Re: Introduction

[Guest guest]

> loaner hearing aids until we find

> out if we can get any financial help to buy his.

You might want to visit my page on Sources Of Hearing Aid & Cochlear Implant

Funding

http://www.listen-up.org/haidfund.htm

> Neal doesn't like to wear the aids though, so it's been really

> hard to tell if they are helping him at all or not.

Another page that may be helpful:

If Your Child Won't Keep Their Hearing Aids In...

http://www.listen-up.org/aids-out.htm

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

<< If Your Child Won't Keep Their Hearing Aids In...

http://www.listen-up.org/aids-out.htm

>>

Thanks for both of those links Kay.

~Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You might know my wife Martha. She's the Parent Coordinator for the Newborn

Hearing Screening Program. If you need help finding EI services in the

state of MA, you can email her at martha.dehahn@....

We have two profoundly deaf children diagnosed well before there was

newborn screening. I testified in front of the Legislature to help it

become law here. Our kids are 5 and 10 and attend an oral school for the deaf.

By all means, you can start SLP services right away. Get language into your

child in any way you can. And just talk, talk, talk, all the time.

Best of luck, and if you need some assistance off list just ask.

Chris

At 02:21 PM 6/6/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I just joined the group and I thought I'd introduce myself. My husband

>and I have a 15 week old son that was diagnosed through the newborn

>hearing screening program to be profoundly deaf. His audiogram only shows

>a response at 250Hz, 90/75dB (right/left). This is our first child so we

>were quite overwhelmed and upset at first. We still have our moments, but

>we have tried our best to get past grieving and on to doing what we can to

>best help the situation.

>

>Our son is now wearing a body aid and we will be getting him

>Phonek Sonoforte BTE aids in a couple of weeks (we're borrowing both the

>aids from Children's Hospital here in Boston). We are hopefully working

>towards a CI when Ben's 1 year old.

>

>We've been in touch with Early Intervention and through them we've

>enrolled in a Parent-Infant program, Sign Language classes, and deaf

>educator will be visiting us on a regular basis. We've also signed up for

>the Correspondence course. I've spoken to a couple of

>speech/language pathologists, but we're not seeing one on a regular basis

>yet. Our current plan is to use the hearing aids and sign language (total

>communication) with him since we don't think he's hearing a lot with the aids.

>

>A couple of questions: When would you start speech/language pathology for

>an infant with profound loss? Are there certain pre-CI implant things we

>should be doing?

>

>One of the things I've found most helpful is talking to other parents, so

>I'm looking forward to being on this list. I'd welcome comments on what

>we're doing for Ben and any advice people have for parents of an infant

>who is deaf.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You might know my wife Martha. She's the Parent Coordinator for the Newborn

Hearing Screening Program. If you need help finding EI services in the

state of MA, you can email her at martha.dehahn@....

We have two profoundly deaf children diagnosed well before there was

newborn screening. I testified in front of the Legislature to help it

become law here. Our kids are 5 and 10 and attend an oral school for the deaf.

By all means, you can start SLP services right away. Get language into your

child in any way you can. And just talk, talk, talk, all the time.

Best of luck, and if you need some assistance off list just ask.

Chris

At 02:21 PM 6/6/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I just joined the group and I thought I'd introduce myself. My husband

>and I have a 15 week old son that was diagnosed through the newborn

>hearing screening program to be profoundly deaf. His audiogram only shows

>a response at 250Hz, 90/75dB (right/left). This is our first child so we

>were quite overwhelmed and upset at first. We still have our moments, but

>we have tried our best to get past grieving and on to doing what we can to

>best help the situation.

>

>Our son is now wearing a body aid and we will be getting him

>Phonek Sonoforte BTE aids in a couple of weeks (we're borrowing both the

>aids from Children's Hospital here in Boston). We are hopefully working

>towards a CI when Ben's 1 year old.

