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July 13, 2007

Wow!! Can't believe what you have been through!!! That is awful!!! I am wondering now if my kidney stone last year was from these implants too?? My back where my kidneys are has been hurting bad for about a week or two. i am scared i am gonna get another one. That was painful!! What has been your trouble with your kidneys?? Praying for you!!!! DGRAHAMA@... wrote: ~ No, I didnt, this was in 94. I was very ill, not expected to live very long, and was implanted again in 99. Two months later had to stop working because the illness just got so bad. I had a massive silicone rupture prior to those first salines, and they were put into my first scar caps that were holding all the silicone from the massive rupture, so I was very ill, had many surgeries having junk removed, lynmph nodes and tumors and things. All my breast tissue and some muscle was removed. I have just gone downhill since. Well, not me, this body ! In the last 2 years have had heart, lung, liver, kidney, failure, and I now have a pacemaker and defibrillator in my left chest with 3 wires going into my heart. Was sent home to die then too, but I just wont ! Not gonna ! Anyway, I am working towards

getting these salines out of me that I have had since 99. Dont ever believe a doc that says you are dieing........ I cant wait to pay a visit to all the doctors that said I would be gone by now ! prove them all wrong. Anyway, I would imagine that I am full of nasties making me sick. I was diagnosed with Lupus and all the whole list of things back in the 90s and it was thought that the lupus caused everything to stop functioning, but, I dont know, I think it is due to a raging systemic infection and adrenal fatigue due to that. So, anyway, I am doing some further testing for my renal ( kidney) specialist, if they arent too bad, then I can have the surgery from a kidney standpoint, if they are, I have to go back to my endo and treat first. Then I need to get cardiac clearance that my heart will be ok during a surgery, then off to Kolb I go !

I eat raw veges 50 percent of my day, and drink kefir and eat garlic. Then when explanted, I will detox. I have high platinum from the silicone, so I need to detox that to. Back in the 90's when I was going thru all those surgeries to remove all the tumors and things, I knew nothing of detoxing except for going to a facility that was expensive, and I had no money for that, and I was also a single mom of 2. I am glad that all these wonderful women are sharing their trials and tribulations with us, because they have found what works and what doesnt and we have much to choose from, tons of love and support, and a bunch of friends all over the world ! Just how wonderful is that? Blessings ~ Dede Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com.

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, You are so pretty!! Thanks for adding the photo! I agree, I think the capsule contains much of the sillicone from the shell. Dr. Huang sent my capsules in for testing and it showed that there was inflammation. My body was attacking the implants, chewing away at that silicone shell. I just don't see the difference in why a doctor would remove the capsules on silicone implants and leave them on saline? Because the shell is what is touching the capsules and it has silicone in it. I am sure your head is spinning, it is making my head spin. I pray you find your answers and can get and explant soon. Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71@...> wrote: Hello, Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to the lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be worth it. He says it's like removing a wet tissue from a mirror. There will always be microscopic remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things. All my answers and questions are turning and turning in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say

however, that He personally has never taken out implants that had mold and fungus on them. He said he has never seen this on implants ever. I wonder what is causing the mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also says that it's not the capsule that causes the problems but the silicone in the shell. I would imagine though that there are "microscopic remains of silicone" in the capsules too. Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or it's that the damage has already been done from having the implants. I guess it is worse on some than others. I believe though through detox and proper eating and of course GOD that there is hope!!! Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much better although not 100%. But she has her energy back and she is not hurting like before. She also went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She was well pleased. Just

thought you all might want to know!!! Blessings! p.s. I posted some pics of myself on the group page photo section if anyone wants to put a face to a name!! lolLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board as well is trying to save up money to get the remaining capsule out of her body that her first explant doctor left behind. She is still very sick, even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr. Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove the partial capsule which was left behind. I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He leads you down the right path. Your

surgery is going to be expensive and I would hate for you to have another surgery down the road to remove the capsule. Hugs, Lynnglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401 > wrote: ,I wish Dr. Melmed will show us his proof for saying the capsules will dissolve. Did you ask him? I am sure he can get it all if it is not too risky. I'd just want to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all if he can. In that case he may be a very good choice for you. I would just want to know that my doctor is not basing any of his actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions, such as capsules dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best to get out all of the scar tissue, based on several studies and papers written by medical

professionals, and the experiences of women who did not have capsules removed and did not heal. You can see these articles for yourself in our files section and links section on explant. Be sure to read them and review them carefully.You'll just have to go with your own instincts! Dr. Melmed has a great bedside manner from what I have heard.By the way, how is Kacey doing? The last I heard she was still dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.Patty> >I have been talking to Dr. Melmed, Dr. Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.> >I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so very hard to> >decide which would be best for me. It would be easiest to see Dr.> >Melmed because I have family in texas that I could stay with and that> >would save me on hotel expenses.

But Dr. Kolb has contacted me by> >email and phone which has impressed me very much. Dr. Huang showed me> >great compassion in her email and hopes that i get better so I don't> >have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta pray about it.> >Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my insurance and they> >said that if a Dr. sends a letter stating that it is my implants> >making me sick and that they can prove they need to come out,> >(leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it prior to the> >surgery. Don't know if there is really any hard proof from what I> >have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter from a reputible> >doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that as well. I have> >been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she had to send> >multiple letters but she finally got her insurance to pay. So

let me> >know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i talked to said> >that they remove the capsules but there are times that they have to> >leave "some" especially if it is adhered to your lungs, ribs, or> >chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't always achievable but> >getting out the majority of the implant and capsule still has to be> >good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding to my messages.> >You all have been very helpful.> >> > Cutshall> >> >> >> >Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. > ><http://ca.answers./>Go to Answers.> >> >> >> >No need to miss a message. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get > >email on-the-go> >with for Mobile. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get started.> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with for Mobile. Get started.> Get the free toolbar and rest assured

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Lynn, Thanks for the compliment, that is sweet!! What have you done for the inflammation that they found/? Are you supplementing?? Detoxing?? Did you have the fat transfer?? How long ago did you have your explant?? Did the fat remain in your breast and stay even on both sides?? I know, i am asking a lot of questions. I like the idea of the fat transfer. Sounds good. Not sure I need it anymore since I am about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than when I got the implants. hopefully i will lose that after explant. I've heard that many have. michelleLynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: , You are so pretty!! Thanks for adding the photo! I agree, I think the capsule contains much of the sillicone from the shell. Dr. Huang sent my capsules in for testing and it showed that there was inflammation. My body was attacking the implants, chewing away at that silicone shell. I just don't see the difference in why a doctor would remove the capsules on silicone implants and leave them on saline? Because the shell is what is touching the capsules and it has silicone in it. I am sure your head is spinning, it is making my head spin. I pray you find your answers and can get and

explant soon. Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71 > wrote: Hello, Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to the lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be worth it. He says it's like removing a wet tissue from a mirror. There will always be microscopic remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things. All my answers and questions are turning and turning in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say however, that He personally has never taken out implants that had mold and fungus on them.

He said he has never seen this on implants ever. I wonder what is causing the mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also says that it's not the capsule that causes the problems but the silicone in the shell. I would imagine though that there are "microscopic remains of silicone" in the capsules too. Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or it's that the damage has already been done from having the implants. I guess it is worse on some than others. I believe though through detox and proper eating and of course GOD that there is hope!!! Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much better although not 100%. But she has her energy back and she is not hurting like before. She also went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She was well pleased. Just thought you all might want to know!!! Blessings! p.s. I posted some pics of myself on the group page photo section if anyone wants to put a face to a name!! lolLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board as well is trying to save up money to get the remaining capsule out of her body that her first explant doctor left behind. She is still very sick, even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr. Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove the partial capsule which was left behind. I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He leads you down the right path. Your surgery is going to be expensive and I would hate for you to have another surgery down the

road to remove the capsule. Hugs, Lynnglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401 > wrote: ,I wish Dr. Melmed will show us his proof for saying the capsules will dissolve. Did you ask him? I am sure he can get it all if it is not too risky. I'd just want to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all if he can. In that case he may be a very good choice for you. I would just want to know that my doctor is not basing any of his actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions, such as capsules dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best to get out all of the scar tissue, based on several studies and papers written by medical professionals, and the experiences of women who did not have capsules removed and did not heal.

