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I finally started SCD for my son on Thursday. I wanted to do the

intro diet strictly, but he eats so few of those foods and he

requires a ton of food. We did pretty well the first three days -

chicken, more chicken, turkey and more chicken. He spat out the

sneaky pancakes, the homemade soup, scrambled eggs, the applesauce

and the pearsauce. He squished the jello in his hands. I did give

him a ripe banana (which he SHOCKED me by eating since he hasn't done

so in 3 years) because the poor little guy had zero energy. He ran a

slight fever, was lethargic, and had light brownish, yeasty-looking

soft but not loose stool.

By day 4, he was so desperate for raw fruit that I let him have a

small bit of watermelon. when he finished, he said " more wa -me -

yen " I was so blown away. I didn't even know he knew the word and

he has definitely never said it. He also asked for tomato ( " I want

ma-do " ) which he hasn't eaten or said in over a year.

My question is this - since he will not eat ANY cooked fruits or

vegetables, and since he clearly needs some carbs in his diet, should

I allow him to have small bits of raw fruit? He doesn't have D or

C. After a 3 week course of anti-fungal, he had perfect solid poops

every other day. In only 4 days, he is calmer and has uttered a few

new words. I don't want to turn food into a giant struggle, but I

want to do this in a way that will help him.

What would you do?

Thanks in advance.

(mom to (5, ASD) and Hanna (7, NT)); SCD day 5!

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I think you've done the intro for long enough.

As long as Luke's stools remain formed, I am able to give him peeled raw

ripe pears, and even golden delicious apples but not every day. All veggies

have to be cooked, for him, still, though. I don't know if this is bad

advice to be giving you so early on, or not, but Luke never ate the cooked

fruit so I was sort of in your shoes. Other veterans with much more

SCD-time under their belt will have more input/advice.

So glad to hear of his progress already - congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in NC, USA

mom to Luke, 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, 3;,22 mos;

SCD since 1/26/04

What would you do?

> I finally started SCD for my son on Thursday. I wanted to do the

> intro diet strictly, but he eats so few of those foods and he

> requires a ton of food. We did pretty well the first three days -

> chicken, more chicken, turkey and more chicken. He spat out the

> sneaky pancakes, the homemade soup, scrambled eggs, the applesauce

> and the pearsauce. He squished the jello in his hands. I did give

> him a ripe banana (which he SHOCKED me by eating since he hasn't done

> so in 3 years) because the poor little guy had zero energy. He ran a

> slight fever, was lethargic, and had light brownish, yeasty-looking

> soft but not loose stool.

>

> By day 4, he was so desperate for raw fruit that I let him have a

> small bit of watermelon. when he finished, he said " more wa -me -

> yen " I was so blown away. I didn't even know he knew the word and

> he has definitely never said it. He also asked for tomato ( " I want

> ma-do " ) which he hasn't eaten or said in over a year.

>

> My question is this - since he will not eat ANY cooked fruits or

> vegetables, and since he clearly needs some carbs in his diet, should

> I allow him to have small bits of raw fruit? He doesn't have D or

> C. After a 3 week course of anti-fungal, he had perfect solid poops

> every other day. In only 4 days, he is calmer and has uttered a few

> new words. I don't want to turn food into a giant struggle, but I

> want to do this in a way that will help him.

>

> What would you do?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> (mom to (5, ASD) and Hanna (7, NT)); SCD day 5!

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

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I too was and am in your shoes. Sam won't eat cooked fruit either and

hates the very ripe bananas. He might eat one or two per week - other

than those in his muffins. He won't go near an avocado at all.

I let him have a peeled, seeded, really ripe pear every other day or

less. Last week we had a binge on melon because I was lost for snack

ideas, but his behavior was significantly worse for it so I will not

be doing that again.

It's a sensory issue for Sam. He spit out the soup, sneaky pancakes,

eggy things, chicken croquettes and tots, pear sauce too. We did OK

on carbs with cooked carrots, lemonade and watered down pineapple juice.