>

>We've been in touch with Early Intervention and through them we've

>enrolled in a Parent-Infant program, Sign Language classes, and deaf

>educator will be visiting us on a regular basis. We've also signed up for

>the Correspondence course. I've spoken to a couple of

>speech/language pathologists, but we're not seeing one on a regular basis

>yet. Our current plan is to use the hearing aids and sign language (total

>communication) with him since we don't think he's hearing a lot with the aids.

>

>A couple of questions: When would you start speech/language pathology for

>an infant with profound loss? Are there certain pre-CI implant things we

>should be doing?

>

>One of the things I've found most helpful is talking to other parents, so

>I'm looking forward to being on this list. I'd welcome comments on what

>we're doing for Ben and any advice people have for parents of an infant

>who is deaf.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You might know my wife Martha. She's the Parent Coordinator for the Newborn

Hearing Screening Program. If you need help finding EI services in the

state of MA, you can email her at martha.dehahn@....

We have two profoundly deaf children diagnosed well before there was

newborn screening. I testified in front of the Legislature to help it

become law here. Our kids are 5 and 10 and attend an oral school for the deaf.

By all means, you can start SLP services right away. Get language into your

child in any way you can. And just talk, talk, talk, all the time.

Best of luck, and if you need some assistance off list just ask.

Chris

At 02:21 PM 6/6/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I just joined the group and I thought I'd introduce myself. My husband

>and I have a 15 week old son that was diagnosed through the newborn

>hearing screening program to be profoundly deaf. His audiogram only shows

>a response at 250Hz, 90/75dB (right/left). This is our first child so we

>were quite overwhelmed and upset at first. We still have our moments, but

>we have tried our best to get past grieving and on to doing what we can to

>best help the situation.

>

>Our son is now wearing a body aid and we will be getting him

>Phonek Sonoforte BTE aids in a couple of weeks (we're borrowing both the

>aids from Children's Hospital here in Boston). We are hopefully working

>towards a CI when Ben's 1 year old.

>

>We've been in touch with Early Intervention and through them we've

>enrolled in a Parent-Infant program, Sign Language classes, and deaf

>educator will be visiting us on a regular basis. We've also signed up for

>the Correspondence course. I've spoken to a couple of

>speech/language pathologists, but we're not seeing one on a regular basis

>yet. Our current plan is to use the hearing aids and sign language (total

>communication) with him since we don't think he's hearing a lot with the aids.

>

>A couple of questions: When would you start speech/language pathology for

>an infant with profound loss? Are there certain pre-CI implant things we

>should be doing?

>

>One of the things I've found most helpful is talking to other parents, so

>I'm looking forward to being on this list. I'd welcome comments on what

>we're doing for Ben and any advice people have for parents of an infant

>who is deaf.

[Guest guest]

-Hello,

Welcome to the list, you will find this a great place for support and

information.

My son was also dx at birth with a hearing loss. He was fitted

with a body worn hearing aid and started AV therapy at 8 weeks of

age. He is now almost 3 (august 5) and is doing wonderful. I know

when I first found out about 's loss and I spoke to other

parents, they would say to me " you are so lucky you found out so soon

about his hearing loss " , I did not feel lucky nor could I understand

why they were saying this to me. But now almost 3 years later I know

exactly what they were saying, the importance of early dectection and

early intervention are so important. I look back at it now, as yes,

it was the most difficult time in my life, but it was the best thing

that could have ever happened for . Don't get me wrong, I still

have some sad days, but the happy days certainly out number the sad

ones.

My son has also been seen a couple of times at Children's Hospital in

Boston, love them there!!

Please email me privately if you would like to talk more.

Best Wishes!!

debbie

's Mom

[Guest guest]

-Hello,

Welcome to the list, you will find this a great place for support and

information.

