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You're so right about the nutrition thing, Rogene. In some ways it

all seems so simple what will cure this...nutrition, movement,

emotional freedom...yet allopathic doctors aren't trained in this and

in truth, don't make much money from telling us to eat better, move

better and think better. No, $3,000 is nothing when it comes to

health.

One other thing the Emotional Freedom Therapist said is that he tells

ALL of his patients to be selfish and hedonistic w/ themselves

(without hurting others of course). He said those 2 words have

negative connotations but that in truth if each of us focused on

ourselves more and indulged in pleasure rather than running ourselves

ragged, pathogens wouldn't gain a foothold on us.

Thanks for always posting the Mercola articles. If you hadn't I

probably would have never heard about him. - PH

>

> PH,

>

> When it comes to one's health . . . $3000 really is a drop in the

bucket if the therapies are effective . . . Actually good health is

priceless! . . .

>

> What gets me is the thousands upon thousands people are spending on

fruitless tests and mediations that only make matters worse.

Why? . . Who's controlling the medical profession?

>

> When's the last time a conventional medical doctor told you that

nutrition comes first? Nutrition is the foundation of health. Not an

afterthought!

>

> I've been posting a lot of information from Dr. Mercola . . .

There's a lot that I don't post . . . I'd suggest that everyone

subscribe to his newsletter . . . very informative.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

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Hi Patty,

We didn't go into much detail about that because they want me to

focus on nutrition and movement for now. When I go back in 2 weeks

to discuss results, if my adrenals are suffering, they will give me

DHEA and/or pregnelone. They also work with some herbs but he didn't

go into detail. I'll definitely let everyone know...not that they

should take exactly what I'm taking because it is very

individualized...that's what's so great about this program. - PH

> > >

> > > PH . .. What is ART?

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

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Sounds great PH. I'll be interested in seeing your progress in

getting your health back.

>

> Hi All, Just wanted to let you know about my experience at Dr.

> Mercola's clinic. He no longer sees patients but his staff/program is

> incredible and I highly recommend it for those of you who are seeking

> doctors who've dealt w/ explant patients.

>

> The entire staff was knowledgeable about fungus/candida, heavy metals,

> adrenals and the dangers of implants. Everything they suggested

> follows much of Dr. Kolb's protocol but is more detailed with the

> sequencing of various supplements and detox therapies.

>

> What I liked so much is that you see one doc, who does an exam and then

> emails the next doc w/ the results so there is a lot of communication

> going on between the docs. You see one right after the other and you

> don't have to repeat yourself a million times and all the docs are on

> the same page as far as the protocol.

>

> Each patient sees a doc for Autnomic Response Testing where they

> determine toxins and illness in various areas of the body. I was told

> I have mercury from vaccines as well as infection in my jaw. They use

> ART to open blockages that have been created by the toxins, allowing

> the body to detox more readily on its own.

>

> I then saw the MD who takes a highly alternative stance. He was

> wonderful and so thorough. He believes ALL people have the ability to

> heal themselves no matter what stage of illness. He said I was very

> fortunate to have found Dr. Kolb because she is right on track w/ what

> he's seen with implants and fungal infections.

>

> Basically, they strongly believe that I must first concentrate on

> nutrition. For the next two weeks I am to keep a diary of how I feel

> after each meal in order to determine my metabolic type. If you are

> eating foods that are outside your metabolic type it stresses your body

> which then affects the adrenals which affects hormones, etc.

>

> I will be doing a stool and urine test which will identify all the

> pathogens. They will treat that accordingly after I get my diet on

> track. They also took blood to look for vitamin and mineral

> deficiences and a saliva test to address adrenal issues.

>

> The greatest thing I learned is the importance of sequencing of

> treatment. All doctors strongly advised that " Slow and steady wins the

> race. " They said do not detox until nutritional/digestive and adrenal

> issues are under control. They gave the analagy of my body as a

> stadium full of people (toxins). If everyone tries to leave the

> stadium at once, there will be lots of casualties (of the good cells)

> which will only increase adrenal issues.

