Guest guest Posted October 9, 2000 Report Share Posted October 9, 2000 Can't you go to the higher ups in the insurance company or file a complaint, this is not some little thing, it's important and needs to be done. I really would put up a fight. Are you on a HMO? that's why so many of them in New York are getting sued and the people are winning. Keep bugging them they will get sick of you and agree. In the mean time don't hesitate to go to the ER if you need too. They can hold there hand out for the co-pay. Can you get Medicaid? ( I am not prying) just trying to find a way to help. Take care Jen - nothing bugs me more than denying a person medical needs espically when it's not just for a skinned knee (if you know what I mean) I hope you get somewhere Jen. Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2000 Report Share Posted October 10, 2000 Hi Jen, I am so sorry things are going badly for you, wish I could help. About your son's braces, most all places have a monthly payment plan. You do have to put some down but check somewhere else. I know they are important to you and your son but if I may say so your illness could be life threating and he can live with crooked teeth. I work for a dentist and mine sure aren't straight, but they are mine. LOL They didn't do braces a lot when I was growing up like they do today and at my age I couldn't stand them in my mouth. Hope things start looking up for you and your family. God bless, Genny/Jodi's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2000 Report Share Posted October 10, 2000 Jen, please let your child's braces be one less thing on your plate. My parents could not afford them for me and I was 25 before I got them myself. The wait had absolutely ZERO affect on my life. KK-Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 My thoughts exactly. Whats funny that while watching the Vikings game Monday we all noticed that Randy Moss had braces! My kid said.... " hey mom, check it out.... my hero has braces...I bet he couldn't afford them as a kid and now 5k is like a drop in the bucket for him " . My son is so understanding.... he says " i'll get them when I grow up if I have to " . I guess what pisses me off is that his BIO dad hasn't paid me a dime of child support in three years. Recentlty he admitted himself to alochol rehab for the like 40th time. He is about 10k in back payments to me. I want to ring his neck. Jen On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:26:36 -0500, egroups wrote: > Jen, please let your child's braces be one less thing on your plate. My > parents could not afford them for me and I was 25 before I got them myself. > The wait had absolutely ZERO affect on my life. > KK-Austin > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 Jen, You can go to the welfare department and tell them you have not received child support. They will set you up and pay you what you should be getting from the deadbeat father. Then the Welfare dept. will go after the father and keep after him also capture his tax returns until he is paid up to you. In the mean time at least you won't have to get a lawyer and you will be getting monthly checks. You will then be able to get Medicaid for both you and your child as well as foodstamps and they give you a pretty good amount in foodstamps. You can also go to these food places not foodbanks but govt. food and they give you lots of foods. Actually this could be a blessing for you. My daughter had a baby at 18 (I wanted to beat her). Then her boyfriend and her broke up right after the baby was delivered they fought bad dangerously bad. She took him to court and was ordered to pay. He paid 2 checks. Then Jodi was always sick and couldn't work so this became a disaster for her. There is a lot of help out there for you. Take advantage of it please. gayle/trans.6-99 galye@... ^0^ ` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Jen I think your doctor is mistaken. Rare as it is I don't see how you could be the only one in the whole state. You very well may be the only one he has treated and if this is the case find someone with experience. My daughter was referred by her gastro because he is not a liver specialist. Please don't take offense, just want what's best for you. Take care and God bless, Genny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Hi Genny, Although I feel I am getting the best treatment, I do feel that I am limited in resources. My Gastro is very knowledgeable in liver disease, not sure how much in AIH but was the one and only one who even considered AIH as a diagnosis when all other MD's in the past just shrugged it off or misdiagnosed it. He stuck with it, eliminating all other causes and was willing to look outside my alcoholism for a diagnosis. I don't have access to a hepatologist, the liver transplant program in NM was terminated in July of last year. I have to go out of state (told its Cedars in Beverly Hills) for my transplant. Its not likely the program will return anytime soon if at all. I'm lucky that my Gastro hasn't left the state seeking more pay as many many other MD's are currently doing due to a gross receipts tax that they have to pay and medicare/medicaid reimbursments are at a low. So you see, I don't have many choices. The thought of relocating to another state is just not an option as the health insurance issues would be huge. Pre-existing condition etc.... It's my beliefe that if I need anything more then my Gastro can provide he will see to it that I am sent out of state for treatment, this has already been discussed through the insurance plan and approved if necessary. Thanks for the concern, I wish I had as many options as many of you in the group have but I don't. I work with