You can see these articles for yourself in our files section and links section on explant. Be sure to read them and review them carefully.You'll just have to go with your own instincts! Dr. Melmed has a great bedside manner from what I have heard.By the way, how is Kacey doing? The last I heard she was still dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.Patty> >I have been talking to Dr. Melmed, Dr. Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.> >I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so very hard to> >decide which would be best for me. It would be easiest to see Dr.> >Melmed because I have family in texas that I could stay with and that> >would save me on hotel expenses. But Dr. Kolb has contacted me by> >email and phone which has impressed me very much. Dr. Huang showed

me> >great compassion in her email and hopes that i get better so I don't> >have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta pray about it.> >Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my insurance and they> >said that if a Dr. sends a letter stating that it is my implants> >making me sick and that they can prove they need to come out,> >(leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it prior to the> >surgery. Don't know if there is really any hard proof from what I> >have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter from a reputible> >doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that as well. I have> >been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she had to send> >multiple letters but she finally got her insurance to pay. So let me> >know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i talked to said> >that they remove

the capsules but there are times that they have to> >leave "some" especially if it is adhered to your lungs, ribs, or> >chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't always achievable but> >getting out the majority of the implant and capsule still has to be> >good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding to my messages.> >You all have been very helpful.> >> > Cutshall> >> >> >> >Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. > ><http://ca.answers./>Go to Answers.> >> >> >> >No need to miss a message. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get >

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Lynn,Yeah the appendix thing is very strange. I need to look into it further. I had a bit of a fever today, but am suffering a sore throat, so don't think it is related. I have no pain around the appendix. Acute appendicitis is really sharp, that's why they suggested I might have a chronic infection?? I need to see my Dr and a surgeon and a naturopath. Right now it is clearly not life threatening, so I don't want to just into surgery.That story about your husband is scary. What should I watch for??Yeah my incision place is so weird. All the surgeons I have consulted have never seen it there. Maybe the strange entry site is why I have never had problems with contracture? Who knows! Just know I want them out! Katy:)Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Katy, Wow, that is strange about the enlarged appendix. You would think you'd have other symptoms, like a fever. You have been having pains? If yes, you don't want it to become infected. My friends husband had pain, then got sick - thought it was the flu. He went 3 days before going to the doctor. He was so sick, he had gangreen (sp) in his body. He was in the hospital for like 3 weeks and had to recover for months. The side of your breasts? I have

never heard of that type of incision? Mine were put in through the belly button. The scars under my breasts for the explant are hidden by my breasts. I scar horribly and would't want it visible on my nipples. You take care of yourself!! I hope you appendix is okay. Hugs, Lynn katy mclean <thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: Lynn,I dislike where I was originally implanted because myscars (on the sides of my breasts, under my arm) showin alot of shirts and bathing suits. I was expectingin through the armpit but I guess for

some reason thesurgeon didn't do that....I know they probably have tocome out a different way, so I appreciate hearing yourfeedback.Today I had a 2 hour long abdominal and pelvicultrasound ordered for my IBS. They found more lymphnodes in my abdomin and something I really wasn'texpecting... Apparently my appendix is huge. 3different Dr's came in to look at it. They said theywere surprised I wasn't very sick. I thought maybe Ijust natuarally had a large appendix, but now theywant to take it out. They said it may be "chronicallyinfected". I asked if it could be related to mydigestive stuff or the lymph nodes but it seems theydon't know. I don't want surgery that is unnecessary.I will get another opinion on it and see anaturopathic dr. So weird... I guess that may accountfor the pain I have?? Wonder how all of the piecesconnect together?Katy:)--- Lynn <spinkscl > wrote:> Dr. Huang removed my implants through incisions> under my breasts. I am happy she did not go through> my areola. My scars are getting lighter each day> and they are in places which I can not see. > > I will ask Dr. Huang about the capsules at my next> appointment and let you all know.> > Hugs, Lynn> > freebindi <bindiaaahawk> wrote:> Hmm, that's very interesting that Huang> says the same thing as Melmed about the difficulty> of removing all of the capsules. I was under the> impression from previous posts that Huang ALWAYS> removes ALL the capsules.> > From the research I have read, some women who have> residual capsules take longer to resolve symptoms,> but I haven't read anything about women who have> small scraps of residual capsules. My guess is that> the body might still think it has foreign invaders> (implants) if the whole capsules are left behind,> taking longer to get the message, but tiny scraps of> capsule don't have the same effect.> > If I am not mistaken, all the surgeons who remove> capsules make incisions around the areola, but some,> like Feng, also add a vertical incision.> > Bindi> > > > Get news delivered with the All new . Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail./try_beta?.intl=ca

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, Today is exactly 3 months since my explant with Dr. Huang. Yes, I had the fat transfers. I am pretty skinny though, so she had a hard time finding enough fat to transfer. There was another lady who used to post here named , she also saw Dr. Huang and had fat transfers - much more than I had transferred. I know she was very very pleased with her results but I don't know how much of her fat survived? I noticed my breasts were much bigger right after explant then they are now but I am sure this has to do with swelling from surgery as well as the fat transfer. I do think I would have looked much worse without the fat transfer. I am now an A cup (I was a C with implants and a B before

implants). I really love my results. My breasts are so soft and they are nicely shaped. My only complaint is inverted nipples. Dr. Huang said she could fix this down the road if I wanted it fixed. Some of my explant photos are on shutterfly. The shutterfly link can be found on the Saline Support Home page at the bottom. The password is "implants." I have a f/u with Dr. Huang on the 30th of August. I plan to ask her if she was able to get all of my capsule. I am also going to ask for copies of the surgical reports. I do trust her but all of this talk of leftover capsule is sort of freaking me out. I am at such a vulnerable place because I want to get well. Somebody could tell me to drink pee and I just might if I knew I'd feel better (maybe not that extreme - but I am sure you know what I

mean. Oh, I did not need a lift. My surgery was about $6,600 and that included fat transfers. You are right, she'll lipo all the fat from the areas you hate right now. So it is wonderful to come out of surgery with love handles gone, tummy gone, inner thigh fat gone.... Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71@...> wrote:

Lynn, Thanks for the compliment, that is sweet!! What have you done for the inflammation that they found/? Are you supplementing?? Detoxing?? Did you have the fat transfer?? How long ago did you have your explant?? Did the fat remain in your breast and stay even on both sides?? I know, i am asking a lot of questions. I like the idea of the fat transfer. Sounds good. Not sure I need it anymore since I am about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than when I got the implants. hopefully i will lose that after explant. I've heard that many have. michelleLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , You are so pretty!! Thanks for adding

the photo! I agree, I think the capsule contains much of the sillicone from the shell. Dr. Huang sent my capsules in for testing and it showed that there was inflammation. My body was attacking the implants, chewing away at that silicone shell. I just don't see the difference in why a doctor would remove the capsules on silicone implants and leave them on saline? Because the shell is what is touching the capsules and it has silicone in it. I am sure your head is spinning, it is making my head spin. I pray you find your answers and can get and explant soon. Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71 > wrote: Hello, Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to the lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be worth it. He says it's like removing a wet tissue from a mirror. There will always be microscopic remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things. All my answers and questions are turning and turning in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say however, that He personally has never taken out implants that had mold and fungus on them. He said he has never seen this on implants ever. I wonder what is causing the mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also says that it's not the capsule that causes the problems but the silicone in the shell. I would imagine though that there are "microscopic remains of silicone" in the capsules

too. Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or it's that the damage has already been done from having the implants. I guess it is worse on some than others. I believe though through detox and proper eating and of course GOD that there is hope!!! Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much better although not 100%. But she has her energy back and she is not hurting like before. She also went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She was well pleased. Just thought you all might want to know!!! Blessings! p.s. I posted some pics of myself on the group page photo section if anyone wants to put a face to a name!! lolLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board as well is trying to save up money to get the remaining capsule out of her body that her first explant doctor left behind. She is still very sick, even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr. Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove the partial capsule which was left behind. I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He leads you down the right path. Your surgery is going to be expensive and I would hate for you to have another surgery down the road to remove the capsule. Hugs, Lynnglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401 > wrote: ,I wish Dr.

Melmed will show us his proof for saying the capsules will dissolve. Did you ask him? I am sure he can get it all if it is not too risky. I'd just want to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all if he can. In that case he may be a very good choice for you. I would just want to know that my doctor is not basing any of his actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions, such as capsules dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best to get out all of the scar tissue, based on several studies and papers written by medical professionals, and the experiences of women who did not have capsules removed and did not heal. You can see these articles for yourself in our files section and links section on explant. Be sure to read them and review them carefully.You'll just have to go with your own instincts! Dr. Melmed has a great bedside manner from what I have heard.By the way, how is Kacey doing?

The last I heard she was still dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.Patty> >I have been talking to Dr. Melmed, Dr. Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.> >I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so very hard to> >decide which would be best for me. It would be easiest to see Dr.> >Melmed because I have family in texas that I could stay with and that> >would save me on hotel expenses. But Dr. Kolb has contacted me by> >email and phone which has impressed me very much. Dr. Huang showed me> >great compassion in her email and hopes that i get better so I don't> >have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta pray about it.> >Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my insurance and they> >said that if a Dr. sends a

letter stating that it is my implants> >making me sick and that they can prove they need to come out,> >(leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it prior to the> >surgery. Don't know if there is really any hard proof from what I> >have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter from a reputible> >doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that as well. I have> >been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she had to send> >multiple letters but she finally got her insurance to pay. So let me> >know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i talked to said> >that they remove the capsules but there are times that they have to> >leave "some" especially if it is adhered to your lungs, ribs, or> >chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't always achievable but> >getting out the majority of the implant and capsule still

has to be> >good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding to my messages.> >You all have been very helpful.> >> > Cutshall> >> >> >> >Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. > ><http://ca.answers./>Go to Answers.> >> >> >> >No need to miss a message. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get > >email on-the-go> >with for Mobile. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get started.> >>

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Katy, I am glad to here it isn't anything serious right now! My friends hubby had a high fever, above 100 and was vomiting. He couldn't eat anything, no appetite. He thought he had food poisoning and when he couldn't break the fever or eat anything for 3 days he went to the doctor. He had pain in is lower right quadrant of his abdomen but thought it was muscle pain from vomiting so much. I think you'll now right away. Gosh I wish I could win the lotto!! I would pay for you to come to Denver and get the implants out!! Lynnkaty mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote: Lynn,Yeah the appendix thing is very strange. I need to look into it further. I had a bit of a fever today, but am suffering a sore throat, so don't think it is related. I have no pain around the appendix. Acute appendicitis is really sharp, that's why they suggested I might have a chronic infection?? I need to see my Dr and a surgeon and a naturopath. Right now it is clearly not life threatening, so I don't want to just into surgery.That story about your husband is scary. What should I watch for??Yeah my incision place is so weird. All the surgeons I have consulted have never seen it there. Maybe the strange entry site is why I have never had problems with contracture? Who knows! Just know I want them out! Katy:)Lynn

