Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi , As I understand Elaine's book, we are focusing on the fungus because yeast is a fungus and we are trying NOT to feed the yeast by cutting down on the complex carbohydrates (disaccharides and polysaccharides)which are harder to digest and wind up in our kid's guts so the yeast have a field day with them. When you kill the yeast you want the good bacteria in the gut instead of an overgrowth of the bad (clostridia) bacteria, hence the yogurt, to add the good bacteria and try to balance the good with the bad in the gut while keeping the yeast down (it is never gone completely). That's how I see it and hopefully one of the moderators can clarify and correct if I'm off somewhere. By the way, is the guy's name Ron instead of Doug?? If so, he's the autism recovered boy (now adult)from the Sonrise Institute in Mass. Take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA > This is pretty OT, but mom has a friend telling her about a man named Doug Kaufman, he's on TV and has a website called " I know the cause " . Mom says his recommendations sound a lot like SCD but he is always talking about " fungus " and we are focusing on bacteria, aren't we? I remember from biology that these are not the same, but how to they interplay in the gut? Any feedback is great, thanks. > > in NC > Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate; > , age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy > All SCD since 1/26/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi , Well, Mimi posted the following on D-Lactic Acidosis. It looks we are dealing with both yeast and bacterial issues, which would make sense since they are both in the gut permanently. Hope this helps and someone ele pitches in with more clarification. Take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA Mimi --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.pecanbread.com/BTVCautismchapter.html Bacterial fermentation occurs when undigested carbohydrates escape digestion and absorption and end up in the lower parts of the small intestine and colon. Unlike diets that eliminate only certain proteins, based on tests showing sensitivities to proteins, and that allow unlimited intake of starches and sugars, the Specific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD) is designed to nourish the child optimally and to minimize bacterial fermentation. and Blass in 1985 in The Journal of Developmental Disorders reported the first evidence that autism might be linked to carbohydrate metabolism (digestion). 3 These researchers reported that the syndrome of Dlactic acidosis was found to be present in autistic children. Their work was based on reports of the 1970's and 1980's showing that undigested carbohydrates were being changed by bacterial action in the intestine to a substance, D-lactic acid. High amounts of D-lactic acid in the bloodstream have been found to cause bizarre behavioral symptoms. This book discusses earlier research relating to D-lactic acidosis in Chapter 7, The Brain Connection.4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 There are two approaches to treating this abnormal production of D-lactic acid: (1) use of antibiotics to kill the bacteria producing the substance, a method often used med- ically, and (2) decreasing the amount of fermentable carbohydrates upon which bacteria feed in order to produce D-lactic acid. Since antibiotic therapy often is accompanied by other side effects, it seems reasonable to suggest dietary changes to accomplish the same thing or as a support for medical intervention with antibiotics. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is the original research article linking lactic acidosis to inborn errors of carbohydrate metabolism. -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstra\ ct & list_uids=3980425 J Autism Dev Disord. 1985 Mar;15(1):1-8. Related Articles, Links Autism and lactic acidosis. M, Blass JP. Four patients are described who have two coexistent syndromes: the behavioral syndrome of autism and the biochemical syndrome of lactic acidosis. One of the four patients also had hyperuricemia and hyperuricosuria. These patients raise the possibility that one subgroup of the autism syndrome may be associated with inborn errors of carbohydrate metabolism. Publication Types: * Case Reports PMID: 3980425 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] --------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is pretty OT, but mom has a friend telling her about a man named Doug Kaufman, he's on TV and has a website called " I know the cause " . Mom says his recommendations sound a lot like SCD but he is always talking about " fungus " and we are focusing on bacteria, aren't we? I remember from biology that these are not the same, but how to they interplay in the gut? Any feedback is great, thanks. > > in NC > Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate; > , age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy > All SCD since 1/26/04 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 For clarification of what Doug Kaufman believes and talks about go to : http://www.knowthecause.com/ The site has just recently been redone because of some big changes they went through with the t.v. show so the website is still being developed. It doesn't really give a whole lot of information. There is a forum which can give a little insite as to what is eaten and what is not. http://www.knowthecause.com/forum.php There are a few phases to the diet also so some things aren't allowed at first which are added in later. Watching the show is very informative, if you can get it. Many things correspond well with SCD, some things don't. Whole food diet does include whole grains, brown rice, flax (I think) Organic grass fed meat Raw eggs from grass fed chickens Organic fruits and vegetables (mostly vegetables) I think they teach that if you drink milk to drink organic raw grass fed cow or goat milk but I could be a little mislead on that one. Probiotics NO Corn, Potatoes, Seaweeds, Yeast Breads, etc. Also you hear alot about Dr. Mercola www.mercola.com There are differences- One thing that I remember from watching the show a year ago is they suggested if you eat apples or make apple juice to choose Granny because they have less sugar. Just little things like that you have to compare. It is very possible this could be a way of eating for some people after the healing process on SCD?. Books on the subject: Infectious Diabetes The Fungus Link The Fungus Link 2 The Germ That Causes Cancer What Makes Bread Rise > > This is pretty OT, but mom has a friend telling her about a man > named Doug Kaufman, he's on TV and has a website called " I know the > cause " . Mom says his recommendations sound a lot like SCD but he is > always talking about " fungus " and we are focusing on bacteria, > aren't we? I remember from biology that these are not the same, but > how to they interplay in the gut? Any feedback is great, thanks. > > > > in NC > > Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate; > > , age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy > > All SCD since 1/26/04 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Thanks - I'm not planning to alter SCD at all, but mom is thinking of following Doug Kauffman's suggestion for her and dad and we were curious how the two compare. Thanks again! in NC Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate; , age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy All SCD since 1/26/04 Infectious Diabetes The Fungus Link The Fungus Link 2 The Germ That Causes Cancer What Makes Bread Rise > > This is pretty OT, but mom has a friend telling her about a man > named Doug Kaufman, he's on TV and has a website called " I know the > cause " . Mom says his recommendations sound a lot like SCD but he is > always talking about " fungus " and we are focusing on bacteria, > aren't we? I remember from biology that these are not the same, but > how to they interplay in the gut? Any feedback is great, thanks. > > > > in NC > > Mom of Luke, age 5, Asperger's/low-salicylate; > > , age 3, healthy; and , 19 mos, healthy > > All SCD since 1/26/04 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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