Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 and where are you from, Pete? --- Pete Watts wrote: > > On the basis of these right-wing posts, I have > decided that Szasz has > it the wrong way round; it is the existence of > mental health that is a > myth in America. > > > Who feels no need to be anonymous > > " m r " wrote: > original > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12102 > > Personally - I am a registered Libertarian. I > have been told this > country > > was built on Libertarian principles but has now > been downtrodden upon > by the > > likes of our government today. It seems we have > become so > over-governed and > > this reeks of 12Steppism and cultism. > > > > This belief I am investigating for myself is that > government is meant > for > > one thing only -- to protect me from violence and > coercion (force by > threat > > of violence). Wouldn't us folks would be so much > more inclined to > healthy > > living if we had the wonderful activities > naturally available to us > as ages > > ago when this country was founded. Activities that > government has > snatched > > out of our hands and taxed us endlessly and > bloodily to shoddily, > poorly and > > probably really notly provide. For instance -- > charities, schools, > > everything -- except for the protection from > violence and coercion. > > > > I wonder, is it no wonder that I had medicated > myself to living > zombielike > > death out of no place in society to express my > beautiful nature. > Killed by > > a government and system which actually seems to > create the problems > it > > whines about. It's gonna be an interesting > millineum. > > > > There's lots of useful info on the website: > > > > http://lp.org > > > > I'm still new to this, and I have a lot of > research to complete. > Have at it > > in your own ways. I thought this may help with > the discussion about > our > > federal government being such a problem. I do > believe it is a > sympton of a > > huge global issue. One affecting us worldwide. > Kinda like one of > the heads > > of a huge multi-headed beast. And it filters down > to the smallest of > us. I > > know, I got me. > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Want to send money instantly to anyone, anywhere, > anytime? > You can today at X.com - and we'll give you $20 to > try it! Sign > up today at X.com. It's quick, free, & there's no > obligation! > http://click./1/332/1/_/4324/_/949104047/ > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > -- > /VoiceChatPage?listName=12-step-free & m=1 > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Hello Mike, Again I apologize for that comment. I am in the UK. P. mike kraemer wrote: original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12236 > and where are you from, Pete? > > --- Pete Watts wrote: > > > > On the basis of these right-wing posts, I have > > decided that Szasz has > > it the wrong way round; it is the existence of > > mental health that is a > > myth in America. > > > > > > Who feels no need to be anonymous > > > > " m r " wrote: > > original > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12102 > > > Personally - I am a registered Libertarian. I > > have been told this > > country > > > was built on Libertarian principles but has now > > been downtrodden upon > > by the > > > likes of our government today. It seems we have > > become so > > over-governed and > > > this reeks of 12Steppism and cultism. > > > > > > This belief I am investigating for myself is that > > government is meant > > for > > > one thing only -- to protect me from violence and > > coercion (force by > > threat > > > of violence). Wouldn't us folks would be so much > > more inclined to > > healthy > > > living if we had the wonderful activities > > naturally available to us > > as ages > > > ago when this country was founded. Activities that > > government has > > snatched > > > out of our hands and taxed us endlessly and > > bloodily to shoddily, > > poorly and > > > probably really notly provide. For instance -- > > charities, schools, > > > everything -- except for the protection from > > violence and coercion. > > > > > > I wonder, is it no wonder that I had medicated > > myself to living > > zombielike > > > death out of no place in society to express my > > beautiful nature. > > Killed by > > > a government and system which actually seems to > > create the problems > > it > > > whines about. It's gonna be an interesting > > millineum. > > > > > > There's lots of useful info on the website: > > > > > > http://lp.org > > > > > > I'm still new to this, and I have a lot of > > research to complete. > > Have at it > > > in your own ways. I thought this may help with > > the discussion about > > our > > > federal government being such a problem. I do > > believe it is a > > sympton of a > > > huge global issue. One affecting us worldwide. > > Kinda like one of > > the heads > > > of a huge multi-headed beast. And it filters down > > to the smallest of > > us. I > > > know, I got me. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Jim, I could respond to your post, however I decided your simply not worth my time. Louree Re: Fed Gov Screwed Way Up > You're new here aren't you? You want to see some serious rudeness go > way back in the archives and read the veiled threats on my and my wife's > life posted by a loon named . About the worst thing I called your > little miss hell is a libertarian, which is the party she claimed to be > registered under. So Snazy, do you try to be such a stereotypical > thimblewit? Does it take much energy to avoid critical thought? Oh! > better not answer that--might strain something. Lemme guess, your > husband tells you how to vote? > > Oh sorry, I figured if you were going to call me rude I might as well go > ahead and actually be rude. By the way did you agree that Hillary is a > PIG? I don't seem to recall protestation to that bit of obnoxiosness. > I wouldn't have posted anything at all, except I got sick of all the > libertarian bullshit that was going unchallenged. About a year ago > there was so much political stuff being posted that Ken started a second > list for the political discussion of the 12-steps. I would suggest that > unless all you libertarian idiots (i.e., cultist followers of Ayn Rand) > want to see the list erupt into a full scale flame war that you save > your political views for other lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 no problem Pete...I'll have to get out my handy world atlas and take a look at the United Kingdom...embarrassingly I don't know that much about it --- Pete Watts wrote: > > > > Hello Mike, > > Again I apologize for that comment. I am in the UK. > > P. > > mike kraemer wrote: > original > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12236 > > and where are you from, Pete? > > > > --- Pete Watts wrote: > > > > > > On the basis of these right-wing posts, I have > > > decided that Szasz has > > > it the wrong way round; it is the existence of > > > mental health that is a > > > myth in America. > > > > > > > > > Who feels no need to be anonymous > > > > > > " m r " wrote: > > > original > > > > > > article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12102 > > > > Personally - I am a registered Libertarian. I > > > have been told this > > > country > > > > was built on Libertarian principles but has > now > > > been downtrodden upon > > > by the > > > > likes of our government today. It seems we > have > > > become so > > > over-governed and > > > > this reeks of 12Steppism and cultism. > > > > > > > > This belief I am investigating for myself is > that > > > government is meant > > > for > > > > one thing only -- to protect me from violence > and > > > coercion (force by > > > threat > > > > of violence). Wouldn't us folks would be so > much > > > more inclined to > > > healthy > > > > living if we had the wonderful activities > > > naturally available to us > > > as ages > > > > ago when this country was founded. Activities > that > > > government has > > > snatched > > > > out of our hands and taxed us endlessly and > > > bloodily to shoddily, > > > poorly and > > > > probably really notly provide. For instance > -- > > > charities, schools, > > > > everything -- except for the protection from > > > violence and coercion. > > > > > > > > I wonder, is it no wonder that I had medicated > > > myself to living > > > zombielike > > > > death out of no place in society to express my > > > beautiful nature. > > > Killed by > > > > a government and system which actually seems > to > > > create the problems > > > it > > > > whines about. It's gonna be an interesting > > > millineum. > > > > > > > > There's lots of useful info on the website: > > > > > > > > http://lp.org > > > > > > > > I'm still new to this, and I have a lot of > > > research to complete. > > > Have at it > > > > in your own ways. I thought this may help > with > > > the discussion about > > > our > > > > federal government being such a problem. I do > > > believe it is a > > > sympton of a > > > > huge global issue. One affecting us > worldwide. > > > Kinda like one of > > > the heads > > > > of a huge multi-headed beast. And it filters > down > > > to the smallest of > > > us. I > > > > know, I got me. > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > FREE HEALTH and FITNESS ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! > Xpertsite has thousands > of experts who are willing to answer your questions > for FREE. Go to > Xpertsite today and put your mind to rest. > http://click./1/1029/1/_/4324/_/949448062/ > > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- > /vote?listname=12-step-free & m=1 > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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