Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Janie and and anoyone else who may know, If my adrenal gland is not working properly wouldn't the thyroid medicine actually cause harm if I increase my dose even higher than 2 grain. I understand that unless I know what shape my adrenal gland is to help with the t4-t3 process I should not go up on my dosage. The increased dosage will make me feel even worse and can cause greater complications without the adrenal gland being in proper balance right or wrong? I read in the files here on this site that too much tyroid medication without an adrenal balance could actually kill you. I believe it was in the second article in the files folder. have you heard of this. Since I have never been on any medications before I am somewhat fearful of overdoing it. please advise - I am totally exhausted again and somewhat feeling like I am comming down off of a no-doze or a caffine pill (sort-of) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I haven't read that particular article, but I have read many that say that, if the adrenals are exhausted, and you can't make enough cortisol to keep up with a finally normal metabolism, you will probably have some uncomfortable symptoms, that may feel like hypothyroidism. That's because, when the thyroid hormone starts stepping up things to where they ordinarily should be, the adrenal gland has to work double time to turn it over, and you would feel more exhausted. The thing is that you must begin to resolve the adrenal problem first, in this case, and work on the thyroid at the same time. I suspect this in myself, but haven't tested it. I inched my Armour up about a month at atime, and it took me much longer to get to 120 mgs than a lot of people took to get up to 300. It's the cost of the testing for adrenal substances that is stopping me from finding out. When I do it, it's going to be with salivatest.com, but for what I intend to have it will be around $300 or maybe a little less. Time to get tested? Re: Question on How much is too much thyroid medication Janie and and anoyone else who may know, If my adrenal gland is not working properly wouldn't the thyroid medicine actually cause harm if I increase my dose even higher than 2 grain. I understand that unless I know what shape my adrenal gland is to help with the t4-t3 process I should not go up on my dosage. The increased dosage will make me feel even worse and can cause greater complications without the adrenal gland being in proper balance right or wrong? I read in the files here on this site that too much tyroid medication without an adrenal balance could actually kill you. I believe it was in the second article in the files folder. have you heard of this. Since I have never been on any medications before I am somewhat fearful of overdoing it. please advise - I am totally exhausted again and somewhat feeling like I am comming down off of a no-doze or a caffine pill (sort-of) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Hi . It's such a hard call, and so individual. There are many of us who never needed adrenal support, and did fine raising the dose. A very small minority found that even the smallest dose of Armour gave them terrible reactions. Others are in the middle--they simply added adrenal support and liked the results!! If you have poor adrenal reserve, it will become obvious!! And in most folks, it's not severe adrenal issues. It's only enough to make it obvious i.e. a raised dose doesn't seem to work, or a very small dose causes problems. You haven't had the latter. The former may seem like your case on 2 grains, but it could also be the case that you are simply not on enough Armour! The dangerous part with thyroid support is if you have severe poor adrenal reserve. And there ARE some signs of that before you find out with thyroid support. There are symptoms like having very low blood pressure, or an extreme difference in blood pressure between lying down and sitting up (where it would rise). Or, your pupils responding slowly or oddly to light. Or, strange reflexes, especially in the heel. Or, a strange sounding heart. Do you have any of these?? And the bottom line is always that you can get on adrenal support like Isocort or others right now before you raise. Or you can raise and just see---you may do fine. Hope that helps. Janie ) > If my adrenal gland is not working properly wouldn't the thyroid > medicine actually cause harm if I increase my dose even higher than > 2 grain. > please advise - I am totally exhausted again and somewhat feeling > like I am comming down off of a no-doze or a caffine pill (sort- of) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 , Just for your info..... The test I did (prog, est, test, DHEA, and diurnal cortisol) cost $240 on salivatest.com (ZTR Lab). Each test is $30. I had 8, as the diurnal cortisol is 4 separate levels. IMHO....worth every penny. Janet > I haven't read that particular article, but I have read many that say that, if the adrenals are exhausted, and you can't make enough cortisol to keep up with a finally normal metabolism, you will probably have some uncomfortable symptoms, that may feel like hypothyroidism. That's because, when the thyroid hormone starts stepping up things to where they ordinarily should be, the adrenal gland has to work double time to turn it over, and you would feel more exhausted. The thing is that you must begin to resolve the adrenal problem first, in this case, and work on the thyroid at the same time. I suspect this in myself, but haven't tested it. I inched my Armour up about a month at atime, and it took me much longer to get to 120 mgs than a lot of people took to get up to 300. It's the cost of the testing for adrenal substances that is stopping me from finding out. When I do it, it's going to be with salivatest.com, but for what I intend to have it will be around $300 or maybe a little less. Time to get tested? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 I know, I went to the site and found out, but what I saw was that the $240 test only included one estrogen, the estradiol, I'm thinking. That's why I said mine was probably going to be about $300 because I won't go without having all 3 estrogens tested at the same time. Re: Question on How much is too much thyroid medication , Just for your info..... The test I did (prog, est, test, DHEA, and diurnal cortisol) cost $240 on salivatest.com (ZTR Lab). Each test is $30. I had 8, as the diurnal cortisol is 4 separate levels. IMHO....worth every penny. Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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