Re: Are dosages different if you have a thyroid or not?

[Guest guest]

How much you need depends on your body's needs.

A person without a working thyroid does not have partial thyroid function to fall back on... but a person that does have some function, that is not taking enough hormone, ends up reducing natural function when they don't take enough and often end up with less hormone in their system then if they took none at all.

In a functioning gland, if it's still able, it increases it's size to increase production. If it's unable to do so, if it's been damaged by injury or disease, it's unable to produce enough hormone..

If you're a larger person you need more than a smaller person.

If you're a poor converter you need more than a good converter.

If your digestion isn't working correctly you need more than someone whose digestion is working properly. Synthroid, and all the synthetics, require stomach acid to remove the extra sodium molecule to make it usable by the body.

If you eat a lot of thyroid binding foods you need more.

If you take it with food in your stomach you need more

Except for the acid in the stomach issue, all of the above also apply to someone that is taking natural thyroid.

With the synthetics you also have issues with chemistry. They are notorious for not be consistent in potency and shelf life. The different color dies, used to designate the different dosages, affect some folks differently.

For example a person that is sensitive to the die used in a 200 mcg tablet may have to take 2 100 mcg tablets instead.

Another example would be someone that is taking a particular dosage buys another bottle of the same brand and dosage... it may not have the same potency... With the synthetics it can vary by up to 10 or 15%, I believe is the figure.... That means that 100 mcg tablet could be giving you anywhere from 85 mcg to 115 mcg.

So if you are on a 200 mcg dosage you could actually be taking as much as 230 mcg with one bottle and as little as 170 mcg with the next bottle.

That's why we have to monitor symptoms and/or labs to determine the correct dosage and if there is a need for adjustment. Those with Hashi's also have to deal with the gradual death of their gland.

All doctors should order labs six weeks after a dosage change, or after a brand change, to determine how the body is adjusting to the change. If you can, when you have a prescription filled, try to get several bottles at one time, check the lots to make sure that they are from the same lot. That way you will have a better chance of having consistent potency from bottle to bottle.

Topper () *who was on Synthetics for more than a decade*

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:13:57 -0000 "" writes:

Do people who have had their thyroids removed or radiation need more synthroid than regular Hashi people?

[Guest guest]

I am taking 20mg Losec about 1 1/2 - 2 hours after taking my

synthroid is this going to reduce my ability to absorb?

Dawn

> How much you need depends on your body's needs.

>

> A person without a working thyroid does not have partial thyroid

function

> to fall back on... but a person that does have some function, that

is not

> taking enough hormone, ends up reducing natural function when they

don't

> take enough and often end up with less hormone in their system

then if

> they took none at all.

>

> In a functioning gland, if it's still able, it increases it's size

to

> increase production. If it's unable to do so, if it's been damaged

by

> injury or disease, it's unable to produce enough hormone..

>

> If you're a larger person you need more than a smaller person.

> If you're a poor converter you need more than a good converter.

> If your digestion isn't working correctly you need more than

someone

> whose digestion is working properly. Synthroid, and all the

synthetics,

> require stomach acid to remove the extra sodium molecule to make it

> usable by the body.

> If you eat a lot of thyroid binding foods you need more.

> If you take it with food in your stomach you need more

>

> Except for the acid in the stomach issue, all of the above also

apply to

> someone that is taking natural thyroid.

>

> With the synthetics you also have issues with chemistry. They are

> notorious for not be consistent in potency and shelf life. The

different

> color dies, used to designate the different dosages, affect some

folks

> differently.

>

> For example a person that is sensitive to the die used in a 200 mcg

> tablet may have to take 2 100 mcg tablets instead.

>

> Another example would be someone that is taking a particular

dosage buys

> another bottle of the same brand and dosage... it may not have the

same

> potency... With the synthetics it can vary by up to 10 or 15%, I

believe

> is the figure.... That means that 100 mcg tablet could be giving

you

> anywhere from 85 mcg to 115 mcg.

>

> So if you are on a 200 mcg dosage you could actually be taking as

much as

> 230 mcg with one bottle and as little as 170 mcg with the next

bottle.

>

> That's why we have to monitor symptoms and/or labs to determine the

> correct dosage and if there is a need for adjustment. Those with

Hashi's

> also have to deal with the gradual death of their gland.

>

> All doctors should order labs six weeks after a dosage change, or

after a

> brand change, to determine how the body is adjusting to the

change. If

> you can, when you have a prescription filled, try to get several

bottles

> at one time, check the lots to make sure that they are from the

same lot.

> That way you will have a better chance of having consistent

potency from

> bottle to bottle.

>

> Topper () *who was on Synthetics for more than a decade*

>

> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:13:57 -0000 " " <garyland@y...> writes:

>

> Do people who have had their thyroids removed or radiation need

more

> synthroid than regular Hashi people?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Providing it is past that one hour of taking Synthroid, I shouldn't

think it would cause problems with either of them being absorbed...

Gossimer

> > How much you need depends on your body's needs.

> >

> > A person without a working thyroid does not have partial thyroid

> function

> > to fall back on... but a person that does have some function,

that

> is not

> > taking enough hormone, ends up reducing natural function when

they

> don't

> > take enough and often end up with less hormone in their system

> then if

> > they took none at all.

> >

> > In a functioning gland, if it's still able, it increases it's

size

> to

> > increase production. If it's unable to do so, if it's been

damaged

> by

> > injury or disease, it's unable to produce enough hormone..

