Re: started amalgam removal... and now....

[Guest guest]

Hi Minna,

take some saunas....

I am hoping you will feel better....

best wishes,

Moria

--- In @y..., " Minna Mettinen " <minna.mettinen@s...>

wrote:

>

> Subject: started amalgam removal... and now....

>

>

> am not feeling so weel.

>

> today, 1st molar amalgam removed.

> took selenium, vit. C & magnesium & B complex with zinc also.

>

> am hoping this will help support system during removal.

> ofcourse the vapours were quite impossible to avoid> this is NOT a

mercury free dentist, and cannot find one so this is what will be <

also the mercury has to come out. there is much health deterioration,

and especially from buildup in brain, hepB vaccines, flu vaccines, +

all childhood vaccines, several tetanus vaccines over yrs. ASD

deteriorates, and autoimmune symptoms have been dementing the life to

degree of having been on home nursing care for a long time at times.

being a single mother determines more urgency to get the mercury OUT

and chelate ASAP.

>

> the joint pains started again today, a couple of hours after the

removal of this filling. long bones also hurt, although seems to be

only on the right arm and leg. and right side of face/head hurts also.

(but doesnt the nerves cross over at the neck?) There is a strange

odor when inhaling deeply, and it is not in the house. It is the nose.

the filling was in the back right molar. the right sinus feels

" hollow " . body feels heavier, like it used to when autoimmune symptoms

made the body feel like it was walking through deep sand-heavy and

slow to move.

> also, there is a difference in the attention. seems that it is

preferrable to just stare into the specs of dust in the air, and

defocus on surroundings. as if attention became a lot of work. the

ears feel painful. right more so. in a strange way, as if there was

the ability to feel a hollowing passage between ear right down to the

jaw. whole lower right jaw hurts. had never had thes types of pains

when just putting fillings IN the mouth.

> is this all mercury being disturbed around? (and more so, because of

the 'regular' type dentist, who does not seem to be concerned about

mercury. ofcourse am going to need to have these removed, since life

has been dificult increasingly. and have been taking enzymes now for 9

months, gaining strength, and health in anticipation for these days of

removal of the amalgams.

>

> is there anything else that can do to help self to deal wtih this

process.

>

> looking forward to completing this removal, and the ability to

chelate... looking forward to better health in the future-minna

>

>

> " The nation is tired of false men and traitors who make promises

like

> liberators and who, on arriving in power, forget them and

constitute

> themselves as tyrants. "

> Emiliano Zapata 1879 -

1919

>

> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter "

> Dr. Luther King, Jr

>

>

[Guest guest]

how much drilling was involved? how hot do you think the amalgam

around the drill bit got? maybe its better to wait until there is

only minimal drilling needed to remove the filling and in the

meantime take supplements to induce the Metallothionein protien?

/message/56958

enzymes will give amino acids, zinc manganese and seleneomethionine

seem to be what is needed. (ALSO BORON in my opinion)

i really don't like that staring into specs of dust, thats mercury

going straight to the brain.

did he run water over the filling as he drilled and suck air from

around the filling? if hes not doing that you may be getting as much

mercury during removal as you would from erosion of the filling until

it became loose.

i am sorry you are feeling like this.

--- In @y..., " Minna Mettinen " <minna.mettinen@s...>

wrote:

>

> Subject: started amalgam removal... and now....

>

>

> am not feeling so weel.

>

> today, 1st molar amalgam removed.

> took selenium, vit. C & magnesium & B complex with zinc also.

>

> am hoping this will help support system during removal.

> ofcourse the vapours were quite impossible to avoid> this is NOT a

mercury free dentist, and cannot find one so this is what will be <

also the mercury has to come out. there is much health deterioration,

and especially from buildup in brain, hepB vaccines, flu vaccines, +

all childhood vaccines, several tetanus vaccines over yrs. ASD

deteriorates, and autoimmune symptoms have been dementing the life to

degree of having been on home nursing care for a long time at times.

being a single mother determines more urgency to get the mercury OUT

and chelate ASAP.

>

> the joint pains started again today, a couple of hours after the

removal of this filling. long bones also hurt, although seems to be

only on the right arm and leg. and right side of face/head hurts

also. (but doesnt the nerves cross over at the neck?) There is a

strange odor when inhaling deeply, and it is not in the house. It is

the nose. the filling was in the back right molar. the right sinus

feels " hollow " . body feels heavier, like it used to when autoimmune

symptoms made the body feel like it was walking through deep sand-

heavy and slow to move.

