Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 , I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 probiogurt from white Egret Farm Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 , I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 probiogurt from white Egret Farm Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 , I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 probiogurt from white Egret Farm Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info and http://www.pecanbread.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Patti, Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book suggests a diet called The Makers Diet which included this goat yogurt, grass-fed beef and cultured veggies for treating chronic health issues. Probiogurt is a 30 hour fermented goat yogurt with added culture and no added fillers from White Egret Farm in Austin. http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html > , > I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. > > In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. > > If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. > > Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 > probiogurt from white Egret Farm > > > Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Patti, Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book suggests a diet called The Makers Diet which included this goat yogurt, grass-fed beef and cultured veggies for treating chronic health issues. Probiogurt is a 30 hour fermented goat yogurt with added culture and no added fillers from White Egret Farm in Austin. http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html > , > I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. > > In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. > > If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. > > Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 > probiogurt from white Egret Farm > > > Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > Patti, > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me to pose a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD " Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. Carol F. SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > Patti, > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me to pose a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD " Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. Carol F. SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > Patti, > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me to pose a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and practices of SCD " Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. Carol F. SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I am sorry. I was not promoting another diet but simply trying to give further info on probiogurt so I could get an answer to my original question which is.. Is the probiogurt yogurt from White Egret Farms legal? It sounds the same as the homemade yogurt from SCD. It is fermented for 30 hours and the goats milk is grass-fed and there are no fillers. I can not find a very high quality goats milk in my area. > > Patti, > > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet > > Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. > Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me to pose > a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: > > " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments > that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and > practices of SCD " > > Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. > > Carol F. > SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I am sorry. I was not promoting another diet but simply trying to give further info on probiogurt so I could get an answer to my original question which is.. Is the probiogurt yogurt from White Egret Farms legal? It sounds the same as the homemade yogurt from SCD. It is fermented for 30 hours and the goats milk is grass-fed and there are no fillers. I can not find a very high quality goats milk in my area. > > Patti, > > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet > > Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. > Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me to pose > a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: > > " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, treatments > that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of the science and > practices of SCD " > > Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. > > Carol F. > SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > > > Patti, > > > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > > > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > > > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet > > > > Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But > they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. > > Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me > to pose > > a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: > > > > " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, > treatments > > that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of > the science and > > practices of SCD " > > > > Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. > > > > Carol F. > > SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 > > > Patti, > > > Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from > > > reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book > > > suggests a diet called The Makers Diet > > > > Many diets have similarities similar to some things on SCD. But > they are not SCD and can confuse a person just starting out. > > Several have commented on The Makers Diet which again prompts me > to pose > > a pleasant reminder from our list guidelines: > > > > " Discussions and advertising of alternative diets, illegal foods, > treatments > > that are not recommended, or other subjects that are not part of > the science and > > practices of SCD " > > > > Please trust the 50 year history of SCD and its precepts. > > > > Carol F. > > SCD 3yrs, celiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 , We have tried to determine whether the yogurt is legal, but I don't think anyone has been able to get