Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 remember this note? Who was this prestigious DR? Endo's response to our self-medicating, and our preference for Armour I got a very interesting " heads up " from the beauty board I was talking about recently. Remember the nice lady who had a relative who is a prestigious endocrinologist? He emailed her back an answer to our concerns and our preference for Armour plus the few of us who are self-medicating... I thought it was quite interesting and wanted to share it with the group. I have edited out name information and anything else that I worry might be invasion of privacy stuff. The stuff I am including is just kind of basic, " this is the offical prestigious endocrinologist position. " It was kind of her to try to warn me and others. I'm going to pretend I didn't see it, though, because I don't want to get into a debate about prestigious endocrinologists verus doctors such as Dr. Lowe and Dr. Derry. I respect her for trying to warn us that we are doing the wrong thing, but ultimately we each have to take responsibility for our own health and I truly honestly feel that the standard prestigious endocrinologist stance is wrong (at least for some of us.) I would love to hear what everyone's views are regarding this warning, and if it changes anyone's mind about taking Armour, about treatment, etc. Without further ado, here is the warning from the official endocrinologist: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX his response to my question ...I have some literature if you would be interested on 'borderline' TSH levels and what this means if anything.There is debate whether a TSH 5-9 has any benefit if treated Well within the normal range (1-5) is even dicier.Philosophically this is an attempt to redefine what is normal but that could go for anything TSH, blood pressure, hemoglobin. There is a range of such in well people. The other issue is that armour thyroid is NOT what would be administered even if a trial was undertaken. So I don't know where this came from but send it back. HTH. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 >There is debate whether a TSH 5-9 has any benefit if treated. Well >within the normal range (1-5) is even dicier. UH, MY TSH hovered around 2 when I WAS SICK AS HECK and getting ready to apply for disability!!!!!! If the above was stated by a prestigious Endocrinologist, I SHOULD BE a prestigious Endocrinologist because I KNOW MORE THAN HE DOES!!!!!!!! Janie, gnashing of teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 HTH? Who was it? Endo's response to our self-medicating, and our preference for Armour I got a very interesting " heads up " from the beauty board I was talking about recently. Remember the nice lady who had a relative who is a prestigious endocrinologist? He emailed her back an answer to our concerns and our preference for Armour plus the few of us who are self-medicating... I thought it was quite interesting and wanted to share it with the group. I have edited out name information and anything else that I worry might be invasion of privacy stuff. The stuff I am including is just kind of basic, " this is the offical prestigious endocrinologist position. " It was kind of her to try to warn me and others. I'm going to pretend I didn't see it, though, because I don't want to get into a debate about prestigious endocrinologists verus doctors such as Dr. Lowe and Dr. Derry. I respect her for trying to warn us that we are doing the wrong thing, but ultimately we each have to take responsibility for our own health and I truly honestly feel that the standard prestigious endocrinologist stance is wrong (at least for some of us.) I would love to hear what everyone's views are regarding this warning, and if it changes anyone's mind about taking Armour, about treatment, etc. Without further ado, here is the warning from the official endocrinologist: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX his response to my question ...I have some literature if you would be interested on 'borderline' TSH levels and what this means if anything.There is debate whether a TSH 5-9 has any benefit if treated Well within the normal range (1-5) is even dicier.Philosophically this is an attempt to redefine what is normal but that could go for anything TSH, blood pressure, hemoglobin. There is a range of such in well people. The other issue is that armour thyroid is NOT what would be administered even if a trial was undertaken. So I don't know where this came from but send it back. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 This is when I finally got confidence in knowledge (knowledge that I have gleaned from others in my position, lol! And researches), when I was staring a local endo in the face more than a yr ago, with him telling me " Once thyroid disease is diagnosed, it harly ever changes " . Hehe, Haha! What a rip!! He even said that before the meagor little lab tests he gave came back, with no antibodies testing, I might add, with a TSH of almost 10, after it steadily rising from a 3.0 to 5.5, then upward from there. This was when I made the decision to learn even more and wing it on my own. I'm not saying there aren't good docs out there, but they aren't directly in my area, and they're definitely not in my city. I'm not saying that I feel extremely wonderful, but I certainly feel better than I did for about 3-4 yrs, plus my body temp finally stabilized in the last few wks, and my body isn't all stiff and sore, and I can get out of be, plus being able to think, without everyone's voice seeming far away and in a dream. From 1254 mcgs of worthless T4 for years to 120 mgs of Armour in approximately 7 months. I haven't done too bad on my own. Re: Endo's response to our self-medicating, and our preference for Armour >There is debate whether a TSH 5-9 has any benefit if treated. Well >within the normal range (1-5) is even dicier. UH, MY TSH hovered around 2 when I WAS SICK AS HECK and getting ready to apply for disability!!!!!! If the above was stated by a prestigious Endocrinologist, I SHOULD BE a prestigious Endocrinologist because I KNOW MORE THAN HE DOES!!!!!!!! Janie, gnashing of teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I've been getting mine from MyRxForLess, which I'm thinking, is posted on the site. The last time I ordered, they only had the 60 mg tabs and the 120 mg tabs left, due to Forest Pharmaceuticals backlog of demand. I and many others wrote or called Forest, and they are saying that the problem will be solved very soon and the demand caught up. More and more people are converting to Armour. IAS (International Antiaging Systems) has it, but I noticed that they had it only in the 15 mg and the 60 mg capsules, rather than the tabs that can be split. If you go onto the thyroid site in links, I'm thinking that these are posted there. I had ordered an extra bottle the last time, from MyRx, so I'm not in trouble yet. I have to split my doses, so I didn't opt for the capsules, but I will, if I have to. RE: Re: Endo's response to our self-medicating, and our preference for Armour Hi , I am new here, and this is my first question (I have many more :-)) I have been on Armour for about a year, after 10 or so years on synthroid. I had to talk my endo into it. He flatly said Armour didn't work, but went ahead and prescribed it for me anyway. Where are you able to get it on your own? I checked into international pharmacy, but they only ship out of the US. Any place else available? Thanks, nne _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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