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And even more important: ASK YOUR SON what his questions are. He's

the one who's gonna have to put up with it (not that it's an enormous

ordeal) and is entitled to know what to expect and get answers about

anything that's worrying him.

Cammie

> Hello there,

> My name is ette and I've just joined the group. My son will be

having

> surgery within the next 9 months to a year to correct a pretty bad

> underbite. I was delighted to find a list such as this one so I

can learn

> from you about what to expect and pass it on to him. Who knows,

maybe

> someday he may even join the list.

>

> In the mean time, if any of you have undergone this particular type

of

> surgery and have any comments I can share with Allan about what to

expect,

> I would appreciate it. Or even specific questions I should be

asking the

> orthodontist when we go for the consultation in early September.

I'd

> especially be interested to hear about insurance coverage for this

> procedure. The orthodontist has not had one case covered yet.

>

> Thanks in advance for any information you send my way.

> ette

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My Name is I had surgery on June 17th yes I became anemic my levels are

down to 10.9 I am still wired until tommorw But even though I was taking

liquid iron the whole time I am still at 10.9. Ym soc keeps telling me it

will get better soon but wow you are 3 more months than me whats your doc say?

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Welcome

My name is Arlene, 36, married no children and an avid quilter. We

are all here to support you. Just take it slowly and you can do it.

I did 27 lbs today.

Arlene

198/171/150

> hi, I am new to the list but would like to introduce myself.

> My name is Cristina and I need some incentive to lose about

> 30 pounds.

>

> I have been kind of down

> about my physical apperance and haven't done anything to improve my

> mood, so I am thinking that taking

> charge of my own body could be a nice start :D

>

> Wish me luck

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> Welcome Cristina,

I'm Gena. At my heaviest I was 284. Since Oct 2000 I have lost 84 and

have about 40 more to go. You don't need luck. Just work on

habits,lifestyle, baby steps. Once you have the habits changed the

weight loss follows. You can do it!

Take care,

Gena

>

> > hi, I am new to the list but would like to introduce myself.

> > My name is Cristina and I need some incentive to lose about 

> > 30 pounds.

> >

> > I have been kind of down

> > about my physical apperance and haven't done anything to improve my

> > mood, so I am thinking that taking

> > charge of my own body could be a nice start :D

> >

> > Wish me luck

>

>

>

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Hi Cristina,

Welcome. I would like to lose about 50. Be nice if we could see us

meet our goals.

Dianne

> hi, I am new to the list but would like to introduce myself.

> My name is Cristina and I need some incentive to lose about

> 30 pounds.

>

> I have been kind of down

> about my physical apperance and haven't done anything to improve my

> mood, so I am thinking that taking

> charge of my own body could be a nice start :D

>

> Wish me luck

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Hi Cristina!

You can do it!

It isn't easy... there is no magic diet that makes it like a walk in

hte park... it will take a plan and some determination, but you can

absolutley do it.

Make sure whatever way of eating you choose it includes multiple

small days each day. It keeps you from feeling as hungry and it

keeps your body burning calories. And then find an exercise plan

that will work for you.

I am a big believer in the benefits of weights in weight loss...

muscle burns more calories than fat, and the research I've seen on

the effectiveness of slow to moderate aerobics doesn't say much good

about the additive role of aerobics in weight loss. Calorie deficit

is the key!

So go for it and it can happen!

>

> > hi, I am new to the list but would like to introduce myself.

> > My name is Cristina and I need some incentive to lose about

> > 30 pounds.

> >

> > I have been kind of down

> > about my physical apperance and haven't done anything to improve

my

> > mood, so I am thinking that taking

> > charge of my own body could be a nice start :D

> >

> > Wish me luck

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hi cristina

i am jenn, and i would like to lose 4-6 sizes. i am currently a 16,

but would like to be a 10. in mens's jeans i can wear a 36 but the

38's are more comfortable on my hips. i would like to wear a 30 in

mens. i just went through my whole depressed about my looks and i do

once in a while, btu i also feel really good abotu myself sometimes

and this group always makes that better. i am rededicated to cardio

i had not been doing so great at that but had been doing weights at

the gym and since last week i have been doing both again so i will

reach my goal. taking charge is an excellent start, even if you

can't afford to go to the gym, because i know i couldn't if my

parents hadn't gotten me the membership, walking around the block,

doing home excersized, crunches and pushups are all great things to

do. jumping rope, riding bikes, rollerblading. you can think of so

many fun things and they will all help you feel better about yourself

as well as get you on your way to your goal weight or desired look.

good luck.

