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Hi . Welcome to the group. We have quite a few mothers of children and

teens with IgAn here. They all seem to do well after the initial flurry of

activity. With a serum creatinine of 1.1, there is probably no serious

permanent damage to the kidneys at this point.

Are you sure that drug isn't Lisinopril?

Pierre

hello

> Hi

> My name is , my son is 17 and was just recently diagnosed

> with this disease, he had a kidney biopsy just before christmas and

> confirmed what the nephrologist had suspected. His kidney functions

> are okay, creat. is 1.1, 24hr urine was 1.6 grams. Neph said that

> his kidneys showed " minimal damage " but didn't give me a percentage

> of kidney function. was stated on ace inhibitor Lipase 5mg a

> day and 4 grams of fish oil a day. He is taking this well,

> considering he's 17 and trying to finish school and get ready for

> college, so Igan is low on his list of priorities, but as his mom I'm

> scared to death, especially since it's all a maybe disease. " he may

> develop end stage renal disease, or he may be fine and just have to

> take meds for the rest of his life " It's very frustrating to try and

> get specific info on what we need to do to keep the disease from

> progressing, or even if there is anything we can do to keep it from

> progressing. It helps to know there is someplace I can go to talk or

> find info. thanks

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Welcome to our group! I am just so sorry your son has been diagnosed

with IgAN though. I was first symptomatic a few years younger than your son

is, and now in my 40's I am still not yet on dialysis.

The facts are that only somewhere between 30-50% of people with IgAN end up

with kidney failure. For the majority, it is a fairly benign condition that

just needs monitoring, and usually ACE inhibitors are taken because they have a

renal protective measure.

A great starting place is our sister site www.igan.ca where you can learn so

much about IgAN from a patient's perspective. Also, feel free to ask any

specific questions.

His lab results look very good, so hopefully that is encouraging to you.

Welcome again!

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,

My son was diagnosed at 13 with almost identical labs as your son's,

although the biopsy report showed " moderate damage " (crescents) which

apparently put him in a moderate risk range for progression to kidney

failure. He was on prednisone for about 15 months and then just on

lisinopril (ACE inhibitor) and fish oil for about 5 years and did fairly

well. Then his functioning took a dramatic drop and within a year and a

half, he was in end-stage renal failure. However, he was able to manage the

disease for two more years before we did a transplant when he was 21. IgAN

is a frustrating disease to try to predict what will happen. There

apparently are several subtypes, some of which are more benign and some of

which are more aggressive. Because at diagnosis my son's kidney function was

normal and amount of protein in urine not dramatically high, his nephs

thought his prognosis was good. However, the amount of scarring (crescents)

noted in the biopsy may have been the better predictor of the actual disease

progression. In your son's case, perhaps the " minimal damage " notation

suggests a more positive prognosis.

Good luck -

Betsy

> Hi

> My name is , my son is 17 and was just recently diagnosed

> with this disease, he had a kidney biopsy just before christmas and

> confirmed what the nephrologist had suspected. His kidney functions

> are okay, creat. is 1.1, 24hr urine was 1.6 grams. Neph said that

> his kidneys showed " minimal damage " but didn't give me a percentage

> of kidney function. was stated on ace inhibitor Lipase 5mg a

> day and 4 grams of fish oil a day. He is taking this well,

> considering he's 17 and trying to finish school and get ready for

> college, so Igan is low on his list of priorities, but as his mom I'm

> scared to death, especially since it's all a maybe disease. " he may

> develop end stage renal disease, or he may be fine and just have to

> take meds for the rest of his life " It's very frustrating to try and

> get specific info on what we need to do to keep the disease from

> progressing, or even if there is anything we can do to keep it from

> progressing. It helps to know there is someplace I can go to talk or

> find info. thanks

>

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I had symptoms of IGAN when I was 17 (protein in urine - mentioned by my

docs many times since), but nobody diagnosed anything until 2001 when I

was 45! I still have pretty good kidney function and my neph is pretty

optimistic that my kidneys will continue to serve for many more years

(now that I keep blood pressure under control, take fish oil daily,

exercise, and eat reasonably).

Relax - your son has a good set of kidneys. Treat them right and they'll

likely treat him right!

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Bill Kuhn - MCSE, MCP, CPP

bkuhn@...

