Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Thank so much for your post. You did not mention your name. I can relate to your post,, all of it really. I have had to call Pat more then once to get some pep talks. This is really hard. I am going back to soup for a few days as everything i have been eating for the last two days has made me feel ill. I like campbels mushroom soup . I make it with water and to me its really good. I also have split pea and cream of chicken. I am really tired of feel icky,my energy level has been so low . I'm tired all the time. I do get out and walk or go shopping but i have to force myself. I am feeling better today ,not so tired .Pat thanks so much your pep talks and all your information , it's have been a life saver. I recomend you all fine someone who has gone before you and get there number and call them during the tuff times. Belive me there WILL be tuff times. I no to all those who have not had surgery yet want it so badly but please be aware this is not easy .I sometimes i wish I did not done this. I'm told lots of people feel this way during the recovery process. I'm sure these feeling will pass once im feeling better. I guess its just so important to understand this process is hard. Shell P.S Ramona how are you doing ???? > Hi everyone! Meyerowitz did full open surgery on me on 1/22. All went very > well. Pain was tolerated and was returned home on 1/27. > > I am having some food issues and what to eat, how to prepare,etc. I need > some receipt help for creamed soups using lactaid free milk, etc. I also > need some receipt suggestions because chicken soup/broth, jello, custard & > yogurt are becoming boring. > > I find I am not hungry and am forgetting to eat which is now reacting on me > in that I am dizzy, light-headed, and find my self weak. I am drinking > organic 100% apple juice that is diluited 50% constantly to maintain suger > levels but the weakness still sets in and I have to just stop and lay down. > > I have not produced a successful protein drink yet either and would love some > suggestions and receipes. > > I have spent a lot of time thinking about my response to returning home, the > problems and depression and things that occurred both physicially and > emotionally, as well as the physical needs I had after surgery. I understand > that GITY is writing a book/manual re by-pass and think that we should all > pool together and present ideas and things we feel are/were needed for at > home support after leaving the hospital. > > I felt blessed because I have been in therapy around food, etc., for the last > several years and my therapist and a strong support group & family stood by > me second by second. However some people do not have that support and/or the > kind of extensive information and knowledge that I had and we need to prepare > everyone for the end so that they can be the most successful as possible. > > Please let me hear from you all. These are just some ideas that I have and > want to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Hi Shell, I have been off line for a bit because we moved this weekend. I am getting along. I take it one day at a time. I to have been having food issues because it is just not the same anymore. I find that even the lactose free milk is a little hard on the stomach. Nadia told me to lay off the milk for a while and that seemed to do the trick and it eased the pain a bit. Even the lactose fat free milk is too hard to digest yet so I have been eating my cream of wheat with just the water it is cooked in and today I added some chopped banana to it and it tasted just fine. The milk will cause gas and can be very painful in the stomach area. Yesterday like you I went back to basics for a day to clean out my system. I guess I am still having some portions difficulties. So I guess the medium plate is just too big so a saucer does the trick. Luckily I haven't done the vomiting bit. I have gotten extremely uncomfortable though. This has been very hard on my family. I am Having great support from my husband he is very caring but my son has been such a challenge. He is 18 and thinks that the world owes him something. He puts me though a lot of stress and of course that causes me to get upset and then my tummy hurts. Then when that happens him and his dad get into it and then that makes it worse. I think I need a vacation from my family while I recuperate. The rest of my family, my Mom and my seven siblings have been very supportive. I two of sisters in Texas want me to go there and stay with them for a bit but I can't right now. The move was just a little more that I thought it was going to cost us. Next month will be better though. I will be glad the day I wake up and can say wow no pain. Till then just grin and bear it. Does anyone know if it is normal that at the bottom of the scar the flesh should feel hard, I am worried about it that there is something wrong. I know I do have a problem with scar tissue that I develop keloids. Shell are you going to go to the support meeting tomorrow. I think if I can get some sleep tonight I will be going. My Mom wants to go with me. Well till tomorrow Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 HI Marcus, Good Luck on your surgery date. It is too bad about the type of people that you associate with. Those are the ones that have never taken a good look at themselves in the mirror. I myself would no really want to be connected with a group of people who cannot support you because you have decided to take you life in to control in a permanent matter. They are the ones that don't want to realize that they are the failures. I wen t by my old place of employment the other day and all I heard were words of encouragement. Especially since we had a friend that had passed away a year ago. We always told her that she needed to take control of her eating and she died at the age of 50. You have so much to gain from having it done. there is really no price in earth for good health. As for the beer I think that that goes under the same category as Soda. It is because of the carbonation and also the alcohol The carbonation can cause your suture line to tear and the alcohol is a stimulant. The Stimulant we don't need. Besides once you have your surgery you will find that you re evaluate the food you eat and what you eat because you just can't eat the way you did in the past. Think of the surgery as one door closing and after the surgery a new door opening with a lot of new things and a new life ahead just waiting to be discovered and enjoyed Ramona. Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 hello everyone - shell i'm sorry that you feel bad. keep your head up. this is marcus in dc. i have not had my surgery yet. i have an appointment today with my pcp to get the clearance (i'm not with kaiser anymore but i still enjoy this group). i meet with my surgeon tomorrow. hopefully i get my surgery date tomorrow. the receptionist stated that they still have openings for the month of feb. i'm keeping my fingers crossed. i'm choosing to keep this surgery private. i have not told a sold. many people in my circle talk entirely too much. i just experience it first hand last sunday at a super bowl party that my best friend & his wife hosted. everyone at the party was talking about this one woman behind her back. she shared her secret with her girlfriend a couple of months ago. within an hour of her arrival at least 40 people new that she had the surgery. she was devastated when a stranger asked her about the surgery. she left the party in discuss. my best friend & his wife who weigh 321 & 270 pounds respectively, think that people who have the surgery are failures. they have both been on yo-yo diets for the past 10 years along with me. actually my best friends wife's best friend had the surgery four months ago & lost 60 pounds. she looks terrific. i will choose very carefully who i decide to tell about my surgery. my therapist completely disagrees with my logic but understands & respects my decision. i have a friend who has a 22 year old sister what weighs 375 pounds. i will definitely share my experience with her because her sister can definitely benefit from it. i'm going to tell my family, friends neighbors & co-worker that i have been taking some medication that has reduced my appetite. has anyone been able to drink beer? or any form of alcohol? i went to a support group meeting a month ago & one lady stated that she took a vacation to amsterdam (months) after surgery & was able to consume beer. i know it sounds completely shallow but i had to ask? i am a complete social drink. i only drink once a week. i never have more than four drinks in a sitting (beer, wine, frozen drinks etc...) please don't kick me out of the group (snicker). marcus sweetgemlady656@... wrote: Hi Shell, I have been off line for a bit because we moved this weekend. I am getting along. I take it one day at a time. I to have been having food issues because it is just not the same anymore. I find that even the lactose free milk is a little hard on the stomach. Nadia told me to lay off the milk for a while and that seemed to do the trick and it eased the pain a bit. Even the lactose fat free milk is too hard to digest yet so I have been eating my cream of wheat with just the water it is cooked in and today I added some chopped banana to it and it tasted just fine. The milk will cause gas and can be very painful in the stomach area. Yesterday like you I went back to basics for a day to clean out my system. I guess I am still having some portions difficulties. So I guess the medium plate is just too big so a saucer does the trick. Luckily I haven't done the vomiting bit. I have gotten extremely uncomfortable though. This has been very hard on my family. I am Having great support from my husband he is very caring but my son has been such a challenge. He is 18 and thinks that the world owes him something. He puts me though a lot of stress and of course that causes me to get upset and then my tummy hurts. Then when that happens him and his dad get into it and then that makes it worse. I think I need a vacation from my family while I recuperate. The rest of my family, my Mom and my seven siblings have been very supportive. I two of sisters in Texas want me to go there and stay with them for a bit but I can't right now. The move was just a little more that I thought it was going to cost us. Next month will be better though. I will be glad the day I wake up and can say wow no pain. Till then just grin and bear it. Does anyone know if it is normal that at the bottom of the scar the flesh should feel hard, I am worried about it that there is something wrong. I know I do have a problem with scar tissue that I develop keloids. Shell are you going to go to the support meeting tomorrow. I think if I can get some sleep tonight I will be going. My Mom wants to go with me. Well till tomorrow Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Marcus, Thanks for your post. I'm not sure about the beer question as im an recovering alcohlic and have been sober 10 years,so i won't be drinking anytime soon *smile* im sure someone will know though. bty we will not kick you out of the club. The polls show this group would like to keep it just kaiser patients as thats how it will stay but you joined when you were a kaiser member and there may be one or two others who are not kaiser but respect that this group was made for kaiser patients. I can't see kicking anyone out ether kaiser or not but are main thing here is to help other kaiser patients and to deal with this surgery though kaiser. > > > Hi Shell, > > I have been off line for a bit because we moved this weekend. I am > > getting along. I take it one day at a time. I to have been having food > > issues because it is just not the same anymore. I find that even the > > lactose free milk is a little hard on the stomach. Nadia told me to > > lay off the milk for a while and that seemed to do the trick and it > > eased the pain a bit. Even the lactose fat free milk is too hard to > > digest yet so I have been eating my cream of wheat with just the water > > it is cooked in and today I added some chopped banana to it and it > > tasted just fine. The milk will cause gas and can be very painful in > > the stomach area. > > Yesterday like you I went back