>

> They also had me see a chiro there who explained the connection between

> movement and neurological symptoms. He said movement of the joints is

> critical in eradicating brain fog. He gave me several Range of Motion

> exercises to do for now and then once my adrenals are stronger, I will

> start walking daily.

>

> Finally and perhaps most importantly, I saw a therapist for Emotional

> Freedom Technique. All the doctors believe that 90% of illness is due

> to suppression of emotions. The other 10% is from toxins/ accidents/

> genes/ etc. Yes, implants are dangerous anyway, but one is

> particularly vulnerable if they suppress various emotions because that

> weakens the immune system which leads to pathogens setting up residence

> which leads to digestive probs and then liver probs, followed by

> adrenal probs and then endocrine probs.

>

> Basically, you can eat the purest food, drink the purest water, sleep

> well, breathe clean air and move great, but if the emotional foundation

> is weak, illness takes over.

>

> So, I had EFT to love and accept myself. It was amazing how effective

> it was...google it or look it up on mercola.com ....amazing stats on

> the efficacy of it!! I will have 4 more sessions either by phone or in

> person.

>

> They will retest blood, stool and urine after a while to make sure

> everything is working. One doc told me it would take 6-12 months for

> me to heal. Another said 1-2 yrs. Throughout it all, they are there

> for support by phone, email and personal visits. As I progress, they'll

> add more steps to my treatment. I can't say enough good things...it

> sure beats the last 11 mos of going to drs who know slim to nothing

> about implant illness!! ~ PH

>

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Hi All,

Just wanted to fill you in on Mercola's protocol. Today I received

my blood results…Lynn, Patty and Dede…all of you were right about

getting my thyroid antibodies tested. I came back positive for

thyroid antibodies and was diagnosed w/ hypothyroidism even w/ a

normal TSH...darn!!! At least I know for sure though.

They said they could prescribe Armour or Synthroid if I'm feeling so

bad I can hardly function, but they'd prefer I wait it out and

address adrenal issues/diet/detox first, if I can. I was torn

because I have been in agony, yet, I want to do it the most

beneficial way (according to them). They said they've seen the

autoimmune issues go away entirely through diet, adrenal support and

detox alone.

Everything else was normal except for malabsorption and anemia which

they attribute to whatever's wreaking havoc on my gut. One thing

they said is that they have never ever seen a case where the issue is

only candida. In fact they said that if someone has candida, there's

usually a larger underlying problem such as heavy metals, parasites

or bacterial infection. I'll know more when they get back the

results from six stool samples…glad that's over with!!

They also reiterated for the third time very strongly that anyone

with adrenal issues stay away from gluten. They said it's nearly

impossible to correct the adrenals if you're eating gluten,

regardless if you're gluten sensitive or not.

For anyone who has muscle twitching, pain, or restless legs, that's a

clear indication of magnesium deficiency...which Rogene, Lynda and

Dede have emphasized before. They said when the body is stressed the

very first thing that becomes deficient is magnesium.

After that I had EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) where he tapped on

my meridians while I said things like " Even though my vision is

blurry, I love and accept myself, Even though I have hypothyroidism,

bloating, mercury toxicity, etc…. " He did this for all my symptoms.

It didn't cure me but it is so effective in calming me and giving me

strength. Every time I've had it done I come away calm and feeling

in control. I highly highly recommend it for all.

Next session he wants me to come in with the top ten events that have

bothered me in my life and he'll tap for those. They said repressed

emotions cause blockages in the body that eventually make the body

susceptible to illness. While they also believe implants are toxic

they said if you remove the emotional blockages, your body detoxes

easier. He did one session on an event that's bothered me for years

and it's amazing…I feel totally neutral toward it after only 60

seconds. Even hours later…nothing, yet for years it bugged me. I

swear this stuff works!! Some chiro's offer EFT.