My son was also dx at birth with a hearing loss. He was fitted

with a body worn hearing aid and started AV therapy at 8 weeks of

age. He is now almost 3 (august 5) and is doing wonderful. I know

when I first found out about 's loss and I spoke to other

parents, they would say to me " you are so lucky you found out so soon

about his hearing loss " , I did not feel lucky nor could I understand

why they were saying this to me. But now almost 3 years later I know

exactly what they were saying, the importance of early dectection and

early intervention are so important. I look back at it now, as yes,

it was the most difficult time in my life, but it was the best thing

that could have ever happened for . Don't get me wrong, I still

have some sad days, but the happy days certainly out number the sad

ones.

My son has also been seen a couple of times at Children's Hospital in

Boston, love them there!!

Please email me privately if you would like to talk more.

Best Wishes!!

debbie

's Mom

[Guest guest]

-Hello,

Welcome to the list, you will find this a great place for support and

information.

My son was also dx at birth with a hearing loss. He was fitted

with a body worn hearing aid and started AV therapy at 8 weeks of

age. He is now almost 3 (august 5) and is doing wonderful. I know

when I first found out about 's loss and I spoke to other

parents, they would say to me " you are so lucky you found out so soon

about his hearing loss " , I did not feel lucky nor could I understand

why they were saying this to me. But now almost 3 years later I know

exactly what they were saying, the importance of early dectection and

early intervention are so important. I look back at it now, as yes,

it was the most difficult time in my life, but it was the best thing

that could have ever happened for . Don't get me wrong, I still

have some sad days, but the happy days certainly out number the sad

ones.

My son has also been seen a couple of times at Children's Hospital in

Boston, love them there!!

Please email me privately if you would like to talk more.

Best Wishes!!

debbie

's Mom

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I wrote a response and tried to e-mail it to you but for some

reason it won't go through.

my e-mail address is sextonfamily75@... if you want to e-mail me

if you have another address or have an idea why it won't go through.

I know how you and your Husband feel, I also have a child with a profound

loss and found out through the NB screening that she might have a loss. My

daughter will be 3 on the 17th and it does get better.

After the shock and after you learn more about hearing loss and you watch

your son grow and learn, you may just be surprised how much a child that

can't hear can do. I sure was, my daughter went 2 yrs without hearing

anything and she just amazes me. She now wears a new hearing aid called

impact aids and hearing is still new to her

but she's coming right along. You just talk to your son and learn to sign if

you want your son to learn it and get him into speech therapy as soon as

possible even at his young age, he can learn much more then you might think.

I really think its very important to talk to him even if you think he can't

hear you because you just never know what he might hear and besides it will

help

with lip reading also.

I would love to write more but my daughter is demanding my attention.

I would like to send you the e-mail I wrote so if you have any ideas

just e-mail me.

Good Luck, Priscilla

>

>Reply-To: Listen-Up

>To: " Listen Up " <listen-up >

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:21:37 -0400

>

>Hi,

>

>I just joined the group and I thought I'd introduce myself. My husband and

>I have a 15 week old son that was diagnosed through the newborn hearing

>screening program to be profoundly deaf. His audiogram only shows a

>response at 250Hz, 90/75dB (right/left). This is our first child so we

>were quite overwhelmed and upset at first. We still have our moments, but

>we have tried our best to get past grieving and on to doing what we can to

>best help the situation.

>

>Our son is now wearing a body aid and we will be getting him

>Phonek Sonoforte BTE aids in a couple of weeks (we're borrowing both the

>aids from Children's Hospital here in Boston). We are hopefully working

>towards a CI when Ben's 1 year old.

>

>We've been in touch with Early Intervention and through them we've enrolled

>in a Parent-Infant program, Sign Language classes, and deaf educator will

>be visiting us on a regular basis. We've also signed up for the

>Correspondence course. I've spoken to a couple of speech/language

>pathologists, but we're not seeing one on a regular basis yet. Our current

>plan is to use the hearing aids and sign language (total communication)

>with him since we don't think he's hearing a lot with the aids.

