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Hi Traci. I am in Brampton. Have you had saline implants before? Have a nice day. CristinTM McIntosh <prowlermeow@...> wrote: Hi Cristin,Where are you? I'm in Mississauga just outside of Toronto.Hugs,Tracicristinfilipuzzi7 <cristinfilipuzzi7 (DOT) ca> wrote: Hello everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I had saline breast

implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had them removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice. Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a while. I would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while. The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And that over time it should get better. I

wanted them out. But then I was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences of this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and cut out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the way down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where my feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my whole body. I wanted the implants out. I had the surgery to have them removed. Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome,

and whether or not there would be anything left, I went throught with it. When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they were alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before any surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks, the size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have breast implants put in. Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant surgery? Have a wonderful day.Cristin FilipuzziNo hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Hi Lynda. Thank-you very much for this information. I will look it up. I have seen so many doctors and specialists. Many of them never even hearing of erythromelalga before. I have been to the mayo clinic in the U.S. as well. I was also given a prostaglandin infusion in the hospital which was no help. I have tried so many different medications for erythromelalgia. None were of any help. Thank-you. CristinLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Cristin:Check this

link for hyperbarics for your condition.http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803Lynda

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Hi Lynda. Thank-you very much for this information. I will look it up. I have seen so many doctors and specialists. Many of them never even hearing of erythromelalga before. I have been to the mayo clinic in the U.S. as well. I was also given a prostaglandin infusion in the hospital which was no help. I have tried so many different medications for erythromelalgia. None were of any help. Thank-you. CristinLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Cristin:Check this

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Thank-you Patty for your advice. I am sorry to everyone for sending the whole group of messages. I went to my groups to look for the saline support group and could not find it. I am not sure how to make a post seperately. Cristinglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi Cristin,My, my, what an ordeal you have been through! First of all, I want to congratulate you and being smart enough to make a decision to get rid of the implants fairly soon after you got

them. We often fall prey to the persuasive words of those doctors, who sell implants like used car salesmen, and try to convince us that all the problems will resolve. They often don't, and get worse.Second, yes, there are women who experience the pain and burning in the hands and feet, and some women not only have extremity pain, but burning pain through their body. I have heard that often, mostly with women who have had silicone gel, but it has been an issue women have dealt with.I believe that this condition can go into remission, like many autoimmune diseases can, but it depends on alot of factors, like diet, stress, your detoxing efforts, and your mental state (having a positive outlook and remaining hopeful).Do you know if the entire capsule surrounding the implant was removed at explant? This is one aspect of explant that is really important, but often overlooked by most doctors. A residual

capsule can harbor bacteria and silicone degradation products that can keep the immune system exerted in a negative way.You are in good company in Ontario Canada! Dr. Pierre Blais, one of our most admired supporters in this ugly implant battle, lives and works in Ontario. You can see his articles regarding implants in our files and many places on the internet. If you do a search for his name, I am sure you will find tons. It would be nice if you could be in contact with him, but he is not a practicing doctor, but a medical scientist and researcher. He can tell you more about a retained scar capsule.So, that is the first thing I would find out. If you can get a copy of your operative report, you can search it for clues and a discussion of what was done with your scar capsule.Stay hopeful that you can win this battle~ if there is any possibility that this condition can go into remission, (and there

is), then keep that as your goal always, and you'll get there!Patty>> Hello everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had them > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice. > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter

for a while. I > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while. > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then I > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences of > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and cut > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the way > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where my > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my > whole body. I wanted the implants out. > I had the surgery to have them removed. > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether or > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it. > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they were > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before any > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks, the > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have > breast implants put in. > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant > surgery? > Have a wonderful day.> Cristin Filipuzzi>