The Kuhn Group, Inc

http://www.kuhngroup.com

A Microsoft Certified Business Solutions Partner

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hello

Hi

My name is , my son is 17 and was just recently diagnosed

with this disease, he had a kidney biopsy just before christmas and

confirmed what the nephrologist had suspected. His kidney functions

are okay, creat. is 1.1, 24hr urine was 1.6 grams. Neph said that

his kidneys showed " minimal damage " but didn't give me a percentage

of kidney function. was stated on ace inhibitor Lipase 5mg a

day and 4 grams of fish oil a day. He is taking this well,

considering he's 17 and trying to finish school and get ready for

college, so Igan is low on his list of priorities, but as his mom I'm

scared to death, especially since it's all a maybe disease. " he may

develop end stage renal disease, or he may be fine and just have to

take meds for the rest of his life " It's very frustrating to try and

get specific info on what we need to do to keep the disease from

progressing, or even if there is anything we can do to keep it from

progressing. It helps to know there is someplace I can go to talk or

find info. thanks

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http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

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Welcome Kate! I also have PCOS with insulin resistance. I also have an underactive thyroid. My endocrinologist recommended South Beach to me and I've lost 35 lbs and am close to my goal weight. It was the combination of SB and daily exercise that helped me lose the weight so rapidly after failing for several years (and not knowing why). It is possible to lose weight with PCOS. By the way, I stopped having "monthly visits" which is why my OB/GYN tested for PCOS and sent me to the endo. After losing the 35 lbs this summer, I went back to normal "monthlies" and they tell me now I'm fertile again. I had no idea what PCOS was or that it was causing me to steadily gain weight for the past 6 years and have fertility issues. All my friends are shocked by how much weight I've lost in a short period of time.

Welcome!

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I understand exactly how you feel. I told my OB/GYN and my brother inlaw (my internist) for years that I couldn't lose weight and everyone kept acting like I wasn't really trying. I read an article on thyroid problems and realized that I had most of the symptoms. I asked my brother inlaw about it and he basically (not rudely though) thought I was a hypochrondriac. Thank goodness my OB/GYN finally recommended some bloodwork that came back high for the thyroid and PCOS related hormones (androgens, etc). Once I realized what was going on with my body (and got my thyroid working again with medicine) I felt so much better about myself and more in control again.

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Thanks for telling your stories guys but can you tellus more about pcos.

PCOS is thought to be caused by insulin resistance. It has a variety of symptoms that women can have few or many of. Women can have cycts on their ovaries, unwanted hair growth on the body, loss of hair on the head, acne (all due to high androgen levels), infertility, and other hormone-related problems. Because of the insulin resistance many women who have PCOS have extra weight and difficulty losing it. It is believed that 5-10% of women in their reproductive years suffer from PCOS.

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Welcome Kate. You will love it here. Hey, regarding the PCOS, I have a friend that has PCOS, tried for a very long time to get pregnant, then read about taking glucaphage for it. She tried it and was preg the first time after trying. Good luck in your weight loss endeavors, and what a great trip to New Zealand. I love their accents!!! I had a friend from there once. Kim G.

Hello

Hello all,My name is Kate, I'm from Iowa. My friend suggested this list to me, I can see already that it's a great helpful source of inspiration and information. I am just getting started on SBD, and have lost 7.5lbs. so far. My goal is two-fold.First, hubby and I are trying to get pregnant, however, I have a condition called PCOS (PolyCystic Ovaries Syndrome) so we have started seeing a fertility specialist. He informed us after our first visit that PCOS is very closely linked to diabetes and that I need to change my diet ASAP....not only for myself, but that it would make the whole process of pregnancy much easier in the long run. I started SBD the day after that doctor visit so that by the time I see him again in mid-January I would already be on my way.Also, my husband is originally from New Zealand and in June my parents, my husband, and I are all flying back to visit his family. I won't have seen my in-laws for about two years when we go, and I would love for them to see a lot "less" of me! :)Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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Hello all,

My name is Kate, I'm from Iowa. My friend suggested this list to me,

I can see already that it's a great helpful source of inspiration and

information. I am just getting started on SBD, and have lost 7.5lbs. so

far. My goal is two-fold.

First, hubby and I are trying to get pregnant, however, I have a condition

called PCOS (PolyCystic Ovaries Syndrome) so we have started seeing a

fertility specialist. He informed us after our first visit that PCOS is

very closely linked to diabetes and that I need to change my diet

ASAP....not only for myself, but that it would make the whole process of

pregnancy much easier in the long run. I started SBD the day after that

doctor visit so that by the time I see him again in mid-January I would

already be on my way.

Also, my husband is originally from New Zealand and in June my parents, my

husband, and I are all flying back to visit his family. I won't have seen

my in-laws for about two years when we go, and I would love for them to see

a lot " less " of me! :)

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Good glad to hear it Kate, and sure hope you get the same results!! Kim

Re: Hello

At 10:48 AM 12/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Hey, regarding the PCOS, I have a friend that has PCOS, tried for a very long time to get pregnant, then read about taking glucaphage for it.

Yup, I am already taking a generic version of glucophage called Metformin and it is supposed to have the same effects. Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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That was worst part for years! Having the doctors tell you to lose

weight, and then every time I'd see them again they acted like I wasn't

trying! It seemed no matter what I did, I could only lose a few pounds.