what I have, the treatment thus far has been successful. I thank GOD every day for being able to have health insurance. I know I have said this before, those who need a liver in the state of New Mexico and do not have insurance and can't afford to pay out ot pocket will DIE. There are no indigent funds in place for them as there were just a short year ago and I feel very very bad for them. Thanks, Jen On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:45:05 EST, wrote: > Jen I think your doctor is mistaken. Rare as it is I don't see how you could > be the only one in the whole state. You very well may be the only one he has > treated and if this is the case find someone with experience. My daughter > was referred by her gastro because he is not a liver specialist. Please > don't take offense, just want what's best for you. Take care and God bless, > Genny _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Hi , Are you sure it wasn't Acutane perhaps? That stuff is real hard on the liver and Dermatologists won't prescribe it without liver function testing done or if your of child bearing age even if your on birth control. My Gastro and Dermatoligst have both been consented to the use of tetracycline for the treatment of acne and prefer it over erythromyacin with regards to the liver as I have used both over the years for the treatment of adult onset acne. How much tetracycline did your friend take to go into liver failure and how long? I have heard through the grapevine that tetracycline may have some origins in AIH but its all speculative at this point as nobody really knows for sure what triggers this disease. I thank you for your concern and input but I am not to alarmed at this point as I saw my gastro on Thursday and inquired if I could up the dosage of tetracycline as needed if the imuran starts to make me break out again. He said it was ok and there was no concern with its effect on the liver but to keep him updated. Thanks, Jen On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:11:39 EDT, wrote: > Hi. My name is and I've had AIH for a year. I just wanted to let you > know some info my hep told me. I don't want to scare you but tetracycline can > be toxic to the liver. My doctor told me of an AIH patient of his who was > prescribed teteracycline by a dermotologist and soon afterwards went into > liver failure. I don't mean to suggest this happens to everyone but it could > be making you ill. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2002 Report Share Posted March 12, 2002 Hi Jen, Thanks for writing. It really helps to hear what others know about this. Yeah, I read that Im at a greater risk if I have it, and that babies are usually born premature. If I go all the way with it and die, what a better way to die, as you give birth. But I know many things can happen. Like I said, I'll just go with the flow. This is too strange. Take care Jen, and thanks again. Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 I have pictures .. would you like to see them Jen > Jen, > Alaska? How beautiful! > > Mic > > > > yes!!? In fact, I just sent a care package out (I'm an artist so painted > >some things too > >I am living in Portland Oregon ~ > >moved from California but I grew up in Alaska > > > >jen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Sure! :) > I have pictures .. >would you like to see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Jen, I had the itching prior to transplant and since re-occurrence I have it every once in a while. I never found anything that helped. The first person I knew that had PBC told me to watch my copper intake. It helped some. I think there are suggestions at www.pbcers.org Sorry. Jo Lynne [ ] Hey Everyone!! Has anyone had itching from PBC, any suggestions? Thanks :)Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 Hi Jen: No offense, but Aleve just is not going to help that much with RA - are you taking any other meds, or is that truly it? You need to be on a DMARD to slow the progression of the disease - you may think that the Aleve is working because it decreases the pain, but what is happening to your joints and your body, is silently continuing under your skin. Relieving the pain is just not enough - believe me, I also thought that way for a while, but being in this group and hearing others stories has really opened my eyes. Have you given any consideration to taking anything else - has your doctor suggested it? Kathe in CA --- saralaughs02 <saralaughs02@...> wrote: > Hello, Jessy! > > I can relate to what you are saying. I, too, was > very young when I > started having symptoms of RA. I think it got > really bad around 23- > 24yo. I was Dx'd at age 27 and have just turned 30. > Started out > being able to tell when it was going to rain. I now > have pain that > runs from my knees to my ankles, so bad that it > feels liek I am > standing on broken bone at times. I haven't started > taking anything > other than Aleve so far. > > I know it's hard to be so young and to have such > pain in your body. > What anti-inflammatory are you on? > > Jen > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I haven't posted in a couple months, but am > having a > > > flare and was wondering if anyone had any > suggestions. > > > The rheumotiod arthritis is mainly in my feet, > and > > > then also effects my achilles tendons. They > just kill > > > me, esp in the evenings and nights. Does anyone > else > > > experience this? What would you suggest for > pain > > > relief? I am currently on Methotrexate (25 mg), > > > Prednisone, a prescription anti-inflammatory, > and > > > anything else that helps. > > > > > > Also is there anything I could ask my rheumo > doctor to > > > look into