In all it was a good trip but next one will give me more insight to

what pathogens are having a hay day in my gut. That's when I'll

really feel like I have some direction in all this! Sorry this was

so long but wanted to give you all the scoop. Love, PH

> >

> > PH ~

> > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's new at

> http://www.aol.com

> >

>

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Thanks so much for sharing your experience with Mercola's clinic! . . . It's wonderful how they are addressing you as a whole person . . . not just a thyroid gland, history of breast implants, etc. . . It's going to be exciting watching your progress!Hugs,Rogene

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PH,

This is fantastic info and so helpful to the group! I know it is for

me. Especially the focus on adrenal issues and avoiding gluten.

WOW! Now there's something we can stress more to everyone! We've

talked about gluten issues in the past, but I remember how my

feelings were about it....I thought since I wasn't having any

immediate issues with gluten containing foods, it wasn't a problem

for me. WRONG!!! It turned out to be a problem after all, with

positive gluten sensitivity tests! But no digestive issues! I know

there are plenty of women on this group still eating gluten

containing foods because they don't think gluten is an issue. Girls,

think again! Let's tackle this thing together and all get better!

I'm convinced that many of us end up with thyroid issues....glad you

got the antibodies checked out. You may feel better with some

thyroid support, but hopefully you will be successful in getting this

autoimmune condition to go away. I've not been tested in ages--I

need to, in order to see where I'm at. I'll be following your

progress closely!

Did they mention anything about using caprylic acid for healing the

gut? How are they proposing to tackle any parasite, heavy metal or

bacterial issues? I know you don't have your results yet, but

wondered if they touched on the subject of treatment at all.

The EFT technique sounds amazing. Thanks so much PH, you're offering

very valuable contributions! I wish I had been able to go to

Mercola's clinic! My parents don't live far from there.

I saw your pics on MySpace--you've got tons of them up there! What a

lovely person you are, and your family looks beautiful and happy!

I'm so glad we've all been able to connect!

Hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > PH ~

> > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > http://www.aol.com

> > >

> >

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Hi Patty,

I hope others are getting some good info from my appointments because

sometimes when I post I wonder if others are thinking " Who does she

think she is going on and on and on about her appointments...It's not

all about her! " I think we can all learn from this place though

because they fully acknowledge the dangers of implants and have some

experience treating.

Yes, gluten sensitivity is more prevalent than we realize. A year

ago when I was first told I had it, I started reading a lot and much

of the info out there says it manifests itself differently in

everyone. It leads to digestive issues for all but the symptoms play

out in various ways, some very atypical

http://autoimmunedisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/atypical_celiac_dise

ase_symptoms

When I was on a celiac board, some people were complaining of vision

loss, dizziness, coma-like symptoms just from ingesting a crumb of

gluten!

My mom has hypothyroidism and my dad has colitis. I've read that

both can be from gluten sensitivity. Yet, because my mom, like you,

doesn't have any digestive issues, she doesn't want to give up her

bread! I know it's hard but I wonder how much better her hypo would

be if she just gave it up.

One of the first things Dr. Mercola's office asked me was what my

heriatge was. They said if you have an Irish, ish, English or

Scandinavian background your odds are much higher that you have it,

but that they feel no one can really tolerate it....that just because

you don't have overt symptoms doesn't mean that it's not harming you.

They said the only supplements they want me takng for now are

probiotics and Carlson's cod liver oil and magnesium. The rest they

want to to get through diet unless my stool/urine samples indicate

otherwise. They start out really slow, making sure the patients

adhere to the diet changes...sort of frustrating for me because I've

been strict w/ my diet for a year!

Once the parasites, etc are identified, they treat it with herbs,

supplements, prescription antifungals, or detox depending on the

level and the pathogen. They said only as a last resort do they use

antibiotics.

With the heavy metals, they treat it with a chelating agent but I

don't know which kind. They also use chlorella. They keep advising

not to treat the metals until the gut is healed and the adrenals

stronger. For adrenals they will give a DHEA, pregnenelone combo w/

something else.

Yeah, I'm so glad we're all connecting through Myspace. It's fun

getting to see the personal side of everyone. I hope more members

will join! Love, PH

> > > >

> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > > http://www.aol.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Dear P.H

Don’t think that……..

 I really appreciate what you are saying

its of immense help to me.

I have said before I am following what you

learn and pass on to us its of great help .

