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Hi

I spoke with Rae on tuesday of this week and she was doing well. She is

still in Durham awaiting return to the clinic. She said that she was not in

pain but, just out of it from the drugs. Maybe you can contact her at the

clinic tomorrow before she returns to Oklahoma.

Carlissa

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To: MiniGastricBypass <MiniGastricBypassonelist>; MGB-PostOp

<MGB-PostOponelist>

Subject: Has anyone heard

Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:50 PM

Has anyone heard how Rae is doing from Oklahoma? She was supposed to have

surgery on Monday but I haven't seen anything posted regarding her.

in Minnesota

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Welcome home Rae! and congrats to you!!!!!!! My husband is becoming more and

more excited about the " possibilities " of my health being better without the

weight... I too am soooooo looking forward to going!

Looking forward to hearing all the details!

Joannie

Waxahachie, Tx.

GRL1DR@... wrote:

> From: GRL1DR@...

>

> Hey there Carlissa and ...EVERYBODY!!! I am back home!!! I am feeling

> really well. This past week has just flown by. Durham is a beautiful city. I

> had my surgery Oct 18th. I can't tell you how nice the nurse, staff all the

> folks I came in contact with. Everyone, and I mean everyone in the hospital

> spoke so highly of Dr. R....as well they should! :)) I can't thank you

> enough Dr. Ruthledge for my new lease. I feel so positive, so hopeful. I can

> truly say my trip there was truly worth EVERYTHING. This morning I weighted

> in at a 8 pound lose....I was shooting for the big 10, but hey, that ain't

> too shabby! lol

>

> I got to meet Donna...hey Donna!::::::Waving::::how ya doin?.... And I saw

> Becky from a distance and by the time I made it over she was gone. ;(

> Those clinics are something else. I wished I lived closer so I could attend

> those occasionally. Talk about a power booster. It is so interesting hear

> people's stories and seeing how far others have come.

>

> Well, it is late and I am so tired. I have over 800 pieces of email that I

> gotta work my way through but I'll jump back in when possible.

>

> Rae

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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In a message dated 10/24/1999 12:04:16 AM Central Daylight Time,

hojolee@... writes:

<< Joannie

Waxahachie, Tx. >>

Thanks Joannie! All the best to you. I have been to Waxahachie. I remember

being there as a child, the Ginger Bread Trail as they called it then.

As I sit here reading emails I am sipping on a V8 Splash, Tropical

Blend....tasteeee! I am so used to gulping fluids. This is really starting

over for me. I am learning to sip. You know how you come in from being busy

or whatever and you can't wait for that cold drink of ICE water? Well, I

can't handle cold water too well. I can do smoothies and slightly chilled

juices, but I have to drink tap water...room temp even. On the way back from

NC yesterday, I filled up my lil container with ice water. I would take a

sip. A few seconds later I'd have this irritated feeling in my stomach, so it

has to be regular old water for me.

Rae

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In a message dated 10/24/1999 6:09:47 AM Central Daylight Time,

cherylw@... writes:

<< Rae,

Welcome back and congrats on making it to the other side. Its a

wonderful place to be.

Cheryl

>>

Thanks Chery...You know that sounds funny me being on the other side.

hehehehe I am loving it!

Rae

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Welcome back Rae,

It's good to be on the other side!

Karin Eby SD 9/20

Has anyone heard

> From: GRL1DR@...

>

> Hey there Carlissa and ...EVERYBODY!!! I am back home!!! I am feeling

> really well. This past week has just flown by. Durham is a beautiful city.

I

> had my surgery Oct 18th. I can't tell you how nice the nurse, staff all

the

> folks I came in contact with. Everyone, and I mean everyone in the

hospital

> spoke so highly of Dr. R....as well they should! :)) I can't thank you

> enough Dr. Ruthledge for my new lease. I feel so positive, so hopeful. I

can

> truly say my trip there was truly worth EVERYTHING. This morning I

weighted

> in at a 8 pound lose....I was shooting for the big 10, but hey, that ain't

> too shabby! lol

>

> I got to meet Donna...hey Donna!::::::Waving::::how ya doin?.... And I saw

> Becky from a distance and by the time I made it over she was gone.

