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How exactly does an organization become effective? How does it become

strong? Any benefit a member might receive is either being paid for

the membership dues, or is being offered to the group because of

their size.

The Texas Association of EMT's tried the local chapter thing, but it

never got off the ground- even though a few local chapters were

formed. What exactly can a group or 30 or 40 local members accomplish

if they are not part of a larger, stronger organization?

EMSAT hasn't done much- what can it do when it represents only a

small fraction of a group? What can it do without your help- without

the support of many others like you?

There is no organization that can or will represent EMS in the way

that EMSAT proposes- at all levels of political issues.

What would be the benefit to you at the local or regional level if

your concerns were valid, and you had the backing of an organization

that had the strength of 40,000 mambers statewide?

Consider the possibilities if we (or enough of us) lend our support

to such an organization- consider the influence a unified voice of 30

to 40 thousand members could have in Austin.

Consider the other possibilities that such an organization might be

able to offer- or might be offered by others to the groups members.

Have you ever seen what happens when two or more health insurance

companies are bidding for the business of say, a municipality? There

is fierce competition to win the contract for providing insurance to

a group of 5,000 city employees. Insurance will still cost you, but

they're willing to offer much more affordable rates and better

benefits when they;re pitching to a large group.

Heard of employee-owned credit unions? If you have enough people,

such a thing is quite possible- and guess what? Financial

institutions don't cost one dime to operate. Banking is big business,

and the owners reap the benefits. Low cost loans, higher interest

earnings, profit sharing...

Does EMSAT offer anything like this? Of course not, it's a ground

level campaign. EMSAT can only guarantee you ONE thing- that it will

never be an effective organization without your support, and the

support of many others like you.

It has, however, won the endorsement of the National Association of

EMT's as the Texas chapter/ or nearest equivalent.

There is no other. Join today- give this organization your support,

at least for say, two years. During that time, do what you can to

help the organization to grow- so that it can be effective for its

members. The decide whether you've squandered your money to a

worthless cause. If it comes down to that, then I guess we have

collectively spoken, and have said that we'd just rather roll over

and go back to sleep.

Ron

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Ron,

I'll add 1-2 things if I may. All EMSAT members receive a $10,000 LDD Policy,

they get 25% of NAEMT Dues if they wish to join them, and if they do they get

another LDD Policy from the same folks - VFIS. The $10,000 policy, and 25% of

NAEMT is worth the $35. We have also ran discount membership drives the first

2-4 years at the EMS Conference for $20, and you didn't have to be present. We

have a EMSAT Conference Planning Committee working on a possible EMSAT

Conference. We have a full time lobbyist. We have a Part Time Coordinator. We

have a Website Committee working on improving our website to be more attractive

and more inviting to potential new members. We will have EMSAT Board members at

EMS Stock. We were the first EMS Group to testify at the TDH BEM hearings in

Arlington. The fact is I can spend hours and hours more of my free time trying

to undo the bad image that Mike wants to portray, but I don't listen or pay

attention to Mike because he's good at the talking part of EMS, but I don't see

him doing the walking, and that takes $35 and volunteer work in a structured

way. If I'm correct he got him self thrown off the TEMSF Board. How did he

become the first President of it anyway. Why didn't he take that group and do

all the things he bashes everyone else for doing or not doing. All I've seen out

of Mike helping EMS is a BIG MOUTH that's like an Eveready battery. I will also

add the information Mike has posted about the so called telemarketing is totally

inaccurate. So as I said in another post " there he goes again " overloading his

Alligator mouth with his hummingbird _ _ _ May sound harsh, but when you attack

folks and look for a fight you'll find it every single time without a doubt. So

in the words of another man " BRING IT ON " , because you have now attacked me and

what I'm doing and that makes it personnal with me Mickey.

Ron H.

Member benefits

How exactly does an organization become effective? How does it become

strong? Any benefit a member might receive is either being paid for

the membership dues, or is being offered to the group because of

their size.

The Texas Association of EMT's tried the local chapter thing, but it

never got off the ground- even though a few local chapters were

formed. What exactly can a group or 30 or 40 local members accomplish

if they are not part of a larger, stronger organization?

EMSAT hasn't done much- what can it do when it represents only a

small fraction of a group? What can it do without your help- without

the support of many others like you?

There is no organization that can or will represent EMS in the way

that EMSAT proposes- at all levels of political issues.

What would be the benefit to you at the local or regional level if

your concerns were valid, and you had the backing of an organization

that had the strength of 40,000 mambers statewide?

Consider the possibilities if we (or enough of us) lend our support

to such an organization- consider the influence a unified voice of 30

to 40 thousand members could have in Austin.