-- In weightlossbuddies2 , " lovesd16 " <lovesd16@y...>

wrote:

> hi, I am new to the list but would like to introduce myself.

> My name is Cristina and I need some incentive to lose about

> 30 pounds.

>

> I have been kind of down

> about my physical apperance and haven't done anything to improve my

> mood, so I am thinking that taking

> charge of my own body could be a nice start :D

>

> Wish me luck

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Hi Diane.

The holidays are fun, but there is just too much temptation!

Even with what they have at work, if you can eat clean the rest of

the day and chug extra water before party time, you'll probably do

pretty well.

You mentioned too many carbs... do you have a target percentage of

carbs vs protein vs fats? I usually shoot for 40-50% protein, 40-50%

carb and 20% fat. It's not perfect, and if your doing low carb

obviously it doesn't work... but part of the reason I work out is to

gain strength and muscle as well as cutting fat... so I have to get

a reasonable number of carbs.

I'm just asking because if you have a target it helps you to know

how each day is going. A lot of days I'll sit down either the night

before or first thing in the morning and plan my food for the day...

a lot of people do it by the week, but I'm not quite that

structured...

Anyway, good luck getting through it... just keep working out and

feeling better!

> Hi All,

>

> Just wanted to say good morning to everyone. I wish everyone a

> wonderful day.

>

> I have been doing pretty good lately seeing a few lbs of weight

loss

> recently but this week I only made it to the gym one day and my

> mother who lives close brought me some goodies like rice pudding

this

> week. I went over to her house yesterday and she had some of this

> pepper cheese. It was very good and I made a sandwich with it but

I

> feel I had to many carbs from it. I am up about 1 lb this

morning.

> I will be on my way to the gym shortly. That will make it 2 days

of

> workout this week. I just feel so much better when I am getting

down

> and don't consume high calorie foods.

>

> Tomorrow at work we are having our Christmas potluck. I am sure

> again I may eat things I would not normally, but hopefully I can

get

> my excersize in.

>

> I really do see the changes when I excersize.

>

> Talk to you all later.

>

> Dianne

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Elana,

That is great news on the loss! Congrats! As for the tapes, you can

get them at Target, Best Buy, Sams Club, etc. Or, you can purchase

them on the net. I think some people got them at half.com, or you can

visit her website at http://www.lesliesansone.com

I have her Walk Away the Pounds set that included the 1, 2, and 3 mile

walk along with the weights (balls you fill with water that equal 1

pound). I also recently bought the Walk Away The Pounds for Abs.

Those are older. It's kind of funny watching them because they are

older. That set came with a 1,2, and 3 mile videos and the belt. The

belt is kind of awkward, and I told my BF that there was NO way he was

going to watch me do that one! LOL! Imagine me with this velcro belt

aroung my stomach wtih these two stretchy rubber ropes with handles

attached comeing out the back. LOL! Ok, the visual is pretty ugly

too! HAHA! But overall, I like her videos. Those are the first

vidoes I ACTUALLUY enjoyed doing and do on a regular basis. I hope

you find them and like them. Each set of 3 vidoes I got for like $30.

Not a bad investment at all!

Happy Holidays to you too!

> hey everyone,

>

> just wanted to drop a note of what's going on. I am actually doing

> pretty well. much better than i have been. food wise i am doing

> better, not great but much better. exercise wise i am really

> surprising myself. so far i have been exercising 2 weeks in a row

> which for me is a first. i always start and then somehow end up

> dropping it like i do with many other things. last week i did my

> treadmill 3 times for 20 min and this week i have done it every day

> for 20 min. it still is really hard but i am hoping that after a

> month it will start to get easier. since last tuesday i have lost

4.5

> pounds which i am really excited about. i am back down to 218 and i

> hope to be back at 216 by next week. maybe this exercising idea is

> really helping me. who would have thought it :)

>

> is it possible to buy the Walk away pounds tape in a store or can

one

> only buy it online? my husband and i are going to be in the states

> for a wedding in march-april and i would really like to get the

> tapes. thanks

>

> anyhow, not much else going on here. to everyone who celebrates

> Christmas, happy holidays and enjoy.

