Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat.

September 29, 2009

Don't let facts stand in your way. You don't know enough to know that

correlation does not equal causation. No doubt it is all the dog eating that's

been holding them back. (!) Not to belabor the point, but China is doing much

better in the global economy than we are--they are the rising power, we are the

declining power; we buy their crap, they don't buy our crap; we owe them money,

they don't owe us money.

A simple internet search will bring up evidence of Aztec innovations in

agriculture, as must be true of any classic " civilization " (might want to google

that, too). Who exactly were they way behind?

Bill

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> I know enough to say it appears that countries that are currently behind also

happen to be eating dogs.ï¿½ Aztecs may have had some advanced skills, but as a

whole culture and even the way the government was ran was primitive.ï¿½

Especially in their agriculture they were way behind.

>

> Now I don't know much about China when it had a benevolent soveriegn.ï¿½ I

don't buy alot of this yin yang crap.ï¿½ There is some truth to it but a lot of

it sounds like a lot of pseudo science.ï¿½ I won't argue with Taoism or

acupuncture, but what I've read of the yin and yang to food I don't buy.ï¿½

Modern China is given way too much credit.ï¿½ If there citizens have better

health than ours it's because they're too poor to afford cake and their into

traditional cooking which tends to be much healthier than our fast food

society.ï¿½ Their healthcare system is probably a joke so they have to be more

conscious of taking care of themselves.

>

September 29, 2009

I'm sorry but this is going to be my last comment in dealing with your

lack of research. All of us are constantly beating against it and you

refuse to actually check facts before saying something stupid.

http://www.aztec-history.com/aztec-farming.html

Aztec's had an awesome farming system. No they didn't have tractors and

monoculture but WOW floating islands built out of reeds to farm in the

marshy areas with complex dams, aquaducts, and gates... Sounds awfully

advanced to me. The Chinese, by the way, farm land that we in the US

wouldn't even consider for grazing.

I can't say that I agree with yin and yang as well but having healed

myself after being on the road to death with Lupus by use of a lot of

their pseudo science, I sure have to give them a bit of credit on the

medical side. Then their current poor farmers look a lot healthier than

a lot of people. And then cake.. oh, so you think they don't know how to

make something sweet.. I think your definition of " poor " is twisted

based on... once again Western Culture. In the US we are utterly spoiled

and if something bad happens most people wouldn't have a clue how to

take care of themselves and would starve. All those " rich " people who

live in the modern houses don't have a clue how to even grow vegetables

let alone prepare food from real things and not out of a box.

But now I wait for your response that is based on your opinion and

limited knowledge of cultures.. however, don't expect me to respond

again unless you actually research it this time.

Holt wrote:

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> I know enough to say it appears that countries that are currently

> behind also happen to be eating dogs. Aztecs may have had some

> advanced skills, but as a whole culture and even the way the

> government was ran was primitive. Especially in their agriculture

> they were way behind.

>

> Now I don't know much about China when it had a benevolent soveriegn.

> I don't buy alot of this yin yang crap. There is some truth to it but

> a lot of it sounds like a lot of pseudo science. I won't argue with

> Taoism or acupuncture, but what I've read of the yin and yang to food

> I don't buy. Modern China is given way too much credit. If there

> citizens have better health than ours it's because they're too poor to

> afford cake and their into traditional cooking which tends to be much

> healthier than our fast food society. Their healthcare system is

> probably a joke so they have to be more conscious of taking care of

> themselves.

>

> > I wonder what age of the Chinese you are talking about.ï¿½ In recent

> times they are one of the biggest examples of what can go wrong with a

> country.ï¿½ Huge population of poor, over populated, oppressive

> government, polution, waste, far worse in that category than America

> or any other country.ï¿½ Behind in every way.ï¿½ Perhaps they did have

> one of the most advanced Governments centuries if not millenia ago,

> but not in recent times.ï¿½ Not knowing my history too well I'll guess

> either it's the poor that eat dogs or it is the modern inferior

> government officials that eat it.

