Re: Re: armour is wiring me out, help!! I'm ready to give up:(

[Guest guest]

Carly,

Sounds like you're having the same problem that I did when I first

started on Synthroid, after my RAI... I couldn't take it very well at

all... And your labs are showing that you sure do need to be adding.....

And you are swallowing it......

Want to try something...????

The quarter grain that you are taking now, is it a single tab? If it is

can you split it? If you don't have a pill splitter or a single edged

razor blade don't worry about that, yet... try this little test first...

Split or bite the tab in half.... then take a half and split or bite it

in half to give you a quarter tab..... now take a quarter tab when you

first get up, slip it under your tongue.. don't swallow... then get up

and dress/shower, whatever, by the time you've finished that the tab

should be dissolved, you can eat your breakfast... see how your tummy

does with that.....

If it does okay.... take another quarter tab, under your tongue about a

half hour before lunch... then eat normally.... Do it again about half

way inbetween lunch and supper.... with a bit of a snack, like your

cracker.... and your last dose timed with supper.....

See how your tummy does....

Mine was horrid the first 2 years after I started.... I only had

synthetics and the only way I could tolerate taking it that first two

years was to split into three doses and swallow them after eating a

meal...

With the Naturals.. we have the ability to do them sublingually, and get

the meds right into the blood stream, so less stress to the tummy.... but

since your's is acting up.. I'm thinking to eat something after.... to

keep the tummy occupied....

You should know the first day how your tummy is going to handle it.....

and if this does the trick for you..... you can allow your body time to

adjust... and then go from there.....

I know multi-dosing is a bother... but if it's the difference between

feeling better and not... I think it's worth it.... after my system

adjusted I could handle the dose in the morning without getting

nauseous..... so it's not a forever thing....

I multi-dose now because it makes me feel better... AND I honestly

believe that it's helping my body with all the healing that it has to

do.... I was underdosed for many, many years... and then when I lost my

insurance and couldn't afford to go to a doc... I went for three years

pretty much with no meds at all... so my poor bod has had a lot of

healing to do...

If you decide to try the little experiment... let me know how it goes....

we can keep tweaking until we find out what your body needs until it can

adjust....

Adrenals are best to do early in the day..... but, first.. lets see if we

can get your tummy to settle down....

Topper () *who often wishes that my body was tougher and not such a

baby!!!! heheheheheh*

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:19:52 -0000 " sososleepy " writes:

> Hi ,

> Thank you for responding:)

> My labs before starting synthroid

> Oct-03

> FT4-1.1 r-0.8-1.8

> FT3-300 r-230-420

> Tsh-1.53 r-0.40-5.50

>

> labs 1-04 after synthroid

> FT4-1.3

> FT3-269

> Tsh-2.36

> ref same as above

>

> My DR perscribed 112mcg synthroid but couldn't tolerate that dose.

> I'm taken the armour now 1/4g at 9:00am a couple hrs after eating

> breakfast. I take it with water and a cracker cause i have a

> sensitive stomach.

> Thanks so much Car

[Guest guest]

For someone that needs the cortisol like you do, it is not the same as people

that are just taking it for fatigued adrenals. You can die without it. It is

like taking iron for low iron count, or thyroid meds with an underactive

thyroid.

Re: armour is wiring me out, help!! I'm

ready to give up:(

Hi ,

Thanks so much for respondinf to my post. I have been on adrenal

support (cortef) since Sep but just resently went from 20 to 25mg. My

DR wants me on 30mg which i do take but not everyday cause it

constipates me.

I think it is possible that even though i have been on cortef since

Sep that i am still fighting with weak adrenals. I think this because

a couple of weeks ago i passed out and my endo put me on a crisis

dose of steroids 100mg. He then tapered me down to my current dose 25-

30mg. When i was between 40 and 50mg i felt alot better and didn't

feel like i was going to pass out when on my feet.

