It is the most efficient way to

store extra calories, as you noted, 9 cal/g vs 4

cal/g.

This is my first post to the group. I was

diagnosed at the end of April, with a bs of >600.

I am on avandia and insulin, up to about 30 units

a day in divided doses. Even with my background,

the diet/insulin balancing is mind-boggling. I

haven't done anything creative in months. I have

spent most of the last 3 months just focusing on

the diabetes. It is getting to be under control,

with most bs readings under 200. But it has been

a struggle.

Fortunately, Medicare picks up most of the cost

for the supplies I need. I do have to pay for the

lancets and alcohol wipes. Minor inconvenience

compared to the rest of the costs! Like many

others newly diagnosed, I have learned a lot from

this group. Thank you all for being there.

Joan

jbwgraphics@...

*** A ship in the harbor is safe, ********

*** But that's not what ships are for. ***

Extra fat is metabolized and turned to sugar and

stored in our system as fat.... Extra protein is

metabolized, turned into sugar and stored in our

system as fat..

* We have a lot more information than

we used to have and it's readily available on the

internet....at one time all we could do was count

calories....but now we know we need to do so much

more..and while a calorie is a calorie...all the

stuff they are made of are not the same..a gram

of fat contains about 9 calories, while a gram of

carbs or protein only contain about 4...

Later Goldie