You can cook fruit (even melon,) puree and make popsicles. This is

what I am going to do from now on with our melon instead.

Definately reach some sort of compromise while doing what's right for

you child. The 2 or 3 raw pears a week for Sam are enough to keep him

happy and not upset his system. If he had some everyday, I know we'd

run into problems. He can't do any raw veggies at this point either.

good luck!

Chrystee

Sam, 5 in June, behavior/sensory issues, salicylate sensitive

SCD 3 months

>

> My question is this - since he will not eat ANY cooked fruits or

> vegetables, and since he clearly needs some carbs in his diet, should

> I allow him to have small bits of raw fruit? He doesn't have D or

> C. After a 3 week course of anti-fungal, he had perfect solid poops

> every other day. In only 4 days, he is calmer and has uttered a few

> new words. I don't want to turn food into a giant struggle, but I

> want to do this in a way that will help him.

>

> What would you do?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> (mom to (5, ASD) and Hanna (7, NT)); SCD day 5!

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Hi ,

> I finally started SCD for my son on Thursday. I wanted to do the

> intro diet strictly, but he eats so few of those foods and he

> requires a ton of food. We did pretty well the first three days

That 's really great that you did the intro. :) The usual

recommendation is 3-5 days.

the poor little guy had zero energy. He ran a

> slight fever, was lethargic, and had light brownish, yeasty-

looking

> soft but not loose stool.

These are pretty typical signs of die-off.

> By day 4, he was so desperate for raw fruit that I let him have a

> small bit of watermelon. when he finished, he said " more wa -me -

> yen " I was so blown away. I didn't even know he knew the word

and

> he has definitely never said it. He also asked for tomato ( " I

want

> ma-do " ) which he hasn't eaten or said in over a year.

Congrats!

> My question is this - since he will not eat ANY cooked fruits or

> vegetables, and since he clearly needs some carbs in his diet,

should

> I allow him to have small bits of raw fruit? He doesn't have D or

> C. After a 3 week course of anti-fungal, he had perfect solid

poops

> every other day. In only 4 days, he is calmer and has uttered a

few

> new words. I don't want to turn food into a giant struggle, but I

> want to do this in a way that will help him.

If no C or D, then some raw fruit should be okay. Two bits of

advice don't add too many new things at a time and start with small

amounts and work up if no bad after effects.

Sounds like things are going great! :)

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD :)

mom of SCD 24 mos

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Hi ,

> I finally started SCD for my son on Thursday. I wanted to do the

> intro diet strictly, but he eats so few of those foods and he

> requires a ton of food. We did pretty well the first three days

That 's really great that you did the intro. :) The usual

recommendation is 3-5 days.

the poor little guy had zero energy. He ran a

> slight fever, was lethargic, and had light brownish, yeasty-

looking

> soft but not loose stool.

These are pretty typical signs of die-off.

> By day 4, he was so desperate for raw fruit that I let him have a

> small bit of watermelon. when he finished, he said " more wa -me -

> yen " I was so blown away. I didn't even know he knew the word

and

> he has definitely never said it. He also asked for tomato ( " I

want

> ma-do " ) which he hasn't eaten or said in over a year.

Congrats!

> My question is this - since he will not eat ANY cooked fruits or

> vegetables, and since he clearly needs some carbs in his diet,

should

> I allow him to have small bits of raw fruit? He doesn't have D or

> C. After a 3 week course of anti-fungal, he had perfect solid

poops

> every other day. In only 4 days, he is calmer and has uttered a

few

> new words. I don't want to turn food into a giant struggle, but I

> want to do this in a way that will help him.

If no C or D, then some raw fruit should be okay. Two bits of

advice don't add too many new things at a time and start with small

amounts and work up if no bad after effects.

Sounds like things are going great! :)

Sheila UC, 20 years -- in remission after 39 mos SCD :)

mom of SCD 24 mos

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