as far as the achilles tendons? Last > time, > > > he told me to use some ceyenne cream, but that > didn't > > > really work. > > > > > > What do you do when you have flares in your > feet, but > > > want to go do stuff? I know at the end day, and > the > > > next day I will pay for it, but at the same time > I am > > > 26 and want to keep up. > > > > > > Thanks for the help, > > > Jessy > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > Sports > > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy > Football > > > http://football.fantasysports. > > > > > Kathe in CA ____________________________________________________ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 I might add that it was OTC Aleve that gave me a bleeding ulcer. Sue On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, at 03:42 PM, Kathe Sabetzadeh wrote: > Hi Jen: > > No offense, but Aleve just is not going to help that > much with RA - are you taking any other meds, or is > that truly it? You need to be on a DMARD to slow the > progression of the disease - you may think that the > Aleve is working because it decreases the pain, but > what is happening to your joints and your body, is > silently continuing under your skin. Relieving the > pain is just not enough - believe me, I also thought > that way for a while, but being in this group and > hearing others stories has really opened my eyes. > Have you given any consideration to taking anything > else - has your doctor suggested it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Hello! How are you? Well, I'm sorry about the DX and then again I understand how not knowing can drive a person batty! I'm really glad that the doc took you seriously enough to take some preventive measures!!!!!! Sounds like a keeper. Anyhow, I want to congratulate you on the weight loss. Way to go!!!!! I hope that they can really get on the ball where you are concerned!!! Take care and keep us posted! XXX's Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hi Jen, I have a friend that has an autoimmune disease and has had two children since her diagnosis. You should talk to your doctor about it though. I had my children before dx of my muscle disease. I was dx 7 years ago with that. I have lost a lot of 'friends' too. My family, I have to admit has been very helpful and supportive. The people close to me, I have printed out all the information I can, and handed it to them to read. The least supportive at times is my husband. It took me a long time to understand that this is really hard on him too. He can't fix it and that bother's him so he tries to ignore it. He is getting better since my recent dx of PBC. On my blog, there is an analagy called 'spoons'. I printed it up for DH and sent the link to all my friends with computers. They all said 'oh, now I get it....'. Good luck. I was dx with PM right after having my last child. If you ever need to talk privately, let me know! Zanna My health blog: www.zannasstory.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hi Sorry I missed the orignal post about pregnancy and AIH. Just wanted to chime in and say that Kels's doctors all felt she would still have children one day. It would be considered a high risk pregnancy if she was still AIH positive and on meds, but not impossible. One of Kels doctors, who is female, was treated for the same disease as Kels by Kels same prime doctor, she is a mother of 2, a doctor, and is head of community diseases/control at the hospital. Trish > > Hi Jen, > I have a friend that has an autoimmune disease and has had two children since her diagnosis. You should talk to your doctor about it though. I had my children before dx of my muscle disease. I was dx 7 years ago with that. I have lost a lot of 'friends' too. My family, I have to admit has been very helpful and supportive. The people close to me, I have printed out all the information I can, and handed it to them to read. The least supportive at times is my husband. It took me a long time to understand that this is really hard on him too. He can't fix it and that bother's him so he tries to ignore it. He is getting better since my recent dx of PBC. > > On my blog, there is an analagy called 'spoons'. I printed it up for DH and sent the link to all my friends with computers. They all said 'oh, now I get it....'. > > Good luck. I was dx with PM right after having my last child. If you ever need to talk privately, let me know! > > Zanna > > > My health blog: > www.zannasstory.blogspot.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Well, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that one day I may be able to conceive on my own. I have endometriosis that is mostly under control with pain meds each monthy. I stopped taking the hormones that my gyne prescribed because of toxicity dangers due to the liver diseases. My older sister had a mild form of the disease and was unable to conceive and in the back of my mind I fear the same thing. My gyne said the endo hasn't caused any damage to my ovaries so that outlook is good. Now it's my liver that I'm worried about will cause the problem with wanting to conceive. The hubby and I also discussed the possibly of adoption, but will cross that bridge when we come to it. My liver doc advised me not to " try " and conceive until my liver levels stabilize and the AIH goes into remission. Ladies, thanks for your replies, I really appreciate it. It's been a hard few weeks for me and I am thankful for everyone's answers, knowledge and thoughts. Jen > > > > Hi Jen, > > I have a friend that has an autoimmune disease and has had two > children since her diagnosis. You should talk to your doctor about > it though. I had my children before dx of my muscle disease. I was > dx 7 years ago with that. I have lost a lot of 'friends' too. My > family, I have to admit has been very helpful and supportive. The > people close to me, I have printed out all the information I can, and > handed it to them to read. The least supportive at times is my > husband. It took me a long time to understand that this is really > hard on him too. He can't fix it and that bother's him so he tries > to ignore it. He is getting better since my recent dx of PBC. > > > > On my blog, there is an analagy called 'spoons'. I printed it up > for DH and sent the link to all my friends with computers. They all > said 'oh, now I get it....'