Thankyou

Sue

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Sent: 27 November 2007 17:28

Subject: Re: Dr.

Mercola - Optimal Wellness

Center

Hi Patty,

I hope others are getting some good info from my appointments because

sometimes when I post I wonder if others are thinking " Who does she

think she is going on and on and on about her appointments...It's not

all about her! " I think we can all learn from this place though

because they fully acknowledge the dangers of implants and have some

experience treating.

Yes, gluten sensitivity is more prevalent than we realize. A year

ago when I was first told I had it, I started reading a lot and much

of the info out there says it manifests itself differently in

everyone. It leads to digestive issues for all but the symptoms play

out in various ways, some very atypical

http://autoimmunedisease.suite101.com/article.cfm/atypical_celiac_dise

ase_symptoms

When I was on a celiac board, some people were complaining of vision

loss, dizziness, coma-like symptoms just from ingesting a crumb of

gluten!

My mom has hypothyroidism and my dad has colitis. I've read that

both can be from gluten sensitivity. Yet, because my mom, like you,

doesn't have any digestive issues, she doesn't want to give up her

bread! I know it's hard but I wonder how much better her hypo would

be if she just gave it up.

One of the first things Dr. Mercola's office asked me was what my

heriatge was. They said if you have an Irish, ish, English or

Scandinavian background your odds are much higher that you have it,

but that they feel no one can really tolerate it....that just because

you don't have overt symptoms doesn't mean that it's not harming you.

They said the only supplements they want me takng for now are

probiotics and Carlson's cod liver oil and magnesium. The rest they

want to to get through diet unless my stool/urine samples indicate

otherwise. They start out really slow, making sure the patients

adhere to the diet changes...sort of frustrating for me because I've

been strict w/ my diet for a year!

Once the parasites, etc are identified, they treat it with herbs,

supplements, prescription antifungals, or detox depending on the

level and the pathogen. They said only as a last resort do they use

antibiotics.

With the heavy metals, they treat it with a chelating agent but I

don't know which kind. They also use chlorella. They keep advising

not to treat the metals until the gut is healed and the adrenals

stronger. For adrenals they will give a DHEA, pregnenelone combo w/

something else.

Yeah, I'm so glad we're all connecting through Myspace. It's fun

getting to see the personal side of everyone. I hope more members

will join! Love, PH

> > > >

> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ************************************** See

what's new at

> > > http://www.aol.com

> > > >

> > >

> >

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PH- My doctor has checked my thyroid 5 times now and it always comes

back normal. She even checked my thyroid antibodies in August....all

normal. She said we could check my adrenals next if my fatigue

doesn't get better. I guess that has to go through the endocrinology

dept. which is why we didn't do the test today.

This is good that he found something! Means that you can treat it and

get better!

Interesting about the Candida being not the only thing causing

problems. I wonder if the detox helps with any other things that

might be going on besides the Candida? Girl, I've had to do the stool

samples before (a few times!) not fun, huh?

Glad to hear he was able to help you with some of the emotional stuff

too. That can definitely wreak havoc on our bodies!

Let us know how the rest of the tests come up!

Love, Krista

> > >

> > > PH ~

> > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > http://www.aol.com

> > >

> >

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Krista,If you'll read "The Yeast Connection", you'll begin to get an idea of how many issues Candida can cause. . . It's hard to tell what else is going on until it's under control. It's all about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. . . . When's the last time your medical doctor told you that?Hugs,Rogene

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Rogene- I know! Dr. Rubin's book goes into all the problems that

Candida can cause too! I was amazed! I read the paragraph out loud to

my husband because I couldn't belive it!

My doctor has never mentioned nutrition, she always just wants to

precribe something for this or that...ugh!

Maybe I'll read the yeast connection next!

Love, Krista

>

> Krista,

>

> If you'll read " The Yeast Connection " , you'll begin to get an idea

of how many issues Candida can cause. . . It's hard to tell what else

is going on until it's under control.

>

> It's all about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. . . . When's the

last time your medical doctor told you that?