>

>A couple of questions: When would you start speech/language pathology for

>an infant with profound loss? Are there certain pre-CI implant things we

>should be doing?

>

>One of the things I've found most helpful is talking to other parents, so

>I'm looking forward to being on this list. I'd welcome comments on what

>we're doing for Ben and any advice people have for parents of an infant who

>is deaf.

>

>Thanks!

>Jen

>

> Borhegyi

>jborhegyi@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

a,

Welcome to the list; you have found a wonderful group of

knowledgeable, caring people. I wish you luck on your journey.

Stefanie

mom to Ben, 2 yrs 11 months, severe HOH, connexin 26

>Hello :-)

>

>My name is a Isted and my son is profoundly

>deaf. We found out when he was about 10 months old.

>He passed his newborn screening, but we had had

>concerns from the beginning. We do not know what

>caused his deafness. He was 5 weeks early and only

>weighed 4lb 11oz. He did not have any ototoxic drugs

>that we are aware of, but a lot went on at his birth.

>I stated my worries to the ped at every check-up, but

>finally had to demand a hearing test. It's been six

>months now since we found out. I, and my husband are

>doing a lot better now, but it was the most tragic

>thing that we have ever faced. I know now, that it

>wasn't, but it did feel that way at the time. Since

>finding out I have done hours and hours of research on

>the internet and have found many great resources.

>After the initial tests done at our local university

>we decided to go to Children's Hospital in Seattle.

>We live about an hour North. received his

>hearing aids the week he turned one. We have never

>seen any benefit from the aids and when we did sound

>booth testing we only got a couple of non-reproducible

>responses at 70-90 decibels. At that point we decided

>to go ahead with a coclear implant. His surgery date

>is scheduled for August 21st. I just received word

>today that we have insurance approval! After much

>debate, we have decided to go with the CII. I'm

>looking foward to getting the surgery part over.

>Thanks for listening and I look forward to learning a

>lot from everyone!

>

>a, Don, & (16 months profound)

[Guest guest]

Hi a & Don!

Welcome to the list. I'm sure you will find a lot of

great info and support here, as I have. Our 19 mo.

daughter, Emma, also falsely passed her newborn

screening at birth, but her severe/profound loss was

not diagnosed until 16 mo. I fully understand the

grief you and your husband have felt - and we all have

our days still. I wish you much luck with your

journey, and big hugs to .

Patti (mom to Emma, 19 mo. severe/profound)

--- The Isted's wrote:

> Hello :-)

>

> My name is a Isted and my son is

> profoundly

> deaf. We found out when he was about 10 months old.

>

> He passed his newborn screening, but we had had

> concerns from the beginning. We do not know what

> caused his deafness. He was 5 weeks early and only

> weighed 4lb 11oz. He did not have any ototoxic

> drugs

> that we are aware of, but a lot went on at his

> birth.

> I stated my worries to the ped at every check-up,

> but

> finally had to demand a hearing test. It's been six

> months now since we found out. I, and my husband

> are

> doing a lot better now, but it was the most tragic

> thing that we have ever faced. I know now, that it

> wasn't, but it did feel that way at the time. Since

> finding out I have done hours and hours of research

> on

> the internet and have found many great resources.

> After the initial tests done at our local university

> we decided to go to Children's Hospital in Seattle.

> We live about an hour North. received his

> hearing aids the week he turned one. We have never

> seen any benefit from the aids and when we did sound

> booth testing we only got a couple of

> non-reproducible

> responses at 70-90 decibels. At that point we

> decided

> to go ahead with a coclear implant. His surgery

> date

> is scheduled for August 21st. I just received word

> today that we have insurance approval! After much

> debate, we have decided to go with the CII. I'm

> looking foward to getting the surgery part over.

> Thanks for listening and I look forward to learning

> a

> lot from everyone!

>

> a, Don, & (16 months profound)

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Can someone tell me how to set up a support group in my home town thank you

[Guest guest]

Welcome to our little corner of the world, a.