. > > > > Good luck. I was dx with PM right after having my last child. If > you ever need to talk privately, let me know! > > > > Zanna > > > > > > My health blog: > > www.zannasstory.blogspot.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Well, Jen! I have some more hope for you. My autoimmune wasn't dx until my son was born, but we knew that I had had it since before that, at least a few years because I was going to doctors and trying to figure out what was wrong with me. They told me it was in my head. In the meantime, I had an ovary removed, had 2 laporoscopies to remove the endometriosis, had a fibroid tumor in my uterus and also have a double horned uterus. That means that mine has a wall about half way down that splits it into two seperate sides. My doctor said that I was lucky to conceive as there was only a couple of places for the egg to implant and survive. It if didn't implant in the right area, it would be squeezed out and not survive. The double horned uterus is a genetic condition, that one is born with. I have my two miracles. I also had part of my cervix removed due to cancerous cells. Our son was conceived after all of that! He was a preemie but due to the diligence of my OB, we had the pregnancy last as long as my boy would stay in there! He was 3#s and born 10 weeks early. He was 18 " long at 3#'s. He had such long limbs and fingers and toes, we called him spider monkey. He is now 4'3 and 62 pounds and 7 years old. He does have high functioning autism but other than that is a happy, healthy boy. You should find an OB that specializes in high risk pregnancy and talk to them about your fears. My doctor was wonderful. He even helped me get my first diagnosis. He knew I wasn't crazy. I have a site at www.polymyositis.info that tells about all of that. I am closing that site down soon but it chronicles all of it, including my dx and some treatments. Take care, If it is meant to be, it is meant to be. You can't make things better by worrying about it. My old pastor used to say 'worry is like a rocking chair, it gives you something to do but gets you no where'. I will say a prayer for you. (((HUGS))) Zanna My health blog: www.zannasstory.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Thanks and and all that have commented on this for me. I really have been weighing all the pros/cons as a hearing, protective mom and wanted to make sure i was seeing all sides of this argument. My son isn't deaf but one of the schools that I am researching is called the AZ School for the Deaf and Blind (ASDB). The campus here in AZ is like a normal day school, and they have a campus in Tuscon that is more like a boarding school but the kids go home on the weekends. Great news!!! I just found out today that I don't have to choose between the two schools after all. I can use both programs together. YAY!!! I really wanted to utilize the AGBell recommended school (which is the " oral " school) to get my son speaking and using his voice but I also don't want him to be totally frustrated because he's not confident to use his voice and has no way to communicate. I am beginning to think that ASL is becoming my crutch more than it would be his. (does that make sense?) Anyway, now that I know I can have my son attend both programs and both are free until he turns 3 yrs old the pressure is off me to make sure i choose the " best " school. I'm so relieved. Thank you so much for your insight on this. Feel free to share any other thoughts with me that you may have. Being a member of this group for just a few days has really opened my eyes to the real life possibilities and expectations. You experience is invaluable to me! Jen Jen Hi Jen, Is your son blind as well as deaf? I noticed you mentioned a school for deaf and blind. The oral vs " total communication " argument is one you will have to solve for yourself. Everyone has an opinion on it. My feeling is it never hurts to know more than one language. However, SPOKEN English is the primary language of this country, and written English tends to suffer if a person is raised using primarily ASL. Many so called Total communication schools do more signing than speaking. So you need to check the options out very carefully. Sit in a classroom, and see if the students speak or sign when they reply. See if the teacher speaks or signs. Look at the school work that is handed in. Many children who are implanted early in life (age 12 months or so) and get speech therapy and perhaps AV (audio verbal) therapy, are mainstreamed by the time they are ready for kindergarten. So while the teacher might have to wear an FM system (that hooks right into the implant), your son would be with speaking and hearing classmates. You want him speaking as soon as possible, and a speech therapist can help you encourage him to babble, and reward him for attempting speech. Babbling is an important step to speaking. If you can't hear yourself, you stop doing that. But a speech therapist is who you need to speak to about this. See if your audiologist or implant center can recommend