>

> Elana

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Elana,

That is wonderful! I'm so glad to hear you are doing better. Yes, it is

the exercise! Good for you! It will get easier, I promise. You are

doing better then me! My daughter is home visiting and we have been on

the go so I have not had time to exercise since Friday. I figured when

she was back I wouldn't though. I'm just hoping not to gain. I have

been eating ok so should be ok. After New Years and Niki leaves (Jan 3)

I will get back on my routine and get serious again. I just found out

hubby and I are going to Portland, Or for a dealership conference

(Lennox) in February so I really hope to at least lose a few before

then.

Anyway, kudos to you for doing good this time of year! I have seen

those tapes in Sam's Club stores. You said you will be in the states?

Sorry, I can't remember where everybody is. Where are you? Are you from

the states originally? Keep up the great work and have a wonderful and

safe holidays.

Gena

On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 04:37 AM, Elana Friedman

wrote:

> hey everyone,

>

> just wanted to drop a note of what's going on. I am actually doing

> pretty well. much better than i have been. food wise i am doing

> better, not great but much better. exercise wise i am really

> surprising myself. so far i have been exercising 2 weeks in a row

> which for me is a first. i always start and then somehow end up

> dropping it like i do with many other things. last week i did my

> treadmill 3 times for 20 min and this week i have done it every day

> for 20 min. it still is really hard but i am hoping that after a

> month it will start to get easier. since last tuesday i have lost 4.5

> pounds which i am really excited about. i am back down to 218 and i

> hope to be back at 216 by next week. maybe this exercising idea is

> really helping me. who would have thought it :)

>

> is it possible to buy the Walk away pounds tape in a store or can one

> only buy it online? my husband and i are going to be in the states

> for a wedding in march-april and i would really like to get the

> tapes. thanks

>

> anyhow, not much else going on here. to everyone who celebrates

> Christmas, happy holidays and enjoy.

>

> Elana

>

>

>

>

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Elana

I am glad to hear that you are doing better. Keep it up, the

exercise is definately working.

Arlene

> hey everyone,

>

> just wanted to drop a note of what's going on. I am actually doing

> pretty well. much better than i have been. food wise i am doing

> better, not great but much better. exercise wise i am really

> surprising myself. so far i have been exercising 2 weeks in a row

> which for me is a first. i always start and then somehow end up

> dropping it like i do with many other things. last week i did my

> treadmill 3 times for 20 min and this week i have done it every day

> for 20 min. it still is really hard but i am hoping that after a

> month it will start to get easier. since last tuesday i have lost

4.5

> pounds which i am really excited about. i am back down to 218 and i

> hope to be back at 216 by next week. maybe this exercising idea is

> really helping me. who would have thought it :)

>

> is it possible to buy the Walk away pounds tape in a store or can

one

> only buy it online? my husband and i are going to be in the states

> for a wedding in march-april and i would really like to get the

> tapes. thanks

>

> anyhow, not much else going on here. to everyone who celebrates

> Christmas, happy holidays and enjoy.

>

> Elana

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Laurie,

Welcome back!

i'm new to the group...joined in november....but i'm with you - have

lost and gained a bunch of times...but this time will be

forever....i'm really focusing on changing my whole lifestyle....how

i view food....and trying to be more respectful of my body......

you can do it! we're here for you!!!

Caroline

> just wanted to say hello, i was a member here for a long time. i

quit

> and rejoined, but have been lurking. so thought it about time to

join

> in again, nice to see your back gena. how you doing?i gained all

my

> weight back plus more.nov i saw a weight i never thought i would

see.

> my daughter gave me some tips and a great incentive to lose. well

did

> good first two weeks lost 7 lbs. and gaine back have been doing

that

> since lose gain,since the new year i have been doing real

good.more

> water, no sweets, writing down what i eat.i havent been getting to

> hungry,that's a good thing.when stressed and depressed, try

thinking

> of something other than food.

> have a good day

> Laurie

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--thanks gena. good to be back,yup i know the drill.i have had bad

news about a friend thats why i havent posted.nice nikki was back for

2 weeks. how is she?also mike took off a few days from work, hope

evryone there is well. we're ok here.yup here's to a healthier 2003.

