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With Lorrain's posts on crossbite and palate expanders I'm wondering

why I have't seen anything on the effect of plagio on the bite

(jaw/palate). Garrett (9 mo's) has not been banded/helmeted...we've

been repositioning. His doc doesn't think his head shape is bad

enough to warrant banding but I am having doubts. Anyway, I pointed

out to him that Garrett has what looked like an uneven palate giving

him a slanted gumline...doc examined and said it was a bulge in the

gums not a palate un-evenness. I suggested to the doc that this

might be a result of his plagio and he told me no, just a bulge in

his gums. Now he's cutting his incisors and his eye tooth on the

bulging side. Because of the bulge/slant it looks like the tooth is

coming in and laying over the gum rather than coming down like a

regular tooth. Hopefully I'm just paranoid and not used to seeing

babys teeth come in but I'm a little worried. We will see doc

Friday for his 9 month exam and I'll ask him about it again. Is

there anything out on the net about what I may be seeing? Is this

related to the plagio maybe?

& Garrett

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lorraine " <LorraineSonn@h...>

wrote:

> I will take a pic of her bite today and post it in the photos

> section and try to find a internet pic of the palette exspander.

Its

> a small thing that is glued into their molers in her case baby

molar

> and a key is used to exspand and I'm guessing in her case one side

> will be exspander more than the other to make it symetrical. The

> reason why I posted was because this Othodontist exsplained to me

> that because I came very young at 5 years old and I could wait 2

plus

> years it was better to treat early because her molers were uneven

> high up in her gums in the xray and they wouldent probably fall

down

> correctly as her molars grew in and even worse that may push into

> other teeth up there and decay them. He told me if Mackenzie was

his

> daughter he would start tretment now because there was no reason

to

> wait as it will not correct itself and if we start early we can

avoid

> other problems and maybe avoid braces altogether. He actually told

me

> what I was guessing would be the treatment after knowing what my

> sister in law went through with her kids with regular problems

(not

> Plagio) but a jaw that stuck out and I'm thrilled this wont

involve

> jaw surgery. If we dident do this Mackenzies bite would be so

wrong

> it would be neglect. The bonus to all this is her tilted jaw wont

be

> tilted after this and this is the best news about the Plagio I've

got

> since we used the Doc band 4 years ago. I dont believs her chin

will

> be symetrical but her assures me it will so I will update you all

as

> we progress.

> This is not covered with any Insurance and I was told with a

> older child 7 + that this is harder and with second teeth to

consider

> its a bigger job so hes giving me a 50% discount as he feels it

will

> will in a month of turning the key and she'll be monotered with it

in

> her mouth for a year and then have it removed when the bone grows

in.

> The reg price for phase one tretment.. pre braces in $3200 and

braces

> are $5800. I live in one of the richest places in the USA (Boca

> Raton, Palm beach county Florida.. I'm one of the poorer

> residents...lol..) and I know I could travel and get a cheaper

deal

> but after consulting with Dr Kawa I feel so good about it I'm not

> going for a second opinion. I felt this way too at the Cranial

Tech

> office and you know when someone is right and good and it will be

ok.

> Dr Kawa was recommended frpm Dr Stilnicki and my daughter peas and

> her dentist and we have alot of Orthos in our town as most kids

get

> them here. I'm going to also post a pic of his office its like a

> under water submarine and is amazing..lol.. what a differance than

my

> dentist when I was a kid.

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I myself haven't seen anything about issues with the pallate and gum line with plagio, but a dental surgeon/special needs dentist my older daughter had been seeing from the time she was 19 months old told me plagio could cause misalignment of the jaw and problems with the pallate. I have always been worried about it, and at that time he told me with Tatijana there was nothing to worry about.

I have my doubts now that at Tatijana's dentist appointment the other day her dentist told me she has a very deep bite, not sure what that means. He said for now they just want to keep an eye on it and after her adult teeth come in she may need braces. She also has a gap inbetween her bottom front two teeth, which they weren't too concerned with cause it will help when her adult teeth come in with overcrowding, but they did mention something about a frenectomy.(Not sure what that is either, other than cutting something). Well I guess I now have lots of questions for her dentist and should call him with them.

Johanna and repo'in lyse

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With Lorrain's posts on crossbite and palate expanders I'm wondering

why I have't seen anything on the effect of plagio on the bite

(jaw/palate). Garrett (9 mo's) has not been banded/helmeted...we've

been repositioning. His doc doesn't think his head shape is bad

enough to warrant banding but I am having doubts. Anyway, I pointed

out to him that Garrett has what looked like an uneven palate giving

him a slanted gumline...doc examined and said it was a bulge in the

gums not a palate un-evenness. I suggested to the doc that this

might be a result of his plagio and he told me no, just a bulge in

his gums. Now he's cutting his incisors and his eye tooth on the

bulging side. Because of the bulge/slant it looks like the tooth is

coming in and laying over the gum rather than coming down like a

regular tooth. Hopefully I'm just paranoid and not used to seeing

babys teeth come in but I'm a little worried. We will see doc

Friday for his 9 month exam and I'll ask him about it again. Is

there anything out on the net about what I may be seeing? Is this

related to the plagio maybe?

