Re: Is Pineapple Phenolic?

May 13, 2004

This list gives a little more detail, it shows that pineapple juice is lower

than pineapple itself, and as I understand it, canned pineapple juice will have

less that fresh-juiced because it is " cooked " (I can't completely explain this).

Luke is highly sensitive and tolerates the canned juice, watered down about 1/10

fine, several times a day:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/allergydietitian/fi/salicylates-list.html Also, I'd

put carrots in the moderate category, he handles them fine after a single

serving but if I were to give them every single day he'd start to react

gradually, make sense? HTH<

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

Is pineapple phenolic?

Hi! I'm curious to know, for those of you that have to implement a

low-phenol SCD, how many of you are able to use pineapple? I've seen

several phenol-content lists, and one says it's low-phenol while

another says it's high. We can't seem to move beyond pears, but only

one of my daughters can eat pears (for the other one her lips dry and

crack then bleed the longer she's on pears). I wanted to use a

little homemade pineapple juice for their supplements. Given my

migraines, I have to follow a low-phenol diet too, and I've found I

can tolerate pears and pineapple without any problems. Apples seem

to have a lower phenol content, but I start to feel a headache coming

on if I eat them. Also, same question for carrots...one list says

it's low, the other says moderate to high. Any help would be very

much appreciated! Thanks!

--Rose (Mom to 10, back on SCD day 2, and , 8, SCD 5

months and healing!)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

May 13, 2004

Yep, that was us. I see all the reactions you list here. A gross infraction,

just something really high and too much of it, will bring on the just crazy

behaviors, slamming himself against a wall, the reaching to be held but

screaming at us not to touch him, no sleep, meltdowns, red cheeks and ears, etc.

A gradual build up will bring the irritability, hyperactivity, tantrums,

inflexibility, increase in stimmy stuff, etc. And on the pineapple juice, it's

Dole in a can. I literally water it down like 1/10, just enough to give a tiny

bit of flavor since he's " anti-water " unless literally dying of thirst.

I remember you, too, by the way! Now I better go make dinner, no small task.

in NC

Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

, age 3; and , 23 mos

All SCD since 1/26/04

No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

Is Pineapple Phenolic?

Hi ! I think I remember reading some of your posts back in

January about phenols at just about the time we were discovering the

girls' phenol issues. I remember someone posting that their child

would hold his arms out and asked to be held then would scream " don't

touch me! " (Was that you?) With my 10 y.o. the reactions are usually

crying and sobbing and difficulty falling asleep. I think she has

the whole serotonin being converted to the psychodelic Bufotenin

deal. My 8 y.o. is more red cheeks, night wakings, and possibly some

irritability. Both girls tend to have pee accidents on days that

they get high phenol foods. How about your child? What types of

reactions do you see? The carrot explanation is very similar for us

too...if more than one serving then we start to see a reaction (plus

their skin turns orange). We did Sara's diet for a short while

(about the 3rd month of SCD) and I think we may go back to that

because I found it was the first time that they didn't have a hard

coating of plaque on their teeth since going on SCD. Since the

carrots seem to tax their PST enzyme anyway, might as well stop the

carrots and take that factor out of the picture I suppose. Just wish

it didn't mean taking away one of the few foods they can " tolerate. "

--Rose (Mom to 10, and , 8, SCD 5 months)

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

May 14, 2004

What is the difference between high phenol or phenol and

salycilates? Is it the same? Lori

> Yep, that was us. I see all the reactions you list here. A gross

infraction, just something really high and too much of it, will

bring on the just crazy behaviors, slamming himself against a wall,

the reaching to be held but screaming at us not to touch him, no

sleep, meltdowns, red cheeks and ears, etc. A gradual build up will

bring the irritability, hyperactivity, tantrums, inflexibility,

increase in stimmy stuff, etc. And on the pineapple juice, it's

Dole in a can. I literally water it down like 1/10, just enough to

give a tiny bit of flavor since he's " anti-water " unless literally

dying of thirst.

>

> I remember you, too, by the way! Now I better go make dinner, no

small task.

>

> in NC

> Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate;

> , age 3; and , 23 mos

> All SCD since 1/26/04

>

> No Mom is an island. but sometimes she needs one!

>

> Is Pineapple Phenolic?

>

> Hi ! I think I remember reading some of your posts back

in

> January about phenols at just about the time we were discovering

the

> girls' phenol issues. I remember someone posting that their

child

> would hold his arms out and asked to be held then would

scream " don't

> touch me! " (Was that you?) With my 10 y.o. the reactions are

usually

> crying and sobbing and difficulty falling asleep. I think she

has

> the whole serotonin being converted to the psychodelic Bufotenin

> deal. My 8 y.o. is more red cheeks, night wakings, and possibly

some

> irritability. Both girls tend to have pee accidents on days

that

> they get high phenol foods. How about your child? What types

of

> reactions do you see? The carrot explanation is very similar

for us

> too...if more than one serving then we start to see a reaction

(plus

> their skin turns orange). We did Sara's diet for a short while

> (about the 3rd month of SCD) and I think we may go back to that

> because I found it was the first time that they didn't have a

hard

> coating of plaque on their teeth since going on SCD. Since the

> carrots seem to tax their PST enzyme anyway, might as well stop

the

> carrots and take that factor out of the picture I suppose. Just

wish

> it didn't mean taking away one of the few foods they

can " tolerate. "

> --Rose (Mom to 10, and , 8, SCD 5 months)

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

May 14, 2004