> His surgery date

> is scheduled for August 21st.

Good luck. We'll be thinking of you and .

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

<< We have never

seen any benefit from the aids and when we did sound

booth testing we only got a couple of non-reproducible

responses at 70-90 decibels. At that point we decided

to go ahead with a coclear implant. His surgery date

is scheduled for August 21st. >>

Welcome. Your son's level of hearing loss sounds simlar to my son's. Neal

is 22 months old. We didn't find out he was deaf until about 4 months ago

though. So far no notable response to his hearing aids, and he had the same

sound field tests results as your son. I think we will be going the cochlear

route shortly. I would love to hear more about how yours works out and how

you decided on the type you will be getting.

~Rhonda

[Guest guest]

<< We have never

seen any benefit from the aids and when we did sound

booth testing we only got a couple of non-reproducible

responses at 70-90 decibels. At that point we decided

to go ahead with a coclear implant. His surgery date

is scheduled for August 21st. >>

Welcome. Your son's level of hearing loss sounds simlar to my son's. Neal

is 22 months old. We didn't find out he was deaf until about 4 months ago

though. So far no notable response to his hearing aids, and he had the same

sound field tests results as your son. I think we will be going the cochlear

route shortly. I would love to hear more about how yours works out and how

you decided on the type you will be getting.

~Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Thanks you Kay so much

[Guest guest]

> Can someone tell me how to set up a support group in my home town thank you

Are you interested in forming a group because some parents you know are

interested in it,

or because you would like to get parents and interested others together? Some

parents and

I get together every once in a while and have breakfast, and that's one type of

support

group. Then there are more formal structures that include speakers and

newsletters.

I'm currently setting one up for cochlear implant users. First, you have to find

interested folks, a place to meet, have an agenda, a way to contact each other,

and some

idea of the structure you want the group to take (Social? Informational? What do

the kids

do during the meetings? When? How long? etc.). Of course, it's very helpful to

my efforts

to have 3 of the 4 implant surgeons in town supporting the group I'm working on,

and even

financing it. (The 4th surgeon is military, has orders out for in a week or two,

and his

patients are mostly from other Air Force Bases.) For example, they asked me what

I needed,

I said a room with an amplification system and CART, and they set it up. I want

info

mailed out, I send them the info, give them any addresses I want added to the

list, and

they type it up and mail it out. Hey, if only everything in life was this way, I

could get

spoiled. ;-)

I know that was a very " rough " plan, but after 3 meetings with folks to set this

up,

that's what it boils down to. If you want me to expound on any of this, I'll be

more than

happy to do so.

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

> Can someone tell me how to set up a support group in my home town thank you

Are you interested in forming a group because some parents you know are

interested in it,

or because you would like to get parents and interested others together? Some

parents and

I get together every once in a while and have breakfast, and that's one type of

support

group. Then there are more formal structures that include speakers and

newsletters.

I'm currently setting one up for cochlear implant users. First, you have to find

interested folks, a place to meet, have an agenda, a way to contact each other,

and some

idea of the structure you want the group to take (Social? Informational? What do

the kids

do during the meetings? When? How long? etc.). Of course, it's very helpful to

my efforts

to have 3 of the 4 implant surgeons in town supporting the group I'm working on,

and even

financing it. (The 4th surgeon is military, has orders out for in a week or two,

and his

patients are mostly from other Air Force Bases.) For example, they asked me what

I needed,

I said a room with an amplification system and CART, and they set it up. I want

info

mailed out, I send them the info, give them any addresses I want added to the

list, and

they type it up and mail it out. Hey, if only everything in life was this way, I

could get

spoiled. ;-)

I know that was a very " rough " plan, but after 3 meetings with folks to set this

up,

that's what it boils down to. If you want me to expound on any of this, I'll be

more than

happy to do so.