> >

> > If you're a larger person you need more than a smaller person.

> > If you're a poor converter you need more than a good converter.

> > If your digestion isn't working correctly you need more than

> someone

> > whose digestion is working properly. Synthroid, and all the

> synthetics,

> > require stomach acid to remove the extra sodium molecule to make

it

> > usable by the body.

> > If you eat a lot of thyroid binding foods you need more.

> > If you take it with food in your stomach you need more

> >

> > Except for the acid in the stomach issue, all of the above also

> apply to

> > someone that is taking natural thyroid.

> >

> > With the synthetics you also have issues with chemistry. They are

> > notorious for not be consistent in potency and shelf life. The

> different

> > color dies, used to designate the different dosages, affect some

> folks

> > differently.

> >

> > For example a person that is sensitive to the die used in a 200

mcg

> > tablet may have to take 2 100 mcg tablets instead.

> >

> > Another example would be someone that is taking a particular

> dosage buys

> > another bottle of the same brand and dosage... it may not have

the

> same

> > potency... With the synthetics it can vary by up to 10 or 15%, I

> believe

> > is the figure.... That means that 100 mcg tablet could be giving

> you

> > anywhere from 85 mcg to 115 mcg.

> >

> > So if you are on a 200 mcg dosage you could actually be taking

as

> much as

> > 230 mcg with one bottle and as little as 170 mcg with the next

> bottle.

> >

> > That's why we have to monitor symptoms and/or labs to determine

the

> > correct dosage and if there is a need for adjustment. Those with

> Hashi's

> > also have to deal with the gradual death of their gland.

> >

> > All doctors should order labs six weeks after a dosage change,

or

> after a

> > brand change, to determine how the body is adjusting to the

> change. If

> > you can, when you have a prescription filled, try to get several

> bottles

> > at one time, check the lots to make sure that they are from the

> same lot.

> > That way you will have a better chance of having consistent

> potency from

> > bottle to bottle.

> >

> > Topper () *who was on Synthetics for more than a decade*

> >

> > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:13:57 -0000 " " <garyland@y...> writes:

> >

> > Do people who have had their thyroids removed or radiation need

> more

> > synthroid than regular Hashi people?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gossimer,

Thanks, I was just a bit concerned seeing as the Losec was given to

stop the gas build-up, which would interfere with the breathing

problem and was saying that Synthroid needed the acid to work.

Thanks again and have a good day

Dawn

> > > How much you need depends on your body's needs.

> > >

> > > A person without a working thyroid does not have partial

thyroid

> > function

> > > to fall back on... but a person that does have some function,

> that

> > is not

> > > taking enough hormone, ends up reducing natural function when

> they

> > don't

> > > take enough and often end up with less hormone in their system

> > then if

> > > they took none at all.

> > >

> > > In a functioning gland, if it's still able, it increases it's

> size

> > to

> > > increase production. If it's unable to do so, if it's been

> damaged

> > by

> > > injury or disease, it's unable to produce enough hormone..

> > >

> > > If you're a larger person you need more than a smaller person.

> > > If you're a poor converter you need more than a good converter.

> > > If your digestion isn't working correctly you need more than

> > someone

> > > whose digestion is working properly. Synthroid, and all the

> > synthetics,

> > > require stomach acid to remove the extra sodium molecule to

make

> it

> > > usable by the body.

> > > If you eat a lot of thyroid binding foods you need more.

> > > If you take it with food in your stomach you need more

> > >

> > > Except for the acid in the stomach issue, all of the above

also

> > apply to

> > > someone that is taking natural thyroid.

> > >

> > > With the synthetics you also have issues with chemistry. They

are

> > > notorious for not be consistent in potency and shelf life. The

> > different

> > > color dies, used to designate the different dosages, affect

some

> > folks

> > > differently.

> > >

> > > For example a person that is sensitive to the die used in a

200

> mcg

> > > tablet may have to take 2 100 mcg tablets instead.

> > >

> > > Another example would be someone that is taking a particular

> > dosage buys

> > > another bottle of the same brand and dosage... it may not have

> the

> > same

> > > potency... With the synthetics it can vary by up to 10 or 15%,

I

> > believe

> > > is the figure.... That means that 100 mcg tablet could be

giving

> > you

> > > anywhere from 85 mcg to 115 mcg.

> > >

> > > So if you are on a 200 mcg dosage you could actually be taking

> as

> > much as

> > > 230 mcg with one bottle and as little as 170 mcg with the next

> > bottle.

> > >

> > > That's why we have to monitor symptoms and/or labs to

determine

> the

> > > correct dosage and if there is a need for adjustment. Those

with

> > Hashi's

> > > also have to deal with the gradual death of their gland.

> > >

> > > All doctors should order labs six weeks after a dosage change,

> or

> > after a

> > > brand change, to determine how the body is adjusting to the

> > change. If

> > > you can, when you have a prescription filled, try to get

several

> > bottles

> > > at one time, check the lots to make sure that they are from

the

> > same lot.

> > > That way you will have a better chance of having consistent

> > potency from

> > > bottle to bottle.

> > >

> > > Topper () *who was on Synthetics for more than a decade*

> > >

> > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:13:57 -0000 " " <garyland@y...>

writes:

> > >

> > > Do people who have had their thyroids removed or radiation

need

> > more

> > > synthroid than regular Hashi people?

> > >

> > >