> Those clinics are something else. I wished I lived closer so I could

attend

> those occasionally. Talk about a power booster. It is so interesting

hear

> people's stories and seeing how far others have come.

>

> Well, it is late and I am so tired. I have over 800 pieces of email that I

> gotta work my way through but I'll jump back in when possible.

>

> Rae

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>

>

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HI Rae !!! Congrats on your successful surgery! I just got home from the

BEACH It was really bad weather on wednesday and Thursday but Friday and

Saturday made up for the other two days. I walked the beach many times up

to 2 miles twice a day. I weighed this morning and I have lost 17lbs in two

weeks !!! I can't believe it ! I haven't been hungry at all. I just miss

eating sometimes when my family is eating. I think it's in my head more than

anything. I have started eating some potato just a few bites, and I did eat

a few bites of scrambled eggs. I did fine with them. I hope everyone is

fine. I have only opened this one of 143 E-mails. I'll respond to all I need

to just be patient with me. Donna

Has anyone heard

>From: GRL1DR@...

>

>Hey there Carlissa and ...EVERYBODY!!! I am back home!!! I am feeling

>really well. This past week has just flown by. Durham is a beautiful city.

I

>had my surgery Oct 18th. I can't tell you how nice the nurse, staff all the

>folks I came in contact with. Everyone, and I mean everyone in the hospital

>spoke so highly of Dr. R....as well they should! :)) I can't thank you

>enough Dr. Ruthledge for my new lease. I feel so positive, so hopeful. I

can

>truly say my trip there was truly worth EVERYTHING. This morning I

weighted

>in at a 8 pound lose....I was shooting for the big 10, but hey, that ain't

>too shabby! lol

>

>I got to meet Donna...hey Donna!::::::Waving::::how ya doin?.... And I saw

>Becky from a distance and by the time I made it over she was gone.

>Those clinics are something else. I wished I lived closer so I could attend

>those occasionally. Talk about a power booster. It is so interesting hear

>people's stories and seeing how far others have come.

>

>Well, it is late and I am so tired. I have over 800 pieces of email that I

>gotta work my way through but I'll jump back in when possible.

>

>Rae

>

>>This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

>Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>

>

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In a message dated 10/24/1999 2:34:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

ramdjm@... writes:

<< I just miss

eating sometimes when my family is eating. I think it's in my head more than

anything. >>

This is me Donna. I miss eating with my family. When I really sit and think

about it...I am not hungry. I just want to eat for the sake of eating. Dr R

did his part and here is when I do mine.

rae

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Hi Carlissa! You know it's funny you brought up the thing about the water.

I am soooo sick of juice I never really liked V-8 so that's not even an

alternative. I reallly miss my tea! waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa OK so I

will quit crying . : ) but seriously Is there any reason why we can't have

decalf. If I'm not mistaken I think it's the caffine in the coffee and tea

that we are not supposed to have . Does anyone know about Decalf being ok? I

really am so tired of these juices. I can understand why it's so hard for

people to stay on the liquids for so long. Donna 17lbs gone in 2

weeks YIPEEEE!!!!

>Rae

>The ice water is a killer at times. I always have to let it warm up a bit

>before drinking. Somehow water taste so good to me now. I prefer it over

>anything else.

>CB

>

>

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Rae

The ice water is a killer at times. I always have to let it warm up a bit

before drinking. Somehow water taste so good to me now. I prefer it over

anything else.

CB

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> From: GRL1DR@...

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> Subject: Re: Has anyone heard

> Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 4:04 PM

>

> From: GRL1DR@...

>

> In a message dated 10/24/1999 12:04:16 AM Central Daylight Time,

> hojolee@... writes:

>

> << Joannie

> Waxahachie, Tx. >>

>

> Thanks Joannie! All the best to you. I have been to Waxahachie. I

remember

> being there as a child, the Ginger Bread Trail as they called it then.

>

> As I sit here reading emails I am sipping on a V8 Splash, Tropical

> Blend....tasteeee! I am so used to gulping fluids. This is really

starting

> over for me. I am learning to sip. You know how you come in from being

busy

> or whatever and you can't wait for that cold drink of ICE water? Well, I

> can't handle cold water too well. I can do smoothies and slightly chilled

> juices, but I have to drink tap water...room temp even. On the way back

from

> NC yesterday, I filled up my lil container with ice water. I would take a

> sip. A few seconds later I'd have this irritated feeling in my stomach,

so it

> has to be regular old water for me.