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Oh, I'm sure everything will go fine when the time

comes. I usually worry too much and expect the worst

just to make myself feel better if the worst doesn't

happen

And I guess it won't be a bad thing to be 'asleep'

during the surgery instead of being awake and hearing

the doctor swear because things aren't going well

During one of the surgeries I had on my gums, the

dentist decided to just use local anesthetic since I'm

not a nervous patient and it's easier if the patient

is awake. Well, there was complications and the

dentist started to get frustrated since the procedure

was taking much longer. It lasted 3 hours instead of

90 minutes. He actually sweared a few times. He's not

my dentist anymore. And I remember wishing I was

'asleep' when I had an accident 2 years ago and

suffered a head injury. It's really weird to have

someone playing around, cleaning and putting stitches

in your head. I got only 12 stitches on the back right

side of my skull, but the cut was crooked and the

doctor kept telling me it didn't look good and that he

was hoping it healed up okay and so on. If I wasn't

feeling so weak because of the accident - I probably

would have told him to shut up. I've had some weird

doctors But I digress.

I'm glad you had a good surgeon Cammie. Apparently my

surgeon is great and although I didn't get to talk to

him too much about his other patients - I did meet one

of them (who's a fellow doctor) who had oral surgery

done by him and was very pleased. So I guess if a

doctor turns to him for surgery - he must have some

idea of what he's doing

Love always,

Johanne

--- ceast36532 <no_reply > wrote:

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Actually, that was my surgeon's formulation of what

goes on. <BR>

<BR>

You are wise to take it seriously -- but, hey -- if

you were in an <BR>

auto accident, or developed heart disease, you'd be

whisked into the <BR>

O.R. for anesthesia and surgery to save your life in a

hurry. That <BR>

thought was consoling to me; if i needed lifesaving

surgery, I <BR>

wouldn't stop for a second because of the anesthesia.

I was also <BR>

fortunate in that I knew and liked my anesthesiologist

beforehand, <BR>

and he is a man I was not at all uncomfortable in

trusting with my <BR>

life.<BR>

<BR>

I think the actual procedure, at least in the hands of

a skilled and <BR>

experienced surgeon (ask your guy how many he does per

month, or per <BR>

year) is a pretty simple surgery. I know my guy told

me he could <BR>

teach me to do it! (an exaggeration, I know.) I was

also pleased that <BR>

he is super careful to protect the nerve, and that

even though one of <BR>

his partners assists with the surgery, he does all his

own bone cuts, <BR>

just to be sure they are done exactly the way he wants

them. In <BR>

short, he is a skilled and careful man who takes great

pride in being <BR>

one of the very best at what he does, and his track

record shows it. <BR>

<BR>

I was also comforted, a bit later in the process, when

I sat in his <BR>

waiting room and saw some of his earlier patients. I

had several <BR>

friends who had had orthognathic surgery done either

by him or one of <BR>

his partners, and all had results that pleased them.

But when I saw a <BR>

rising high school senior who'd had both jaws worked

on two weeks <BR>

before, and she was able to talk, and had no visible

swelling nor <BR>

bruising, and no apparent pain, except from a

weariness of mashed <BR>

potatoes, I knew somehow it would be all right.<BR>

<BR>

He did not let me down.<BR>

<BR>

Cammie <BR>

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& gt; & amp;gt; & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

& gt; & amp;gt; I just recently discovered your group

and thought<BR>

& gt; I'd join to get a & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

& gt; & amp;gt; little insight on my future orthognathic

surgery.<BR>

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& gt; & amp;gt; told me that lower jaw surgery should be

a piece<BR>

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not being<BR>

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[Guest guest]

WELCOME!!!

Glad you decided to join, as for the stress, I am sure just having your DH gone

is a ton of stress.

Let us know how your doing with WW.