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Thank-you Patty for your advice. I am sorry to everyone for sending the whole group of messages. I went to my groups to look for the saline support group and could not find it. I am not sure how to make a post seperately. Cristinglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Hi Cristin,My, my, what an ordeal you have been through! First of all, I want to congratulate you and being smart enough to make a decision to get rid of the implants fairly soon after you got

them. We often fall prey to the persuasive words of those doctors, who sell implants like used car salesmen, and try to convince us that all the problems will resolve. They often don't, and get worse.Second, yes, there are women who experience the pain and burning in the hands and feet, and some women not only have extremity pain, but burning pain through their body. I have heard that often, mostly with women who have had silicone gel, but it has been an issue women have dealt with.I believe that this condition can go into remission, like many autoimmune diseases can, but it depends on alot of factors, like diet, stress, your detoxing efforts, and your mental state (having a positive outlook and remaining hopeful).Do you know if the entire capsule surrounding the implant was removed at explant? This is one aspect of explant that is really important, but often overlooked by most doctors. A residual

capsule can harbor bacteria and silicone degradation products that can keep the immune system exerted in a negative way.You are in good company in Ontario Canada! Dr. Pierre Blais, one of our most admired supporters in this ugly implant battle, lives and works in Ontario. You can see his articles regarding implants in our files and many places on the internet. If you do a search for his name, I am sure you will find tons. It would be nice if you could be in contact with him, but he is not a practicing doctor, but a medical scientist and researcher. He can tell you more about a retained scar capsule.So, that is the first thing I would find out. If you can get a copy of your operative report, you can search it for clues and a discussion of what was done with your scar capsule.Stay hopeful that you can win this battle~ if there is any possibility that this condition can go into remission, (and there

is), then keep that as your goal always, and you'll get there!Patty>> Hello everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had them > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice. > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter

for a while. I > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while. > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then I > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences of > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and cut > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the way > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where my > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my > whole body. I wanted the implants out. > I had the surgery to have them removed. > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether or > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it. > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they were > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before any > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks, the > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have > breast implants put in. > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant > surgery? > Have a wonderful day.> Cristin Filipuzzi>

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Hello,

Is infection after an explant common? It seems that a few women have

run into this problem. I am having mine explnated next month so im

just trying to prepare myself for what to expect?

Thanks,

Hello

everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

them

> removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I

> was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice.

> Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more

> full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was

> in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a while. I

> would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor

> said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I

> was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered

> in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while.

> The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then

I

> was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences

of

> this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing

> to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

cut

> out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the way

> down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain

> got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where

my

> feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> I had the surgery to have them removed.

> Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether

or

> not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

were

> alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before any

> surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks, the

> size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have

> breast implants put in.

> Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> surgery?

> Have a wonderful day.

> Cristin Filipuzzi

>

>

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

> ---------------------------------

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

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Hello,

Is infection after an explant common? It seems that a few women have

run into this problem. I am having mine explnated next month so im

just trying to prepare myself for what to expect?

Thanks,

Hello

everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

them

> removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I

> was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice.

> Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more

> full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was

> in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a while. I

> would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor

> said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I

> was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered

> in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while.

> The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then

I

> was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences

of

> this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing

> to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

cut

> out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the way

> down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain

> got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where

my

> feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> I had the surgery to have them removed.

> Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether

or

> not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

were

> alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before any

> surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks, the

> size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have

> breast implants put in.

> Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> surgery?

> Have a wonderful day.

> Cristin Filipuzzi

>

>

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

> ---------------------------------

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

>

> ---------------------------------

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

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Patty,

I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for

RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems

that have a brain connection.

Lynda

At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

>Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.

>Patty

>

>

> >

> > Cristin:

> >

> > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.

> >

> >

>

<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org\

/803

> >

> >

> > Lynda

> >

>

>

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Patty,

I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for

RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems

that have a brain connection.

Lynda

At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

>Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.

>Patty

>

>

> >

> > Cristin:

> >

> > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.

> >

> >

>

<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org\

/803

> >

> >

> > Lynda

> >

>

>

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Cristin,

You're doing fine...just keep posting!

Patty

> >

> > Hello everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

> them

> > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I

> > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice.

> > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more

> > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was

> > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a while.

> I

> > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor

> > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I

> > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered

> > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while.

> > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then

> I

> > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences

> of

> > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing

> > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

cut

> > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the

way

> > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> > standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain

> > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where

> my

> > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> > whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> > I had the surgery to have them removed.

> > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether

or

> > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

were

> > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before

any

> > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks,

> the

> > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> > removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have

> > breast implants put in.

> > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> > surgery?

> > Have a wonderful day.

> > Cristin Filipuzzi

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Cristin,

You're doing fine...just keep posting!

Patty

> >

> > Hello everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

> them

> > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience. I

> > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better choice.

> > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look more

> > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I was

> > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a while.

> I

> > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the doctor

> > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages, I

> > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and covered

> > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a while.

> > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But then

> I

> > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and experiences

> of

> > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best thing

> > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

cut

> > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the

way

> > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> > standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The pain

> > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet, where

> my

> > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> > whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> > I had the surgery to have them removed.

> > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and whether

or

> > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

were

> > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before

any

> > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks,

> the

> > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> > removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to have

> > breast implants put in.

> > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> > surgery?

> > Have a wonderful day.

> > Cristin Filipuzzi

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Darling Lynda:

We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It breaks my heart to see you go through all this pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good.

Love you so....Lea and

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Patty,I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems that have a brain connection.LyndaAt 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:>Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.>Patty>>> >> > Cristin:> >> > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.> >> > > <http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803> >> >> > Lynda> >>>

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Darling Lynda:

We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It breaks my heart to see you go through all this pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good.

Love you so....Lea and

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Patty,I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems that have a brain connection.LyndaAt 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:>Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.>Patty>>> >> > Cristin:> >> > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.> >> > > <http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803> >> >> > Lynda> >>>

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Thanks, Lea

It is the emotional drain as well as the physical

that makes me so tired. Running back and forth

to Boulder during the winter can be

edgy. Another storm coming on Sunday. Have to

be there early Monday morning. Wish I still

lived in Boulder. Can't afford to move back there.

I think the RSD is improving. Less pain right

now, and it has not kept me awake at night the

last two nights. That certainly is an

improvement. Let's hope it keeps going in that

direction. I still walk with a limp and it hurts

when I walk. But, I think it is getting

better. Keep those prayers going. RSD is a

horrible medical condition to have.

Love,

Lynda

At 08:11 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote:

>Darling Lynda:

>

>We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It

>breaks my heart to see you go through all this

>pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good.

>

>Love you so....Lea and

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

> Re: Re: Hi everyone

>

>Patty,

>

>I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for

>RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems

>that have a brain connection.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

>

> >Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.

> >Patty

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Cristin:

> > >

> > > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

<<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.or\

g/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803

> > >

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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Thanks, Lea

It is the emotional drain as well as the physical

that makes me so tired. Running back and forth

to Boulder during the winter can be

edgy. Another storm coming on Sunday. Have to

be there early Monday morning. Wish I still

lived in Boulder. Can't afford to move back there.

I think the RSD is improving. Less pain right

now, and it has not kept me awake at night the

last two nights. That certainly is an

improvement. Let's hope it keeps going in that

direction. I still walk with a limp and it hurts

when I walk. But, I think it is getting

better. Keep those prayers going. RSD is a

horrible medical condition to have.

Love,

Lynda

At 08:11 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote:

>Darling Lynda:

>

>We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It

>breaks my heart to see you go through all this

>pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good.

>

>Love you so....Lea and

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``

> Re: Re: Hi everyone

>

>Patty,

>

>I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for

>RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems

>that have a brain connection.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

>

> >Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go.