>

> Rae

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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Hey Rae

Im so glad that things went well for you. Yes Durham is a beautiful place,

maybe because Dr. R is there. :) Im sorry that I was unable to come to the

clinic before you left for Oklahoma but........ Hopefully there will be a

time in the near future when we can see each other. Im now down 25 lbs and

I still find it amazing to lose that much weight in a short period of time.

Im looking forward to the year 2000 because I know that I will be on my way

to better days. For once the future looks brighter. I wish you continued

success in your weight loss and just call me if you need me or even if you

don't need me.

Take Care

Carlissa

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> From: GRL1DR@...

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist; MGB-PostOponelist

> Subject: Has anyone heard

> Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 4:58 AM

>

> From: GRL1DR@...

>

> Hey there Carlissa and ...EVERYBODY!!! I am back home!!! I am

feeling

> really well. This past week has just flown by. Durham is a beautiful

city. I

> had my surgery Oct 18th. I can't tell you how nice the nurse, staff all

the

> folks I came in contact with. Everyone, and I mean everyone in the

hospital

> spoke so highly of Dr. R....as well they should! :)) I can't thank you

> enough Dr. Ruthledge for my new lease. I feel so positive, so hopeful. I

can

> truly say my trip there was truly worth EVERYTHING. This morning I

weighted

> in at a 8 pound lose....I was shooting for the big 10, but hey, that

ain't

> too shabby! lol

>

> I got to meet Donna...hey Donna!::::::Waving::::how ya doin?.... And I

saw

> Becky from a distance and by the time I made it over she was gone. ;(

> Those clinics are something else. I wished I lived closer so I could

attend

> those occasionally. Talk about a power booster. It is so interesting

hear

> people's stories and seeing how far others have come.

>

> Well, it is late and I am so tired. I have over 800 pieces of email that

I

> gotta work my way through but I'll jump back in when possible.

>

> Rae

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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In a message dated 10/25/1999 5:51:42 PM Central Daylight Time,

flowers@... writes:

<< Well just experiment a little

bit and come to your own conclusions. Hey you know I had this terrible

craving for vegetables a couple of weeks ago and I even asked Dr. R. if I

could eat a little bit but he said no. After about 3-4 days the craving

went away. The craving changes daily so try to tough it out on the coffee

deal because it will pass.

Take Care >>

Oh I am not a coffee drinker Carlissa...actually I can't stand the stuff. lol

I want food!!!!lol But I keep saying it'll pass. I have been drinking the

juices of soups and other broths, yogurts, and rice pudding. I have good

experience so far no dumping or anything just withdrawals from food lol I

can't get enough water.

Rae

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Carlissa:

Is it unsweetened pineapple and pear juice in a can? I haven't seen it.

Also, white grapefruit juice that is unsweetened is pretty bitter. Did you

dilute it? Thanks.

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In a message dated 10/25/1999 8:22:00 PM Central Daylight Time,

ramdjm@... writes:

<< Hey Rae and Carlissa !!!

,About those cravings, Me too!! I want to eat really bad. I have even

chewed up a few bite of things I wouldn't dare swallow just to get the

taste. Now that's desperate. When we were at the beach last week, my family

ordered pizza and breadsticks delivered to our room. It drove me crazy just

smelling it. so I did chew up some and spit it out. I can't say I was

satisfied but it did help. Just thought I'd share that you are not alone in

the cravings. I am so afraid of hurting my new stomach during stage one I

don't eat. But look out, when I am clear to eat I know I will asap! Hope

you two are doing great. I am 2 weeks post op as of today. I have lost 17

lbs total so far. I feel great My High Blood Pressure Is NOT HIGH

ANYMORE!!!!!!! hehe!!! Dr. R is just ALL THAT !!!!!! can I get a

AMEN!!!! Talk to ya soon. Your MGB Friend Donna

P.S. Does anyone know exactly where I need to go inside Durham Regional for

the meeting on the 30th? I'll be running late so I want to be able to go

right to it without waisting time asking directions when I get there.