<spinkscl > wrote: Katy, Wow, that is strange about the enlarged appendix. You would think you'd have other symptoms, like a fever. You have been having pains? If yes, you don't want it to become infected. My friends husband had pain, then got sick - thought it was the flu. He went 3 days before going to the doctor. He was so sick, he had gangreen (sp) in his body. He was in the hospital for like 3 weeks and had to recover for months. The side of your breasts? I have never heard of that type of incision? Mine were put in through the belly button. The scars under my

breasts for the explant are hidden by my breasts. I scar horribly and would't want it visible on my nipples. You take care of yourself!! I hope you appendix is okay. Hugs, Lynn katy mclean <thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: Lynn,I dislike where I was originally implanted because myscars (on the sides of my breasts, under my arm) showin alot of shirts and bathing suits. I was expectingin through the armpit but I guess for some reason thesurgeon didn't do that....I know they probably have tocome out a different way, so I appreciate hearing

yourfeedback.Today I had a 2 hour long abdominal and pelvicultrasound ordered for my IBS. They found more lymphnodes in my abdomin and something I really wasn'texpecting... Apparently my appendix is huge. 3different Dr's came in to look at it. They said theywere surprised I wasn't very sick. I thought maybe Ijust natuarally had a large appendix, but now theywant to take it out. They said it may be "chronicallyinfected". I asked if it could be related to mydigestive stuff or the lymph nodes but it seems theydon't know. I don't want surgery that is unnecessary.I will get another opinion on it and see anaturopathic dr. So weird... I guess that may accountfor the pain I have?? Wonder how all of the piecesconnect together?Katy:)--- Lynn <spinkscl > wrote:> Dr. Huang removed my implants through incisions> under my

breasts. I am happy she did not go through> my areola. My scars are getting lighter each day> and they are in places which I can not see. > > I will ask Dr. Huang about the capsules at my next> appointment and let you all know.> > Hugs, Lynn> > freebindi <bindiaaahawk> wrote:> Hmm, that's very interesting that Huang> says the same thing as Melmed about the difficulty> of removing all of the capsules. I was under the> impression from previous posts that Huang ALWAYS> removes ALL the capsules.> > From the research I have read, some women who have> residual capsules take longer to resolve symptoms,> but I haven't read anything about women who have> small scraps of residual capsules. My guess is that> the body might still think it has foreign invaders> (implants) if the whole

capsules are left behind,> taking longer to get the message, but tiny scraps of> capsule don't have the same effect.> > If I am not mistaken, all the surgeons who remove> capsules make incisions around the areola, but some,> like Feng, also add a vertical incision.> > Bindi> > > > Get news delivered with the All new . Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail./try_beta?.intl=ca All new - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.

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Yes, we need women who speak out. I am truly thankful for Command

Tust and Sybil. They were the first and that is how I got to the FDA in

1991. Boy was I green then.

We were thought of as fanatics. Some were threatened. It was way

different than now with the internet. We searched libraries for days at a

time, copying articles and trying to find any doctor who we could trust.

I am not sure that has changed a lot.

But, we had stick-to-it-ness, and we kept plugging away. Some did not

think much of this.

But, as many have, we also pass the torch to the new women to get the

truth out. And you were there and took the torch. And others will

follow, thank God. Because we cannot do it all.

So, pat yourself on the back as well, because you have done so much. And

many others have also.

Lynda

> Yes, we are all better women for getting through this adversity, I truly

> believe that. It's been a challenge, but we've persevered!

>

> I thank God for women like you and and Ilena! Brave souls! You guys paved

> the way for us in the early years, laying a foundation that has remained

> solid to this day. We will never give up the fight, and look how many

> women we've got fighting this fight with us now!

>

> Someday we will ensure that the truth is found as to why we are sick.

> But can you imagine the world for women with implants if you had stayed

> silent, or did not do the work that you did so many years ago? I

> shudder. I would have still been sick, not knowing why.

>

> Lynda, thank YOU!!

> Patty

>

> Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote:

> Wow, Patty. I totally agree with your answer.

>

> We have all suffered, and you know that God led

> you to this info. I was just a way to get it to you.

>

> And look at what you have done for yourself and

> others once you were educated. Wow.

>

> I think we are better people because of the adversity we faced.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 08:49 AM 7/13/2007, you wrote:

>

>>Absolutely I would have done that instead of

>>implants years ago if I could have. I would

>>definitely have preferred to use my own tissue

>>instead, and I even asked my plastic surgeon at

>>the time if there wasn't anything else

>>available--even cloning tissue--and he said no.

>>

>>So, I went ahead. I asked tons of questions on

>>safety. Unfortunately, at that time my husband

>>and I were living paycheck to paycheck ( I saved

>>up my waitressing tips for a year to get

>>implants) and we were lucky to even get a

>>computer when we did, which was right around

>>that time as well. Lynda, you were one of the

>>very first women I wrote to after I got sick...I

>>remember your article called " The Safe Saline

>>Implant? " I think I even still have that first

>>copy I printed off on my dot-matrix printer way back--10 years ago!

>>

>>Oh Lynda, gosh what we've been through. You've suffered way more than I

>> have.

>>

>>As for doing it in the future if it became

>>available, I tend to say NO. I have become

>>comfortable with my body now. I want to age

>>gracefully. I accept that this life as God made

>>it is the way it was intended to be lived,

>>wrinkles, saggy breasts and all. I trust in His

>>divine providence and grace. I've got better

>>uses for my money, and I think I'd rather make

>>sure my kids have an inheritance than to

>>squander it foolishly on a body that is going to

>>go to the grave and turn to dust anyway.

>>

>>But, never say never! Who knows....If I ever

>>ended up with so much money that I wouldn't know

>>what to do with it, and life was a bowl of

>>cherries, all our needs were met, all my kids

>>needs were met, and my modest boobs were hanging

>>again (with my lift they don't hang at all,

>>they're perky), I just might give it a second thought.

>>

>>LOL, Lynda, thanks for asking. That was fun to think about!

>>Patty

>>

>>Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote:

>>How about you? Would you consider it? Would you

>>have considered it instead of implants years ago if it were available?

>>

>>Lynda

>>

>>At 06:25 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote:

>>

>> >Me too!

>> >

>> >Lynda Roth <<mailto:coss%40privatei.com>coss@...> wrote:

>> >Well, now, I would have to think about that. If

>> >I were in my 30's, I think the answer would be

>> >yes. I am 66, so it is a different thought

>> >process. I would not do it until it had been

>> >done for a couple of years in the U.S. and I

>> >would check on the changes it might make in

>> >hormones. If it affected hormones, I would have to say no.

>> >

>> >Nobody likes to be missing a breast like I am,

>> >but I am pretty used to the prosthesis. It is

>> >heavy and uncomfortable at times, still. But, I

>> >am not much for surgery these days.

>> >

>> >I am really glad that an alternative to implants

>> >may be just around the corner. I would love to

>> >see every one of them destroyed.

>> >

>> >Lynda

>> >

>> >At 05:54 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote:

>> >

>> > >Lynda,

>> > >Would you undergo such a procedure if you had the chance?

>> > >Patty

>> > >

>> > >Lynda Roth

>> <<mailto:coss%40privatei.com><mailto:coss%40privatei.com>coss@...>

>> wrote:

>> > >,

>> > >

>> > >The science of fat transfers continues to improve.

>> > >

>> > >Now in Europe they are using stem cells to help

>> > >fat transfers and help women to have larger

>> > >breasts without implants. In a few years, this

>> > >procedure may be here. It is exciting.

>> > >

>> > >Lynda

>> > >

>> > >At 12:25 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote:

>> > >

>> > > >Dr. Kolb told me today that her pricing is $9000

>> > > >to $10,000 with the lift. I think I would rather

>> > > >have the fat transfers then cuz it's the same

>> > > >price. So far, Dr. Melmed is the most

>> > > >affordable. But I like the idea of the fat

>> > > >transfers. I don't understand though, if they

>> > > >can transfer fat to our breasts then why haven't

>> > > >they done this instead of implants in the first place??? I don't

>> get it.

>> > > >

>> > > >Lynda Roth

>> >

>>

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>>

>> > wrote:

>> > > >,

>> > > >

>> > > >Dr. Huang has always said that many women receive

>> > > >unnecessary lifts. I do believe she does some

>> > > >internal work to lift the breasts so a visible lift can be avoided.

>> > > >

>> > > >Lynda

>> > > >

>> > > >At 01:56 AM 7/12/2007, you wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > >Hi ,

>> > > > >

>> > > > >I really appreciate you sharing your findings with me.

>> > > > >I really want to get something set up as a goal to

>> > > > >work towards. I wish I could get something covered by

>> > > > >insurance, but because I live in Canada I can't and

>> > > > >none of the 3 surgeons I consulted with here are

>> > > > >willing to remove my capsules. That scares me a bit,

>> > > > >but my instincts tell me I should get them out with

>> > > > >the implants. Plus there is so much information from

>> > > > >the women here about it. I don't want to take

>> > > > >chances...

