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In a message dated 01/15/2002 6:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, muttluver@... writes:

I need to try something because I can't stand being so cold and tired

all the time. Are there any supplements or herbs I can take? Has

anyone tried accupuncture?

I should mention that I am insulin resistant and allergic to

chemicals: antibiotics, black dye used in clothing, cigarette smoke,

perfumes, cleaning products etc. My cholesterol is also high but it

has come down to 204 since I stopped being a vegetarian and I am now

on a high protein diet with lots of veggies.

I would appreciate any suggestions you can give me.

Bernadette,

Hi, and welcome! IMO, you should go get your thyroid checked. Then, at least you'd know what's going on and from there you can make some informed choices rather than guessing at what you need that will help.

I am also of the opinion that your low body temperature needs to be addressed. You can start gathering information by charting your daily temperature and keeping a log. If you get a doc who dismisses the significance of having low body temps, then I think you should look for one who thinks it's important.

I found the most important thing to help me with the hypothyroid symptoms has been the right type of thyroid medicine. Unfortunately, there's no substitute for it! That said, there are a couple of other things that can be helpful given what you report you're experiencing.

First, acupuncture is a godsend! It helps strengthen and support the thyroid and the immune system. Plus, it gives me energy and the most incredible feeling of mental calm after a treatment that lasts for several days! I would recommend going to a doc who is primarily trained in Oriental medicine as opposed to an MD who took a semester or two of acupuncture study. Depending on where you live, there are usually large numbers of Doctors of Oriental Medicine (acupuncturists) around to choose from. My doc is Korean. I've tried both Chinese and Korean acupuncturists and it seems to me the Korean docs have a lighter touch with the needles.

Another thing that might really help you with all the allergies is N.A.E.T. This has also been a godsend for me, since I suffered for decades with multiple allergies and was down to eating only a handful of foods. Now I can eat anything! They also can do allergy elimination for airborne pollens, cat dander, fabrics, etc. You can check out the main website at www.NAET.com. It is a simple, elegant, easy allergy elimination technique that has changed the concept of how to treat allergies. No more living with it. No more headaches. No more scratch and sniff, under the skin, expensive, painful testing. No more four day rotation diets. The state of the NAET technique today as compared with ten years ago makes allergy elimination easy, painless and relatively convenient and fairly inexpensive. They have a website listing of people trained to do the technique.

One other thing you might put some attention to is your diet. Consider eliminating all soy products as well as foods that fight the thyroid which are called goitrogens and see if you feel better. You can get a complete listing of those foods at www.thyroid.about.com. Best as I can remember the main ones are broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, beet greens, kale, millet, taro, cabbage. Some people get by eating those if they are well cooked. Personally, I can't cheat with much of any of them. And raw cabbage or broccoli--gads-it makes my thyroid hurt! Unfermented soy products strongly suppress the thyroid system in some people. About.thyroid has an article or two about that as well.

I hope this helps. Let us know how your doctor search and testing goes. Then maybe there will be more questions you'll have after that.

Good luck!

in LA

"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey

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In a message dated 01/15/2002 10:58:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, muttluver@... writes:

All the veggies you listed are ones I

eat alot of, so maybe that's why I am worse this year. I've been told

to eliminate dairy and grains, so there aren't many things left to

eat. Except for meat, which is my least favorite food, of course.

Bernadette,

Sometimes it feels like Food Prison, for sure!! LOL! I must say when I experimented with vegetarianism in my late twenties, I felt terrible. Now, I read articles on About.thyroid.com that say the diet is hard on hypothyroids because the person already lacks heat and so does the vegetarian diet! No wonder it did nothing for me! But that's all part of the experience, eh?

I have been searching out foods lately, mainly vegetables that I can enjoy. Those colored peppers are fabulous, eh? And sprouts! I try to use them a lot! I have also gone back to my childhood favorites, green beens and peas. A friend of mine went to Weight Watchers where he was told he had to eat five servings of veggies a day. So, I'm trying to do that just on principle even though I don't want to do a diet! I'm not dieting not because I can't stand to lose the weight but because I hate the feeling of being in food prison. So, I'm trying to eat more veggies, balance them with enough meat protein and some unprocessed carbs. I'm really struggling giving up bread again even though I definitely feel better when I don't eat products made with wheat flour. I had the NAET clearing for wheat done and notice I can eat whole grain wheat with no problem but breads made with flour seem to fuzz up my brain. Has anyone any ideas for eating carbs without eating flour products?

in LA

"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey

[Guest guest]

Well the worse thing that could happen in not taking

medicine is a coma.

Make an appointment. :} You will be glad you did.

I have never tried really anything alternative,

because most " alternative " therapys have never been

proven.

I have been on synthroid for 13 years or so.