> >Patty

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Cristin:

> > >

> > > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

<<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.or\

g/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803

> > >

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

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I'm keeping you in my prayers Lynda to get better.Love TraciLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Thanks, Lea It is the emotional drain as well as the physical that makes me so tired. Running back and forth to Boulder during the winter can be edgy. Another storm coming on Sunday. Have to be there early Monday morning. Wish I still lived in Boulder. Can't afford to move back there. I think the RSD is improving. Less pain right now, and it has not kept me awake at night the last two nights. That

certainly is an improvement. Let's hope it keeps going in that direction. I still walk with a limp and it hurts when I walk. But, I think it is getting better. Keep those prayers going. RSD is a horrible medical condition to have. Love, Lynda At 08:11 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote: >Darling Lynda: > >We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It >breaks my heart to see you go through all this >pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good. > >Love you so....Lea and >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` > Re: Re: Hi everyone > >Patty, > >I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for >RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems >that have a brain connection. > >Lynda > >At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote: > > >Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go. > >Patty > > > > > > > > > > Cristin: > > > > > > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition. > > > > > > > > > <<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803 > > > > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > ><http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=88630 & partner=hotbar> >Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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I'm keeping you in my prayers Lynda to get better.Love TraciLynda Roth <coss@...> wrote: Thanks, Lea It is the emotional drain as well as the physical that makes me so tired. Running back and forth to Boulder during the winter can be edgy. Another storm coming on Sunday. Have to be there early Monday morning. Wish I still lived in Boulder. Can't afford to move back there. I think the RSD is improving. Less pain right now, and it has not kept me awake at night the last two nights. That

certainly is an improvement. Let's hope it keeps going in that direction. I still walk with a limp and it hurts when I walk. But, I think it is getting better. Keep those prayers going. RSD is a horrible medical condition to have. Love, Lynda At 08:11 AM 1/5/2008, you wrote: >Darling Lynda: > >We hope that you will be feeling better soon. It >breaks my heart to see you go through all this >pain. We will continue to pray that the RSD goes away for good. > >Love you so....Lea and >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`` > Re: Re: Hi everyone > >Patty, > >I would not have known about this if I had not been doing this for >RSD. Interesting how many things it helps, especially nerve problems >that have a brain connection. > >Lynda > >At 08:44 AM 1/4/2008, you wrote: > > >Perfect Lynda! This sounds like the way to go. > >Patty > > > > > > > > > > Cristin: > > > > > > Check this link for hyperbarics for your condition. > > > > > > > > > <<http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803>http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/803 > > > > > > > > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > ><http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=88630 & partner=hotbar> >Upgrade Your Email - Click here! > > > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

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Hi Traci,

Thanks for the info. i wasent sure if this should be a concern but i

have not had any infection problems that i know of so i guess that

should not be an issue but i am so sorry to hear about everything

that you have gone through. I believe that Dr Feng does do en bloc

but i am just a bag of nerves as the procedure is getting closer. I

never expected all of this from getting my " safe " implants so im not

a big fan of suregeries right now. :)

Hello

> everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

> them

> > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience.

I

> > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better

choice.

> > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look

more

> > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I

was

> > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a

while. I

> > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the

doctor

> > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages,

I

> > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and

covered

> > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a

while.

> > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But

then

> I

> > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and

experiences

> of

> > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best

thing

> > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

> cut

> > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the

way

> > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> > standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The

pain

> > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet,

where

> my

> > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> > whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> > I had the surgery to have them removed.

> > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and

whether

> or

> > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

> were

> > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before

any

> > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks,

the

> > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> > removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to

have

> > breast implants put in.

> > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> > surgery?

> > Have a wonderful day.

> > Cristin Filipuzzi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

> Churchill

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle.

~Winston

> Churchill

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

>

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Hi Traci,

Thanks for the info. i wasent sure if this should be a concern but i

have not had any infection problems that i know of so i guess that

should not be an issue but i am so sorry to hear about everything

that you have gone through. I believe that Dr Feng does do en bloc

but i am just a bag of nerves as the procedure is getting closer. I

never expected all of this from getting my " safe " implants so im not

a big fan of suregeries right now. :)

Hello

> everyone. My name is Cristin. I live in Ontario, Canada. I

> > had saline breast implants put in about 6 years ago now. I had

> them

> > removed 1 and a half years later. It was a terrible experience.

I

> > was only 22 at the time. The only reason I wanted to have the

> > surgery was to have my breasts look like they did before I was

> > breastfeeding. I should have had a lift. The size was fine. The

> > surgeon told me that implants would definitly be a better

choice.