>> > > > >

>> > > > >I have been worried about getting a lift or transfer

>> > > > >because I don't have any children yet and am concerned

>> > > > >that it would cause problems with breastfeeding in the

>> > > > >future. Dr Melmed, Feng and Huang have all assured me

>> > > > >that this shouldn't be a problem. I am not sure about

>> > > > >how it works with the transfers though. I sent photos

>> > > > >to Dr Huang and Melmed and he thinks I could use a

>> > > > >lift although she doesn't... I just keep gathering

>> > > > >information while I save up. I have been working

>> > > > >towards my explant for a year now. It is taking much

>> > > > >longer than I expected but hopefully I will be really

>> > > > >prepared when the time comes.

>> > > > >

>> > > > >Today Dr. melmed told me in an email that almost

>> > > > >everyone can look good after explant. He said alot of

>> > > > >PS tell you that you will be deformed or have a 'bad

>> > > > >cosmetic result' and its not true. That was nice to

>> > > > >hear for a change!!

>> > > > >

>> > > > >Keep me posted on your progress and I will share any

>> > > > >information too.

>> > > > >

>> > > > >Katy:)

>> > > > >--- Cutshall

>> > > > ><<mailto:michellecutshall71%40><mailto

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

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>> > > > >wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > > Katy,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Is Dr. Kolb expensive?? I heard today that she was

>> > > > > > really, really expensive. But Dr. Feng is expensive

>> > > > > > too. That's who i wanted to go to but she quoted me

>> > > > > > $13,200 for explant/lift. I have been talking mostly

>> > > > > > to Dr. Melmed. He got on the phone and talked to me

>> > > > > > today explaining the whole procedure, the myths,

>> > > > > > internet rumors, capsules, lifts and such. He said

>> > > > > > you can't 100% get rid of all the capsules. He said

>> > > > > > anyone who says they can are lieing. And Dr. Huang

>> > > > > > said the same thing. They both said if it has

>> > > > > > adhered to your ribs or lungs or chest wall then

>> > > > > > there will be some left. However, he said that if

>> > > > > > you have saline implants that the capsule will

>> > > > > > dissipate within a year. Silicone will not. They

>> > > > > > have to make a choice to either cause you severe

>> > > > > > bleeding, possible puncture of the lungs or chest

>> > > > > > wall or to leave some. He said they get what is

>> > > > > > humanly possible. Dr. Melmed also says that most

>> > > > > > women who have implants behind the muscle don't need

>> > > > > > a lift cuz the muscle will pull

>> > > > > > the breast tissue back up, but sometimes it is

>> > > > > > necessary if you had sagging breasts before

>> > > > > > implants. So that's good news. Oh, he also doesn't

>> > > > > > charge for the lift and he can take out the implant

>> > > > > > and do the lift through the areola!!! No nasty T

>> > > > > > scar!!! That's a plus!! Dr. Kolb says she can do

>> > > > > > that too. I like Dr. Huang also cuz she does the

>> > > > > > fat transfers. She quoted me for explant/fat

>> > > > > > transfer around $9000. That's a little higher than

>> > > > > > i wanted. Not sure if she does the areola incision,

>> > > > > > i will have to ask.I hope you get yours out soon

>> > > > > > too. If my insurance will cover it then i want mine

>> > > > > > out ASAP!!!! if not, i will have to wait till next

>> > > > > > march. That sucks when you know what's wrong but you

>> > > > > > can't fix it!!

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > God Bless!!!

>> > > > > > Cutshall

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > katy mclean

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

>> >

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>> >

>> > >

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > > > > Hi ,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > I am in the same boat as you! I have been talking to

>> > > > > > different Dr's about explant and still don't know

>> > > > > > who to see. I was trying really really hard to find

>> > > > > > someone who would do a casulectomy for me in Canada

>> > > > > > (where I live) but have been unable. I thought for a

>> > > > > > while about getting the implants out and leaving the

>> > > > > > capsules, but decided against it. So now I am saving

>> > > > > > the money up, because I have bad credit and can't

>> > > > > > borrow it. I have been in contact with Dr Feng, Dr

>> > > > > > Huang, Dr Melmed so far. I want to talk to Dr Kolb

>> > > > > > too, eventhough it would be very difficult for me to

>> > > > > > afford her at this time. She really understands the

>> > > > > > lymph node connection which is a really bad problem

>> > > > > > for me.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > So did all of the surgeons you spoke to say that

>> > > > > > sometimes its not possible to get all the capsule?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Are you going for a lift as well? Dr Huang does fat

>> > > > > > transfers as well... I am considering this as an

>> > > > > > alternative to a lift.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Katy:)

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > michellecutshall71

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > >

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>> > > > > > Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.

>> > > > > > I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so

>> > > > > > very hard to

>> > > > > > decide which would be best for me. It would be

>> > > > > > easiest to see Dr.

>> > > > > > Melmed because I have family in texas that I could

>> > > > > > stay with and that

>> > > > > > would save me on hotel expenses. But Dr. Kolb has

>> > > > > > contacted me by

>> > > > > > email and phone which has impressed me very much.

>> > > > > > Dr. Huang showed me

>> > > > > > great compassion in her email and hopes that i get

>> > > > > > better so I don't

>> > > > > > have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta

>> > > > > > pray about it.

>> > > > > > Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my

>> > > > > > insurance and they

>> > > > > > said that if a Dr. sends a letter stating that it is

>> > > > > > my implants

>> > > > > > making me sick and that they can prove they need to

>> > > > > > come out,

>> > > > > > (leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it

>> > > > > > prior to the

>> > > > > > surgery. Don't know if there is really any hard

>> > > > > > proof from what I

>> > > > > > have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter

>> > > > > > from a reputible

>> > > > > > doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that

>> > > > > > as well. I have

>> > > > > > been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she

>> > > > > > had to send

>> > > > > > multiple letters but she finally got her insurance

>> > > > > > to pay. So let me

>> > > > > > know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i

>> > > > > > talked to said

>> > > > > > that they remove the capsules but there are times

>> > > > > > that they have to

>> > > > > > leave " some " especially if it is adhered to your

>> > > > > > lungs, ribs, or

>> > > > > > chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't

>> > > > > > always achievable but

>> > > > > > getting out the majority of the implant and capsule

>> > > > > > still has to be

>> > > > > > good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding

>> > > > > > to my messages.

>> > > > > > You all have been very helpful.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Cutshall

>> > > > > >

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Oh, and my breasts are very symetrical. They are both the same size. I am not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but I hear the breasts fluff and get bigger within the first year after explant. I have noticed this already. I do think they are bigger each month... Again, I am SOOO happy to have my natural breasts back. I do not think anybody at work have noticed the difference either - I always wear a good padded bra, so I have sporting natural cleavage now! Lynn Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: , Today is exactly 3 months since my explant with Dr. Huang. Yes, I had the fat transfers. I am pretty skinny though, so she had a hard time finding enough fat to transfer. There was another lady who used to post here named , she also saw Dr. Huang and had fat transfers - much more than I had transferred. I know she was very very pleased with her results but I don't know how much of her fat survived? I noticed my breasts were much bigger right after explant then they are now but I am sure this has to do with swelling from surgery as well as the fat transfer. I do think I would have looked much worse without

the fat transfer. I am now an A cup (I was a C with implants and a B before implants). I really love my results. My breasts are so soft and they are nicely shaped. My only complaint is inverted nipples. Dr. Huang said she could fix this down the road if I wanted it fixed. Some of my explant photos are on shutterfly. The shutterfly link can be found on the Saline Support Home page at the bottom. The password is "implants." I have a f/u with Dr. Huang on the 30th of August. I plan to ask her if she was able to get all of my capsule. I am also going to ask for copies of the surgical reports. I do trust her but all of this talk of leftover capsule is sort of freaking me out. I am at such a vulnerable place because I want to get well. Somebody could tell me to drink pee and I just might if I knew

I'd feel better (maybe not that extreme - but I am sure you know what I mean. Oh, I did not need a lift. My surgery was about $6,600 and that included fat transfers. You are right, she'll lipo all the fat from the areas you hate right now. So it is wonderful to come out of surgery with love handles gone, tummy gone, inner thigh fat gone.... Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71 > wrote: Lynn, Thanks for the compliment, that is sweet!! What have you done for the inflammation that they found/? Are you supplementing?? Detoxing??

Did you have the fat transfer?? How long ago did you have your explant?? Did the fat remain in your breast and stay even on both sides?? I know, i am asking a lot of questions. I like the idea of the fat transfer. Sounds good. Not sure I need it anymore since I am about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than when I got the implants. hopefully i will lose that after explant. I've heard that many have. michelleLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , You are so pretty!! Thanks for adding the photo! I agree, I think the capsule contains much of the sillicone from the shell. Dr. Huang sent my capsules in for testing and it showed that there was inflammation. My body

was attacking the implants, chewing away at that silicone shell. I just don't see the difference in why a doctor would remove the capsules on silicone implants and leave them on saline? Because the shell is what is touching the capsules and it has silicone in it. I am sure your head is spinning, it is making my head spin. I pray you find your answers and can get and explant soon. Hugs, Lynn Cutshall <michellecutshall71 > wrote: Hello, Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to the lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be worth it. He says it's like

removing a wet tissue from a mirror. There will always be microscopic remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things. All my answers and questions are turning and turning in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say however, that He personally has never taken out implants that had mold and fungus on them. He said he has never seen this on implants ever. I wonder what is causing the mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also says that it's not the capsule that causes the problems but the silicone in the shell. I would imagine though that there are "microscopic remains of silicone" in the capsules too. Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or it's that the damage has already been done from having the implants. I guess it is worse on some than others. I believe though through detox and proper eating and of course

