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Val and others who can help, my labs were just faxed

to me. I have an appointment on Tuesday and need to be

prepared for my visit.

Now, I took this blood test at 8:15am without taking

my morning cortisol or Armour and no seasalt for 2

days. I've been at 27.5mg of HC for several weeks and

at 120mg of Armour for 6 weeks.

Aldosterone: 22 (4-31)

Cortisol am: 2.7 (4-22)

FT4: 1 (.8-1.8)

FT3: 351 (230-420)

TSH: .02

It seems like everytime I increase HC, it works for a

few weeks and I feel good but then I begin feeling

crappy again. The past five days, I've been feeling

almost as bad as before I first began HC and Armour

excpet for today, I feel fine at a daily average temp

of 97.8 and have been averageing 98.0 for a week which

is what it was prior to begining hormones!! I thought

I would feel a little something from each Armour and

HC dose but I'm feeling absolutely nothing

again...BAFFLED!

Here are my initial SALIVA results from Diagnos Techs

a year ago before I took anything:

7-8am = 12 (13-24)

11-12 = 7 (5-10)

4-5pm = 8 (3-8)

11-midnight = 4 (1-4)

Cortisol burden: 31 (23-42)

DHEA = 4 (3-10)

TSH = >600 (Borderline high: 86-120)

L-Thyroxine = .25 (normal .17-.42)

Triiodo-thyronine = .22 (borderline low .21-.27)

(normal .28-1.10)

Thyroid Microsomal Ab, SigA = Positive<<

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> this is exactly what would happen to me with

> Armour. no matter

> the dose o HC or Armou =r it was never right. Have

> you had RT3 tested?

> Or any recent thyroid labs?

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Aldosterone: 22 (4-31)

Cortisol am: 2.7 (4-22)

FT4: 1 (.8-1.8)

FT3: 351 (230-420)

As I have tried to explain to people, while taking HC cortisol testing is NOT

accurate. What you got here was your body waiting for it's AM HC dose. The onyl

thing I would conclude from this is oyu have NO adrenal reaserve so in other

words, even with ACTH high which it would have been for this test, your adrenals

are not able to make almost ANY cortiosl on their own. Your aldosterone looks

good! Bu tthis tells me it is unlikely you will be gettign off HC soon if ever

and you might do even better on Medrol. Your thyroid labs are STILL showing hypo

but at leats it looks as if the T3 is not building in the blood and what you are

taking is able to get to the cells, you are just not taking enough of it yet.

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But Val, my initial saliva tests before beginning anything showed stage 3 or 4,

so how can this be that I suddenly have no reserves especially if I've been on

HC for 7 months? I should feel a bit better after taking my doses of HC and

Armour, why don't I? I wouldn't know what time of the day I would need to add

more Armour. Should I increase my Armour because it does look like I'm hypo with

a low T4 too? Is it necessary to have my RT3 checked?

Thanks,

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Aldosterone: 22 (4-31)

Cortisol am: 2.7 (4-22)

FT4: 1 (.8-1.8)

FT3: 351 (230-420)

As I have tried to explain to people, while taking HC cortisol testing is NOT

accurate. What you got here was your body waiting for it's AM HC dose. The onyl

thing I would conclude from this is oyu have NO adrenal reaserve so in other

words, even with ACTH high which it would have been for this test, your adrenals

are not able to make almost ANY cortiosl on their own. Your aldosterone looks

good! Bu tthis tells me it is unlikely you will be gettign off HC soon if ever

and you might do even better on Medrol. Your thyroid labs are STILL showing hypo

but at leats it looks as if the T3 is not building in the blood and what you are

taking is able to get to the cells, you are just not taking enough of it yet.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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I don't klnow it took me 20 months to be able to taper off the first

time and then a major stress and an all winter illness seems ot have

taken my adrenals pretty well out. So I have no answers. Except I know

the first time I wasted 10 months on a too low dose and probably caused

more harm and certainly no healing. Have you done the temp graph per

www.drrind.com to see if your temps are stable enough for a thyroid

raise? That wouldbe my suggestion. If you are doing a bare balancing act

wiht JUST barely enough cortisol to get through your day more thyroid

may tip the scales to just build in the blood. That is what I was doing.

then when I got on enough cortisll it was almost immediate improvement.

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Temps have not fluctuated by more than .2 degrees for the past five days, so I

will increase my Armour but as I said, I don't feel a whole lot with 2 grains

now, so do you think Cytomel would be benefit me more?

wrote: I don't klnow it

took me 20 months to be able to taper off the first

time and then a major stress and an all winter illness seems ot have

taken my adrenals pretty well out. So I have no answers. Except I know

the first time I wasted 10 months on a too low dose and probably caused

more harm and certainly no healing. Have you done the temp graph per

www.drrind.com to see if your temps are stable enough for a thyroid

raise? That wouldbe my suggestion. If you are doing a bare balancing act

wiht JUST barely enough cortisol to get through your day more thyroid

may tip the scales to just build in the blood. That is what I was doing.

then when I got on enough cortisll it was almost immediate improvement.

--

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Val - Could it be that the HC has shut down my body’s normal cortisol production

and invalidating the 8am cortisol test even though I didn't take my morning

test? In another words, would anybody taking the same dose as I, have a very low

am cortisol reading?

wrote:

Val and others who can help, my labs were just faxed

to me. I have an appointment on Tuesday and need to be

prepared for my visit.

Now, I took this blood test at 8:15am without taking

my morning cortisol or Armour and no seasalt for 2

days. I've been at 27.5mg of HC for several weeks and

at 120mg of Armour for 6 weeks.

Aldosterone: 22 (4-31)

Cortisol am: 2.7 (4-22)

FT4: 1 (.8-1.8)

FT3: 351 (230-420)

TSH: .02

It seems like everytime I increase HC, it works for a

few weeks and I feel good but then I begin feeling

crappy again. The past five days, I've been feeling

almost as bad as before I first began HC and Armour

excpet for today, I feel fine at a daily average temp

of 97.8 and have been averageing 98.0 for a week which

is what it was prior to begining hormones!! I thought

I would feel a little something from each Armour and

HC dose but I'm feeling absolutely nothing

again...BAFFLED!

Here are my initial SALIVA results from Diagnos Techs

a year ago before I took anything:

7-8am = 12 (13-24)

11-12 = 7 (5-10)

4-5pm = 8 (3-8)

11-midnight = 4 (1-4)

Cortisol burden: 31 (23-42)

DHEA = 4 (3-10)

TSH = >600 (Borderline high: 86-120)

L-Thyroxine = .25 (normal .17-.42)

Triiodo-thyronine = .22 (borderline low .21-.27)

(normal .28-1.10)

Thyroid Microsomal Ab, SigA = Positive<<

--- wrote:

> this is exactly what would happen to me with

> Armour. no matter

> the dose o HC or Armou =r it was never right. Have

> you had RT3 tested?

> Or any recent thyroid labs?

>

> --

> Artistic

> Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

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