> > Not only would it look like a lift but they would also look

more

> > full and rounded. And I listened to him. After the surgery I

was

> > in so much pain. I could not look after my daughter for a

while. I

> > would need help lieing down and sitting up long after the

doctor

> > said I would be in pain. When I finanlly removed the bandages,

I

> > was disquested. They looked terrible. They were huge and

covered

> > in veins. I cried and cried and went into depression for a

while.

> > The surgeon said that he has never seen this happen before. And

> > that over time it should get better. I wanted them out. But

then

> I

> > was scared. I looked on the interenet for photos and

experiences

> of

> > this. They were not good. The surgeon told me that the best

thing

> > to be done was to have another surgery to make them smaller and

> cut

> > out the biggest vein that was showing. I had this done. More

> > pain. Depression. They did look a little bit better, but not

> > much. After a little bit, the right implant would fall all the

way

> > down to the right side when I would lie down. And when I was

> > standing, it was still moved over a considerable amount. The

pain

> > got worse. To make all of this so much worse, I started

> > experiencing sympoms of Erythromelalgia. First in my feet,

where

> my

> > feet got red and all of the veins came out. As well as alot of

> > pain. This spread to my hands, legs, arms, face. Basically my

> > whole body. I wanted the implants out.

> > I had the surgery to have them removed.

> > Even though I was extrememly scared of the outcome, and

whether

> or

> > not there would be anything left, I went throught with it.

> > When I saw the result, I was astonished at first, because they

> were

> > alot smaller then I was used to. An A cup. I was a C 36 before

any

> > surgeries. So I was not used to this. After a couple of weeks,

the

> > size miraculously increased abit. I guess all of the tissue was

> > pushed in and tender. Anyways I am very happy that I had them

> > removed. I have no more pain in my breast. But I do have

> > Erythromelalgia. Which is a very painful and dibilitating

> > condition. The doctors dont know how to help me. I will help

> > myself. The worst decision that I made, was the decision to

have

> > breast implants put in.

> > Has anyone else had Erythromelalgia as a result of the implant

> > surgery?

> > Have a wonderful day.

> > Cristin Filipuzzi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

> Churchill

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle.

~Winston

> Churchill

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston

Churchill

>

> ---------------------------------

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HOMEMADE LOW DOSE NALTREXONEThere could be several reasons why some people may want to make their own LDN: Often their Doctors will not prescribe LDN; Homemade LDN costs only $10/month; There are no Pharmacy mistakes in Homemade LDN; There are no capsule "filler" problems and experiments can be conducted with different dose quantities.The chemical we call Naltrexone is really the chemical Naltrexone Hydrochloride (C20H23NO4-HCl). It could be purchased directly from Spectrum Chemicals for about $100 a gram but only by using a commercial account and in its pure form is too difficult to measure in exact small quantities. The best source of Naltrexone, in order to prepare Homemade LDN doses, is the 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet made by DuPont and prescribed by Doctors for treatment of drug and alcohol addictions. Each 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet can be made into 11 to 16 LDN doses depending on whether one takes a small 3mg dose or a larger 4.5mg dose.How to acquire 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablets: Here are a few methods that have been reported by people on the Histamine, LDN and Alternative MS Therapies Message Board:They tell their Doctor the truth: They print out this WebPage and the WebPage LDN Brief Summary, highlight key areas and give it to their Doctor and tell him they want the "ReVia" tablets in order to experiment with minuscule Naltrexone doses at 1/100th of FDA approved dosages. Hopefully, they get a "ReVia" Prescription.They tell their Doctor a white lie: They tell their Doctor their medical condition has caused them to abuse drugs and alcohol and they would like a Prescription for 50mg "ReVia" tablets to relieve their possible addiction.They order 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablets legally without a prescription from a foreign country. Most people at the Histamine, LDN Message Board currently prefer Internet Mexican Drug Stores which cost about $110 for a one year supply. Any questions can be asked at the Message Board.Methods you can use to make Low Dose Naltrexone Doses:Liquid LDN (Easiest): Acquire some ml measuring equipment from the baby section of a Drug Store and a small bottle with a screw-on cap. Put 50ml of water (distilled is best) and one 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet in the small bottle and let it dissolve with a little time and shaking. Now each ml of water in that small bottle contains 1 mg of Naltrexone. At bedtime shake the bottle, take a desired dose (no more than 4.5ml), chase it down with some water and store the small bottle in the refrigerator. Some people have reported splitting the tablet in half and dissolving it in 25ml of water to assure freshness every week.Note: A 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablet actually weighs about 310mg - 16% Naltrexone and 84% Filler.19mg of the Powder actually contains 3mg of the chemical Naltrexone and 28mg of the Powder contains 4.5mg of Naltrexone. It would be very difficult to work with 100% pure powdered Naltrexone Hydrochloride.http://goodshape.net/HomemadeLDN.html--- In low dose naltrexone , "amit7017w" <amit7017w@...> wrote:>> > i nhave ms since five years plus .> > i am on avonex since 18 months .> > its a torture > > i will stop avonex from next week .> > i have taken ldn twice but i backed up ??> > i have a request can somebody guide me how to make LDN from a 50 mg > tab(naltroxne ) at home . somebody suggested earlier it is not > stable even in refrigrator ? how to prepare and store at home > without any pharmacy help ?> > please guide > > keep well > > amit>

