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Hi

my name is terri and I was diagnosed at the age of 13, how did you find out

she had psc

and does she have any symptoms?

I hope you will find this group help full.

Hope all is well with you and your daughhter

Terri(15)

South Africa

New to this

> Hi

> we are Jim & Elaine and our 18YR OLD daughter Leanne has been

> diagnosed with PSC,colitis & diabeties.

> So this is all new to us.We are trying to find out about psc and

> what the future holds for our daughter.

> She has been attending the Radcliffe Hospital Oxford under

> Doctor Chapman.Who we know is very good with psc patients.

> We hope that by joining this support group we will be able to gain

> information from other sufferers and carers.

>

> hope to hear from you soon

>

> Jim & Elaine

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Hi Phoebe;

Many have commented already about your high-dose ursodiol question,

but I thought I would also reply. In England, " high-dose " ursodiol

is considered to be about 20 mg/kg/day; whereas in the U.S. it is

considered to be about 25 - 30 mg/kg/day. My son is currently on a

dose of about 24 mg/kg/day.

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Gastroenterology. 2001 Oct;121(4):900-7.

A preliminary trial of high-dose ursodeoxycholic acid in primary

sclerosing cholangitis.

SA, Bansi DS, Hunt N, Von Bergmann K, Fleming KA, Chapman RW.

Department of Gastroenterology, Oxford Radcliffe Hospital, Oxford,

England, UK.

BACKGROUND & AIMS: Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) is used for the

treatment of cholestatic liver diseases including primary biliary

cirrhosis (PBC) for which it has a positive effect on laboratory

values, may delay the development of liver failure and prolong the

transplant-free disease period. Standard doses of UDCA (8-15 mg/kg

daily) have been shown to be ineffective in the treatment of primary

sclerosing cholangitis (PSC). We report on the findings (clinical,

biochemical, histological, and cholangiographic) and side effects of

a 2-year double-blind placebo-controlled preliminary study of high-

dose UDCA in PSC patients. METHODS: Twenty-six patients with PSC were

randomized to high-dose (20 mg/kg daily) UDCA or placebo.

Cholangiography and liver biopsy were performed at entry and after 2

years. Symptoms, clinical signs, and liver biochemical tests were

recorded at 3 monthly intervals. RESULTS: High-dose UDCA did not

influence symptoms, but there was a significant improvement in liver

biochemistry (serum alkaline phosphatase, P = 0.03; gamma-glutamyl

transferase, P = 0.01) and a significant reduction in progression in

cholangiographic appearances (P = 0.015) and liver fibrosis as

assessed by disease staging (P = 0.05). In the treatment group, a

significant increase in total bile acids and saturation with UDCA

>70% confirmed patient compliance. No significant side effects were

reported. CONCLUSIONS: High-dose UDCA may be of clinical benefit in

PSC, but trials with a larger number of participants and of longer

duration are required to establish whether the effect of high-dose

UDCA on liver biochemistry, histology, and cholangiography in

patients with PSC is translated into improved long-term survival.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 11606503

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Am J Gastroenterol. 2001 May;96(5):1558-62.

High-dose ursodeoxycholic acid as a therapy for patients with primary

sclerosing cholangitis.

Harnois DM, Angulo P, nsen RA, Larusso NF, Lindor KD.

Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Mayo Clinic and

Foundation, Rochester, Minnesota 55905, USA.

OBJECTIVES: To assess the tolerability and efficacy of high-dose (25-

30 mg/kg per day) ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) in patients with

primary sclerosing cholangitis (PSC). METHODS: Thirty patients with

PSC were enrolled in this pilot study and treated for 1 yr. Changes

in the Mayo risk score at 1 yr of treatment and projected survival at

4 yr were compared with that observed in patients randomized to

placebo (n = 52) or UDCA (n = 53) at a dose of 13-15 mg/kg per day.

