Re: diabetes books (was Trash your TV (was Bananas/fruit))

[Guest guest]

here's two very good ones, both paperback:

The First Year: Type 2 Diabetes (Gretchen Becker)--my personal fav; and

Taking Control of Your Diabetes ( V. Edelman, MD). I also just

purchased: The Diabetic's Healthy Exchanges Cookbook (Jo M. Lund) is a

great cookbook (i have not tested the recipes, so i can't say the recipes are

great, but they look simple, non complicated gourmet stuff, and have all the

nutritional information listed). pat

> belong to

> is that we have a rule that whatever book we propose has to be paperback,

> to

> keep the cost down. I'm not sure that's possible with diabetic books...

> the

>

[Guest guest]

a friend of mine wrote a book, and i do know that there was a problem out

there, somewhere, about her copyrighted material, and some lists saying

what's said there is copyrighted, and all that. i also know that one

particular website (general recipes) gets very nasty about anyone sharing her

recipes on a list. in addition, good old Martha has shut down lots

of website for just using one of her recipes.

i have a website and i use recipes from a few other sites. i had to jump

thru hoops to use just a few; sign papers; and i would suggest that even

thought it would be interesting to share pages from someone's book, it might

cause the listowner headaches, legal problems, etc. i worked for lawyers

for 30 years, and know nothing about the copyright laws, except that they are

very tricky.

i can also tell you that, as an artist with copyrighted material, i am fierce

about anyone copying my designs. and a friend is willing to pay over $35,000

a year to protect her copyrighted materials protected.

quoting recipes would probably not cause problems on a list; quoting major

portions of a book probably would. safer to get it from a library and just

review it online. pat

> Does anyone

> know how much detailed book content we can share online before it becomes a

> legal problem? Just wondering. I would love the have ongoing book

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy wrote:

> have you heard of the cities who have chosen a book that the whole

> city reads?

no, but I agree, what a great idea!

How 'bout if we do that here on the list? Pat mentioned sharing books with

each other. I stopped posting for a while to find some of the recommended

reading. Had a lot of questions.

If we did that here, I would want to start with the " Schwarzbein Principle " .

(am not sure that is spelled right, sorry) Because I'm interested in her

saying that artificial sweeteners actually raise BG levels. I stopped

drinking diet drinks when I read that, but have started again.

ummmmmmm, maybe we couldn't do that though. Would it be legal to quote an

author in a public situation without their written consent? Does anyone

know how much detailed book content we can share online before it becomes a

legal problem? Just wondering. I would love the have ongoing book

discussions about different diabetes books. What a help that would be. But

maybe doing it online is not the same as a city choosing a book for everyone

to read. What do you think?

Sedra

[Guest guest]

How 'bout if we do that here on the list?

Sedra,

Not sure it would work with everyone reading the same diabetic book, as we

come from different backgrounds in our thinking... some like high carb, and

others like low carb. In addition, I know that I've already bought a couple

books -- the Bernstein book and one on the glycemic index -- and they were a

little expensive... one thing I like about the online book club I belong to

is that we have a rule that whatever book we propose has to be paperback, to

keep the cost down. I'm not sure that's possible with diabetic books... the

two I bought were only in hard cover. I think the book the city picks to

read is always in paperback too... the one that -- I believe it was

Denver -- was reading was _To Kill a Mockingbird_.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

Sandy wrote:

> Not sure it would work ...

On second thought, let's not. (g)

Sedra

[Guest guest]

Help! No time to read any more books! I have my own book group that meets

monthly and some of the books are LONG (last month's was the Grahm

book, " Personal History " - wow! --) and weekly New Yorkers and Time magazine

that just keep comin'...and three quilt monthlies...and the daily

newpaper...and whatever other book I can squeeze in there...plus fulltime

job...three hours at least a day on my diabetes lists...daily

execise...quilting...oh, and some volunteer work. I already get up at 5:30

a.m. to squeeze this all in, smile. No wonder I don't have time to cook

elaborate meals...or even hardly think of food!

Vicki

In a message dated 08/03/2002 1:12:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

sandypaws5@... writes:

> Not sure it would work with everyone reading the same diabetic book, as we

> come from different backgrounds in our thinking... some like high carb, and

> others like low carb.

[Guest guest]

I don't spend a lot of time planning meals any longer...I sorta have it down

to a System. I have two standard breakfasts and I alternate them...one is an

egg-sausage breakfast with tea and a slice of lowcarb toast; the other is

lowcarb Protein Crunch cereal and tea. And sometimes I make a hot cereal

with ricotta cheese, flax seed, ground nuts and DaVinci Syrup. Occasionally

I have a lowcarb Protein Shake.

For lunch I always have some kind of homemade soup and a tortilla (lowcarb

of course) rollup with Different Things inside, like deli roast beef, ham or

pastrami...or tuna salad...you get the idea. I make a big batch of a

different kind of soup about once a week. During the summer I have cold soup.

This week it's V-8 mixed with plain yogurt and a little olive oil. Quite

good and easy. Sometimes it's a little more elaborate.

For dinners I have about 4-5 ounces of meat/chicken/fish, two veggies, a

large salad and some ricotta mixed with yogurt and DaVinci syrup and a few

berries. The variety comes in the change of veggies or main dish. It's not

elaborate but it's low effort and moderately low carb. I nuke most of my

veggies and I either nuke the meat/chicken/fish or use my Foreman

grill.

Vicki

In a message dated 08/03/2002 6:30:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

sandypaws5@... writes:

> Vicki,

> For me, not having time to even think about food can work two ways....

> one, I may not eat much at all, but two, I may eat whatever I can get my

> hands on, and it's not always the right thing. It takes forever for me to

> plan healthy, good tasting meals.

> Sandy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I already get up at 5:30

a.m. to squeeze this all in, smile. No wonder I don't have time to cook

elaborate meals...or even hardly think of food!

Vicki,

For me, not having time to even think about food can work two ways....

one, I may not eat much at all, but two, I may eat whatever I can get my

hands on, and it's not always the right thing. It takes forever for me to

plan healthy, good tasting meals.

Sandy