someone for you to talk to. Cost of this should be covered by the school board in your area. One thing an orally raised child can do is lipreading. So even if there is a delay with the HA to CI transition, your son will be able to understand speech enough to get along. If he doesn't benefit from a HA, then he should be implanted fairly soon anyway. Any time there is a problem with the CI, your company can send out a replacement processor (at least that is what Cochlear does) I can't speak for the other companies. So there is an overnight delay in the process. New processor is sent overnight, goes to the audiologist who will put the program on the processor, you pick it up and take back the damaged one, and you're in business. Many insurances cover 2 processor for just that reason, so you are never out of communication. Contact the AGBell organization in Arizona and see which school they recommend. I'm sure many of the parent members have children in various schools. They can give you first hand experience. AGBell gives a free 6 month membership to parents of deaf children!! Costs nothing to join, lots of information. The Original Hi and all, Yes, my son was screened at birth. He failed the OAE but " passed " the ABR that they gave him when he was 2 days old. I've contacted two schools already... AZ School for Deaf and Blind and Desert Voices Oral Learning Center. I'm meeting with ASDB tomorrow and with DVOLC on Friday to check out what each has to offer. My understanding from what little I do know is that ASDB does a mix of Sign and Oral where OVOLC is all oral. My fear is that if I go all oral that my son won't have a way to communicate should there be a delay between hearing aids and cochlear or if in the future the cochlear has a problem. I have mixed feelings about it. Should i worry about having a " back up communication system " or is going oral the best way to go? Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Jen, That is great that you have so many options. I think that will let you see which is a better fit for your family, though I am a little worried you will get overwhelmed with two programs! I'd also encourage you to meet with kids and families who have already " graduated " from special programs and learn from them. Your implant center and/or the schools could give you some contacts. Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Good point Lydia, I will watch for signs of burnout on my son. Obviously I a little type A when it comes to getting things done but that doesn't mean that he is. Thanks for reminding me. Jen Re: Jen Hi Jen, That is great that you have so many options. I think that will let you see which is a better fit for your family, though I am a little worried you will get overwhelmed with two programs! I'd also encourage you to meet with kids and families who have already " graduated " from special programs and learn from them. Your implant center and/or the schools could give you some contacts. Lydia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I am not worried about burnout in your son -- I am worried about YOU! :-) Lydia > > Good point Lydia, > I will watch for signs of burnout on my son. Obviously I a little type A when it comes to getting things done but that doesn't mean that he is. Thanks for reminding me. > > Jen > > > > > Re: Jen > > Hi Jen, > That is great that you have so many options. I think that will let > you see which is a better fit for your family, though I am a little > worried you will get overwhelmed with two programs! I'd also > encourage you to meet with kids and families who have already > " graduated " from special programs and learn from them. Your implant > center and/or the schools could give you some contacts. > > Lydia > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 How sweet of you Lydia... In addition to everything else that I read on the CI boards i'm also reading lessons from and pamphlets that our Early Intervention counselor dropped off to me yesterday. Me burn out??? I guess i better take a look in the mirror some time during each day to make sure i'm not on " fire " Hehehehe! Jen Re: Jen > > Hi Jen, > That is great that you have so many options. I think that will let > you see which is a better fit for your family, though I am a little > worried you will get overwhelmed with two programs! I'd also > encourage you to meet with kids and families who have already > " graduated " from special programs and learn from them. Your implant > center and/or the schools could give you some contacts. > > Lydia > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I was unaware of any law but BCBS did indeed send me a letter stating they would no longer insure me and sent some information of other companies that would cover me for catistrophic conditions. This whole thing has been a nightmare but I suppose it could be worse. Thanks Dyana jen <jennybonner13@...> wrote: I thought that they had passed a law that said you could not be refused insurance due to a preexisting condition? I know I always worry that my son whose healthcare has cost millions of dollars would somehow change…My husband can never change jobs because of what the insurance does offer for us. In his first year of life he cost more than 2 million dollars. Many insurances have caps, we are so very blessed that this is not the case. I have no idea what we would have done without it.. Has the chiro helped you? JP -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.11/652 - Release Date: 1/25/2007 3:32 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/657 - Release Date: 1/29/2007 9:04 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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