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HOMEMADE LOW DOSE NALTREXONEThere could be several reasons why some people may want to make their own LDN: Often their Doctors will not prescribe LDN; Homemade LDN costs only $10/month; There are no Pharmacy mistakes in Homemade LDN; There are no capsule "filler" problems and experiments can be conducted with different dose quantities.The chemical we call Naltrexone is really the chemical Naltrexone Hydrochloride (C20H23NO4-HCl). It could be purchased directly from Spectrum Chemicals for about $100 a gram but only by using a commercial account and in its pure form is too difficult to measure in exact small quantities. The best source of Naltrexone, in order to prepare Homemade LDN doses, is the 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet made by DuPont and prescribed by Doctors for treatment of drug and alcohol addictions. Each 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet can be made into 11 to 16 LDN doses depending on whether one takes a small 3mg dose or a larger 4.5mg dose.How to acquire 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablets: Here are a few methods that have been reported by people on the Histamine, LDN and Alternative MS Therapies Message Board:They tell their Doctor the truth: They print out this WebPage and the WebPage LDN Brief Summary, highlight key areas and give it to their Doctor and tell him they want the "ReVia" tablets in order to experiment with minuscule Naltrexone doses at 1/100th of FDA approved dosages. Hopefully, they get a "ReVia" Prescription.They tell their Doctor a white lie: They tell their Doctor their medical condition has caused them to abuse drugs and alcohol and they would like a Prescription for 50mg "ReVia" tablets to relieve their possible addiction.They order 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablets legally without a prescription from a foreign country. Most people at the Histamine, LDN Message Board currently prefer Internet Mexican Drug Stores which cost about $110 for a one year supply. Any questions can be asked at the Message Board.Methods you can use to make Low Dose Naltrexone Doses:Liquid LDN (Easiest): Acquire some ml measuring equipment from the baby section of a Drug Store and a small bottle with a screw-on cap. Put 50ml of water (distilled is best) and one 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone tablet in the small bottle and let it dissolve with a little time and shaking. Now each ml of water in that small bottle contains 1 mg of Naltrexone. At bedtime shake the bottle, take a desired dose (no more than 4.5ml), chase it down with some water and store the small bottle in the refrigerator. Some people have reported splitting the tablet in half and dissolving it in 25ml of water to assure freshness every week.Note: A 50mg "ReVia" Naltrexone Tablet actually weighs about 310mg - 16% Naltrexone and 84% Filler.19mg of the Powder actually contains 3mg of the chemical Naltrexone and 28mg of the Powder contains 4.5mg of Naltrexone. It would be very difficult to work with 100% pure powdered Naltrexone Hydrochloride.http://goodshape.net/HomemadeLDN.html--- In low dose naltrexone , "amit7017w" <amit7017w@...> wrote:>> > i nhave ms since five years plus .> > i am on avonex since 18 months .> > its a torture > > i will stop avonex from next week .> > i have taken ldn twice but i backed up ??> > i have a request can somebody guide me how to make LDN from a 50 mg > tab(naltroxne ) at home . somebody suggested earlier it is not > stable even in refrigrator ? how to prepare and store at home > without any pharmacy help ?> > please guide > > keep well > > amit>