> also, there is a difference in the attention. seems that it is

preferrable to just stare into the specs of dust in the air, and

defocus on surroundings. as if attention became a lot of work. the

ears feel painful. right more so. in a strange way, as if there was

the ability to feel a hollowing passage between ear right down to the

jaw. whole lower right jaw hurts. had never had thes types of pains

when just putting fillings IN the mouth.

> is this all mercury being disturbed around? (and more so, because

of the 'regular' type dentist, who does not seem to be concerned

about mercury. ofcourse am going to need to have these removed, since

life has been dificult increasingly. and have been taking enzymes now

for 9 months, gaining strength, and health in anticipation for these

days of removal of the amalgams.

>

> is there anything else that can do to help self to deal wtih this

process.

>

> looking forward to completing this removal, and the ability to

chelate... looking forward to better health in the future-minna

>

>

> " The nation is tired of false men and traitors who make promises

like

> liberators and who, on arriving in power, forget them and

constitute

> themselves as tyrants. "

> Emiliano Zapata 1879 -

1919

>

> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter "

> Dr. Luther King, Jr

>

>

[Guest guest]

You should inform your dentists and diplomatically fill him in on the

Huggin's or IAOMT type precausions.

Even if all precausions are followed you can still get sick if you

are mercury toxic, so it's more appropriate to blaim the mercury not

the dentist.

Also, increasing your Vit C might help a bit. I went from 4 g a day

to 6 g and felt better. I take 1.5 g four times a day and weigh 200

lb. Flax oil also helps.

Finally, a bit of activated charcoal 15 minutes before and right

after the dental work might help pass the mercury through your system

without too much absorption. I did this, not sure it helped, but I

don't think it hurt.

Also, rise out your mouth a bit after the dental work and change your

clothes. Launder the clothes you wore to the dentists asap.

- in Alhambra

--- In @y..., " Minna Mettinen " <minna.mettinen@s...>

wrote:

>

> Subject: started amalgam removal... and now....

>

>

> am not feeling so weel.

>

> today, 1st molar amalgam removed.

> took selenium, vit. C & magnesium & B complex with zinc also.

>

> am hoping this will help support system during removal.

> ofcourse the vapours were quite impossible to avoid> this is NOT a

mercury free dentist, and cannot find one so this is what will be <

also the mercury has to come out. there is much health deterioration,

and especially from buildup in brain, hepB vaccines, flu vaccines, +

all childhood vaccines, several tetanus vaccines over yrs. ASD

deteriorates, and autoimmune symptoms have been dementing the life to

degree of having been on home nursing care for a long time at times.

being a single mother determines more urgency to get the mercury OUT

and chelate ASAP.

>

> the joint pains started again today, a couple of hours after the

removal of this filling. long bones also hurt, although seems to be

only on the right arm and leg. and right side of face/head hurts

also. (but doesnt the nerves cross over at the neck?) There is a

strange odor when inhaling deeply, and it is not in the house. It is

the nose. the filling was in the back right molar. the right sinus

feels " hollow " . body feels heavier, like it used to when autoimmune

symptoms made the body feel like it was walking through deep sand-

heavy and slow to move.

> also, there is a difference in the attention. seems that it is

preferrable to just stare into the specs of dust in the air, and

defocus on surroundings. as if attention became a lot of work. the

ears feel painful. right more so. in a strange way, as if there was

the ability to feel a hollowing passage between ear right down to the

jaw. whole lower right jaw hurts. had never had thes types of pains

when just putting fillings IN the mouth.

> is this all mercury being disturbed around? (and more so, because

of the 'regular' type dentist, who does not seem to be concerned

about mercury. ofcourse am going to need to have these removed, since

life has been dificult increasingly. and have been taking enzymes now

for 9 months, gaining strength, and health in anticipation for these

days of removal of the amalgams.

>

> is there anything else that can do to help self to deal wtih this

process.

>

> looking forward to completing this removal, and the ability to

chelate... looking forward to better health in the future-minna

>

>

> " The nation is tired of false men and traitors who make promises

like

> liberators and who, on arriving in power, forget them and

constitute

> themselves as tyrants. "

> Emiliano Zapata 1879 -

1919

>

> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter "

> Dr. Luther King, Jr

>

>

[Guest guest]

In reply to:

Message: 14

Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 05:37:38 -0000

From: " osip7315 " <alevin@...>

Subject: Re: started amalgam removal... and now....

***how much drilling was involved? ***

he said it was a " big " filling. whatever that means.

it is one that insurance covered, since it had a cavity.

there is one more, but it is beside the hole left from the tooth removal, and

that is not healed yet.

he hopes to do that one next.

then go onto the others.

***how hot do you think the amalgam

around the drill bit got? ***

really have no idea.