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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PH, You're right, at least you know what's going on for sure. I had

my appt yesterday with my naturopath and I have to have blood work

done for candida antibodies, vitamin D, and he also wants to do a

food panel. My follow up with him is next month. I had my second foot

bath today and feel great! I'm also happy because my test results for

Epstein Barr and Lupus came back negative. I am so thankful for that!

> > >

> > > PH ~

> > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > http://www.aol.com

> > >

> >

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Thanks Sue, I appreciate that. I think we all learn so much from

each other. I know I have learned more from all of you than I have

from any single doctor. I certainly wouldn't have known which

questions to be asking Dr. Mercola'ss office had I not first found

this forum...and for that I am grateful! Love, PH

> > > > >

> > > > > PH ~

> > > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > > > http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com> com

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Seriously, doctors are not given much nutrition training. . . . Makes me wonder how serious they are about healing . . . or are they just agents of the drug companies.It looks like, with the crisis going on in health care costs, that nutrition would be at the top of the list! . . . And that the feds would be penalizing companies promoting junk foods. . . They are killing more people than tobacco!Hugs,Rogene

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Krista, What website did you order the book from? I only have the

Shopper's Guide book which has a lot of recipes in it. I figured I

should buy that book too and read it.

Steph

> >

> > Krista,

> >

> > If you'll read " The Yeast Connection " , you'll begin to get an

idea

> of how many issues Candida can cause. . . It's hard to tell what

else

> is going on until it's under control.

> >

> > It's all about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. . . . When's the

> last time your medical doctor told you that?

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

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PH,I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you're learning with the group! . . . That's what makes this group so powerful! . . . Knowledge is power . . . Women with knowledge are Powerful! . . . Please share whatever you want to share.Hugs,Rgoene Re: Dr. Mercola - Optimal Wellness Center

Hi Patty,

I hope others are getting some good info from my appointments because

sometimes when I post I wonder if others are thinking "Who does she

think she is going on and on and on about her appointments. ..It's not

all about her!" I think we can all learn from this place though

because they fully acknowledge the dangers of implants and have some

experience treating.

Yes, gluten sensitivity is more prevalent than we realize. A year

ago when I was first told I had it, I started reading a lot and much

of the info out there says it manifests itself differently in

everyone. It leads to digestive issues for all but the symptoms play

out in various ways, some very atypical

http://autoimmunedi sease.suite101. com/article. cfm/atypical_ celiac_dise

ase_symptoms

When I was on a celiac board, some people were complaining of vision

loss, dizziness, coma-like symptoms just from ingesting a crumb of

gluten!

My mom has hypothyroidism and my dad has colitis. I've read that

both can be from gluten sensitivity. Yet, because my mom, like you,

doesn't have any digestive issues, she doesn't want to give up her

bread! I know it's hard but I wonder how much better her hypo would

be if she just gave it up.

One of the first things Dr. Mercola's office asked me was what my

heriatge was. They said if you have an Irish, ish, English or

Scandinavian background your odds are much higher that you have it,

but that they feel no one can really tolerate it....that just because

you don't have overt symptoms doesn't mean that it's not harming you.

They said the only supplements they want me takng for now are

probiotics and Carlson's cod liver oil and magnesium. The rest they

want to to get through diet unless my stool/urine samples indicate

otherwise. They start out really slow, making sure the patients

adhere to the diet changes...sort of frustrating for me because I've

been strict w/ my diet for a year!

Once the parasites, etc are identified, they treat it with herbs,

supplements, prescription antifungals, or detox depending on the

level and the pathogen. They said only as a last resort do they use

antibiotics.

With the heavy metals, they treat it with a chelating agent but I

don't know which kind. They also use chlorella. They keep advising

not to treat the metals until the gut is healed and the adrenals

stronger. For adrenals they will give a DHEA, pregnenelone combo w/

something else.