GOD that there is hope!!! Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much better although not 100%. But she has her energy back and she is not hurting like before. She also went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She was well pleased. Just thought you all might want to know!!! Blessings! p.s. I posted some pics of myself on the group page photo section if anyone wants to put a face to a name!! lolLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board as well is trying to save up money to get the remaining capsule out of her body

that her first explant doctor left behind. She is still very sick, even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr. Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove the partial capsule which was left behind. I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He leads you down the right path. Your surgery is going to be expensive and I would hate for you to have another surgery down the road to remove the capsule. Hugs, Lynnglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401 > wrote: ,I wish Dr. Melmed will show us his proof for saying the capsules will dissolve. Did you ask him? I am sure he can get it all if it is not too risky. I'd just want to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all if he can. In

that case he may be a very good choice for you. I would just want to know that my doctor is not basing any of his actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions, such as capsules dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best to get out all of the scar tissue, based on several studies and papers written by medical professionals, and the experiences of women who did not have capsules removed and did not heal. You can see these articles for yourself in our files section and links section on explant. Be sure to read them and review them carefully.You'll just have to go with your own instincts! Dr. Melmed has a great bedside manner from what I have heard.By the way, how is Kacey doing? The last I heard she was still dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.Patty> >I have

been talking to Dr. Melmed, Dr. Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.> >I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so very hard to> >decide which would be best for me. It would be easiest to see Dr.> >Melmed because I have family in texas that I could stay with and that> >would save me on hotel expenses. But Dr. Kolb has contacted me by> >email and phone which has impressed me very much. Dr. Huang showed me> >great compassion in her email and hopes that i get better so I don't> >have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta pray about it.> >Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my insurance and they> >said that if a Dr. sends a letter stating that it is my implants> >making me sick and that they can prove they need to come out,> >(leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it prior to the> >surgery. Don't know if there is

really any hard proof from what I> >have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter from a reputible> >doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that as well. I have> >been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she had to send> >multiple letters but she finally got her insurance to pay. So let me> >know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i talked to said> >that they remove the capsules but there are times that they have to> >leave "some" especially if it is adhered to your lungs, ribs, or> >chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't always achievable but> >getting out the majority of the implant and capsule still has to be> >good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding to my messages.> >You all have been very helpful.> >> > Cutshall> >> >> >>

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dede,You are my mentor for being able to laugh through all kinds of unpleasant things. Your story continues to fascinate and astound me.. You have suffered so much, gone through so much.. I hope that it is getting better. I would love for you to write a book about how to look on the bright side of life and stay there no matter what gets thrown at you! It would be a comedy I'm sure!!xo Katy:)DGRAHAMA@... wrote: I have renal

disease where illness has attacked the kidneys and they dont function as well, but still at about 65 percent. I have been in kidney failure several times in the last couple years. I also have low cortisol and aldesterone which are adrenal hormones and the adrenals are on top of the kidneys, and my sodium pump doesnt work so I am full of fluid. The Sodium pump regulates your salt and your fluids in your body. I am about 65 lbs heavier than I was almost 2 years ago. Most of it gained this last year. I have fluid that runs out my nose any time I lean over or bend over. Pretty wild, huh? Have you had any adrenal testing done? I would suggest the Canary Club saliva testing. The girls on the site here have gotten great results by useing them. I have my test kit and am doing my test on monday. I had to get off of my meds for 10 days first. I have had lots of kidney pain myself, now since I have found out that my adrenals are compromised, I wonder if it has been them hurting many of the times......... I pray you dont have any more stones. My brother has had them and was in great pain. My heart goes out to you ! I do believe that the implants cause our bodies to not work properly, and there for believe it is entirely possible for your body to have made calcium deposits. Have you had further testing? Bless your heart ! Sending you prayers, hugs and hope ! DedeGet a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com.

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Lynn,I love that you are noticing the fluffing, even though you have probably even lost some weight from the Maker's diet.. Yay for fluffing!Katy:)Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Oh, and my breasts are very symetrical. They are both the same size. I am not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but I hear the breasts fluff and get bigger within the first year after explant. I have noticed this already. I do think they are bigger each month...

Again, I am SOOO happy to have my natural breasts back. I do not think anybody at work have noticed the difference either - I always wear a good padded bra, so I have sporting natural cleavage now! Lynn Lynn <spinkscl > wrote: , Today is exactly 3 months since my explant with Dr. Huang. Yes, I had the fat transfers. I am pretty skinny though, so she had a hard time finding enough fat to transfer. There was another lady who used to post here named , she also saw Dr. Huang and had fat transfers - much more than I had transferred. I know she was very very pleased with her results

but I don't know how much of her fat survived? I noticed my breasts were much bigger right after explant then they are now but I am sure this has to do with swelling from surgery as well as the fat transfer. I do think I would have looked much worse without the fat transfer. I am now an A cup (I was a C with implants and a B before implants). I really love my results. My breasts are so soft and they are nicely shaped. My only complaint is inverted nipples. Dr. Huang said she could fix this down the road if I wanted it fixed. Some of my explant photos are on shutterfly. The shutterfly link can be found on the Saline Support Home page at the bottom. The password is "implants." I have a f/u with Dr. Huang on the

30th of August. I plan to ask her if she was able to get all of my capsule. I am also going to ask for copies of the surgical reports. I do trust her but all of this talk of leftover capsule is sort of freaking me out. I am at such a vulnerable place because I want to get well. Somebody could tell me to drink pee and I just might if I knew I'd feel better (maybe not that extreme - but I am sure you know what I mean. Oh, I did not need a lift. My surgery was about $6,600 and that included fat transfers. You are right, she'll lipo all the fat from the areas you hate right now. So it is wonderful to come out of surgery with love handles gone, tummy gone, inner thigh fat gone.... Hugs, Lynn Cutshall

<michellecutshall71 > wrote: Lynn, Thanks for the compliment, that is sweet!! What have you done for the inflammation that they found/? Are you supplementing?? Detoxing?? Did you have the fat transfer?? How long ago did you have your explant?? Did the fat remain in your breast and stay even on both sides?? I know, i am asking a lot of questions. I like the idea of the fat transfer. Sounds good. Not sure I need it anymore since I am about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than when I got the implants. hopefully i will lose that after explant. I've heard that many have. michelleLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , You are so pretty!! Thanks for adding the photo! I agree, I think the capsule contains much of the sillicone from the shell. Dr. Huang sent my capsules in for testing and it showed that there was inflammation. My body was attacking the implants, chewing away at that silicone shell. I just don't see the difference in why a doctor would remove the capsules on silicone implants and leave them on saline? Because the shell is what is touching the capsules and it has silicone in it. I am sure your head is spinning, it is making my head spin. I pray you find your answers and can get and explant soon. Hugs, Lynn Cutshall

<michellecutshall71 > wrote: Hello, Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to the lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be worth it. He says it's like removing a wet tissue from a mirror. There will always be microscopic remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things. All my answers and questions are turning and turning in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say however, that He personally has never taken out implants that had mold and fungus on them. He said he has never seen this on implants ever. I wonder what is

causing the mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also says that it's not the capsule that causes the problems but the silicone in the shell. I would imagine though that there are "microscopic remains of silicone" in the capsules too. Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or it's that the damage has already been done from having the implants. I guess it is worse on some than others. I believe though through detox and proper eating and of course GOD that there is hope!!! Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much better although not 100%. But she has her energy back and she is not hurting like before. She also went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She was well pleased. Just thought you all might want to know!!! Blessings! p.s. I posted

some pics of myself on the group page photo section if anyone wants to put a face to a name!! lolLynn <spinkscl > wrote: , I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board as well is trying to save up money to get the remaining capsule out of her body that her first explant doctor left behind. She is still very sick, even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr. Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove the partial capsule which was left behind. I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He leads you down the right path. Your surgery is going to be expensive and I would hate for you to have another surgery down the road to remove the capsule. Hugs, Lynnglory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401 > wrote: ,I wish Dr. Melmed will show us his proof for saying the capsules will dissolve. Did you ask him? I am sure he can get it all if it is not too risky. I'd just want to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all if he can. In that case he may be a very good choice for you. I would just want to know that my doctor is not basing any of his actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions, such as capsules dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best to get out all of the scar tissue, based on several studies and papers written by medical professionals, and the experiences of women who did not have capsules removed and did not heal. You can see these articles

for yourself in our files section and links section on explant. Be sure to read them and review them carefully.You'll just have to go with your own instincts! Dr. Melmed has a great bedside manner from what I have heard.By the way, how is Kacey doing? The last I heard she was still dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.Patty> >I have been talking to Dr. Melmed, Dr. Kolb, and Dr. Huang all week.> >I still haven't decided which one I want. It is so very hard to> >decide which would be best for me. It would be easiest to see Dr.> >Melmed because I have family in texas that I could stay with and that> >would save me on hotel expenses. But Dr. Kolb has contacted me by> >email and phone which has impressed me very much. Dr. Huang showed me>

>great compassion in her email and hopes that i get better so I don't> >have to see her. Three very good doctors, just gotta pray about it.> >Anyway, the reason I am writing is I called my insurance and they> >said that if a Dr. sends a letter stating that it is my implants> >making me sick and that they can prove they need to come out,> >(leaking, rupture or whatever). I have to send it prior to the> >surgery. Don't know if there is really any hard proof from what I> >have read though. But maybe a good persuasive letter from a reputible> >doctor would be enough. And God's blessing on that as well. I have> >been talking to Kacey Long as well and she said she had to send> >multiple letters but she finally got her insurance to pay. So let me> >know what you all think. Also, all three doctors i talked to said> >that they remove the

capsules but there are times that they have to> >leave "some" especially if it is adhered to your lungs, ribs, or> >chest wall. So I guess a complete removal isn't always achievable but> >getting out the majority of the implant and capsule still has to be> >good, right?? Thanks to all who have been responding to my messages.> >You all have been very helpful.> >> > Cutshall> >> >> >> >Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. > ><http://ca.answers./>Go to Answers.> >> >> >> >No need to miss a message. > ><http://us.rd./evt=43910/*http://mobile./mail>Get >

