Re: High fructose corn syrup

[Guest guest]

High fructose corn syrup is altered, chemically, to make it taste more sweet .. that chemical alteration also allows it to combine with thyroid hormone, in much the same way as calcium and iron... leaving the hormone unusable....

It works that same way for all thyroid hormones... those produced by the gland or those from synthetics, like Levothroid and Synthroid, and natural thyroid, like Armour and all of it's generics....

Soy does that to... binds with the hormone so that it can't be used by the body...

Folks with working glands end up producing more hormone, those will weak, damaged or diseased glands can't do that... and will end up being over worked and struggling to compensate for these hormone binders.

Topper ()

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:10:39 -0000 "Amy" writes:

How does this affect the dosage of Levothroid I take and how its metablized?Thanks in advance -Amy

[Guest guest]

So, shoud HFCS be avoided altogether by us hypos on replacement

hormone? Or is it just a matter of timing (i.e. not eating/drinking

HFCS within an hour or two of taking meds)? Boy, this board is great.

> High fructose corn syrup is altered, chemically, to make it taste

more

> sweet .. that chemical alteration also allows it to combine with

thyroid

> hormone, in much the same way as calcium and iron... leaving the

hormone

> unusable....

>

> It works that same way for all thyroid hormones... those produced

by the

> gland or those from synthetics, like Levothroid and Synthroid, and

> natural thyroid, like Armour and all of it's generics....

>

> Soy does that to... binds with the hormone so that it can't be used

by

> the body...

>

> Folks with working glands end up producing more hormone, those will

weak,

> damaged or diseased glands can't do that... and will end up being

over

> worked and struggling to compensate for these hormone binders.

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:10:39 -0000 " Amy " <sthncmftf@a...> writes:

>

> How does this affect the dosage of Levothroid I take and how its

> metablized?

>

> Thanks in advance -

>

> Amy

[Guest guest]

HFCS isn't good for us any time, to be honest.. but if you are going to do it... .like a can of soda or some special treat.. try to time it with your meds to minimize the negatives of it... That's much easier to do when you are taking naturals versus synthetics.. but with some patience, observation and honesty with yourself... you should be able to figure it out.... Granted, some of this may only affect those that have been undermedicated for longer periods of time... but to my way of thinking, even if some of this doesn't affect you right now... being aware of things and doing small life style changes now, may mean that you won't have to make major changes 10 or 15 years from now.

I fooled around with that with some of the vegies that I love and my liver ( I LOVE my liver) and soda.... I'm not as sensitive as I was in the past... so my self experimentation won't be as frequent as in the past... but by timing the intake of the 'baddies' I didn't get the sleepies... See, for me.... I know when my levels are low cause I'll get so darn sleepy... practically narcoleptic, if I'm alone. A can of soda, for example, would be great at first, a pick me up, or if I just sipped it during the day, no problem.. but guzzle it down like a 'normal' person... and in about an hour I'd be nodding off.... doing the 'bobble head'.

Same thing with liver (iron) and cabbage type stuff.... Some of the listed fruits get to me.... The canned fruit juice I get from a friend of mine still does it.. (there is something in that cheap stuff that just doesn't do me good....) anyway... if I dose as I start to feel sleepy, a regular dose, not adding extras to the day, I perk up and I'm 'normal' again.

It's just weird... when you start to watch your body, how it reacts, noticing patterns... once you get the pattern down, understand the cause and effect.. it's easier to figure out what you can do to do the things that you want.

If the only way I can do strawberry shortcake is to have a high protein mini meal, use the shortcake as the next mini meal and have it just before a thyroid dose and then have a high protein mini meal for my next meal..... and be able to enjoy that treat, not gain weight and not fall asleep in my chair or yawn myself silly afterwards... then I guess I can make that sacrifice...

For me it's been recognizing timing... getting to bed on time, waking on time, dosing meds and supps on time... doing the meals on time.... and watching combinations... Really, it's not all that hard if you stay on top of it.... like setting up the meals the day before.... that way everything is ready and at hand to stick to schedule... you dont' have to stop in the middle of something to fix food, or go off schedule by skipping a meal or grabbing the nearest junk.

Topper ()

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:49:53 -0000 "gpsoaps" writes:

So, shoud HFCS be avoided altogether by us hypos on replacement hormone? Or is it just a matter of timing (i.e. not eating/drinking HFCS within an hour or two of taking meds)? Boy, this board is great.

[Guest guest]

Hi, My understanding is, like any product of soy, HFCS should be

avoided, period.

Topper, and Fiesty , what do you guys think???

Gossimer

> > High fructose corn syrup is altered, chemically, to make it

taste

> more

> > sweet .. that chemical alteration also allows it to combine with

> thyroid

> > hormone, in much the same way as calcium and iron... leaving the

> hormone

> > unusable....

> >

> > It works that same way for all thyroid hormones... those

produced

> by the

> > gland or those from synthetics, like Levothroid and Synthroid,

and

> > natural thyroid, like Armour and all of it's generics....

> >

> > Soy does that to... binds with the hormone so that it can't be

used

> by

> > the body...

> >

> > Folks with working glands end up producing more hormone, those

will

> weak,

> > damaged or diseased glands can't do that... and will end up

being

> over

> > worked and struggling to compensate for these hormone binders.

> >

> > Topper ()

> >

> > On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 16:10:39 -0000 " Amy " <sthncmftf@a...> writes:

> >

> > How does this affect the dosage of Levothroid I take and how its

> > metablized?

> >

> > Thanks in advance -

> >

> > Amy

[Guest guest]

I try to stay away from it as much as possible. I watch jams and jellies, soda is a treat, watch pasta sauces, breading mixes, I'm just a big time label reader. I'll take regular sugar over to modified corn syrup.. did you know that is what HFCS is? They found a way to modify corn syrup, chemically, to produce a 'sweet'. It's cheaper to produce than sugar so it's what everyone is throwing in stuff as the sweetener.. but it's that modification to the molecule that messes up our hormones.

A person with a healthy gland and normal function just produces more hormone to compensate. The thyroid gland enlarges when it needs to produce more hormone, that's what a goiter is.. an enlargement of a gland that is doing everything it can to filter the blood to provide the chemicals that it needs to produce enough thyroid hormone for us to be healthy.

But as we continue to eat more artificial things, HFCS, soy proteins, etc.... our glands just can't keep up..

.... any way... sorry... getting off on a rant here..... I avoid as much of the bad as I can. I do as much of my baking and cooking from scratch as I can. I adjust serving size and combinations to help my body as best I can to not overburden it at any one time with things that are hard on it.....

It's all trial and error.. each of us has to find what we can do for our individual body and lifestyle to feel healthy again....

Did I mention? HFCS specifically messes up our hormones at the conversion stage/level. We can have all kinds of T4 and even be good converters.. but the HFCS messes up the conversion leaving you T3, T2, and T1 deficient.

Topper ()

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:38:24 -0000 "gossimerwingz" writes:

Hi, My understanding is, like any product of soy, HFCS should be avoided, period.Topper, and Fiesty , what do you guys think???Gossimer