Thanks

>

>>

Since we are coming clean here...I sucked on a french fry this past weekend

and a piece of honey dew melon. ROFL ok ok I know that was desperate and very

silly but I had to you guys. They looked so good and I just couldn't resist

.... The melon helped my dry mouth for a second. I know you all are reading

this thinking...she is just pitiful and yes I am. My blood pressure is down

also Donna. I feel great as far as that is concerned. My energy level is

still down a bit but other wise I can't complain. I am remembering to take my

carafate and priloec <sp> I am doing a count down for taking my vitamins...I

know that will help. I have it all line up and waiting on me.

Rae

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Hey Rae and Carlissa !!!

,About those cravings, Me too!! I want to eat really bad. I have even

chewed up a few bite of things I wouldn't dare swallow just to get the

taste. Now that's desperate. When we were at the beach last week, my family

ordered pizza and breadsticks delivered to our room. It drove me crazy just

smelling it. so I did chew up some and spit it out. I can't say I was

satisfied but it did help. Just thought I'd share that you are not alone in

the cravings. I am so afraid of hurting my new stomach during stage one I

don't eat. But look out, when I am clear to eat I know I will asap! Hope

you two are doing great. I am 2 weeks post op as of today. I have lost 17

lbs total so far. I feel great My High Blood Pressure Is NOT HIGH

ANYMORE!!!!!!! hehe!!! Dr. R is just ALL THAT !!!!!! can I get a

AMEN!!!! Talk to ya soon. Your MGB Friend Donna

P.S. Does anyone know exactly where I need to go inside Durham Regional for

the meeting on the 30th? I'll be running late so I want to be able to go

right to it without waisting time asking directions when I get there.

Thanks

>

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Hey Donna!

I had to laugh about your chewing up comment..it reminded me of something

a nutritionist or some diet person said a long time ago. Basically it was

something about how it's all " bull " when people say they eat because they

like the tatse of food. She commented that our tastebuds are only in our

mouth, so that if that was the truth, then we should just chew and spit it

out-there was no need to swallow!

I still laugh at that thought!

As to the clinic directions-aim for guest parking and look for the

auditorium entrance (which is away from the main door entrance...if you

are walking in the main door, it's the sidewalk way to the left going

downhill)

SDee you there!

Stevie

> From: ramdjm@...

>

> Hey Rae and Carlissa !!!

> ,About those cravings, Me too!! I want to eat really bad. I have even

> chewed up a few bite of things I wouldn't dare swallow just to get the

> taste. Now that's desperate. When we were at the beach last week, my family

> ordered pizza and breadsticks delivered to our room. It drove me crazy just

> smelling it. so I did chew up some and spit it out. I can't say I was

> satisfied but it did help. Just thought I'd share that you are not alone in

> the cravings. I am so afraid of hurting my new stomach during stage one I

> don't eat. But look out, when I am clear to eat I know I will asap! Hope

> you two are doing great. I am 2 weeks post op as of today. I have lost 17

> lbs total so far. I feel great My High Blood Pressure Is NOT HIGH

> ANYMORE!!!!!!! hehe!!! Dr. R is just ALL THAT !!!!!! can I get a

> AMEN!!!! Talk to ya soon. Your MGB Friend Donna

>

> P.S. Does anyone know exactly where I need to go inside Durham Regional for

> the meeting on the 30th? I'll be running late so I want to be able to go

> right to it without waisting time asking directions when I get there.

> Thanks

> >

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>

>

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In a message dated 10/26/1999 9:49:54 AM Central Daylight Time,

flowers@... writes:

<<

I try to get everything unsweetened or in light syrup or in it's own

natural juices. The unsweetened grapefruit juice is not bitter at all to

me. I just can't tolerate the sweetened juice. Yes I do dilute all juices

with about an ounce of water and 3-4 ice cubes. It makes it much easier to

drink. If I don't dilute I get this incredible pain in my chest and I can't

talk or move or anything. Does anyone else get that nasty chest cramp?

Whenever I get that cramp, since my head is already down I take that time

to pray. :) You have to learn to manage your time wisely, every second

counts.