--- muttluver1 <muttluver@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have been having a problem with extreme cold

> intolerance and

> believe I am hypothyroid. My other symptoms are

> fatigue, memory

> problems and dry skin. Also I am having trouble

> losing 5 pounds. I am

> reluctant to make a doctor's appointment because I

> am not sure I want

> to go on thryoid hormones.

>

> I need to try something because I can't stand being

> so cold and tired

> all the time. Are there any supplements or herbs I

> can take? Has

> anyone tried accupuncture?

>

> I should mention that I am insulin resistant and

> allergic to

> chemicals: antibiotics, black dye used in clothing,

> cigarette smoke,

> perfumes, cleaning products etc. My cholesterol is

> also high but it

> has come down to 204 since I stopped being a

> vegetarian and I am now

> on a high protein diet with lots of veggies.

>

> I would appreciate any suggestions you can give me.

>

> Thanks,

> Bernadette

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, .

You've given me alot of info. All the veggies you listed are ones I

eat alot of, so maybe that's why I am worse this year. I've been told

to eliminate dairy and grains, so there aren't many things left to

eat. Except for meat, which is my least favorite food, of course. I'm

going to look into the NAET too.

Thanks,

Bernadette

> Bernadette,

>

> Hi, and welcome! IMO, you should go get your thyroid checked.

Then, at

> least you'd know what's going on and from there you can make some

informed

> choices rather than guessing at what you need that will help.

>

> I am also of the opinion that your low body temperature needs to be

> addressed. You can start gathering information by charting your

daily

> temperature and keeping a log. If you get a doc who dismisses the

> significance of having low body temps, then I think you should look

for one

> who thinks it's important.

>

> I found the most important thing to help me with the hypothyroid

symptoms has

> been the right type of thyroid medicine. Unfortunately, there's no

> substitute for it! That said, there are a couple of other things

that can be

> helpful given what you report you're experiencing.

>

> First, acupuncture is a godsend! It helps strengthen and support

the thyroid

> and the immune system. Plus, it gives me energy and the most

incredible

> feeling of mental calm after a treatment that lasts for several

days! I

> would recommend going to a doc who is primarily trained in Oriental

medicine

> as opposed to an MD who took a semester or two of acupuncture

study.

> Depending on where you live, there are usually large numbers of

Doctors of

> Oriental Medicine (acupuncturists) around to choose from. My doc

is Korean.

> I've tried both Chinese and Korean acupuncturists and it seems to

me the

> Korean docs have a lighter touch with the needles.

>

> Another thing that might really help you with all the allergies is

N.A.E.T.

> This has also been a godsend for me, since I suffered for decades

with

> multiple allergies and was down to eating only a handful of foods.

Now I can

> eat anything! They also can do allergy elimination for airborne

pollens, cat

> dander, fabrics, etc. You can check out the main website at

www.NAET.com.

> It is a simple, elegant, easy allergy elimination technique that

has changed

> the concept of how to treat allergies. No more living with it. No

more

> headaches. No more scratch and sniff, under the skin, expensive,

painful

> testing. No more four day rotation diets. The state of the NAET

technique

> today as compared with ten years ago makes allergy elimination

easy, painless

> and relatively convenient and fairly inexpensive. They have a

website

> listing of people trained to do the technique.

>

> One other thing you might put some attention to is your diet.

Consider

> eliminating all soy products as well as foods that fight the

thyroid which

> are called goitrogens and see if you feel better. You can get a

complete

> listing of those foods at www.thyroid.about.com. Best as I can

remember the

> main ones are broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, beet greens, kale,

millet,

> taro, cabbage. Some people get by eating those if they are well

cooked.

> Personally, I can't cheat with much of any of them. And raw

cabbage or

> broccoli--gads-it makes my thyroid hurt! Unfermented soy products

strongly

> suppress the thyroid system in some people. About.thyroid has an

article or

> two about that as well.

>

> I hope this helps. Let us know how your doctor search and testing

goes.

> Then maybe there will be more questions you'll have after that.

>

> Good luck!

> in LA

> " We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or

even *can*

> be. " Oprah Winfrey

[Guest guest]

I agree with the food poisioning theory. LOL Good one, and so true!

I would like to add on to the information on vegetarianism. In this

country vegetarianism too often means vegan. But there are many types

of vegetarian diets, and unfortuantely even they disagree amongst

theirselves as to who is following the best one. haha During the 60s

and 70s raw foods and raw juicing became very popular (cooling

foods). However, I would have to disagree with about.thyroid.com as

to all vegetarian diets being unable to produce enough heat. Its a

matter of which type of vegetarian diet one chooses to follow. One

needs to study either the Ayurvedia or TCM (traditional chinese

medicine) in order to see which food produces heat, which produces

cold, and I am not saying a big study need to be made. (Too time

consuming! ha) Just to pick up one book on the subject would do it.