I have been sick for many yrs so it may take a long time to get this

worked out. Also, while on the higher dose i felt calm. No wired

tired feeling. I was taken my daughter for walks outside which i

never do cause i'm afraid i will pass out. I don't think it's a good

idea to take such high doses of steriods everyday but i sure felt

better then i do now. I'm going to discuss this with my endo at my

next visit.

It is difficult when one reacts to the meds like we do. I wish it

were easier to figure it all out. My brain is so washed that i feel

like i'm in a fog 24/7. I know it must be very difficult to feel bad

and take care of a 1 and 3 yr old. I hope and pray we both find

answers soon. I love my daughter more then anything and just want to

be able to plan a day with her doing fun things. I know how you feel

. Hang in there. Somehow we have to get well. Hugs, Car

> > Hi Everyone,

> > I have been trying to tolerate armour now for a couple weeks. I

tryed

> > 1/4 grain 2x per day as perscibed by my DR but had to lower it to

1/4

> > gr once a day. He had no problem trying this for me which made me

> > very happy. I had been on 25 mcg of synthyroid which is much

lower of

> > a dose then what he percribed but i couldn't get up to the dose

of

> > 112mcg of synthroid because of adverse reactions. That is why i

ask

> > if i could try the armour.

> >

> > Well, it seems the armour is even worse for me. I am so irritalbe

and

> > wired, insomnia and just plan lousy. I'm tired and wired worse

then

> > before. Does anyone have any suggestions for me? I am just ready

to

> > throw in the towel. Not to sound negative but this is just to

hard to

> > figure out when my brain is so out to lunch. I am on 25 mg of

cortef

> > so i don't need anymore adrenal support.

> > Should i give up on armour and go back to the 25mcg of syntroid?

> > I tolerated that better then this.

> >

> > Have any of you experienced adverse effects that subsided? How do

you

> > guys take your thyroid and adrenal stuff, together or at

different

> > times?

> > Please help me. I am so desperate. I'm really having a hard time

> > taking care of my 2 yr old. I am always off balance when on my

feet

> > and feel like i will pass out. Thanks so much. Car

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[Guest guest]

Did we ask about your ferritin and female hormones like estrogen and

progesterone?

Re: armour is wiring me out, help!! I'm

ready to give up:(

Hi, Thank so much your for your concern. Don't worry i do take my

cortef everyday as perscribed. The only thing i don't do is take that

extra 5mg unless i really need it. I may take 25 one day and 30 the

next. I used to be on 20mg but he increased my dose because i was

still tired and dizzy.He said i could stay on the 20mg if i wanted

but to try increasing to 30 to see how i feel. The 30mg doesn't

change the dizziness or fatigue. Acually i don't think i feel any

difference in the 5 mg except that it constipates me. My DR thinks

the tyroid is really what is going to help with the dizziness and

fatigue. I am not tolerating much of the tyroid though. Hopefully it

will make the difference. Thank you for helping:) Car

[Guest guest]

My ferritin was 20 and those are low numbers. My DR has a web site

goodhormonehealth.com. He has me taking 325 mg of ferrous sulfate 3x a day! Your

estrogen seems OK depending on what time of the month. Have you posted all

current tests, ranges and results? This seems to be piece meal and it is harder

to say. Take a look at that web site. he is a professor at UCLA and Drew

U

Re: armour is wiring me out,

help!! I'm ready to give up:(

>

>

> Hi, Thank so much your for your concern. Don't worry i do take

my

> cortef everyday as perscribed. The only thing i don't do is take

that

> extra 5mg unless i really need it. I may take 25 one day and 30

the

> next. I used to be on 20mg but he increased my dose because i was

> still tired and dizzy.He said i could stay on the 20mg if i

wanted

> but to try increasing to 30 to see how i feel. The 30mg doesn't

> change the dizziness or fatigue. Acually i don't think i feel any

> difference in the 5 mg except that it constipates me. My DR

thinks

> the tyroid is really what is going to help with the dizziness and

> fatigue. I am not tolerating much of the tyroid though. Hopefully

it

> will make the difference. Thank you for helping:) Car

>

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