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Hi, :

I wish I had some great advice to share with you about pain meds to

take, but it seems all the stuff I had been pouring into my own body to

try to get thru the day has caused me to have an abnormal liver function

result. NOT the desired result. However, I will say I was taking 1000mg

Advil Gelcaps (my Internal Med Dr. suggested them as working better than

regular Advil), along with 25mg prednisone, an anti-inflamatory, and one

Lyrica a day. Usually by noon I felt somewhat better and could walk.

Without it I was down for the day. I do not suggest this other than an

emergency measure because really I don't want anyone else to end up with

an abnormal liver function result!!!!!!!!! Especially that prednisone.

It works, yes, but its like making a deal with the devil. Also, hot

soaks, especially in a melted paraffin bath really helped my hands (tho

curiously not my feet). Maybe a local nail or haircutting place would

have one you can use if you can't buy one locally.

Please don't think of yourself being useless. I know exactly, I mean

exactly how you feel.. I am (was) this super productive type A person

where everything has to be in perfect order at all times. My closet

organized by color. My refrigerator shelves neatly labeled, labels lined

up and facing out (I'm not kidding) I can't tell you how depressed I am

being unable to even do basic cleaning up of the house or even me

...especially I hate seeing dead psoriasis skin all over the floor by my

bed and I can't do a thing about it. My 4 children tease me that my cure

for everything from a scraped knee to a bad test score is go brush your

teeth and take a shower and you will feel better..and yet many days I

cant even get up the gumption to shower myself til dinner time.

BUT I try to remain hopeful that something will work, and I get can back

to my regularly scheduled life, and until then I try to focus on

thinking about that I am helpful, just in different ways. I learned I am

a great bed-bound supervisor, haha. I try to cheer myself up by thinking

about that my kids are learning responsibility in ways there's no way

they would have before, and when they go off on their own in 12 years or

so they are going to know how to scrub their own toilets and fold their

own clothes because I have patiently taught them, albeit from sitting up

in bed. And also that they are learning compassion in a deep down sort

of way they wouldn't have otherwise. My 8 year old helped an old lady

across the street last month when we were in Gatlinburg. I don't think I

have ever seen someone actually do that except in movies. But he saw she

was scared of stepping off the curb so he just went over and helped her

down, then walked across and helped her back up, just like he does for

me. I'm not sure where you live, but American kids don't do things like

that (mores the pity). So I try to hope that there is some good of some

sort coming from all of this.. Even if it takes a search party to find

the silver lining..I don't know if this helps you at all, maybe you are

rolling your eyes and thinking what a silly Pollyanna I am..

I feel for you having to travel so far just to see your Dr. My thoughts

are with you and I hope you find relief soon. Carla

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Thanks for your reply. Nice to hear from you. I too, was the same and had O.C.D

(Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). When it came to cleaning and organizing etc.

What a difference now. Hard to accept. But hey, we have what we have and got to

live with it and I just hope that we will find some relief very soon ! Sounds

like you have great kids and are teaching them well .Way to go ! Thanks for the

info . I will experiment with different pain meds til I find something that

works for sure. Be well & take care !

Thanks again

P.s - My husband is doing a great job around the house and says I'm a great

Supervisor from the bed also , lol.

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Thanks so much for your reply. I will certainly discuss this Med with my Rheumy

at my next appointment. So glad it works for you. Be well & take care!

Cheers!

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...> wrote:

, Tramadol has worked well for my pain.

best regards,

sherry z

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