G.B hugs Laurie

- In weightlossbuddies2 , Gena Grunwald

<auroragg@m...> wrote:

> LAURIE!!!!!!!!

> GB HUGS!!!! I'm so glad to see you back!!!! You know the drill.

Just

> look forward. What's done is done. Just get up, dust off, start

again.

> You know what to do, just set your mind to it. I was 195 early 2000

for

> about a week. I'm starting 2003 out at 205 :-( But it is ok. Niki

was

> back for 2 weeks and Mike took a few days off and Cassie was home

from

> school. Monday, my new year officially starts and I get back to my

> routine so I'm not worried. Here's to a healthier, happier 2003!

> GB HUGS,

> Gena

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Laurie,

Yup, having the attitude, mindset is what will get you there and I know

you can do it! Yes it was nice seeing Niki. She is really liking the

Army. Just finished AIT now does like a 6 week crash course on nursing

then a 40 week like on the job training thing. Not sure where she will

be for that. I'm hoping not too far away. Yeah, Mike shocked them at

work and took Wed through Sun off. That was really nice! Unfortunately

he didn't get to see Niki much. The one weekend she was really around

he was stuck on call and out on calls the whole time. Then they tried

to stick him with it again this last weekend! I was fit to be tied I

tell ya! Apparently (office manager) raised enough of a stink and

the guys divided it up. Now Mike took himself out of on call rotation.

He is the general manager and buying the company so it's about time!

That's about it around here. What's new with you? What was the sad

news? I'm sorry. I hope things work out. IM me sometime if you want to

talk. I don't talk there much because I'm usually in between housework,

working out and checking e-mail but you know, I have it on, so just

send me a message and I will answer if I can. Love ya hon and I am glad

you are back!

HUGS!!!

Gena

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Ah! I would KILL to weigh 140! How tall are you? What size do you

wear now and what weight do you want to be?

--Bethany--

> Hey buds

>

> How is everyone?? I hope all is well. I am going to try to catch

up

> on some posts. I have been sort of out of the loop since Xmas but

I

> have managed to not gain any weight and still walk on the tread.

I

> have to admit I have been missing days here and there but I will

get

> on track again. I now weigh 140 so I feel okay but I really need

to

> tone up and of course continue exercising and eating healthy.

> Remember we all can do this it just takes time, patience and of

> course dedication. Good luck!!!!!!! I am sorry I haven't posted

in

> awhile but you guys are on my mind every single day!!!

>

>

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Ah! I would KILL to weigh 140! How tall are you? What size do you

wear now and what weight do you want to be?

--Bethany--

> Hey buds

>

> How is everyone?? I hope all is well. I am going to try to catch

up

> on some posts. I have been sort of out of the loop since Xmas but

I

> have managed to not gain any weight and still walk on the tread.

I

> have to admit I have been missing days here and there but I will

get

> on track again. I now weigh 140 so I feel okay but I really need

to

> tone up and of course continue exercising and eating healthy.

> Remember we all can do this it just takes time, patience and of

> course dedication. Good luck!!!!!!! I am sorry I haven't posted

in

> awhile but you guys are on my mind every single day!!!

>

>

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well good news i lost 2lbs.i have done good with the eating all

month,i have had no cookies,cake etc.yeah meso nikki is liking the

army.hope she wont be to far away,

a friend of mine died, thats what the sad news was,i did good too, i

didnt pig out like i use to do just chatted etc. sp proud of that.

take care.love ya glad to be back

Laurie

> Laurie,

> Yup, having the attitude, mindset is what will get you there and I

know

> you can do it! Yes it was nice seeing Niki. She is really liking

the

> Army. Just finished AIT now does like a 6 week crash course on

nursing

> then a 40 week like on the job training thing. Not sure where she

will

> be for that. I'm hoping not too far away. Yeah, Mike shocked them

at

> work and took Wed through Sun off. That was really nice!

Unfortunately

> he didn't get to see Niki much. The one weekend she was really

around

> he was stuck on call and out on calls the whole time. Then they

tried

> to stick him with it again this last weekend! I was fit to be tied

I

> tell ya! Apparently (office manager) raised enough of a stink

and

> the guys divided it up. Now Mike took himself out of on call

rotation.

> He is the general manager and buying the company so it's about time!