***maybe its better to wait until there is

only minimal drilling needed to remove the filling and in the

meantime take supplements to induce the Metallothionein protien?***

ok. will read about this " supplements to induce the Metallothionein protien "

thanks for the link.

*** /message/56958 ***

***enzymes will give amino acids, zinc manganese and seleneomethionine

seem to be what is needed. (ALSO BORON in my opinion)***

will go next time to town 25th. will go look for boron.

***i really don't like that staring into specs of dust, thats mercury

going straight to the brain.***

that problem is better now this morning. infact all of the problems isbetter

this morning. certainly was a crappy feeling yesterday. was worried that will

now feel like that ALL the time until able to chelate. but the improvement in

how am feeling this morning is welcome.

Do you think that didnt start the selenium early enough prior to the mercury

removal... seems that since had thought that it was good for binding the mercury

while it is coursing through the body, decided to start it yesterday morning,

while the appointment was at noon. perhaps not early enough? perhaps not enough

either? dont know. any suggestions? start selenium couple of days prior OR just

keep taking it all the time now? since have appointments for the removal each

month, once or twice a month.

***did he run water over the filling as he drilled and suck air from

around the filling?***

yes. water, lots of water, lots of suction.

***i am sorry you are feeling like this.***

thank you. was sorry too yesterday. lol

BUT this morning, noticing that am feeling better, and the staring problem is

really subsided now totally, am satisfied with the short term nature of these

reactions. joints feel good again, as well as the long bones. although the

barometer is dropping, a general sign for downward health, pre: enzymes. and

here am, getting ready to transplant some flowers, for the new summer coming

ahead.

minna

" Where are you going to be standing when the revolution comes? " Toshi Reagon

[Guest guest]

selenium(selneomethionine) is involved in a lot of beneficial stuff

in the body, so for maximuim effect it has to work its way through

various chains of synthesis.

my advice would be to take at least 100mcg daily and only stopping if

you are thinking that you are getting into the toxicty area with it.

i don't think that can happen on 100mcg but u never know.

i think that taking it is the single biggest thing u can do to help

with mercury toxicty. maybe you would take 100mcg every day and when

you are having fillings removed u might go up to 200mcg? for a couple

of days?

seleneomethionine boron zinc and msm really did something for me, i

am not quite sure what. maybe selenium and boron work together to do

something, i don't know.

> Do you think that didnt start the selenium early enough prior to

the mercury removal... seems that since had thought that it was good

for binding the mercury while it is coursing through the body,

decided to start it yesterday morning, while the appointment was at

noon. perhaps not early enough? perhaps not enough either? dont know.

any suggestions? start selenium couple of days prior OR just keep

taking it all the time now? since have appointments for the removal

each month, once or twice a month.

wow, glad you are recovering.

[Guest guest]

in response to:

Message: 5

Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:35:41 -0000

From: " Cartland " <Cartland@...>

Subject: Re: started amalgam removal... and now....

***Also, increasing your Vit C might help a bit. I went from 4 g a day

to 6 g and felt better. I take 1.5 g four times a day and weigh 200

lb. Flax oil also helps.***

oohh... that much. had no idea.

thank you for the info.

***Also, rise out your mouth a bit after the dental work and change your

clothes. Launder the clothes you wore to the dentists asap.***

ahh... didnt do those either.

good idea.

minna

" Where are you going to be standing when the revolution comes? " Toshi Reagon

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Where can I read about the Huggin's or IAOMT type precausions?

Elena

> >

> > Subject: started amalgam removal... and now....

> >

> >

> > am not feeling so weel.

> >

> > today, 1st molar amalgam removed.

> > took selenium, vit. C & magnesium & B complex with zinc also.

> >

> > am hoping this will help support system during removal.

> > ofcourse the vapours were quite impossible to avoid> this is NOT

a

> mercury free dentist, and cannot find one so this is what will be <

> also the mercury has to come out. there is much health

deterioration,

> and especially from buildup in brain, hepB vaccines, flu vaccines,

+

> all childhood vaccines, several tetanus vaccines over yrs. ASD

> deteriorates, and autoimmune symptoms have been dementing the life

to

> degree of having been on home nursing care for a long time at

times.

> being a single mother determines more urgency to get the mercury

OUT

> and chelate ASAP.

> >

> > the joint pains started again today, a couple of hours after the

> removal of this filling. long bones also hurt, although seems to

be

> only on the right arm and leg. and right side of face/head hurts

> also. (but doesnt the nerves cross over at the neck?) There is a

> strange odor when inhaling deeply, and it is not in the house. It

is

> the nose. the filling was in the back right molar. the right sinus

> feels " hollow " . body feels heavier, like it used to when autoimmune

> symptoms made the body feel like it was walking through deep sand-

> heavy and slow to move.