Consider the other possibilities that such an organization might be

able to offer- or might be offered by others to the groups members.

Have you ever seen what happens when two or more health insurance

companies are bidding for the business of say, a municipality? There

is fierce competition to win the contract for providing insurance to

a group of 5,000 city employees. Insurance will still cost you, but

they're willing to offer much more affordable rates and better

benefits when they;re pitching to a large group.

Heard of employee-owned credit unions? If you have enough people,

such a thing is quite possible- and guess what? Financial

institutions don't cost one dime to operate. Banking is big business,

and the owners reap the benefits. Low cost loans, higher interest

earnings, profit sharing...

Does EMSAT offer anything like this? Of course not, it's a ground

level campaign. EMSAT can only guarantee you ONE thing- that it will

never be an effective organization without your support, and the

support of many others like you.

It has, however, won the endorsement of the National Association of

EMT's as the Texas chapter/ or nearest equivalent.

There is no other. Join today- give this organization your support,

at least for say, two years. During that time, do what you can to

help the organization to grow- so that it can be effective for its

members. The decide whether you've squandered your money to a

worthless cause. If it comes down to that, then I guess we have

collectively spoken, and have said that we'd just rather roll over

and go back to sleep.

Ron

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Ron, this was VERY well said. I think it is very unfortunate that there are

those in our profession who cannot see past their daily activities or even past

their own narrowed agendas to look at the WHOLE picture and try to be a positive

part of that picture. I was one of those people in the past. I am no LONGER

one of those people and have learned that making things happen on a statewide

basis is based on individual participation in meetings, discussions such as this

one, political discussions with appropriate people, and through belonging to

your professional association (whether or not you agree 100% with everything and

everyone).

I personally did not understand the telemarketing thing myself when I first knew

about it, which was BEFORE I joined EMSAT or became a Board member. However,

when I took the time to analyze the whole thing and ask questions, I realized

that MANY associations and organizations who have been around and were

established YEARS ago use this method to help raise needed funds for designated

activities. It is a legitimate form of fund raising which is with a reputable

company who has NUMEROUS professional clients, so I no longer have a problem

with it.

I will reiterate what Ron Mason and others have stated in e-mails in reply to

the current EMSAT bashing and say that either you are a part of the problem in

EMS, or you are going to be a part of an eventual solution. But until folks

come to grips with the issues and their own attitudes toward those issues

(whether it be what is going on politically in the EMS industry or whatever),

then NO organization will flourish in this state - local chapters or not. That

is why that plan as well as others mentioned didn't work in the past. We seem

to have problems in our industry with folks coming together and forming

partnerships and organizations that can effectively accomplish anything because

we spend WAY too much time trying to tear each other down. EMS folks typically

are VERY Type A, very opinionated, and very critical of others - many times not

justly so. I have been guilty of that myself and try very hard to objectively

look at all sides of an issue and ask questions of people in the know, etc.

before I become a negative force regarding issues. The biggest step toward that

goal in my own personal life was swallowing my pride after I had been a negative

force and joining EMSAT and becoming involved all the way to the state offices

instead of spending my time and energy trying to turn folks away from something

that has turned out to be a positive light in such a chaotic profession.

Jane Hill

For me, I have seen up close and personal accomplishments of EMSAT, GETAC, TAA

and others - especially within the last two years. ALL of these organizations

overlap in areas and usually end up working together toward common goals, but

the only one of the bunch that is designed for YOU, the EMS

certificant/Licensee, is EMSAT.

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> Ron,

> I'll add 1-2 things if I may. All EMSAT members receive a $10,000 LDD

Policy, they get 25% of NAEMT Dues if they wish

> to join them, and if they do they get another LDD Policy from the same

folks - VFIS. The $10,000 policy, and 25% of NAEMT

> is worth the $35. We have also ran discount membership drives the first

2-4 years at the EMS Conference for $20, and you

> didn't have to be present. We have a EMSAT Conference Planning Committee

working on a possible EMSAT Conference. We have

> a full time lobbyist. We have a Part Time Coordinator. We have a Website

Committee working on improving our website to be

> more attractive and more inviting to potential new members. We will have

EMSAT Board members at EMS Stock. We were the

> first EMS Group to testify at the TDH BEM hearings in Arlington. The fact

is I can spend hours and hours more of my free

> time trying to undo the bad image that Mike wants to portray..

Ron,

I was interested in this post and the information that you were presenting

until you mentioned Mike and again started in on him personally. The above

is what I read and I could go no further. Though you made some good points

above, they were all lost when I reached that fateful sentence. Please

listen to those of reason and stop the attacks. Debating and arguing is

good, name calling and blame-placing are bad.

MIke

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