> That's about it around here. What's new with you? What was the

sad

> news? I'm sorry. I hope things work out. IM me sometime if you want

to

> talk. I don't talk there much because I'm usually in between

housework,

> working out and checking e-mail but you know, I have it on, so just

> send me a message and I will answer if I can. Love ya hon and I am

glad

> you are back!

>

> HUGS!!!

> Gena

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Jenni,

Welcome! I'm Gena, 37, married 19 yrs, have 2 girls 19 and 12. I

suggest going back and reading old posts. There is lots of great info.

At the risk of sounding like Dr Phil, I don't believe you have no self

control. It is lack of desire and motivation maybe but you can do it if

you want to. You have to really look at yourself. Do some serious self

examination. Really ask yourself why are you overweight? What has led

to it? Do you use it for comfort, boredom, anger? Have you just found

it easier to not deal with things? Do you think of food as your friend?

I can tell you this, it wont stay your friend. It will catch up with

you.

Speaking of Dr Phil, I highly recommend his Self Matters book and Bob

Green's Get With the Program. Both of them talk about the " why " we get

over weight. Bob says to work on habits and behaviors that made you

heavy before even trying to lose weight. They are both really good.

We are all here for the same reason. I was 284 at my heaviest, so far

am 205. You can do it. Take it one day at a time. Work on behaviors and

habits, portion control, getting more active, making healthier choices.

We'll be here for you! Oh and I'm in Alaska.

Gena

On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 12:24 AM,

wrote:

> Hello everyone, I'm new to the group. This is the first group I've

> joined so I don't know what to do.  I'm looking for people to support

> me with weight loss, I have no self control and could use all the

> support I can get. I'm 23 years old single mother and live in

> Washington.

> Jenni

>

>

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In a message dated 1/14/2003 3:31:11 AM Central Standard Time,

jennilrogers@... writes:

> This is the first group I've joined so I don't know what to do. I'm looking

> for people to support me with weight loss, I have no self control and could

> use all the

> support I can get.

Hey there!! Sure you know what to do!! Figure out what your goals are and

think about how you can attain them!! You know yourself better than anyone

else and you know what you are capable of!!

As for no self control....HONEY!!!! Youre here arent you?? Its a wonderful

first step toward meeting whatever goals you set for yourself and thats

finding people to support you in that journey...and there is NO BETTER group

than this one for that!!!

We are all here for you Jenni!! SO whatever we can help you with....JUST

ASK!! If we dont know the answer believe me between us we will find out!!

Big hugs to you and WELCOME to the first step of reaching your goals!!

-Shan

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Hi Jenni-

My name is Jennie too and I'm also 23 and a mother of two young children.

I'm in Rhode Island-too bad we're not closer-we could go walking together!

:-) I defenitly can relate to how you want so badly to lose weight. My second

child really got me huge and I've got alot of skinny friends and I want to

wear my old clothes again and look 23!!!

What I would suggest to you is try to join weight watchers if you can. I

joined 3 weeks ago and I've lost 5.5 lbs. Its such a great support system and

you can eat whatever you want.

If you cant join a program like WW, I would say just keep busy-dont think

about food-do something else. For me, I have to constantly keep moving all

day long doing laundry, or playing with the kids, and cleaning the house. Eat

breakfast-believe me this helps if your prone to bingeing mid-morning. WALK-I

walked last night and felt great.

This is a wonderful support group and if you want to chat, or need some

motivation, we're here for you.

Jennie

jennie71379@...

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In a message dated 1/15/2003 9:50:50 PM Central Standard Time,

smoregirls@... writes:

> I get home from work at 4 so not much time to make anything for supper...Any

> ideas would be helpful b/c I feel the way I'm doing it I'm not going to be

> losing any weight!!!

>

Gail! Good morning!!

I have never been much of a cook like I have said before but I can give some

ideas for ligth dinners that dont require much time or cooking experience!! I

TOTALLY agree with Miki on the crock pot deal. Even I can throw in some chili

(lower fat w/ turkey meat and lots of verggies) together and let it simmer

all day and in this weather thats a very welcoming smell to come home to!

Same with many soups you can crock all day while working...make a salad when

you get home and dinner is served!!

I also love love love the boneless skinless chicken filets Wal-Mart sells.