Yeah, I'm so glad we're all connecting through Myspace. It's fun

getting to see the personal side of everyone. I hope more members

will join! Love, PH

> > > >

> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's new at

> > > http://www.aol. com

> > > >

> > >

> >

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The stool samples...I thought I was going to vomit!! Plus I also had

to do a smear...I'm just glad I'm not the person opening the tubes

and looking at it all under microscopes...at least that's what I tell

myself every time I'm digging into my own poop! What did your

results come back as? A year ago they just told me I had bacterial

overgrowth and zero beneficial bacteria.

As far as adrenals, I didn't have much luck with my endo. In fact,

most endos don't recognize adrenal problems until they are full-blown

's or Cushings Disease. I had both blood and urine tests for

cortisol but they came back normal. If you do a saliva panel (4

tests during the day), you get a more accurate pic of what's going

on. Every time I've had the saliva test, my cortisol levels are

extremely high indicating I need support of some kind. Most women on

this forum have done testing through www.canaryclub.com My

naturopaths are the ones who did mine. Some chiros do them too.

Yes, detoxing works for the other issues besides candida, but I think

it is helpful to identify whether it's metals or parasites. Often it

can be both from what I'm learning on other forums. Also, Mercola

seems to suggest a certain sequencing for all this...like no detoxing

til you know where your adrenals stand. Love, PH

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> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > >

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Steph- I got the book from half.com. I think I paid $4.oo for it!

~Krista

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> > > Krista,

> > >

> > > If you'll read " The Yeast Connection " , you'll begin to get an

> idea

> > of how many issues Candida can cause. . . It's hard to tell what

> else

> > is going on until it's under control.

> > >

> > > It's all about nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. . . . When's

the

> > last time your medical doctor told you that?

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> >

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Hi Stephie,

That's wonderful it came back negative! So glad you're feeling

better. Sounds like your naturopath knows what he's doing. That

makes all the difference in the world. I floundered for quite some

time...each doc gave me a small piece of beneficial info but I don't

think they seemed to know how to put it all together. Yours sounds

thorough! Love, PH

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> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

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> > > >

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PH- I feel for ya on the stool samples! I thought I was going to gag

while I was digging through it doing the smear! I thought about the

folks that have to open it up too. Can you imagine? All of my tests

always came back normal when doing the stool samples. In fact, I

don't think I've ever had a test come back abnormal.

Interesting about the adrenals. Perhaps I will do the canary test

this weekend. I don't want to be doing detox if there is a problem

with my adrenals.

I wish we could ALL go see Dr. Mercola!

Love, Krista

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> > > > > PH ~

> > > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > > > http://www.aol.com

> > > > >

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Thanks, Rogene. I can't tell you how much I've learned from you. I

don't think I've met any women that know more about nutrition than

the women on this forum! And the emotional support you give...it

just can't compare and I know part of that is that we truly know what

the other is going through at times.

You and the others have been so helpful to me, especially in the

beginning when I was a complete basket case, encouraging me to stress

less and be patient. I still have my moments (had one an hour ago!)

but my plan is in place and I have this forum as my safe haven. So

thank you, my friend! Love, PH

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Oh you're so very welcome PH . . . Watching women take control of their health and getting better makes it all worth while! I just pray that the day comes when women won't be treated so shabbily when they seek treatment for implant, and other autoimmune, issues.Love,Rogene

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Hi PH

Just want you to know that I really appreciate your posting the info

you get. I do read them all. I've had so much going on lately that I

haven't had a chance to respond as much as I would like to.

I appreciated the link to the article here... it lead to about an hour

of further reading. I gave up all gluten about a month ago. I do

feel better. It hasn't completely solved my digestive problems but I

know it has made a difference. I also dropped 11 pounds in about 5

weeks...so that is good for me.

So glad you are able to get all these answers and are sharing it with us.

Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > PH ~

> > > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > > > http://www.aol.com

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PH,

My TSH was "normal" too. But I had the antibodies, which is Hashimotos. Even though I don't have hypothyroid yet, I opted for the synthroid and I feel SOOOO much better. I do think this helped my fatigue the most, plus my hair loss. It takes a while for the synthroid (or even the armour) to build up in the body - so I didn't have relief for a few months which was frustrating.

Patty has mentioned that it is not good to take armour when you have adrenal issues - the RX pamphlet mentions this but I do not think this is the same with synthroid.