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Lynn,Ok, I certainly don't have any of those symptoms except the pain, but its minimal and comes and goes when I have a IBS flare up. I will watch out, thank you!You are sweet for wanting to win the lotto to help me out! I have a new plan of action and am feeling empowered about it! I'm actively looking for a new dayjob and then I will continue to bartend on the weekends and can just save my tips! I am going to inquire about loans too. You don't know unless you try and the worst they can say is no... Being busier will help take my mind off of the tension at home and keep the arguments to a minimum until I move out. I'll just have to be careful not to exhaust myself. I worked 2 jobs last year and it sure helped my finances, but I overdid it.Katy:)Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote: Katy, I am glad to here it isn't anything serious right now! My friends hubby had a high fever, above 100 and was vomiting. He couldn't eat anything, no appetite. He thought he had food poisoning and when he couldn't break the fever or eat anything for 3 days he went to the doctor. He had pain in is lower right quadrant of his abdomen but thought it was muscle pain from vomiting so much. I think you'll now right away. Gosh I wish I could win the lotto!! I would pay for you to come to Denver and get the implants out!! Lynnkaty mclean

<thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: Lynn,Yeah the appendix thing is very strange. I need to look into it further. I had a bit of a fever today, but am suffering a sore throat, so don't think it is related. I have no pain around the appendix. Acute appendicitis is really sharp, that's why they suggested I might have a chronic infection?? I need to see my Dr and a surgeon and a naturopath. Right now it is clearly not life threatening, so I don't want to just into surgery.That story about your husband is scary. What should I watch for??Yeah my incision place is so weird. All the surgeons I have consulted have never seen it there. Maybe the strange entry site is why I have never had problems with contracture? Who knows! Just know I want them out! Katy:)Lynn <spinkscl > wrote: Katy, Wow, that is strange about the enlarged appendix. You would think you'd have other symptoms, like a fever. You have been having pains? If yes, you don't want it to become infected. My friends husband had pain, then got sick - thought it was the flu. He went 3 days before going to the doctor. He was so sick, he had gangreen (sp) in his body. He was in the hospital for like 3 weeks and had to recover for months. The side of your breasts? I have never heard of that type of incision? Mine were put in through the belly button.

The scars under my breasts for the explant are hidden by my breasts. I scar horribly and would't want it visible on my nipples. You take care of yourself!! I hope you appendix is okay. Hugs, Lynn katy mclean <thesuddendeparture (DOT) ca> wrote: Lynn,I dislike where I was originally implanted because myscars (on the sides of my breasts, under my arm) showin alot of shirts and bathing suits. I was expectingin through the armpit but I guess for some reason thesurgeon didn't do that....I know they probably have tocome out a

different way, so I appreciate hearing yourfeedback.Today I had a 2 hour long abdominal and pelvicultrasound ordered for my IBS. They found more lymphnodes in my abdomin and something I really wasn'texpecting... Apparently my appendix is huge. 3different Dr's came in to look at it. They said theywere surprised I wasn't very sick. I thought maybe Ijust natuarally had a large appendix, but now theywant to take it out. They said it may be "chronicallyinfected". I asked if it could be related to mydigestive stuff or the lymph nodes but it seems theydon't know. I don't want surgery that is unnecessary.I will get another opinion on it and see anaturopathic dr. So weird... I guess that may accountfor the pain I have?? Wonder how all of the piecesconnect together?Katy:)--- Lynn <spinkscl > wrote:> Dr. Huang removed my

implants through incisions> under my breasts. I am happy she did not go through> my areola. My scars are getting lighter each day> and they are in places which I can not see. > > I will ask Dr. Huang about the capsules at my next> appointment and let you all know.> > Hugs, Lynn> > freebindi <bindiaaahawk> wrote:> Hmm, that's very interesting that Huang> says the same thing as Melmed about the difficulty> of removing all of the capsules. I was under the> impression from previous posts that Huang ALWAYS> removes ALL the capsules.> > From the research I have read, some women who have> residual capsules take longer to resolve symptoms,> but I haven't read anything about women who have> small scraps of residual capsules. My guess is that> the body might still think it has

foreign invaders> (implants) if the whole capsules are left behind,> taking longer to get the message, but tiny scraps of> capsule don't have the same effect.> > If I am not mistaken, all the surgeons who remove> capsules make incisions around the areola, but some,> like Feng, also add a vertical incision.> > Bindi> > > > Get news delivered with the All new . Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail./try_beta?.intl=ca All new - Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.

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Hi Katy,

I hope your infection in your appendix is brought

under control soon and that you feel better.

Keep your eye on your novel. I know you'll do it.

Love & hugs,

Traci

--- katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

> Dear Bindi,

>

> Thank you for your message. I really needed to hear

> that after my ultrasound yesterday and finding out

> about my chronically infected appendix.. What a

> strange thing to add to the list! I am glad you are

> not suffering that long list anymore. I KNOW that I

> have to get these implants out as soon as I can

> afford

> it. I look forward to the health mysteries

> disappearing!

>

> By the way, I know you have recently finished a

> manuscript and I am wondering how the process is

> coming. It is my dream to complete a novel one day!

>

> Katy:)

> --- freebindi <bindi@...> wrote:

>

> > Katy,

> > I think that after explant you will find that many

> > if not all of your " strange " illnesses and

> disorders

> > will gradually disappear over time as your body

> > heals from those bad puppies. Many women have had

> > numerous diagnoses (including me) for illnesses

> that

> > disappeared after explant. When I first got sick I

> > was told I had MS, lupus, irritable bowl and

> bladder

> > syndrome, insomnia, neartsightedness, TMJ, panic

> > disorder, tachycardia, vertigo, migraines,

> > rheumatoid arthritis, FMS, CFS, Sjrogen's,

> Reynaud's

> > phenomenon, etc. Now I have one condition--

> adrenal

> > exhaustion. Everything else is gone.

> >

> > Bindi

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Traci,

If you have a chronically infected appendix, I

suggest having it removed ASAP. It will continue

to poison your system, as will the antibiotics to take care of it.

Lynda

At 11:20 AM 7/15/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Katy,

>

>I hope your infection in your appendix is brought

>under control soon and that you feel better.

>

>Keep your eye on your novel. I know you'll do it.

>

>Love & hugs,

>Traci

>

>--- katy mclean

><<mailto:thesuddendeparture%40.ca>thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

>

> > Dear Bindi,

> >

> > Thank you for your message. I really needed to hear

> > that after my ultrasound yesterday and finding out

> > about my chronically infected appendix.. What a

> > strange thing to add to the list! I am glad you are

> > not suffering that long list anymore. I KNOW that I

> > have to get these implants out as soon as I can

> > afford

> > it. I look forward to the health mysteries

> > disappearing!

> >

> > By the way, I know you have recently finished a

> > manuscript and I am wondering how the process is

> > coming. It is my dream to complete a novel one day!

> >

> > Katy:)

> > --- freebindi <<mailto:bindi%40aaahawk.com>bindi@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Katy,

> > > I think that after explant you will find that many

> > > if not all of your " strange " illnesses and

> > disorders

> > > will gradually disappear over time as your body

> > > heals from those bad puppies. Many women have had

> > > numerous diagnoses (including me) for illnesses

> > that

> > > disappeared after explant. When I first got sick I

> > > was told I had MS, lupus, irritable bowl and

> > bladder

> > > syndrome, insomnia, neartsightedness, TMJ, panic

> > > disorder, tachycardia, vertigo, migraines,

> > > rheumatoid arthritis, FMS, CFS, Sjrogen's,

> > Reynaud's

> > > phenomenon, etc. Now I have one condition--

> > adrenal

> > > exhaustion. Everything else is gone.

> > >

> > > Bindi

> >

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July 16, 2007

Katy

It is so weird how so many tests come out ok and within standards, and when they get inside us, they arent normal..........I am glad you are checking into this more. You are in my prayers ! I am so sorry you are going through so much.

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Lynda,

I am currently waiting to see a surgeon about my

appendix. Right now it is a bit confusing because none

of my blood tests or symptoms suggest its infected,

they just thought it was because of the ultrasound

pictures. I want to do a bit of research, but am

taking it quite seriously. Its entriely possible that

it has been making me feel sick. I will keep you

posted and thank you!

Katy:)

--- Lynda Roth <coss@...> wrote:

> Traci,

>

> If you have a chronically infected appendix, I

> suggest having it removed ASAP. It will continue

> to poison your system, as will the antibiotics to

> take care of it.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 11:20 AM 7/15/2007, you wrote:

>

> >Hi Katy,

> >

> >I hope your infection in your appendix is brought

> >under control soon and that you feel better.

> >

> >Keep your eye on your novel. I know you'll do it.

> >

> >Love & hugs,

> >Traci

> >

> >--- katy mclean

>

><<mailto:thesuddendeparture%40.ca>thesuddendeparture@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Bindi,

> > >

> > > Thank you for your message. I really needed to

> hear

> > > that after my ultrasound yesterday and finding

> out

> > > about my chronically infected appendix.. What a

> > > strange thing to add to the list! I am glad you

> are

> > > not suffering that long list anymore. I KNOW

> that I

> > > have to get these implants out as soon as I can

> > > afford

> > > it. I look forward to the health mysteries

> > > disappearing!

