Re: NEJM Study

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Hi *~,

Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 6:33:26 PM, you wrote:

~O~> However that being so does not change the meaning of the study which found

~O~> that the combination T4,T3 was of much greater benefit than the T4 alone as

~O~> shown on a series of tests the participants took on each. They especially

~O~> mentioned the need for T3 by the brain. Surprise, Surprise:-))

If you took the NEJM study to any mainstream endocrinologist worth his

salt, she/he would point to the two recent studies in The Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism to refute its conclusions. (Be

prepared!!!)

I have read that T3 does *not* cross the blood-brain barrier (at least

not in rats), and thus, if you wanted to increase the T3 concentration

in the brain that you would have to take more T4. However, T3 is used

to augment antidepressants in treatment-resistant depression. I

suspect that there must be some difference between rat brains and

human brains.

[Guest guest]

>

> If you took the NEJM study to any mainstream endocrinologist worth

his

> salt, she/he would point to the two recent studies in The Journal

of

> Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism to refute its conclusions. (Be

> prepared!!!)

>

>

> I have read that T3 does *not* cross the blood-brain barrier (at

least

> not in rats), and thus, if you wanted to increase the T3

concentration

> in the brain that you would have to take more T4. However, T3 is

used

> to augment antidepressants in treatment-resistant depression. I

> suspect that there must be some difference between rat brains and

> human brains.

Wow! This is good stuff! I wonder if patients reporting they feel

better on T-3 are experiencing a placebo effect. I'm always worried

about that in myself. I feel great right now, but I'm thinking,

what if it's just placebo effect and it goes away?

I know for a fact that my body does the placebo effect thing because

whenever I take an antihistamine for an allergy attack (sneezing,

itchy eyes, etc.) I immediately stop sneezing the minute I take the

pill. It could not have gotten into my system in that fraction of a

second while I swallowed it, so my only explanation is placebo

response.

I guess placebo effect isn't all bad. Whatever works, works. I

just can't stop being afraid this good feeling, this feeling of

being free of depression, free of aches and pains etc., is going to

be taken away from me. I just don't know right now if it's placebo

effect or not. Some of the things - body temp, pulse rate - seem to

not be subjective, but I know the mind can influence the body.

I got really mad at doctors telling me my symptoms were all in my

head because my TSH was normal. The truth is, though, they might

have all been in my head - my subconscious might have even been

controlling my pulse rate and temp and causing the ulcers in my

bladder - it's possible - but even if it WAS all in my head, the

psychiatrists and antidepressants and pain pills weren't fixing

anything so it was time to try something else.

Oh, man, I am so sleepy, I want to go to bed but I'm so excited by

this information, this discussion, I don't want to miss anything!

P.S. I wrote to Dr. Mercola (well, to his support staff really) and

tried to tactfully ask if there had been an editing error. I told

them that I really enjoyed his website and found it helpful and was

worried an editing error might damage his credibility and thus his

ability to reach and help audiences. Don't know if they will reply

or fix it, guess we can wait and see.

Gentle

[Guest guest]

Very well put ~OM~ very well put.....

HUgs...PattiSue

NEJM Study

Hi EveryOne,

is right the NEJM study that Dr. Mercola quoted and from whom I took

the information did not specify " Armour " or " Synthroid " . That was evidently

Dr. Mercola's interpretation of it. I got what I had on my webpage from Dr.

Mercola not from the original study.

I just looked up the original study and actually they used two look alike

drugs made for the study one containing just T4 (like Synthroid does) and

one containing T4 plus T3 (like Armour does).

However that being so does not change the meaning of the study which found

that the combination T4,T3 was of much greater benefit than the T4 alone as

shown on a series of tests the participants took on each. They especially

mentioned the need for T3 by the brain. Surprise, Surprise:-))

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

Thyroid-Adrenal Connection: Information and Resources

http://www.bestweb.net/~om/thyroid

[Guest guest]

Gee, I would hope my brain is different than a rats LOL

Hugs...PattiSue

Re: NEJM Study

Hi *~,

Wednesday, February 11, 2004, 6:33:26 PM, you wrote:

~O~> However that being so does not change the meaning of the study which

found

~O~> that the combination T4,T3 was of much greater benefit than the T4 alone

as

~O~> shown on a series of tests the participants took on each. They especially

~O~> mentioned the need for T3 by the brain. Surprise, Surprise:-))

If you took the NEJM study to any mainstream endocrinologist worth his

salt, she/he would point to the two recent studies in The Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism to refute its conclusions. (Be

prepared!!!)

I have read that T3 does *not* cross the blood-brain barrier (at least

not in rats), and thus, if you wanted to increase the T3 concentration

in the brain that you would have to take more T4. However, T3 is used

to augment antidepressants in treatment-resistant depression. I

suspect that there must be some difference between rat brains and

human brains.