I would have preferred to take armour because it is natural but it didn't agree with me at all... I am sure it was because of my adrenal issues. The synthroid has never given me issues.

Lynn

Re: Dr. Mercola - Optimal Wellness Center

Hi All,Just wanted to fill you in on Mercola's protocol. Today I received my blood results…Lynn, Patty and Dede…all of you were right about getting my thyroid antibodies tested. I came back positive for thyroid antibodies and was diagnosed w/ hypothyroidism even w/ a normal TSH...darn!! ! At least I know for sure though.They said they could prescribe Armour or Synthroid if I'm feeling so bad I can hardly function, but they'd prefer I wait it out and address adrenal issues/diet/ detox first, if I can. I was torn because I have been in agony, yet, I want to do it the most beneficial way (according to them). They said they've seen the autoimmune issues go away entirely through diet, adrenal support and detox alone. Everything else was normal except for malabsorption and anemia which they attribute to whatever's wreaking havoc on my gut. One thing they said is that they have never

ever seen a case where the issue is only candida. In fact they said that if someone has candida, there's usually a larger underlying problem such as heavy metals, parasites or bacterial infection. I'll know more when they get back the results from six stool samples…glad that's over with!!They also reiterated for the third time very strongly that anyone with adrenal issues stay away from gluten. They said it's nearly impossible to correct the adrenals if you're eating gluten, regardless if you're gluten sensitive or not.For anyone who has muscle twitching, pain, or restless legs, that's a clear indication of magnesium deficiency.. .which Rogene, Lynda and Dede have emphasized before. They said when the body is stressed the very first thing that becomes deficient is magnesium.After that I had EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) where he tapped on my meridians while I said things like

"Even though my vision is blurry, I love and accept myself, Even though I have hypothyroidism, bloating, mercury toxicity, etc…." He did this for all my symptoms. It didn't cure me but it is so effective in calming me and giving me strength. Every time I've had it done I come away calm and feeling in control. I highly highly recommend it for all. Next session he wants me to come in with the top ten events that have bothered me in my life and he'll tap for those. They said repressed emotions cause blockages in the body that eventually make the body susceptible to illness. While they also believe implants are toxic they said if you remove the emotional blockages, your body detoxes easier. He did one session on an event that's bothered me for years and it's amazing…I feel totally neutral toward it after only 60 seconds. Even hours later…nothing, yet for years it bugged me. I swear this stuff

works!! Some chiro's offer EFT.In all it was a good trip but next one will give me more insight to what pathogens are having a hay day in my gut. That's when I'll really feel like I have some direction in all this! Sorry this was so long but wanted to give you all the scoop. Love, PH > >> > PH ~> > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !> > This is what you have needed. I am so happy> > you had such a great experience there. Please> > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like> > such a wonderful program. I have been getting> > his newsletter for several years now,and just> > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy> > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede> >> >> >> > ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's new at> http://www.aol. com>

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Krista & PH,

I found out today from reading (starting with the link you sent PH),

that what many labs label as normal TSH levels are actually not

normal. In 2003 the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists

changed the " normal " levels from 0.5-5.0 to 0.3-3.04. This makes a

big difference! My doctor had concerns about my thyroid in June. I

was tested and the lab said my levels were " normal " . My TSH level was

4.87. My rheumatologist looked at my records yesterday because he

said he wanted my thyroid checked... then said, " I was checked in June

and it was normal " . Don't these guys do any homework? Not to mention

that the lab is still calling that normal?

Krista... what were your TSH numbers? You may be in the same boat as

I am.

> > > >

> > > > PH ~

> > > > It sounds like you hit gold ! How wonderful !

> > > > This is what you have needed. I am so happy

> > > > you had such a great experience there. Please

> > > > keep us posted on your progress. Sounds like

> > > > such a wonderful program. I have been getting

> > > > his newsletter for several years now,and just

> > > > have really enjoyed reading it. I am really happy

> > > > for you. Love and Hugs ~ Dede

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ************************************** See what's new at

> > > http://www.aol.com

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