> > >

> > > By the way, I know you have recently finished a

> > > manuscript and I am wondering how the process is

> > > coming. It is my dream to complete a novel one

> day!

> > >

> > > Katy:)

> > > --- freebindi

> <<mailto:bindi%40aaahawk.com>bindi@...>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Katy,

> > > > I think that after explant you will find that

> many

> > > > if not all of your " strange " illnesses and

> > > disorders

> > > > will gradually disappear over time as your

> body

> > > > heals from those bad puppies. Many women have

> had

> > > > numerous diagnoses (including me) for

> illnesses

> > > that

> > > > disappeared after explant. When I first got

> sick I

> > > > was told I had MS, lupus, irritable bowl and

> > > bladder

> > > > syndrome, insomnia, neartsightedness, TMJ,

> panic

> > > > disorder, tachycardia, vertigo, migraines,

> > > > rheumatoid arthritis, FMS, CFS, Sjrogen's,

> > > Reynaud's

> > > > phenomenon, etc. Now I have one condition--

> > > adrenal

> > > > exhaustion. Everything else is gone.

> > > >

> > > > Bindi

> > >

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> >

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Awe thanks Traci!

I hope that we will all do the things we hope and

dream to do in life! I am counting down the days with

you... I am glad that you are going to Women's

College, it is such a great hospital!

I am actually feeling fine (well fine as in regular

and no different) despite the appendix news. I want to

get some clear answers that my Drs know whats going on

before I let them take it out. Right now they are

speculating and not confident in their diagnosis. I

will get to the bottom of it though! I had an

unnecessary 'hernia' surgery when I was younger that

was supposed to help w my problem digestion. The

recovery was horrible and I don't think they ever

really found what they were looking for. That

experience has made me more questioning.

Please do lots of nice things for yourself over the

next few days. I know the anticipation must be hard,

but we are all thinking of you!!

Katy:)

--- TM McIntosh <prowlermeow@...> wrote:

> Hi Katy,

>

> I hope your infection in your appendix is brought

> under control soon and that you feel better.

>

> Keep your eye on your novel. I know you'll do it.

>

> Love & hugs,

> Traci

>

> --- katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

>

> > Dear Bindi,

> >

> > Thank you for your message. I really needed to

> hear

> > that after my ultrasound yesterday and finding out

> > about my chronically infected appendix.. What a

> > strange thing to add to the list! I am glad you

> are

> > not suffering that long list anymore. I KNOW that

> I

> > have to get these implants out as soon as I can

> > afford

> > it. I look forward to the health mysteries

> > disappearing!

> >

> > By the way, I know you have recently finished a

> > manuscript and I am wondering how the process is

> > coming. It is my dream to complete a novel one

> day!

> >

> > Katy:)

> > --- freebindi <bindi@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Katy,

> > > I think that after explant you will find that

> many

> > > if not all of your " strange " illnesses and

> > disorders

> > > will gradually disappear over time as your body

> > > heals from those bad puppies. Many women have

> had

> > > numerous diagnoses (including me) for illnesses

> > that

> > > disappeared after explant. When I first got sick

> I

> > > was told I had MS, lupus, irritable bowl and

> > bladder

> > > syndrome, insomnia, neartsightedness, TMJ, panic

> > > disorder, tachycardia, vertigo, migraines,

> > > rheumatoid arthritis, FMS, CFS, Sjrogen's,

> > Reynaud's

> > > phenomenon, etc. Now I have one condition--

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> > > exhaustion. Everything else is gone.

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Katy,

Try to get to the bottom of this, as it could

keep you ill. Any chronic infection is very hard on the body.

Lynda

At 07:58 AM 7/16/2007, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>

>I am currently waiting to see a surgeon about my

>appendix. Right now it is a bit confusing because none

>of my blood tests or symptoms suggest its infected,

>they just thought it was because of the ultrasound

>pictures. I want to do a bit of research, but am

>taking it quite seriously. Its entriely possible that

>it has been making me feel sick. I will keep you

>posted and thank you!

>

>Katy:)

>--- Lynda Roth <<mailto:coss%40privatei.com>coss@...> wrote:

>

> > Traci,

> >

> > If you have a chronically infected appendix, I

> > suggest having it removed ASAP. It will continue

> > to poison your system, as will the antibiotics to

> > take care of it.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> > At 11:20 AM 7/15/2007, you wrote:

> >

> > >Hi Katy,

> > >

> > >I hope your infection in your appendix is brought

> > >under control soon and that you feel better.

> > >

> > >Keep your eye on your novel. I know you'll do it.

> > >

> > >Love & hugs,

> > >Traci

> > >

> > >--- katy mclean

> >

> ><<mailto:thesuddendeparture%40.ca><mailto:

> thesuddendeparture%40.ca>thesuddendeparture@...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Bindi,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your message. I really needed to

> > hear

> > > > that after my ultrasound yesterday and finding

> > out

> > > > about my chronically infected appendix.. What a

> > > > strange thing to add to the list! I am glad you

> > are

> > > > not suffering that long list anymore. I KNOW

> > that I

> > > > have to get these implants out as soon as I can

> > > > afford

> > > > it. I look forward to the health mysteries

> > > > disappearing!

> > > >

> > > > By the way, I know you have recently finished a

> > > > manuscript and I am wondering how the process is

> > > > coming. It is my dream to complete a novel one

> > day!

> > > >

> > > > Katy:)

> > > > --- freebindi

> > <<mailto:bindi%40aaahawk.com><mailto:bindi%40aaahawk.com>bindi@...>

> > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Katy,

> > > > > I think that after explant you will find that

> > many

> > > > > if not all of your " strange " illnesses and

> > > > disorders

> > > > > will gradually disappear over time as your

> > body

> > > > > heals from those bad puppies. Many women have

> > had

> > > > > numerous diagnoses (including me) for

> > illnesses

> > > > that

> > > > > disappeared after explant. When I first got

> > sick I

> > > > > was told I had MS, lupus, irritable bowl and

> > > > bladder

> > > > > syndrome, insomnia, neartsightedness, TMJ,

> > panic

> > > > > disorder, tachycardia, vertigo, migraines,

> > > > > rheumatoid arthritis, FMS, CFS, Sjrogen's,

> > > > Reynaud's

> > > > > phenomenon, etc. Now I have one condition--

> > > > adrenal

> > > > > exhaustion. Everything else is gone.

> > > > >

> > > > > Bindi

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Dede,

Thanks for the nice message! I love your idea of the

hypothetical sitcom... I wonder who would play all of

us?! I think I would like to be played by

Arquette:)

Katy:)

--- DGRAHAMA@... wrote:

> Katy ~

> Thank you, you are so kind ! You have been down

> quite the road yourself my

> dear ! ! And still are ! ! I cannot believe

> your appendics are inflamed

> and large. Are they gonna do further testing? I

> know things can get hung in

> there, like seeds, fingernails that are bitten off

> and swallowed, and

> perhaps chunks of silicone shell can

> too.......geeze what next?????

> Girl, you are in my prayers. I pray you have a big

> lump sum of money just

> appear and be yours. I pray you have no more pain,

> emotional or physical, and

> I pray you heal quickly and completely. Hugs N

> Prayers ~ Dede

>

> Girl, I would love to be in a sitcom with all our

> girls ! We could all get

> together, and take movies, of all our seriousness,

> and of all our goofyness,

> and all our emotional, and I think we could come up

> with some quite moving,

> emotional, and funny flicks ! Or we could just do

> an annual movie like the

> BlairWitch ones, but of course ours would be much

> better......

> We could do a reality show, like big brother, but

> call

> it..........hum......some creative thought here.,

> Big Sisters, interesting.......we

> otta.......maybe could earn some good dollars and

> help sisters needing explant help..... It

> could start out where all the sisters on set had

> big boobs, and have many

> stories within the group, but integrate boobs

> popping, and deflating while at

> dinner meeting boyfriends parents, things like

> that........I think we all can

> do a great job doing this..........watcha think?

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Dede,

When it rains it pours as they say! And the very good

thing about this is that you get it over with all at

once;) Thank you for the support.

Right now I am broke, looking for a new apartment,

looking for a job, going through a breakup, having an

enlarged appendix, and working towards getting my

implants out... And you know what? Its all OK and I

have faith that it will all come together. I feel like

I am lucky in so many ways, I feel grateful everyday.

God bless you Dede! I hope that the saliva tests

reveal some missing link that will help you move

forward in health and wellness..

Katy:)

--- DGRAHAMA@... wrote:

> Katy

> It is so weird how so many tests come out ok and

> within standards, and when

> they get inside us, they arent normal..........I am

> glad you are checking

> into this more. You are in my prayers ! I am so

> sorry you are going through so

> much.

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Bindi,

This is so exciting about your fiction collection and

now the book deal!! At this point, I really don't

understand alot about the business of publishing

either. I will be excited to have a read when it is

published!

Katy:)

--- freebindi <bindi@...> wrote:

> Katy and Patty,

> Thanks for asking about my book. My writing has

> definitely been keeping me going.

>

> I finished a fiction collection which my agent is

> very pleased with and now am working on a novel--

> once I send in the first 50 pages, my agent is

> planning to try for a two-book publishing deal.