(Libraries are great for saving $$$.) Than folks could simply look up

the food they wish to eat and see if it is listed as producing cold

or producing heat. Matter of fact, in TCM they do not juice. They say

it is too cooling and generally don't suggest it. I am not

necessarily in 100% agreement with them, but in part I do. (I still

juice! ha but not so much in the winter. And I add a pinch of

cayenne.) I would have to add that meat foods require an awful lot of

heat to break them down and digest them. Well, thats my two cents.

Guess next I should write to Shomon. ha (Nah. j/k)

Prtha

> In a message dated 01/15/2002 10:58:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> muttluver@w... writes:

>

>

> > All the veggies you listed are ones I

> > eat alot of, so maybe that's why I am worse this year. I've been

told

> > to eliminate dairy and grains, so there aren't many things left

to

> > eat. Except for meat, which is my least favorite food, of course.

>

> Bernadette,

>

> Sometimes it feels like Food Prison, for sure!! LOL! I must say

when I

> experimented with vegetarianism in my late twenties, I felt

terrible. Now, I

> read articles on About.thyroid.com that say the diet is hard on

hypothyroids

> because the person already lacks heat and so does the vegetarian

diet! No

> wonder it did nothing for me! But that's all part of the

experience, eh?

>

> I have been searching out foods lately, mainly vegetables that I

can enjoy.

> Those colored peppers are fabulous, eh? And sprouts! I try to use

them a

> lot! I have also gone back to my childhood favorites, green beens

and peas.

> A friend of mine went to Weight Watchers where he was told he had

to eat five

> servings of veggies a day. So, I'm trying to do that just on

principle even

> though I don't want to do a diet! I'm not dieting not because I

can't stand

> to lose the weight but because I hate the feeling of being in food

prison.

> So, I'm trying to eat more veggies, balance them with enough meat

protein and

> some unprocessed carbs. I'm really struggling giving up bread

again even

> though I definitely feel better when I don't eat products made with

wheat

> flour. I had the NAET clearing for wheat done and notice I can eat

whole

> grain wheat with no problem but breads made with flour seem to fuzz

up my

> brain. Has anyone any ideas for eating carbs without eating flour

products?

>

> in LA

> " We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or

even *can*

> be. " Oprah Winfrey

[Guest guest]

http://www.4woman.gov/faq/hashimoto.htm

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic949.htm

go back at least a year and try and read as many posts as you can in

your spare time---

I am sorry to hear this about your health!!! You might just as well

have adrenal issues too if the thyroid medication did this to you so

easy with just 15mg.

http://adrenalfatigue.org/

http://drrind.com/article.asp#diagnosing

> I will try to make a long story short.

> In Sept. of 2001 I had saline breast implants put in. My heatlh

> began to go down hill three months after that. Started out with

heel

> pain, weight gain, hair loss, night sweats,vision trouble, kidney

> trouble, severe joint pain, fatique, and burning skin. I had the

> implants taken out 14 months ago and all of my symptoms have gone

> away, except I knew something was still not right, couldn't lose

> weight no matter what I did. Was same weight and worked out for

last

> 13 years. So three months ago I had my thyroid checked and my

> thryoid is not fuctioning well anymore and I was put on synthroid.

>

> My blood work

> pre implant tsh 1.7

> with implant tsh 5.58

> after removal tsh 4.13

> acouple months ago before meds tsh 4.54 and show thyroid perox.ab

> 1,000 and thyroglobulin ab 110.

>

> I am only on a very small dose 15mg a day. When put on 25, my heart

> was racing and my whole body felt like it was racing but I was very

> tried.

>

> Well here's my question. Every once in a while I get the burning

> skin thing. I have had it for the past three days, its like my

> insides uper part of my body and arms are on fire. Is this

something

> common with thyroid? Or could it be hormoral, my period is due in a

> couple of days.

>

> Thank you for reading this long post.

>

> Cricket

[Guest guest]

Hi Cricket,

I don't know about the burning skin - I get tingly, that is hypothyroid

neuropathy, but never had the burning.

Any major stress to the body such as surgery can cause hypothyroidism,

so it is no surprise. All other symptoms you describe are very common

with hypothyroidism.

Jan

cricket5643000 wrote:

>I will try to make a long story short.

>In Sept. of 2001 I had saline breast implants put in. My heatlh

>began to go down hill three months after that. Started out with heel

>pain, weight gain, hair loss, night sweats,vision trouble, kidney

>trouble, severe joint pain, fatique, and burning skin. I had the

>implants taken out 14 months ago and all of my symptoms have gone

>away, except I knew something was still not right, couldn't lose

>weight no matter what I did. Was same weight and worked out for last

>13 years. So three months ago I had my thyroid checked and my

>thryoid is not fuctioning well anymore and I was put on synthroid.

