Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 , If your son has yeast problems, I definitely think SCD can help him. This diet starves the yeast by giving them nothing to feed on. All foods must be mononsaccharides. This is explained in BTVC, but I would suggest visiting these 2 websites in the time being: www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info www.pecanbread.com Also, I think you can give him fruit. I wouldn't overdo it, but I think in moderation, he should be fine. I don't know much about Nystatin, we've never used it. I guess I would try SCD without, and see how it goes. Gia Mom to Jack and SCD 11 mos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hi , My son is now 9 and sounds like he has similarities to your son. We never really had any bowel problems but mostly social difficulties. As your son gets older the differences become more pronounced so I can only stress how important it is to start this now. Yes, SCD should very much help. His yeast overgrowth is prohibiting his body to get nutrients from his food. Basicly his brain is starving for the nutrients he so desperately needs. These nutrients are used for, among other things, social interaction, reading body language, expressive and receptive speech, etc. I have yet to try medication to remove the yeast (we meet with our DAN doctor later this week) but using medication to kill the yeast while feeding the yeast and bacteria in the gut seems to me like taking cold medicine and then submerging yourself in the cold and flu ward at the hospital. Eventually the medicine wears off and you are surrounded by and unhealthy environment. You should be able to continue with fruit as long as you don't go overboard. You might find certain foods you want to avoid (a food log will be beneficial for this reason). Some foods are reacted to immediately while others build up and should be rotated in the diet. I think if you try this diet, you will find benefits that are entirely worth it. My son is loosing the " brain fog " that he has had socially for so long. Good luck, give it a real try. Helen, mom to three great kids, including (9 y/o, ASD, SCD 6 weeks) > Hi, > I'm waiting for the BTVC book, and I think I'm going to try it, but > I'm wondering if my 3 1/2 year old autistic son will benefit from it > because he's never had horrible BM problems. He's produced a bm just > about every day of his life once or twice a day. For a few months > they were mushier than normal, but yeast treatment and supplements > have brought them back to normal. The organic acid test showed he > was deficient in many nutrients and had a yeast overgrowth. He also > has never had any severe stimming or behaviors. His big issues are > social interaction and conversational speech. Does anyone have a > similar situation and saw results in those areas? Also, do you know > if you stop doing the nystatin and low sugar diet if you launch into > SCD? I don't know what I'll feed him if I still can't give him fruit! > Thanks for any input, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hi , My son is now 9 and sounds like he has similarities to your son. We never really had any bowel problems but mostly social difficulties. As your son gets older the differences become more pronounced so I can only stress how important it is to start this now. Yes, SCD should very much help. His yeast overgrowth is prohibiting his body to get nutrients from his food. Basicly his brain is starving for the nutrients he so desperately needs. These nutrients are used for, among other things, social interaction, reading body language, expressive and receptive speech, etc. I have yet to try medication to remove the yeast (we meet with our DAN doctor later this week) but using medication to kill the yeast while feeding the yeast and bacteria in the gut seems to me like taking cold medicine and then submerging yourself in the cold and flu ward at the hospital. Eventually the medicine wears off and you are surrounded by and unhealthy environment. You should be able to continue with fruit as long as you don't go overboard. You might find certain foods you want to avoid (a food log will be beneficial for this reason). Some foods are reacted to immediately while others build up and should be rotated in the diet. I think if you try this diet, you will find benefits that are entirely worth it. My son is loosing the " brain fog " that he has had socially for so long. Good luck, give it a real try. Helen, mom to three great kids, including (9 y/o, ASD, SCD 6 weeks) > Hi, > I'm waiting for the BTVC book, and I think I'm going to try it, but > I'm wondering if my 3 1/2 year old autistic son will benefit from it > because he's never had horrible BM problems. He's produced a bm just > about every day of his life once or twice a day. For a few months > they were mushier than normal, but yeast treatment and supplements > have brought them back to normal. The organic acid test showed he > was deficient in many nutrients and had a yeast overgrowth. He also > has never had any severe stimming or behaviors. His big issues are > social interaction and conversational speech. Does anyone have a > similar situation and saw results in those areas? Also, do you know > if you stop doing the nystatin and low sugar diet if you launch into > SCD? I don't know what I'll feed him if I still can't give him fruit! > Thanks for any input, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hi I too have a three and a half year old son, he has never given me any reason to worry about his BMs except that he went usually twice a day and slightly on the soft side but nothing drastic and he ate so well. He has slight stimming and behavioral problems and behind in social interaction and speech. I give him no supplements except Eye Q fish oil which i do not know if it is legal but find the benefits too great to stop. He has been on the diet for 23 days with no die off but less BM's (six a week)and more formed. His speech therapist has commented on his eye contact and interaction with her as being greatly improved and more willingness to follow commands. His play school says he is listening a little more. My husband and i both think his speech has come on tremendously but do not know whether we are too close to the situation. He has not had any startling results but a gradual improvement is happening so I am very happy to carry on with the diet even though trying to fill my son up is taking a lot of effort as he is permantly searching for food. Hope i was of help but know that only being on the diet such a short time I cannot answer you questions fully. alison mum to cameron ASD 3 years > Hi, > I'm waiting for the BTVC book, and I think I'm going to try it, but > I'm wondering if my 3 1/2 year old autistic son will benefit from it > because he's never had horrible BM problems. He's produced a bm just > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 I think we each have to follow our gut feeling (no pun intended) when it comes to deciding to try the SCD for our child. My son is one of the unfortunate ones that has IBD (irritable bowel syndrome) but I didn't know it until he was 6 and he had developed severe arthritic complications of IBD. I remember when he was younger, reading about Dr. Wakefield's work and being grateful that at least I didn't have to deal with THAT because my son didn't have diarrhea. He never had diarrhea until he was so sick he was in the hospital. Thank God (literally) for this diet. When his IBD " flared " it did not look good for his even being able to walk without many different drugs. When he became allergic to one of his many (15 doses per day) we had to take him off almost all of the and we started SCD. (We had tried taking him off these before with very bad results.) He has been in remission for over a year and has improved greatly with regards to his social relations and speech although he is still very " querky " , obsessive (video games), and has many social skills to learn...but then he " graduated " from his ABA program last year and does not have an aide in the classroom. This would not have been possible before the diet because of behavior. He had intensive ABA therapy when he was younger but had behavioral problems that interfered with his learning (I believe because he was in pain, etc.) This year he has had only two " meltdowns " at school and mostly " great " days. My nephew is also autistic and has IBD. Some very common forms of IBD are not diagnosed (get bad enough with diarrhea, , etc.) until the teenage years or later...my nephew's wasn't. I do not want to scare anyone into this diet, but there are some children out there who have gut issues and will greatly benefit. It is possible to try diets and not have them work for our child, we had tried the GFCF diet and not noticed positive changes...but it certainly didn't hurt my son in any lasting way, the food was healthier than what he had been eating. I do not know if this diet would help all autistic children, but it certainly helps some. If you choose to try it, I hope yours is one of them! Best wishes, Charla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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