> > also, there is a difference in the attention. seems that it is

> preferrable to just stare into the specs of dust in the air, and

> defocus on surroundings. as if attention became a lot of work. the

> ears feel painful. right more so. in a strange way, as if there was

> the ability to feel a hollowing passage between ear right down to

the

> jaw. whole lower right jaw hurts. had never had thes types of pains

> when just putting fillings IN the mouth.

> > is this all mercury being disturbed around? (and more so, because

> of the 'regular' type dentist, who does not seem to be concerned

> about mercury. ofcourse am going to need to have these removed,

since

> life has been dificult increasingly. and have been taking enzymes

now

> for 9 months, gaining strength, and health in anticipation for

these

> days of removal of the amalgams.

> >

> > is there anything else that can do to help self to deal wtih this

> process.

> >

> > looking forward to completing this removal, and the ability to

> chelate... looking forward to better health in the future-minna

> >

> >

> > " The nation is tired of false men and traitors who make promises

> like

> > liberators and who, on arriving in power, forget them and

> constitute

> > themselves as tyrants. "

> > Emiliano Zapata

1879 -

> 1919

> >

> > " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things

that

> matter "

> > Dr. Luther King, Jr

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Hi ,

>

> Where can I read about the Huggin's or IAOMT type precausions?

/files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

The above file has a section with links to about 5 or so different

amalgam removal protocols--- along with my personal disclaimer

that I do not know which (if any) are " best " or " right " .

best wishes,

Moria

p.s. if anyone knows of OTHER protocols not listed here, please

let me know--- always happy to expand on a theme.

[Guest guest]

Huggins has a book entitled " It's All in Your Head " . Reading it convinced me I

had mercury poisoning. I do not agree with all he says but the book provides

valuable info. S

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& gt; & gt; & gt; am not feeling so weel. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; today, 1st molar

amalgam removed. & gt; & gt; took selenium, vit. C & amp; magnesium & amp; B complex

with zinc also. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; am hoping this will help support system

during removal. & gt; & gt; ofcourse the vapours were quite impossible to avoid & gt;

this is NOT a & gt; mercury free dentist, and cannot find one so this is what

will be & lt; & gt; also the mercury has to come out. there is much health

deterioration, & gt; and especially from buildup in brain, hepB vaccines, flu

vaccines, + & gt; all childhood vaccines, several tetanus vaccines over yrs. ASD

& gt; deteriorates, and autoimmune symptoms have been dementing the life to & gt;

degree of having been on home nursing care for a long time at times. & gt; being

a single mother determines more urgency to get the mercury OUT & gt; and chelate

ASAP. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; the joint pains started again today, a couple of hours

after the & gt; removal of this filling. long bones also hurt, although seems to

be & gt; only on the right arm and leg. and right side of face/head hurts & gt;

also. (but doesnt the nerves cross over at the neck?) There is a & gt; strange

odor when inhaling deeply, and it is not in the house. It is & gt; the nose. the

filling was in the back right molar. the right sinus & gt; feels " hollow " . body

feels heavier, like it used to when autoimmune & gt; symptoms made the body feel

like it was walking through deep sand- & gt; heavy and slow to move. & gt; & gt;

also, there is a difference in the attention. seems that it is & gt; preferrable

to just stare into the specs of dust in the air, and & gt; defocus on

surroundings. as if attention became a lot of work. the & gt; ears feel painful.

right more so. in a strange way, as if there was & gt; the ability to feel a

hollowing passage between ear right down to the & gt; jaw. whole lower right jaw

hurts. had never had thes types of pains & gt; when just putting fillings IN the

mouth. & gt; & gt; is this all mercury being disturbed around? (and more so,

because & gt; of the 'regular' type dentist, who does not seem to be concerned

& gt; about mercury. ofcourse am going to need to have these removed, since & gt;

life has been dificult increasingly. and have been taking enzymes now & gt; for 9

months, gaining strength, and health in anticipation for these & gt; days of

removal of the amalgams. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; is there anything else that can do

to help self to deal wtih this & gt; process. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; looking forward

to completing this removal, and the ability to & gt; chelate... looking forward

to better health in the future-minna & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; " The nation is

tired of false men and traitors who make promises & gt; like & gt; & gt; liberators

and who, on arriving in power, forget them and & gt; constitute & gt; & gt;

themselves as tyrants. " & gt; & gt;

Emiliano Zapata 1879 - & gt; 1919 & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; " Our lives begin to end

the day we become silent about things that & gt; matter " & gt; & gt; Dr.

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