Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Hi Amy, For some reason, my doctor never checks BUN, so I am not on top of the significance of those values. Sorry yours has gone up though. It was my understanding that diet had a significant impact on BUN. Just be careful to make sure your diet has the right amount of phosphorus and sodium your doctor has recommended. I struggle much more with potassium than phosphorus, and I for one really don't like the potassium restrictions. Many of my favorite fruits and veggies are high in potassium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Hi Amy, Psychotic again? You're welcome over here. I've been threatening about my impending mental illness for years. More seriously, what does your serum calcium look like? Sorry to hear about the numbers sliding. That's a big jump in BUN, but as you know, BUN is very susceptable to it's own ups and downs. Creatinine is a far more reliable indicator. If BUN went up and creatinine stayed steady, that might be suggestive of dehydration, drugs, etc. 's BUN took a hit back when he was on cyclosporine. However since he's gotten into really keeping himself hydrated, it hasn't been a problem. I hope you sort out the numb tongue. Sounds annoying! Cy Got my labs back... > Well my sodium and phosphours levels were dropping so it's good that I had them run some bloodwork! They hadn't gotten as low as they were in Oct but they were sliding. So far the addition of some higher phosphours foods seems to be getting rid of the numbness in my fingers, but my tounge is still numb. The doc said I just have to be more careful about my diet and see how things go for now. > The only other thing that was bad was my BUN it's jumped from a 28 mg/dl on 11/25/03 to a 46 mg/dl now. So this could also be the cause of the numbness in my tounge. My neph is at the hospital today so the nurse is going to check with him to see if he has any other ideas besides watching my sodium and phosphours intake closer. I'm thinking this is going to end up being one of those little annoyances that I will end up living with...ah well at least I'm not psychotic again. *or am I?? Bwahahahahaha* ) > > Amy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Hi Amy I'm not sure that BUN is of much significance. It's higher than normal, but not really dramatically so. BUN (or simply " urea " now in most places) is very changeable for one thing, and it can change a lot because of what you eat, or if you're dehydrated. BUN doesn't mean that much by itself and it has to be looked at in context with the rest of your bloodwork. I don't know why your sodium and phosphorus would be low. Both of these are generally high in renal insufficiency patients even just from the normal foods we have to eat. Personally, I would be very happy to eat more sodium if they told me to, and phosphorus too, since it would allow me to eat more cheese instead of meat for my protein How is your potassium? Not too low, is it? Pierre Got my labs back... > Well my sodium and phosphours levels were dropping so it's good that I had them run some bloodwork! They hadn't gotten as low as they were in Oct but they were sliding. So far the addition of some higher phosphours foods seems to be getting rid of the numbness in my fingers, but my tounge is still numb. The doc said I just have to be more careful about my diet and see how things go for now. > The only other thing that was bad was my BUN it's jumped from a 28 mg/dl on 11/25/03 to a 46 mg/dl now. So this could also be the cause of the numbness in my tounge. My neph is at the hospital today so the nurse is going to check with him to see if he has any other ideas besides watching my sodium and phosphours intake closer. I'm thinking this is going to end up being one of those little annoyances that I will end up living with...ah well at least I'm not psychotic again. *or am I?? Bwahahahahaha* ) > > Amy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Actually my potassium and calcium levels were normal. Vegetarians naturally tend to have a low phosphours diet and dairy free vegetarians even more so. When we started going over the foods I normally eat we were finding that I was way below the phosphours intake due to cutting out refined foods and the dietician cutting out the main phosphours sources in my diet like legumes and cutting my egg intake way down due to the cholesterol levels. All the " cheeses " I eat are dairy free and very low in sodium and phosphours too. I also was having a tendency to cut too much salt out since I never really used the stuff in the past. So doing some math we have come up with a way to keep my levels from dipping low again by diet, I hope. Over the past week of eating this new improved plan my numbness in the fingers has gone and my mental state is improving once again. My tnge' is 'till num' tho'gh. It's nice to have some of the foods back in my diet again like lentils, I love lentils. :-) I just have to watch portion sizes and amounts eaten over time. I know that BUN is variable but the rise in it was one possible explanation for the numbness I was having since my phosphours and sodium levels hadn't gotten as low as they were before. It's that never ending balancing act that I guess I'll have to learn to live with. Yet another good example of why a good dietician and finding a diet tailored to your specific needs is so darn important. Amy Re: Got my labs back... Hi Amy I'm not sure that BUN is of much significance. It's higher than normal, but not really dramatically so. BUN (or simply " urea " now in most places) is very changeable for one thing, and it can change a lot because of what you eat, or if you're dehydrated. BUN doesn't mean that much by itself and it has to be looked at in context with the rest of your bloodwork. I don't know why your sodium and phosphorus would be low. Both of these are generally high in renal insufficiency patients even just from the normal foods we have to eat. Personally, I would be very happy to eat more sodium if they told me to, and phosphorus too, since it would allow me to eat more cheese instead of meat for my protein How is your potassium? Not too low, is it? Pierre Got my labs back... > Well my sodium and phosphours levels were dropping so it's good that I had them run some bloodwork! They hadn't gotten as low as they were in Oct but they were sliding. So far the addition of some higher phosphours foods seems to be getting rid of the numbness in my fingers, but my tounge is still numb. The doc said I just have to be more careful about my diet and see how things go for now. > The only other thing that was bad was my BUN it's jumped from a 28 mg/dl on 11/25/03 to a 46 mg/dl now. So this could also be the cause of the numbness in my tounge. My neph is at the hospital today so the nurse is going to check with him to see if he has any other ideas besides watching my sodium and phosphours intake closer. I'm thinking this is going to end up being one of those little annoyances that I will end up living with...ah well at least I'm not psychotic again. *or am I?? Bwahahahahaha* ) > > Amy > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ To unsubcribe via email, iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by donations. If you would like to help, go to: http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm Thank you _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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