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Cardiff IS by the sea -- it was one of the greatest ports in the world in

the nineteenth and early twentieth century when South Wales's coal was King.

For a shot of standing stones in Cardiff Castle grounds, with my son on

top of one, try

http://www.geocities.com/igzone/rock.html

I regret letting myself loose on the mails the other night while the worse

for drink and may have said the odd thing that was too off-the-wall or

oblique to follow. I've been " experimenting " with alcohol -- was drinking

everyday for about two weeks. Not what anyone would call heavily, I hope --

five pints British " bitter " on two occasions was maximum. My conclusions

are familiar from previous bouts of " experimentation " -- I am better off in

terms of 1) avoidance of depressive effect 2) financial considerations when

not drinking. Over the last four years I have drunk only very occasionally

and then never to the sort of excess I was formerly capable of. Growing

older and gaining the benefit of periods of long abstinence (from 1985 -- 87

with AA, latterly, and more effectively, solo) has, I hope and believe,

given me a radically different perspective on booze. I felt the urge to

have one the last two nights, as a result of the conditioning I'd already

allowed myself to build up (complex this, as it includes the social

pleasantness for a single man of going to the nearby pub for a couple of

hours). The urge was, however, easy to resist, on the strength of the

" empirical " data I was sure of. I tried VRT/ Rational Recovery momentarily.

This may have been all it needed. So, hoping to be as good as my best

guess on the matter as it concerns me, I shan't be sending anymore

alcoholically slippery posts on a regular basis,

Yours,

.

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>To: <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: RE: Re: The point

>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:16:43 -0500

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>I'm pretty sure it was The Man From Cardiff.

>

>Why is it every time I see the name Cardiff I think by the sea?

>

> Re: The point

>

>I am not sure if I am the " dude " being referred to here

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Kate

I found Cardiff, Ca., while doing a search for Cardiff material on the net.

It isn't in my " Times Atlas of the World " (concise version) so it can't be

very big. Do you know how it came to be called Cardiff -- a Welsh

connection, I would imagine. Others include ?fact Jack " whuskee " s

was from Wales!

.

See inside the National Museum of Wales, Cardiff, at

http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb (bottom of page). Go there and

handle large meteorites, see world-famous paintings, and enjoy total

animation experience of Wales emerging from order of things from the big

bang onwards.

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>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: The point

>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:22:23 -0000

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>

> > I'm pretty sure it was The Man From Cardiff.

> >

> > Why is it every time I see the name Cardiff I think by the sea?

>

>

>My grandmother lived in Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California, a very small

>town about 30 miles north of San Diego. When Doug makes reference to

>Cardiff, it always reminds me of my Grandma. :)

>

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forgot " html " , as in

http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb.html

it might even work on

http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb.html#B

but I'm not sure if I put a local target in there.

(wannabecomputernerds.anon!).

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>Subject: Re: Re: The point

>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:18:03 GMT

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>Kate

>

>I found Cardiff, Ca., while doing a search for Cardiff material on the net.

>It isn't in my " Times Atlas of the World " (concise version) so it can't be

>very big. Do you know how it came to be called Cardiff -- a Welsh

>connection, I would imagine. Others include ?fact Jack " whuskee " s

>was from Wales!

>

>.

>

>See inside the National Museum of Wales, Cardiff, at

>http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb (bottom of page). Go there and

>handle large meteorites, see world-famous paintings, and enjoy total

>animation experience of Wales emerging from order of things from the big

>bang onwards.

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

> >To: 12-step-freeegroups

> >Subject: Re: The point

> >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:22:23 -0000

> >

> >

> > > I'm pretty sure it was The Man From Cardiff.

> > >

> > > Why is it every time I see the name Cardiff I think by the sea?

> >

> >

> >My grandmother lived in Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California, a very small

> >town about 30 miles north of San Diego. When Doug makes reference to

> >Cardiff, it always reminds me of my Grandma. :)

> >

>

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If you're interested go to http://www.cardiffbythesea.org/ and click

on the " history " link. I found a map on Yahoo that shows Cardiff-by-

the-Sea but its helps if you already know where it is. Its North of

San Diego, Ca and right next door to Encinitas. My folks moved to

Encinitas from Iowa in about 1940 and my grandparents to Cardiff

sometime later. I have fond memories of the place from visiting as a

child (my parents left in 1952), but like most of southern California

it has changed a great deal. The weather and the ocean are still

wonderful, however.

Kate

> Kate

>

> I found Cardiff, Ca., while doing a search for Cardiff material on

the net.

> It isn't in my " Times Atlas of the World " (concise version) so it

can't be

> very big. Do you know how it came to be called Cardiff -- a Welsh

> connection, I would imagine. Others include ?fact Jack " whuskee "

s

> was from Wales!

>

> .

>

> See inside the National Museum of Wales, Cardiff, at

> http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb (bottom of page). Go

there and

> handle large meteorites, see world-famous paintings, and enjoy

total

> animation experience of Wales emerging from order of things from

the big

> bang onwards.

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Dear Kate

Thanks for the link -- another good reason for visiting USA, which I'd love

to do one of these days (with a name like Houston, you got to),

.

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>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: The point

>Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:52:46 -0000

>

>--

>

>If you're interested go to http://www.cardiffbythesea.org/ and click

>on the " history " link. I found a map on Yahoo that shows Cardiff-by-

>the-Sea but its helps if you already know where it is. Its North of

>San Diego, Ca and right next door to Encinitas. My folks moved to

>Encinitas from Iowa in about 1940 and my grandparents to Cardiff

>sometime later. I have fond memories of the place from visiting as a

>child (my parents left in 1952), but like most of southern California

>it has changed a great deal. The weather and the ocean are still

>wonderful, however.

>

>Kate

>

>

> > Kate

> >

> > I found Cardiff, Ca., while doing a search for Cardiff material on

>the net.

> > It isn't in my " Times Atlas of the World " (concise version) so it

>can't be

> > very big. Do you know how it came to be called Cardiff -- a Welsh

> > connection, I would imagine. Others include ?fact Jack " whuskee "

>s

> > was from Wales!

> >

> > .

> >

> > See inside the National Museum of Wales, Cardiff, at

> > http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/elegybomb (bottom of page). Go

>there and

> > handle large meteorites, see world-famous paintings, and enjoy

>total

> > animation experience of Wales emerging from order of things from

>the big

> > bang onwards.

>

>

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