Carlissa >>

That is the same experience I have with cold water Carlissa. I am like stuck,

frozen in place until the pain passes. Needless to say I don't drink ice

cold water any more. I love the Ruby Red grapefruit juice. It is slightly

sweeter than the yellow grapefruit. I drink juices regular. I haven't had

that dumping syndrome yet. So far those things haven't bothered me. I love

apple juice.

Rae

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Carlissa:

Thanks so much for your advice. I do have a surgery date and am so excited. My

husband is not sure that my family will be able to stand me from now until

then. I am so tired all the time because I don't sleep very well and I keep

telling my family that all of that will go away after my surgery. They are so

sweet and supportive but they are now looking for ways to keep my occupied until

the surgery. I am lucky that I am going to be able to take off the entire month

of December so I will be able to recuperate, Christmas shop and enjoy the

holidays this year. I am really excited. THanks for your encouragement.

Regards,

Carlissa R. wrote:

>

>

>

> I try to get everything unsweetened or in light syrup or in it's own

> natural juices. The unsweetened grapefruit juice is not bitter at all to

> me. I just can't tolerate the sweetened juice. Yes I do dilute all juices

> with about an ounce of water and 3-4 ice cubes. It makes it much easier to

> drink. If I don't dilute I get this incredible pain in my chest and I can't

> talk or move or anything. Does anyone else get that nasty chest cramp?

> Whenever I get that cramp, since my head is already down I take that time

> to pray. :) You have to learn to manage your time wisely, every second

> counts.

>

> Carlissa

>

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> > From: Mtloytty@...

> > To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> > Subject: Re: Has anyone heard

> > Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 12:06 AM

> >

> > From: Mtloytty@...

> >

> > Carlissa:

> > Is it unsweetened pineapple and pear juice in a can? I haven't seen it.

>

> > Also, white grapefruit juice that is unsweetened is pretty bitter. Did

> you

> > dilute it? Thanks.

> >

> > > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> > Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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Rae

To be completely honest with you I have not really wanted coffee at all. To

tell you the truth I never drank very much coffee anyway so its's not an

issue. The juice can make you want to puke after a few days. I just

discovered a better deal. I tried some canned pineapple juice and pears.

Boy does it goe down well. Everything else hurts and makes me sick and

cranky. I wonder has anyone had a problem with being cranky after eating. I

feel better not eating very much. I know that sounds crazy but, it's true.

If you drink juice try some white unsweetened grapefruit juice,it tends to

go down better because it's not that sweet. Well just experiment a little

bit and come to your own conclusions. Hey you know I had this terrible

craving for vegetables a couple of weeks ago and I even asked Dr. R. if I

could eat a little bit but he said no. After about 3-4 days the craving

went away. The craving changes daily so try to tough it out on the coffee

deal because it will pass.

Take Care

Carlissa

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> From: ramdjm@...

> To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

> Subject: Re: Has anyone heard

> Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:26 AM

>

> From: ramdjm@...

>

> Hi Carlissa! You know it's funny you brought up the thing about the

water.

> I am soooo sick of juice I never really liked V-8 so that's not even an

> alternative. I reallly miss my tea! waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa OK so

I

> will quit crying . : ) but seriously Is there any reason why we can't

have

> decalf. If I'm not mistaken I think it's the caffine in the coffee and

tea

> that we are not supposed to have . Does anyone know about Decalf being

ok? I

> really am so tired of these juices. I can understand why it's so hard

for

> people to stay on the liquids for so long. Donna 17lbs gone in 2

> weeks YIPEEEE!!!!

>

> >Rae

> >The ice water is a killer at times. I always have to let it warm up a

bit

> >before drinking. Somehow water taste so good to me now. I prefer it over

> >anything else.

> >CB

> >

>

> >

>

> > This message is from the Mini-Gastric Bypass Mailing List at Onelist.com

> Please visit our web site at http://clos.net

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Well Rae, at least your honest enough to admit it. He He But I guess we

do have to be careful. You know what, now that you mentioned all these meds

we take, If your like me, by the time I drink enough to get all the stuff we

have to take down I'm so darn full I don't have room to eat much anyway. So

keep on keeping on. We are gonna do this : ) Your Friend , Donna

>Since we are coming clean here...I sucked on a french fry this past weekend

>and a piece of honey dew melon

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