to basics for a day to clean out my > > system. I guess I am still having some portions difficulties. So I > > guess the medium plate is just too big so a saucer does the trick. > > Luckily I haven't done the vomiting bit. I have gotten extremely > > uncomfortable though. > > This has been very hard on my family. I am Having great support from > > my husband he is very caring but my son has been such a challenge. He > > is 18 and thinks that the world owes him something. He puts me though > > a lot of stress and of course that causes me to get upset and then my > > tummy hurts. Then when that happens him and his dad get into it and > > then that makes it worse. I think I need a vacation from my family > > while I recuperate. > > The rest of my family, my Mom and my seven siblings have been very > > supportive. I two of sisters in Texas want me to go there and stay > > with them for a bit but I can't right now. The move was just a little > > more that I thought it was going to cost us. Next month will be better > > though. I will be glad the day I wake up and can say wow no pain. Till > > then just grin and bear it. Does anyone know if it is normal that at > > the bottom of the scar the flesh should feel hard, I am worried about > > it that there is something wrong. I know I do have a problem with scar > > tissue that I develop keloids. Shell are you going to go to the > > support meeting tomorrow. I think if I can get some sleep tonight I > > will be going. My Mom wants to go with me. Well till tomorrow > > Ramona > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Yes ,im going to go but not sure if i'll stay for the whole thing. are you coming? > Hi Shell, > I have been off line for a bit because we moved this weekend. I am getting > along. I take it one day at a time. I to have been having food issues because > it is just not the same anymore. I find that even the lactose free milk is a > little hard on the stomach. Nadia told me to lay off the milk for a while and > that seemed to do the trick and it eased the pain a bit. Even the lactose fat > free milk is too hard to digest yet so I have been eating my cream of wheat > with just the water it is cooked in and today I added some chopped banana to > it and it tasted just fine. The milk will cause gas and can be very painful > in the stomach area. > Yesterday like you I went back to basics for a day to clean out my system. I > guess I am still having some portions difficulties. So I guess the medium > plate is just too big so a saucer does the trick. Luckily I haven't done the > vomiting bit. I have gotten extremely uncomfortable though. > This has been very hard on my family. I am Having great support from my > husband he is very caring but my son has been such a challenge. He is 18 and > thinks that the world owes him something. He puts me though a lot of stress > and of course that causes me to get upset and then my tummy hurts. Then when > that happens him and his dad get into it and then that makes it worse. I > think I need a vacation from my family while I recuperate. > The rest of my family, my Mom and my seven siblings have been very > supportive. I two of sisters in Texas want me to go there and stay with them > for a bit but I can't right now. The move was just a little more that I > thought it was going to cost us. Next month will be better though. I will be > glad the day I wake up and can say wow no pain. Till then just grin and bear > it. Does anyone know if it is normal that at the bottom of the scar the flesh > should feel hard, I am worried about it that there is something wrong. I know > I do have a problem with scar tissue that I develop keloids. Shell are you > going to go to the support meeting tomorrow. I think if I can get some sleep > tonight I will be going. My Mom wants to go with me. Well till tomorrow > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Yeah, no kicking out of people already here. <smile> Laurie W. Re: Surgery 1/22 Marcus,Thanks for your post. I'm not sure about the beer question as im an recovering alcohlic and have been sober 10 years,so i won't be drinking anytime soon *smile* im sure someone will know though. bty we will not kick you out of the club. The polls show this group would like to keep it just kaiser patients as thats how it will stay but you joined when you were a kaiser member and there may be one or two others who are not kaiser but respect that this group was made for kaiser patients. I can't see kicking anyone out ether kaiser or not but are main thing here is to help other kaiser patients and to deal with this surgery though kaiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 thanks ramona!!! sweetgemlady656@... wrote: HI Marcus, Good Luck on your surgery date. It is too bad about the type of people that you associate with. Those are the ones that have never taken a good look at themselves in the mirror. I myself would no really want to be connected with a group of people who cannot support you because you have decided to take you life in to control in a permanent matter. They are the ones that don't want to realize that they are the failures. I wen t by my old place of employment the other day and all I heard were words of encouragement. Especially since we had a friend that had passed away a year ago. We always told her that she needed to take control of her eating and she died at the age of 50. You have so much to gain from having it done. there is really no price in earth for good health. As for the beer I think that that goes under the same category as Soda. It is because of the carbonation and also the alcohol The carbonation can cause your suture line to tear and the alcohol is a stimulant. The Stimulant we don't need. Besides once you have your surgery you will find that you re evaluate the food you eat and what you eat because you just can't eat the way you did in the past. Think of the surgery as one door closing and after the surgery a new door opening with a lot of new things and a new life ahead just waiting to be discovered and enjoyed Ramona. Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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