RESULTS: A marked improvement in serum alkaline phosphatase activity

(1265+/-172 vs 693+/-110 U/L, p < 0.001), AST (161+/-037 vs 77+/-13

U/L, p = 0.001), albumin (4.0+/-0.1 vs 4.2+/-0.1 g/dl, p = 0.03), and

total bilirubin (1.6+/-0.3 vs 1.3+/-0.2 mg/dl, p = 0.1) occurred at 1

yr of therapy with high-dose UDCA. Changes in the Mayo risk score

after 1 yr of treatment were significantly different among the three

groups (p < 0.001), and these changes would be translated into a

significantly different expected survival at 4 yr (p = 0.05). This

expected survival at 4 yr was significantly different between placebo

and the dose of 25-30 mg/kg per day (p = 0.04), but not between

placebo and the dose of 13-15 mg/kg per day (p = 0.4). High-dose UDCA

was well tolerated. CONCLUSIONS: UDCA at a dose of 25-30 mg/kg per

day may be of benefit for patients with PSC, and this regimen

deserves further evaluation in a long-term, randomized, placebo-

controlled trial.

PMID: 11374699

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Best regards,

Dave

>

> When you say " high dose " ursodiol, how many mg/day are you talking

about?

> Phoebe

> Re: New to this

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> Hi Jim and Elaine;

>

> Welcome! I am so sorry to hear about Leanne's diagnosis of PSC,

> colitis & diabetes. I think I know what you must be going

through, as

> our 18-year old son, , was diagnosed with PSC and

ulcerative

> colitis last summer.

>

> On the positive side, you have found the right support group to

seek

> advice and help, and you are very fortunate to be under the care

of

> Dr. Chapman at Radcliffe ... he is very highly regarded.

Was

> Leanne initially diagnosed because of elevated serum liver

enzymes,

> or other symptoms? As Dr. Chapman may have explained to you, the

rate

> of disease progression is highly variable in different patients

and

> it could be many, many years before Leanne experiences severe

> symptoms from PSC. Some medications may be helpful. Our son was

> initially diagnosed because of elevated serum liver enzymes. He

is

> currently asymptomatic, and since being placed on high-dose

> ursodeoxycholic acid (ursodiol) his serum liver enzyme levels

> (alanine aminotransferase (ALT), and aspartate aminotransferase

> (AST)) have nearly normalized. Dr. Chapman is one of the main

> proponents of high-dose urodiol in the treatment of PSC patients.

> was also placed on Asacol (mesalamine; a 5-aminosalicyclic

> acid (5-ASA) compound) for ulcerative colitis, and we believe

that

> this is helping him more efficiently assimilate food. Has Leanne

also

> been prescribed ursodiol and asacol?

>

> Like you I have been trying to find out all I can about PSC and

what

> the future may hold. I've put together a web site that gives

links to

> a large number of web sites and research abstracts, and this may

save

> you some time searching the internet?

>

> http://home.insightbb.com/~rhodesdavid/

>

> If its any consolation, there have been many advances in the

> understanding of the genetic basis of these diseases in the last

few

> years, and this is leading to new treatments. Perhaps 10 years

from

> now the medical advances will result in much more effective

therapy?

> It is this thought that keeps me going and avidly reading the

> literature concerning the latest advances.

>

> If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Dave

>

> (father of (18 yr); dx PSC 07/03; dx UC 08/03)

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 Hello Jim / Elaine,

Sorry to hear about your daughter's diagnosis. I am a fellow sufferer ( psc / uc

) living in London. This can can

quite overwhelming at first but the bottom line is that you cannot put your life

on hold bacause of what might

be. Your daughter still has her whole life ahead of her and I know of other

sufferers that have lived with the

complaint for 35 years before consideration for tx.

You may find the following links useful for reference :

http://www.medicinenet.com/Primary_Sclerosing_Cholangitis/index.htm

http://www.gicare.com/pated/ecdlv35.htm

Tony B ( uk)

psc 98, uc 99

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Hi

we are Jim & Elaine and our 18YR OLD daughter Leanne has been

diagnosed with PSC,colitis & diabeties.

So this is all new to us.We are trying to find out about psc and

what the future holds for our daughter.

She has been attending the Radcliffe Hospital Oxford under

Doctor Chapman.Who we know is very good with psc patients.

We hope that by joining this support group we will be able to gain

information from other sufferers and carers.

hope to hear from you soon

Jim & Elaine

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