>

>My blood work

>pre implant tsh 1.7

>with implant tsh 5.58

>after removal tsh 4.13

>acouple months ago before meds tsh 4.54 and show thyroid perox.ab

>1,000 and thyroglobulin ab 110.

>

>I am only on a very small dose 15mg a day. When put on 25, my heart

>was racing and my whole body felt like it was racing but I was very

>tried.

>

>Well here's my question. Every once in a while I get the burning

>skin thing. I have had it for the past three days, its like my

>insides uper part of my body and arms are on fire. Is this something

>common with thyroid? Or could it be hormoral, my period is due in a

>couple of days.

>

>Thank you for reading this long post.

>

>Cricket

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm new to this group. I have a two month old baby girl who has

developed plagiocephaly. At the moment I am pretty angry because

here in the UK there seems to be virtually no information available

about the condition at all. Why on earth aren't we warned about

ensuring our babies don't always sleep with their heads to one side?

Also, my GP has been very dismissive about my concerns, although I

do now have an appointment with a paediatrician.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy

the " Specially For Babies " side positioner in the UK. I can't find

one anywhere!

Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hi -

I'm also in the UK and completely agree with you- it really is

neglectful not to have mentioned this in ante-natal class. On the

plus side, you really sound on top of everything as your daughter is

still very young and you have a real chance to make a difference

through trying repo- I only went to my GP's a 6 months after a

couple of months of thinking her head didn't seem quite right and

was gutted to find I'd missed a key window of opportunity for repo.

Not to put you off goingh to the paediatrician, I definitely would

but i don't think the NHS is very proactive about this, and tend,

from what I understand from other UK members here, to take the 'wait

and see' and then do nothing strategy- they measure the head, mutter

about changing sleeping positions (but don't tell you how to do it)

and then tell you to come back in a month or two. Worth another

opinion though.

Do let us know how you get on- I don't know where you get the side-

positioner- I'd like to know in case I have another one!

Hannah (mum to Lucia, UK)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " sarah_litt " <s_litt@h...>

wrote:

> Hi

> I'm new to this group. I have a two month old baby girl who has

> developed plagiocephaly. At the moment I am pretty angry because

> here in the UK there seems to be virtually no information

available

> about the condition at all. Why on earth aren't we warned about

> ensuring our babies don't always sleep with their heads to one

side?

> Also, my GP has been very dismissive about my concerns, although I

> do now have an appointment with a paediatrician.

> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy

> the " Specially For Babies " side positioner in the UK. I can't

find

> one anywhere!

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I would just like to welcome you to the group. Sorry I've not heard

of the side positioner.

My son had helmet treatment with Dr Blecher in the UK. I was a bit

slow in doing research into plagiocephaly and didn't know about repo

until it was too late. The NHS have just offered me physio after

badgering them for god knows how long (my son is 21 months old). One

pediatrician i've seen has warned me my son may need surgery because

of the muscle tightness and range of movement in his neck.

My point is - you have found out about plagio while your baby girl is

still young enough for treatment. Don't listen to the health

professionals that will try and fob you off.

Good Luck

I hope you find the positioner you are looking for.

Trisha

Freddies mum

--- In Plagiocephaly , " sarah_litt " <s_litt@h...>

wrote:

> Hi

> I'm new to this group. I have a two month old baby girl who has

> developed plagiocephaly. At the moment I am pretty angry because

> here in the UK there seems to be virtually no information available

> about the condition at all. Why on earth aren't we warned about

> ensuring our babies don't always sleep with their heads to one side?

> Also, my GP has been very dismissive about my concerns, although I

> do now have an appointment with a paediatrician.

> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy

> the " Specially For Babies " side positioner in the UK. I can't find

> one anywhere!

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Welcome to the group. Most of us here can feel your frustration at

the lack of plagio education. Your baby is young enough to see great

results from repositioning. Please check out our files and links

section for helpful hints and products. As far as finding a

positioner in your area, are you able to order from babiesrus.com?

You could also try ebay. You can buy sleep positioners in most baby

stores now.

, mom to Hannah, DOCband #3 3/30

Cape Cod, Ma

--- In Plagiocephaly , " sarah_litt " <s_litt@h...>

wrote:

> Hi

> I'm new to this group. I have a two month old baby girl who has

> developed plagiocephaly. At the moment I am pretty angry because

> here in the UK there seems to be virtually no information

available

> about the condition at all. Why on earth aren't we warned about

> ensuring our babies don't always sleep with their heads to one

side?

> Also, my GP has been very dismissive about my concerns, although I

> do now have an appointment with a paediatrician.

> Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can buy

> the " Specially For Babies " side positioner in the UK. I can't

find

> one anywhere!

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , glad to have you on board with the group and the breathing.

Hope you enjoy it!

Chris

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