Moe

introduction

Hey there,

I just recently joined this list and you all have helped me make a

decision to join WW. I am going to go to my first meeting Saturday

morning. I'm 35 and have been overweight most of my life and obese

for at least 15 years. I am comfortable with who I am and what I look

like, but I want to lose this weight for my own health. I'm also

under a lot of stress lately. I work full time as a paralegal, have

two kids (12 and 8), I have a homemade soap business, and my

husband's National Guard unit was activated in March. He didn't have

to go overseas due to health concerns but he is stationed out of

state. Anyhow, I am looking forward to becoming an active member of

the list and learning from you all.

Lora

[Guest guest]

lori_r wrote:

>that weight in a 12 step program but have tired of that method of weight

>loss. The program I followed has changed significantly and, in my opinion,

>become real punitive and demanding. I cannot seem to get behind that, so I

>joined WW last week.

>

>

Welcome. I was/am a sponsor for a 12 step food based program, and,

too, have left it for WW. I'm finding that WW is incredibly supportive

and not at all judgemental or vendictive, instead I find it to be very

encouraging and emotionally healthy. I just lost another 3 pounds this

week (WI today), and I'm still eating a *LOT* of my favourite foods,

working out daily and in general enjoying life immensly. Blessed Be!

Caroline

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Caroline,

This helps support my efforts to change my life.

by the way, what are the numbers that you and others put below your name?

Re: Introduction

lori_r wrote:

>that weight in a 12 step program but have tired of that method of weight

>loss. The program I followed has changed significantly and, in my opinion,

>become real punitive and demanding. I cannot seem to get behind that, so I

>joined WW last week.

>

>

Welcome. I was/am a sponsor for a 12 step food based program, and,

too, have left it for WW. I'm finding that WW is incredibly supportive

and not at all judgemental or vendictive, instead I find it to be very

encouraging and emotionally healthy. I just lost another 3 pounds this

week (WI today), and I'm still eating a *LOT* of my favourite foods,

working out daily and in general enjoying life immensly. Blessed Be!

Caroline

304/282/180

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Caroline,

This helps support my efforts to change my life.

by the way, what are the numbers that you and others put below your name?

Re: Introduction

lori_r wrote:

>that weight in a 12 step program but have tired of that method of weight

>loss. The program I followed has changed significantly and, in my opinion,

>become real punitive and demanding. I cannot seem to get behind that, so I

>joined WW last week.

>

>

Welcome. I was/am a sponsor for a 12 step food based program, and,

too, have left it for WW. I'm finding that WW is incredibly supportive

and not at all judgemental or vendictive, instead I find it to be very

encouraging and emotionally healthy. I just lost another 3 pounds this

week (WI today), and I'm still eating a *LOT* of my favourite foods,

working out daily and in general enjoying life immensly. Blessed Be!

Caroline

304/282/180

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http://www.geocities.com/carolineatigeress

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Pagan Proverb

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Caroline,

This helps support my efforts to change my life.

by the way, what are the numbers that you and others put below your name?

Re: Introduction

lori_r wrote:

>that weight in a 12 step program but have tired of that method of weight

>loss. The program I followed has changed significantly and, in my opinion,

>become real punitive and demanding. I cannot seem to get behind that, so I

>joined WW last week.

>

>

Welcome. I was/am a sponsor for a 12 step food based program, and,

too, have left it for WW. I'm finding that WW is incredibly supportive

and not at all judgemental or vendictive, instead I find it to be very

encouraging and emotionally healthy. I just lost another 3 pounds this

week (WI today), and I'm still eating a *LOT* of my favourite foods,

working out daily and in general enjoying life immensly. Blessed Be!

Caroline

304/282/180

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Pagan Proverb

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[Guest guest]

lori_r wrote:

>Thanks, Caroline,

>

>This helps support my efforts to change my life.

>

>by the way, what are the numbers that you and others put below your name?

>

> 304/282/180

>

The first one is my upper weight, the weight I had when I started

program (I started on 4/26 of this year), the middle one is my current

weight (as of today), and the third is my goal weight.

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