Every time they acted like I was ignoring them or I just wasn't trying

hard enough, it was so depressing to meet with them an have them act like

they didn't believe I was really was exercising three or more times a

week. I was reading about PCOS and basically diagnosed myself and started

asking my OB/GYN questions and asked her to do some testing where finally

she referred me to an endocrinologist that I have been seeing every 6

months for a couple years now. And even though he was the first one to

recognize my efforts and tell me that it wasn't my fault I couldn't lose

the weight, he would still like to see more progress in the weight loss

area. So that's why I'm finally here...I really like everything I've read

about SBD and know a lot of ppl that it has been very successful for, I

just HATED " jumping on the bandwagon " . But I can see now that

it's not really like that, it's so easy and so good for you that it's

hard not to tell everyone you know about it because you feel so

good.

~ Kate ~

At 10:53 AM 12/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Welcome

Kate! I also have PCOS with insulin resistance. I also have

an underactive thyroid. My endocrinologist recommended South Beach

to me and I've lost 35 lbs and am close to my goal weight. It was

the combination of SB and daily exercise that helped me lose the weight

so rapidly after failing for several years (and not knowing why).

It is possible to lose weight with PCOS. By the way, I stopped

having " monthly visits " which is why my OB/GYN tested for PCOS

and sent me to the endo. After losing the 35 lbs this summer, I

went back to normal " monthlies " and they tell me now I'm

fertile again. I had no idea what PCOS was or that it was causing

me to steadily gain weight for the past 6 years and have fertility

issues. All my friends are shocked by how much weight I've lost in

a short period of time.

Welcome!

:-)

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it

low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by

Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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PCOS is one of those " chicken and egg " kinds of things...they

don't know if the insulin resistance is the cause or the effect of

something else. There is a huge list of possible symptoms, and someone

with PCOS may have many or just one or two. Because there is such a wide

range of possible symptoms, PCOS is often misdiagnosed or missed

completely. One of the most common symptoms is insulin resistance:

Basically, your body doesn't process insulin correctly, and therefore

with extra insulin floating around it can mess with any other chemical in

your body. It screws up your hormones and metabolism. That is why the

most common effects of PCOS are fertility and weight issues. PCOS

(PolyCystic Ovaries Syndrome) gets it's name from the appearance of

multiple cysts on the ovaries (in an ultrasound for example). In fact

they're not actual cysts at all, they're eggs that never fully developed

correctly and therefore were never released from the ovary, they just

kind of " sit " on the outside.

Some of the most recent research in treating PCOS, shows that diabetic

drugs like Glucophage and Metformin (along with diet) can help balance

out the insulin resistance. When the insulin is in check, then the other

chemicals can return to normal and no longer create fertility problems or

prevent weight loss. However, insulin resistance is just one of the many

symptoms, and because they don't really know what causes it as of yet

that's all you can really do....treat the symptoms.

If you really want to know about PCOS, check out the book Polycystic

Ovary Syndrome: The Hidden Epidemic by Dr. S. Thatcher ISBN:

0-944934-25-0 or 0-94434-27-7

It is very very detailed, but it is broken down into very easy to read

sections.

At 12:25 PM 12/30/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks

for telling your stories guys but can you tell

us more about pcos.

PCOS is thought to be

caused by insulin resistance. It has a variety of symptoms that

women can have few or many of. Women can have cycts on their

ovaries, unwanted hair growth on the body, loss of hair on the head, acne

(all due to high androgen levels), infertility, and other hormone-related

problems. Because of the insulin resistance many women who have

PCOS have extra weight and difficulty losing it. It is believed

that 5-10% of women in their reproductive years suffer from

PCOS.

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it

low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and

the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily

without the bad carbs and bad fats.

For more on this WOE please read " The South Beach Diet " by

Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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Hi Kate,

I too have PCOS and I also have 2 children. All it took was metformin for me, and within 2 months of being on it I was pregnant. I wasn't even trying to get pregnant, I was just trying to lower symptoms. With my second pregnancy, it was the same thing....and I was on birth control! Both times I was also low carbing.....

What I wanted to say is that it IS possible......how long have you been on Metformin?

Hello

Hello all,My name is Kate, I'm from Iowa. My friend suggested this list to me, I can see already that it's a great helpful source of inspiration and information. I am just getting started on SBD, and have lost 7.5lbs. so far. My goal is two-fold.First, hubby and I are trying to get pregnant, however, I have a condition called PCOS (PolyCystic Ovaries Syndrome) so we have started seeing a fertility specialist. He informed us after our first visit that PCOS is very closely linked to diabetes and that I need to change my diet ASAP....not only for myself, but that it would make the whole process of pregnancy much easier in the long run. I started SBD the day after that doctor visit so that by the time I see him again in mid-January I would already be on my way.Also, my husband is originally from New Zealand and in June my parents, my husband, and I are all flying back to visit his family. I won't have seen my in-laws for about two years when we go, and I would love for them to see a lot "less" of me! :)Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones-and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this WOE please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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