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> >

>

> > Aztecs may have had interesting particularly advanced skills, but as

> a whole culture they were very primitive.ï¿½ Unlike some Native Indian

> cultures I can't say there is any personal attributes of an aztec

> individual I would admire in particular.ï¿½ In my opinion they are a

> terrible example of a culture at that, where there are the people at

> top who get all the meat while most of the population lived

> meagerly.ï¿½ I would not want to be an aztec living in those days.

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September 29, 2009

So based on her super-secret research, we should avoid it, but it is too

impolitic to bring up. Scientific research is not alchemy--if it exists, you can

find it. She is basically reporting hearsay, complete with vague,

pseudoscientific references to unpublished studies and blood chemistry. You

can't get to truth by agglomerating random bits of information.

Bill

>

> Apparently she doesn't want to go into further detail with the research

because it will open up too much debate with the people that farm pigs in the

WAPF community.ï¿½ It's wise that she does recommend to avoid it if you are sick

or healing.ï¿½ Pigs are an essential part to the American diet and they do

contain good health benefits like being easier to digest than other meats and

the fat behind high in vitamin D in pastured pig.ï¿½ People love bacon, pork

chops, and sausage.

>

September 29, 2009

Actually I just researched that one myself (because I knew they had done

amazing things I just didn't realize how amazing), it's staggering what

some cultures achieve! Especially in farming places modern farmers

wouldn't even consider. It's really mind boggling!

Bill wrote:

>

> Don't let facts stand in your way. You don't know enough to know that

> correlation does not equal causation. No doubt it is all the dog

> eating that's been holding them back. (!) Not to belabor the point,

> but China is doing much better in the global economy than we are--they

> are the rising power, we are the declining power; we buy their crap,

> they don't buy our crap; we owe them money, they don't owe us money.

>

> A simple internet search will bring up evidence of Aztec innovations

> in agriculture, as must be true of any classic " civilization " (might

> want to google that, too). Who exactly were they way behind?

>

> Bill

>

> >

> > I know enough to say it appears that countries that are currently

> behind also happen to be eating dogs.ï¿½ Aztecs may have had some

> advanced skills, but as a whole culture and even the way the

> government was ran was primitive.ï¿½ Especially in their agriculture

> they were way behind.

> >

> > Now I don't know much about China when it had a benevolent

> soveriegn.ï¿½ I don't buy alot of this yin yang crap.ï¿½ There is some

> truth to it but a lot of it sounds like a lot of pseudo science.ï¿½ I

> won't argue with Taoism or acupuncture, but what I've read of the yin

> and yang to food I don't buy.ï¿½ Modern China is given way too much

> credit.ï¿½ If there citizens have better health than ours it's because

> they're too poor to afford cake and their into traditional cooking

> which tends to be much healthier than our fast food society.ï¿½ Their

> healthcare system is probably a joke so they have to be more conscious

> of taking care of themselves.

> >

>

September 29, 2009

Here's something I found right away on the aztecs

http://books.google.com/books?id=qZNdwX8O9DUC & pg=PA65 & lpg=PA65 & dq=Aztecs+had+poo\

r+agriculture & source=bl & ots=ZWPy0-0nvw & sig=5fs8rPd9rLFHwiIBJfGhP3Bp7Kk & hl=en & ei=\

Mx7CSrzJK4PWtgPwmu3JAg & sa=X & oi=book_result & ct=result & resnum=1#v=onepage & q=Aztecs\

%20had%20poor%20agriculture & f=false

China sells low quality products and undercuts us. They're rising by force in a

very negative way. You can do that but you sap your people and countries around

you in the long run.

From: Bill <lynchwt@...>

Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat.

Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 7:16 AM

Don't let facts stand in your way. You don't know enough to

know that correlation does not equal causation. No doubt it is all the dog

eating that's been holding them back. (!) Not to belabor the point, but China is

doing much better in the global economy than we are--they are the rising power,

we are the declining power; we buy their crap, they don't buy our crap; we owe

them money, they don't owe us money.

A simple internet search will bring up evidence of Aztec innovations in

agriculture, as must be true of any classic " civilization " (might want to google

that, too). Who exactly were they way behind?

Bill

--- In , Holt <danthemanholt@ ...>

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