> Supposedly for first fiction collections, it's

> better to do this. What do I know? It's all Greek

> to me, I am so uninterested in the business aspect

> of writing literature. I just keep writing and let

> the agent do the boring part.

>

> Bindi

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July 16, 2007

,

Thank you for the link and all of the info! I never

thought about flying out just for consultations, but I

suppose it is an option. It does make me nervous to

book surgery with a person I have never met, but then

so many women have done it this way so I know I am in

good hands with one of the surgeons on the list.

Thanks again!

Katy:)

--- Cutshall <michellecutshall71@...>

wrote:

> Katy,

>

> ha ha ha!! Yeah, I am a sassy gal and confident

> with or without boobs!! ha ha ha All i want is to

> be whole and healthy. I can always buy push up bras

> again. Not a big deal.

>

> I have talked to Dr. Melmed and Dr. Kolb through

> email and on the phone. Dr. Huang only through

> email. They all want me to send them pics which i

> plan on doing this weekend. I am also gonna make a

> long questionaire for each to fill out and i am

> gonna keep them for my records. Dr. Melmed quoted me

> around $5000 to $6000 I believe. He sent me a list

> of prices on two different pages, one with insurance

> and one without. But I didn't understand the one

> page cuz it had the prices for anesthesia, hospital,

> Dr. melmed's price (oh,and he doesn't tell the

> hospital if he does a lift therefore, he doesn't

> charge you for it, AWESOME) He can do the lift from

> the areola which is great. Minimal scarring.

>

> Right now, i am trying to get enough money for a

> plane ticket and hotel room for a day or two so i

> can get a consult with him. There is a lady, i can't

> remember who on here who is going to him on the 18th

> to have her explant. Can't wait to hear how it goes

> for her. There is also a site called

> www.breastimplantsupport.org Once you join than

> someone will give you access to their stories and

> pics. You can see many, many, explants and stories

> from women who had Dr. Melmed and look great!!!

> This may help you decide too. There are ones from

> Dr. Kolb and Dr. Feng as well and some others that i

> haven't heard of yet. I certainly have done more

> research in getting these things out than I did

> getting them put in. I am a lot older now and mature

> and having a child makes you want to be able to take

> care of them. I refuse to get worse and not be able

> to raise my child.

>

> i really want to get these out soon. I have been

> having a lot of breast and rib pain lately. Not sure

> what is going on. But i don't like it. Let me know

> what you find out about your explant and such.

>

> katy mclean <thesuddendeparture@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I love the photo- so sassy! I really love seeing

> everyone.. I will have to get some pictures to post

> as

> well...

>

> Wow, sounds like you have really been communicating

> with these Drs!! Thank you for sharing! Are you

> doing

> it through email or on the phone?

>

> I am also wondring if you have received any

> estimates

> from Dr Melmed yet.. I haven't been able to speak to

> his coordinators yet, things have been sooo crazy

> for

> me with looking for a place to live, etc..

>

> Your information is helping me so much!

>

> Katy:)

> --- Cutshall <michellecutshall71@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Hello,

> >

> > Dr. Melmed says he DOES get the capsules out, the

> > ONLY time he leaves any is if it has adhered to

> the

> > lungs or ribs to where it would cause excessive

> > bleeding or puncture the lungs. That wouldn't be

> > worth it. He says it's like removing a wet tissue

> > from a mirror. There will always be microscopic

> > remains. But that the capsules will dissipate. I

> > haven't asked him yet where the proof is for that

> > yet. I have been soooo busy talking to Dr. Kolb,

> Dr.

> > Huang and Dr. Melmed about many different things.

> > All my answers and questions are turning and

> turning

> > in my head!!! Dr. Melmed did say however, that He

> > personally has never taken out implants that had

> > mold and fungus on them. He said he has never seen

> > this on implants ever. I wonder what is causing

> the

> > mold on some of these ladies implants?? He also

> > says that it's not the capsule that causes the

> > problems but the silicone in the shell. I would

> > imagine though that there are " microscopic remains

> > of silicone " in the capsules too.

> > Maybe that is why some of these ladies are sick or

> > it's that the damage has already been done from

> > having the implants. I guess it is worse on some

> > than others. I believe though through detox and

> > proper eating and of course GOD that there is

> > hope!!!

> >

> > Kacey said she is doing good. She feels much

> > better although not 100%. But she has her energy

> > back and she is not hurting like before. She also

> > went back to Dr. Melmed for a lump on her hand and

> > he removed it for her and barely left a scar. She

> > was well pleased.

> >

> > Just thought you all might want to know!!!

> >

> > Blessings!

> >

> > p.s. I posted some pics of myself on the group

> > page photo section if anyone wants to put a face

> to

> > a name!! lol

> >

> > Lynn <spinkscl@...> wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > I agree with Patty. Nan, who posts on this board

> > as well is trying to save up money to get the

> > remaining capsule out of her body that her first

> > explant doctor left behind. She is still very

> sick,

> > even after explant. She had saline implants!! Dr.

> > Kolb is charging her almost $10,000 just to remove

> > the partial capsule which was left behind.

> >

> > I am with you, I would pray to God and hope He

> > leads you down the right path. Your surgery is

> > going to be expensive and I would hate for you to

> > have another surgery down the road to remove the

> > capsule.

> >

> > Hugs, Lynn

> >

> > glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> > ,

> > I wish Dr. Melmed will show us his proof for

> saying

> > the capsules

> > will dissolve. Did you ask him?

> >

> > I am sure he can get it all if it is not too

> risky.

> > I'd just want

> > to make sure he has it in his mind to get it all

> if

> > he can. In that

> > case he may be a very good choice for you.

> >

> > I would just want to know that my doctor is not

> > basing any of his

> > actions regarding my outcome on false assumptions,

> > such as capsules

> > dissolving. At this point, we believe it is best

> to

> > get out all

> > of the scar tissue, based on several studies and

> > papers written by

> > medical professionals, and the experiences of

> women

> > who did not have

> > capsules removed and did not heal. You can see

> these

> > articles for

> > yourself in our files section and links section on

> > explant. Be sure

> > to read them and review them carefully.

> >

> > You'll just have to go with your own instincts!

> Dr.

> > Melmed has a

> > great bedside manner from what I have heard.

> >

> > By the way, how is Kacey doing? The last I heard

> she

> > was still

> > dealing with some symptoms that have not resolved.

> > Patty

> >

> > >

> > > Wow!! I wish someone would show me the proof

> that

> > SALINE capsules

> > will dissipate or that they won't!! The more I

> talk

> > to people on

> > here and Doctors the more confused I get!!! Dr.

> > Melmed says he DOES

>

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July 16, 2007

Katy ~

That is so true, it does pour when it rains. It is amazing how strong we really are to work past all the obsticles thrown at us. I would have to say right now, you not only have a full plate, you have many full plates !

Bless your heart ! You are in my prayers !

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Katy ~

I like Arquette too ! I really think we could all play ourselves ! LOL............I believe we would do a great job !

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July 21, 2007

Johanna, Welcome to . . . . I've been traveling - haven't been able to keep up with messages. But yours caught my eye. Your question may have been answered already. You're on the right track, but it sounds like you may have to keep looking . . . I'd recommend reading a new book "How Doctors Think" . . . It will give you insight about how to approach them for the best treatment. You're unlikely to get a plastic surgeon to sign onto the dangers of breast implants . .. but never mind that. Find a doctor who you feel has your best interests at heart and that you can trust. . . . We have a number of doctors listed in the archives of "recommended doctors" . . . Hugs, Rogene Dear Bindi and Saline Support Group:I am a new member. I have mentors textured saline implants from 1994. I have one rupture and have seen 4 plastic surgeons about removal. They are all board certified with excellent credentials. The first one is really nice which I have a surgery scheduled with next month and said he will try and remove the capsule also as best as possible. However, he didn't order blood work and told me I didn't have to quit smoking which kind of worries me. The second told me to leave the capsule in for extra clevage, isn't board certified (of course-I am NOT using him). The third was a

real calous jerk, gave me an attitude about my chronic illnesses which I won't use. The last does remove the capsules and says no, they don't just vanish and leaving it in WILL result in a future surgery which was nice to hear. He was a bit arrogant, maybe a little humorous, but NONE of them will admit to illnesses conected to them,, of course. The thing that worries me about this one is that he wouldn't show me before and after pictures of removals without replacement because he said there was no point because everyone's breasts look different after removal. That worries me. I saw his breast lifts (which I can't afford nor want to do at this time). He also made me sign a paper that if further procedures need to be done, (ie: treatment of infection or further surgery) I will be responsible for. My husband is very upset about him not showing me pictures and thinks that we shouldn't have to pay for any further procedures relating to the first one. Has anyone

heard of this or had to sign something like this? I din't the first time. I thinkk he's a little money hungry. He told me his business wasn't a charity. I also told him my history of bad health since 7 months after the implants (neurological-bad mri's etc, fibromyalgia, etc, etc) and said I wanted to keep the implants and have them cultured and caught a lot of flack. He said I could use the hospital for thos labs if it made me feel better, but not some off the wall lab he wasn't familiar with. He was very defensive and asked me if I was going to sue anybody because he didn't want to get involved in it. He might be the best surgeon so far (credential wise) but seemed he was more worried about saving his own ass instead of my health. What do you think? I am so confused and don't know who to use at this point. I am so tired of paying a fortune for consults too! I do have a rupture (recent) and have felt really crappy since it happened. I don't think he

believed me. Thanks.Jo-NJ .

August 19, 2007

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What a pathetic system we have........in many ways.....

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