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Due to my very unpopular stance on ABA, I reserve my right not to answer

this question.

;-)

Penny

Re: Refrigerator Mothers

In a message dated 6/28/02 12:43:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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> There was a panel discussion afterwards...I WASN'T thrilled with

> that.....anyhow...

How come?

It's on July 16th on PBS here in PA

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> Due to my very unpopular stance on ABA, I reserve my right not to answer

> this question.

Hey, Penny! Unpopular with whom? Not on THIS list. You can think as you

please and it is certainly fine with me. Nothing works for everyone and

nothing works all the time, but most things work for somebody at some point

in time.

Salli, who has had ABA work and who has also had ABA not work once Putter

had grasped the basic principles and decided that foiling his therapist's

wishes was far more fun than ANY reinforcer

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>>This brings up a question that has always bothered me...do your

kids' " trainers " routinely use aversives during ABA? Do they still

do over-correction? Do they force your child to stay in the chair?

We don't have an ABA program going (yet?) but --

Ideally, we do not use aversives except in dangerous situations - hitting

the window with a baseball bat, running repeatedly into the aquarium...I am

not perfect but I do try to use distraction and gentle discipline first.

Time-outs are no longer an option because of SIB...not that they were much

more than a wrestling match anyway. They did eventually work when Mikey was

trying to squash Gabe but now I would choose a different tactic, both

because I have learned different tactics and because it just isn't practical

anymore.

We definitely do not use them with learning. Although I am sure there are

kids out there who respond to them beautifully, so please don't take that

wrong if you use them for your child.

Our ST & OT and play group *encourage* Mikey to stay in his seat and reward

him for doing so. They might hold him in the seat if he tried to get up to

see if they could get him to stay, but if he was really fighting them or was

truly distressed they would let him up.

I believe that it is essential to make these sessions fun and rewarding for

, or he will stop doing them altogether.

I HOPE that if/when we set up an ABA program they will respect my wishes if

not share my beliefs.

-Sara.

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High School????? I'm still terrified of KINDERGARTEN!!!!!

" Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant. "

- Louis son

, mom to:

, ASD, ADHD, OCD, GAD, 4

, NT, 2

Re: Refrigerator Mothers

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> Does that make me a bad mom? :-(

>

> Raena

Not at all! The very same images can have drastically different

effects on all of us! I think part of it is that Autism is different

for every one of us. The future scares the crap out of me. I can

hardly think of it in ANY terms, but if I have to face it right

now... I want to face the future that has Mitchel being able to be

more independant rather than not.

ly, I dont' want to think about it at ALL!!! the thought of High

School scares me.

Kerri

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