Guest guest Posted February 19, 2000 Report Share Posted February 19, 2000 , I can totally relate to the lactose intolerance issue. I used to love milk and didn't know it was the problem until a couple of years before my surgery because the intolerance part didn't hit me until the next morning. I would have milk with dinner only, and the next morning I was in pain and agony. It took a really good doc to figure out that one for me. And I knew where all the rest rooms were in all the stores too and my poor husband would wait out in the car for me for 20 minutes or so while I died in there! Once my pcp figured out what was wrong with me and I gave up milk the problem went away. I felt like I had been given my freedom! Then I had my RNY and really got to experience what living is all about. I just love being " normal " . Take care, Peggy N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2000 Report Share Posted February 19, 2000 IBS--Yep--I am familir with that program--IBS people know where the bathroom is in everywhere place they go-- ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2000 Report Share Posted February 19, 2000 O.K.--Call me stupid but I did not know this stuff. I have suffered with tummy problems/nervous stomach practically since the day I was born. They were giving me traquilrs and anti-spasmodics when I was 10-12 yers old because the IBS gets bad when you are under stress. Now I have discussed with you guys bout my recent bout of stomach problems. Haven't been able to eat regular food. Up until about a month ago I could eat anything. Then I started get pain after eating and then it progressed to vomiting--I am not an newbie--My surgery was over 2 years ago. Well during upper GI or set of x-rays while drinking barium they asked if I had acid reflux--I said no--They said yes you do--I really haven't had a problem with it since my surgery but apparently there is some damage or some way they can tell it. Since then we have done a scope and small bowel follow-through. They think there may be a tiny bowel obstruction but nothing serious enough for surgery or something. During this last test they did comment that my system seems very slow - Like I was taking pain killers--They apparently slow down the motility in the bowel. I have not had a problem with IBS since my surgery Basically I can have fish, chicken, mashed potatoes, rice and pasta. Nothing with much fiber. No dairy, beef, veggies, sugar. No one had ever said anything about the no dairy until the last few weeks. Apparently my doc is doing more followup on folks--B12 shots and checking vitamin levels etcs. He got onto me for not coming in every month but no one ever told me. I talk to his office manager at least once a month because I consider her one of my friends. She never mentioned any of this to me. Oh well at least I can now eat some solid food again Kathy unpredictable foods > > > You know, 80% of Caucasians become lactose intolerant by age 40. If not > Caucasian, then LOTS sooner, generally speaking. So, but age 40, almost > everyone has been diagnosed with IBS, right? In my case, it was lactose > intolerance as my IBS vanished the day milk tasted sour to me. > > But yep. For all those " IBS " years, every time I ate a meal (and I was a > milk-o-holic), within 30 minutes, I had miserable cramping and running down > the hall. I simply stayed in restaurants til it hit me, so I could be sure > to make it to the room. And I just lived with it. And assumed it was yet > ANOTHER penalty for being morbidly obese. > > Interestingly, it was discovered by accident just a few months before my > surgery, which would make me completely lactose intolerant (and good thing, > since it's forbidden!). I'd tasted some milk which had just " turned " . That > flipped me off milk for nearly 2 months. As my surgery approached and I > could see no milk for life, I went back ON milk and within MOMENTS, there I > was, looking for the room again, after 2 months of utter freedom. Hmmm. > > So, yes, with half the world lactose intolerant (but taking their Metamucil > for treatment) and suffering with reflux, they are more predictable than we > are! We actually GET relief from all those symptoms. Sometimes! Hahah! > Actually, I've not had heartburn or reflux since the day of surgery til my > disruptions blew wide open right at the end there. So, actually, I'm in > better shape than I was pre-op! > > But like you guys, some foods hit me right today, but not tomorrow. About > the time I swear off a food for life, it settles very nicely. Still and > all, I'm better off than I was before. I used to know where every bathroom > was in every store and restaurant in town. Don't now. > > > *** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... *** > > Thanks, > > > www.vitalady.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Shabang!com is the place to get your FREE eStore, Absolutely FREE > Forever. If you have any desires to sell your products or services > online, or you want to expand your customer base for FREE, Come check > out Shabang!com FREE eStores! > http://click./1/1299/5/_/_/_/951016083/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Peggy--did they treat it for IBS for eons? I had Group Health (just guess, never test), so from age 36 to age 44, it was just IBS, take lots of Metamucil, which never helped ONE BIT. But with me, it was 20-30 minutes. Instant, double over pain & cramping and a desperate run across every store in Silverdale & Bremerton! I never even noticed that the days I had coke with lunch instead of milk that I didn't have these crises. I never knew anyone who was lactose intolerant, so hadn't a clue, just thought it was the price I paid for eating food. Don gave up ice cream 2 yrs before surgery and he stopped having so many episodes. I hardly ever ate ice cream, so never noticed it. But, OH, I SOOOO loved a cold glass of milk. I guess I'm pretty lucky that I still tolerate cheese and the low sugar yogurts and some of the other lactose-free dairy products. *** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... *** Thanks, www.vitalady.com Re: unpredictable foods > From: pegnunley@... > > , I can totally relate to the lactose intolerance issue. I used to > love milk and didn't know it was the problem until a couple of years before > my surgery because the intolerance part didn't hit me until the next morning. > I would have milk with dinner only, and the next morning I was in pain and > agony. It took a really good doc to figure out that one for me. And I knew > where all the rest rooms were in all the stores too and my poor husband would > wait out in the car for me for 20 minutes or so while I died in there! Once > my pcp figured out what was wrong with me and I gave up milk the problem went > away. I felt like I had been given my freedom! Then I had my RNY and really > got to experience what living is all about. I just love being " normal " . > Take care, Peggy N. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want to help promote education? Help kids learn to read? AND earn > extra income? Join our affiliate program for the successful Hooked > on Phonics product and you will do all three! > http://click./1/1633/5/_/_/_/951018379/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Kathy, Remember, bariatrics is such a young field, really. They can fill volumes with what they don't know about us, pre AND post-op. So much of it is up to use to discover and report so they CAN know about us. We're all part of the learning curve, as were those who went before us with intestinal bypass and VBG. We assume that because they are docs, they KNOW everything. But they don't. And most of 'em will admit it, too. So, we need to participate in the research. We need to educate them. So much of the advice they give to people is BAD advice and they will learn, later, but a whole year's worth of patients will receive bad advice that " someone " thought seemed sound. ] Eventually, they will NOT recommend milk for us post-op, because too many of us can't tolerate it. There's not enough protein in it to make it worth the suffering and the sugar intake. But for now, all those who cannot will find out the hard way, after weeks or months of suffering. Eventually, they will advise a numerical sugar gram limit, so that we needn't learn by being sick so many times. My doc does all this because he's been in the biz for 35 years. But it isn't common yet. And who knows what ELSE we can teach them if we simply report our findings as we go along?!? But we need to teach as we learn. The docs just don't know. They can only observe through a microscope whereas we LIVE the before and after. I just hope your pain will stop soon and you get to the fix needed. *** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... *** Thanks, www.vitalady.com unpredictable foods > > > > > > > > You know, 80% of Caucasians become lactose intolerant by age 40. If not > > Caucasian, then LOTS sooner, generally speaking. So, but age 40, almost > > everyone has been diagnosed with IBS, right? In my case, it was lactose > > intolerance as my IBS vanished the day milk tasted sour to me. > > > > But yep. For all those " IBS " years, every time I ate a meal (and I was a > > milk-o-holic), within 30 minutes, I had miserable cramping and running > down > > the hall. I simply stayed in restaurants til it hit me, so I could be sure > > to make it to the room. And I just lived with it. And assumed it was yet > > ANOTHER penalty for being morbidly obese. > > > > Interestingly, it was discovered by accident just a few months before my > > surgery, which would make me completely lactose intolerant (and good > thing, > > since it's forbidden!). I'd tasted some milk which had just " turned " . > That > > flipped me off milk for nearly 2 months. As my surgery approached and I > > could see no milk for life, I went back ON milk and within MOMENTS, there > I > > was, looking for the room again, after 2 months of utter freedom. Hmmm. > > > > So, yes, with half the world lactose intolerant (but taking their > Metamucil > > for treatment) and suffering with reflux, they are more predictable than > we > > are! We actually GET relief from all those symptoms. Sometimes! Hahah! > > Actually, I've not had heartburn or reflux since the day of surgery til my > > disruptions blew wide open right at the end there. So, actually, I'm in > > better shape than I was pre-op! > > > > But like you guys, some foods hit me right today, but not tomorrow. About > > the time I swear off a food for life, it settles very nicely. Still and > > all, I'm better off than I was before. I used to know where every bathroom > > was in every store and restaurant in town. Don't now. > > > > > > *** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... *** > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > www.vitalady.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Shabang!com is the place to get your FREE eStore, Absolutely FREE > > Forever. If you have any desires to sell your products or services > > online, or you want to expand your customer base for FREE, Come check > > out Shabang!com FREE eStores! > > http://click./1/1299/5/_/_/_/951016083/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa! Rates as low as 2.9% > Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, > no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the > credit you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at: > http://click./1/913/5/_/_/_/951019094/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 Where every bathroom is AND the flavor of every fiber product on the market! *** Please reply to me at: vitalady@... *** Thanks, www.vitalady.com Re: unpredictable foods > > > IBS--Yep--I am familir with that program--IBS people know where the bathroom > is in everywhere place they go-- > ----- Original Message ----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa! ZERO! Rates as low as > 0.0% Intro APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, no > hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the credit > you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at: > http://click./1/966/5/_/_/_/951019541/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 , they treated me for IBS for years right up until I started seeing the PCP that I see now. He takes any problem I tell him about very seriously and he was right on top of this one! By the way, I saw him Friday for another problem and while I was there I discussed the episodes I've been having with him. He believes it's probably caused by hypoglycemia and advised me to increase my protein and stay away from sugar. He wants me to eat 2 protein snacks a day besides protein at all my meals. I started doing that anyway last Monday and feel better than I have for a long time. I knew I was sloughing off as far as my diet was concerned, but sometimes I just forget that I had a gastric bypass and try to go back to eating the things I used to eat. Anyway, I'm back on track now and even bought some protein bars to keep around for times when I'm too lazy to cook in the morning. Take care, Peggy N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2000 Report Share Posted February 20, 2000 I have found that as far as the pain--I need to eat smaller amounts than I was a month ago. If I eat smaller amounts and eat slower I am o.k. I think I told you already that the directive is No beef-No Dairy-No veggies-No sugar Hopefully that with smaller amounts and slower will have me pain free. Kathy in Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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