& Garrett

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Lorraine " <LorraineSonn@h...>

wrote:

> I will take a pic of her bite today and post it in the photos

> section and try to find a internet pic of the palette exspander.

Its

> a small thing that is glued into their molers in her case baby

molar

> and a key is used to exspand and I'm guessing in her case one side

> will be exspander more than the other to make it symetrical. The

> reason why I posted was because this Othodontist exsplained to me

> that because I came very young at 5 years old and I could wait 2

plus

> years it was better to treat early because her molers were uneven

> high up in her gums in the xray and they wouldent probably fall

down

> correctly as her molars grew in and even worse that may push into

> other teeth up there and decay them. He told me if Mackenzie was

his

> daughter he would start tretment now because there was no reason

to

> wait as it will not correct itself and if we start early we can

avoid

> other problems and maybe avoid braces altogether. He actually told

me

> what I was guessing would be the treatment after knowing what my

> sister in law went through with her kids with regular problems

(not

> Plagio) but a jaw that stuck out and I'm thrilled this wont

involve

> jaw surgery. If we dident do this Mackenzies bite would be so

wrong

> it would be neglect. The bonus to all this is her tilted jaw wont

be

> tilted after this and this is the best news about the Plagio I've

got

> since we used the Doc band 4 years ago. I dont believs her chin

will

> be symetrical but her assures me it will so I will update you all

as

> we progress.

> This is not covered with any Insurance and I was told with a

> older child 7 + that this is harder and with second teeth to

consider

> its a bigger job so hes giving me a 50% discount as he feels it

will

> will in a month of turning the key and she'll be monotered with it

in

> her mouth for a year and then have it removed when the bone grows

in.

> The reg price for phase one tretment.. pre braces in $3200 and

braces

> are $5800. I live in one of the richest places in the USA (Boca

> Raton, Palm beach county Florida.. I'm one of the poorer

> residents...lol..) and I know I could travel and get a cheaper

deal

> but after consulting with Dr Kawa I feel so good about it I'm not

> going for a second opinion. I felt this way too at the Cranial

Tech

> office and you know when someone is right and good and it will be

ok.

> Dr Kawa was recommended frpm Dr Stilnicki and my daughter peas and

> her dentist and we have alot of Orthos in our town as most kids

get

> them here. I'm going to also post a pic of his office its like a

> under water submarine and is amazing..lol.. what a differance than

my

> dentist when I was a kid.

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Go get a free Orthodontic evaluation and it may sway you towards

a helmet if its needed. If the gums are not aligned other bones in

the head like eye sockets ears and eardrums and this can cause

problems in life forever. The more you know the more you can make the

best decision. If I had your time I wouldent wait for a helmet like I

did and have all this to deal with now.

Lorraine.

> > I will take a pic of her bite today and post it in the

photos

> > section and try to find a internet pic of the palette exspander.

> Its

> > a small thing that is glued into their molers in her case baby

> molar

> > and a key is used to exspand and I'm guessing in her case one

side

> > will be exspander more than the other to make it symetrical. The

> > reason why I posted was because this Othodontist exsplained to me

> > that because I came very young at 5 years old and I could wait 2

> plus

> > years it was better to treat early because her molers were uneven

> > high up in her gums in the xray and they wouldent probably fall

> down

> > correctly as her molars grew in and even worse that may push into

> > other teeth up there and decay them. He told me if Mackenzie was

> his

> > daughter he would start tretment now because there was no reason

> to

> > wait as it will not correct itself and if we start early we can

> avoid

> > other problems and maybe avoid braces altogether. He actually

told

> me

> > what I was guessing would be the treatment after knowing what my

> > sister in law went through with her kids with regular problems

> (not

> > Plagio) but a jaw that stuck out and I'm thrilled this wont

> involve

> > jaw surgery. If we dident do this Mackenzies bite would be so

> wrong

> > it would be neglect. The bonus to all this is her tilted jaw wont

> be

> > tilted after this and this is the best news about the Plagio I've

> got

> > since we used the Doc band 4 years ago. I dont believs her chin

> will

> > be symetrical but her assures me it will so I will update you all

> as

> > we progress.

> > This is not covered with any Insurance and I was told with a

> > older child 7 + that this is harder and with second teeth to

> consider

> > its a bigger job so hes giving me a 50% discount as he feels it

> will

> > will in a month of turning the key and she'll be monotered with

it

> in

> > her mouth for a year and then have it removed when the bone grows

> in.

> > The reg price for phase one tretment.. pre braces in $3200 and

> braces

> > are $5800. I live in one of the richest places in the USA (Boca

> > Raton, Palm beach county Florida.. I'm one of the poorer

> > residents...lol..) and I know I could travel and get a cheaper

> deal

> > but after consulting with Dr Kawa I feel so good about it I'm not

> > going for a second opinion. I felt this way too at the Cranial

> Tech

> > office and you know when someone is right and good and it will be

> ok.

> > Dr Kawa was recommended frpm Dr Stilnicki and my daughter peas

and

> > her dentist and we have alot of Orthos in our town as most kids

> get

> > them here. I'm going to also post a pic of his office its like a

> > under water submarine and is amazing..lol.. what a differance

than

> my

> > dentist when I was a kid.

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