They take less than 5 mins to make and you can have one cut into a salad or

you make a sandwich with them ..they are very versatile and sooooo tasty. I

have the 'fortune' of being able to eat the same thing repeatedly without

tiring of it (ok so I got sick of tuna last week but I was over it by this

week heheh) so I can eat the same lunch or dinner for days on end without

flinching. Tuna really has become a fav though both because its good and

because its soooo easy to make. I like it on crackers I like it in salad and

I like it just mixed with a little mayo mustard (yes mustard and lol I have

been advised how unappealing this is to most folks hehehe) and shredded

cheese) straight from a bowl ;) I even like it with green eggs and ham

bwwwwwhahahah ;) And hey a quick breakfast in the evening is super easy too!!

2 eggs over medium with a slice of toast or a english muffing bottom and even

one or 2 slices of bacon (or turkey bacon which is even easier b/c you can

micro it and its still crisp).

As for burning calories THINKING about exercise...WOO HOO!!! What a beautiful

world THAT would be lmao!!! A lovely lovely thought INDEED!!!

Ooooooh man am I dragging this morning...am promising myself RIGHT NOW

homework aside and work can get bent..I am going to be in bed by 10pm tonight

no excuses ;)

SKippity doo-dah ..Skippity aaaaaaaay... My oh my ...my ass is dragging

today!! ZEROOOO sunshine headed my way...Skippity dooooo-daaaaah I gotta get

this booty moving TODAY hehehe ;)

Yall have a good one!!

-Shan

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,

Oh honey, I didn't know you had crohn's! Hubby, Mike has it and I know

what it's like all to well. Just get rest, and get better soon. When

Mike has a flare he just goes to bed and doesn't eat. He says he feels

too awful to eat. So after sleeping for like 10 hours he'll get up and

have some jello or soup or applesauce. I wish he was like you when

having a flare! We have had some of our worst arguments about it

because he wallows and pushes me away and says he is the one who is

sick. I say oh contrair! You don't think I worry myself sick every

time? I worry that this is the time he will need surgery. I worry that

it might be getting worse and there will be more doc bills. We have no

medical ins and he is the sole support of the household but I am the

one who handles the money so he has no clue what shape we are in. We

are doing good right now but one trip to the E.R would send us back

months! That and I worry because I know crohn's kills thousands a year

and I can't imagine my life without him! I tell him, just like when my

shoulder was bad, before the surgery, how helpless he felt, that is how

I feel with his crohn's times 1000 because crohn's does not go away!!!!

Sorry, it's you who is sick and here I go rambling. I know we are

lucky because we have been able to treat his crohn's naturally. He is

not on any meds and has had no surgeries ever or even doc appt in over

2 years. you take care dear. I hope this flare passes soon. Oh and

congrads on the 138!!! That is fantastic! Although as I know, with

crohn's that is not always the right way to lose. Please, be careful

and take care. back when Mike was really sick, he lost 25 lbs in 4

weeks. He looked awful!!! It was soo scary!

Hugs,

Gena

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Dear Manpreet,

I know it is overwhelming at first, especially when you feel fine, only to

find out everything is not. I can only imagine how unsettling that must have

been.

You have come to the right place to find answers. Kidney loss with IgA is a

long process. Learning what you can helps lessen the stress.

I just wanted to welcome you here and let you know that we do understand what

it is like.

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Stav,

I used to get colds several times a winter until I got on Epogin (Prograf) I

guess I got the infections because my hemoglobin was so low. When it got back

up I only got about one a season. It made life so much better.

hello

For the past year I have been suffering from continued bouts of throat and

chest infections.....does anyone else suffer from this? am I just being

paranoid thinking that this is related to my iga? I'm off to see my neph at

the end of the month, shall I tell him about this?????

I'd also like to thank everyone on this site!!!! keep up the good work!!!!!

thanks

stav (uk)

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Yes, tell you neph, for sure.

Some people are like that. I managed to go through 25 years of IgAN right to

dialysis without having much of a problem with throat and chest infections,

but everyone's different. I don't think the IgAN itself causes them, but

having them doesn't help the IgAN.

Pierre

hello

>

> For the past year I have been suffering from continued bouts of throat and

> chest infections.....does anyone else suffer from this? am I just being

> paranoid thinking that this is related to my iga? I'm off to see my neph

at

> the end of the month, shall I tell him about this?????

>

> I'd also like to thank everyone on this site!!!! keep up the good

work!!!!!

>

> thanks

> stav (uk)

>

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