White Egret to tell which strains of bacteria they use to make their yogurt. That's the problem. Yogurt made with bifidus would be illegal. I am not sure where you live, but I know that Caprine Estates will sell milk through the mail. Last I heard, they gave a significant discount by going on their automated 2 week shipment program. Their website is: http://www.caprineestates.com Jody mom to -5 and -7 SCD 16 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi , From their website http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html , " Probiotic Strains in White Egret Farm Yogurts We do not add any Streptococcus thermophilus or Bifidobacterium species to the yogurt culture. Those two groups of organisms have been of concern to certain groups of people. We do add Lactobacillus delbrueckii, and Lactobacillus delbrueckii subspecies, including lactis, bulgaricus, and leichmanii. For the very interested, several probiotics that once stood alone as independent species have now been incorporated into the species delbrueckii. " Elaine recommends that we use yogurt starter that includes at least both S. thermophilus & L. bulgaricus. It is okay if it also includes L. acidophilus. This yogurt includes extra strains which she has not recommended. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/yoghurt_cultures.htm Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD mom of SCD 24 mos ----- > , > > We have tried to determine whether the yogurt is legal, but I don't > think anyone has been able to get White Egret to tell which > strains of bacteria they use to make their yogurt. That's the > problem. Yogurt made with bifidus would be illegal. > > I am not sure where you live, but I know that Caprine Estates will > sell milk through the mail. Last I heard, they gave a significant > discount by going on their automated 2 week shipment program. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Hi , From their website http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html , " Probiotic Strains in White Egret Farm Yogurts We do not add any Streptococcus thermophilus or Bifidobacterium species to the yogurt culture. Those two groups of organisms have been of concern to certain groups of people. We do add Lactobacillus delbrueckii, and Lactobacillus delbrueckii subspecies, including lactis, bulgaricus, and leichmanii. For the very interested, several probiotics that once stood alone as independent species have now been incorporated into the species delbrueckii. " Elaine recommends that we use yogurt starter that includes at least both S. thermophilus & L. bulgaricus. It is okay if it also includes L. acidophilus. This yogurt includes extra strains which she has not recommended. http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/yoghurt_cultures.htm Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD mom of SCD 24 mos ----- > , > > We have tried to determine whether the yogurt is legal, but I don't > think anyone has been able to get White Egret to tell which > strains of bacteria they use to make their yogurt. That's the > problem. Yogurt made with bifidus would be illegal. > > I am not sure where you live, but I know that Caprine Estates will > sell milk through the mail. Last I heard, they gave a significant > discount by going on their automated 2 week shipment program. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , I've also read both of the books by this author and have investigated the White Egret Farm yogurt. They do put in bifido bacteria (which is not legal on SCD) so I bought a yogurt maker and make my own per SCD. Hope this helps. Blessings, Liberty " Don't curse the darkness . . . Light a candle instead. " Re: probiogurt from white Egret Farm Patti, Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book suggests a diet called The Makers Diet which included this goat yogurt, grass-fed beef and cultured veggies for treating chronic health issues. Probiogurt is a 30 hour fermented goat yogurt with added culture and no added fillers from White Egret Farm in Austin. http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html > , > I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. > > In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. > > If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. > > Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 > probiogurt from white Egret Farm > > > Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , I've also read both of the books by this author and have investigated the White Egret Farm yogurt. They do put in bifido bacteria (which is not legal on SCD) so I bought a yogurt maker and make my own per SCD. Hope this helps. Blessings, Liberty " Don't curse the darkness . . . Light a candle instead. " Re: probiogurt from white Egret Farm Patti, Thank you for the response. I found out about this product from reading the book Patient Heal thyself. The author of this book suggests a diet called The Makers Diet which included this goat yogurt, grass-fed beef and cultured veggies for treating chronic health issues. Probiogurt is a 30 hour fermented goat yogurt with added culture and no added fillers from White Egret Farm in Austin. http://www.whiteegretfarm.com/html/yogurt.html > , > I'm not familiar with that probiotic. You want one that is just acidophilus only. If there are other bacterial strains in this one, Elaine would recommend against it. > > In terms of other illegals, you can check the list of illegal supplement additives that's on pecanbread.com (click " supplements " ). Then, just ask the company to tell you what else is in their probiotic besides acidophilus....any fillers, etc. Tell them you need to know EVERY single ingredient that's been added. > > If there are no illegals, and it's just acidophilus alone, then it's technically SCD legal. Most of the families on this list that are using the Custom Probiotics acidophilus are doing so because they are wanting to avoid a dairy base..... but if milk/casein is not an issue, you can use any brand of acidophilus that has no added illegals. > > Patti, mom to Katera, SCD since April '03 > probiogurt from white Egret Farm > > > Is Probiogurt from White Egret Farm in Austin legal? > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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