Re: A lil' advice from the veterans & others pls - the egg child

[Guest guest]

You mentioned that she's back at the table doing therapy again.

What do you think of the idea of the therapy helping her to

overcome her anxiety about new foods?

I really wouldn't jump right to nut flours from where you are right

now.

How about a banana? Will she try that?

How about meatballs? I know you have tried lots of things.

You have said her receptive language is getting better. Can you

try the one bite of this for one bite of eggs trick?

I am glad to hear of her progress. Now we just have to figure out

how to get her to eat something besides eggs.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 13 months

[Guest guest]

Here's my thoughts - she had regressed so bad and we just got her back. I'm

almost afriad of using therapy to get her to try new foods. She's a " global "

shut down kid. When something becomes aversive it's all over the place - our

therapy at home (while she was in school) was even awful to her bc thiers was

inappropriate. If it were to become negative again, I think I'd freak - she

lost 8 months of her life from thier screw ups. No banana's, I've tried those as

well. Meatballs, I've tried putting them into the speghetti and she freaked,

they aren't supposed to be there, we had never eaten them before so they are a

foriegn object to her.

I've done the try a bite and get eggs, she'll refuse to eat. I only did it for

one day tho, bc I didn't want her to not eat anything. I'd be in big trouble

then.

Tell me about it, those poor chickens are getting overtime bc of this

kiddo!!!! Some have even had to take early retirement!!!!! She's been eating

about 10 to 13 eggs per day!!!!!!

Karyn, Mom to 4.1, dx autism, GF/CF, SCD 3 weeks

You mentioned that she's back at the table doing therapy again.

What do you think of the idea of the therapy helping her to

overcome her anxiety about new foods?

I really wouldn't jump right to nut flours from where you are right

now.

How about a banana? Will she try that?

[Guest guest]

Karyn,

Have you tried meats other than the chicken from the soup? Like

broiled hamburger, or even ground beef browned without any added

oil? Could you scramble some lightly steamed yellow squash or

chicken, or even ground beef into her eggs? Or even steamed

cauliflower? (trying to think of things that would not be TOO

obvious).

The fruits are mostly sweet. If she doesn't like or is not

particularly interested in sweet, what does she like?

What did she like to eat before SCD? Any way you can make something

that looks like whatevre that was?

Then enzymes may help, but it may take awhile.

There are legal graham crackers listed on pecanbread.com recipe

site. They are in the section that " has dairy " , but I know the

recipe creator has said you can make them without the dairy and it

comes out fine. However, I guess I would also recommend you try

not to add nut flour right now. If you feel you must add nut-

something, you might try almond BUTTER, or grind some pecans or

walnuts or hazelnuts into nut BUTTER.

The stages are just a guide, a year ago we didn't have it. But it

is known that nut flour is more difficult to digest, as are raw or

dried fruits/veggies, and coconut for example. I would definitely

NOT try those things at this point.

Congratulations on all the progress, that is wonderful!!

I'm sure it is difficult to think about denying her and maybe

rocking the boat at this point. But you may deicde she just can't

eat eggs for every meal (just like at some point you decided she

could not eat gluten, or grains, or reg. sugar). Maybe she can have

eggs for breakfast, but at lunchtime it is XYZ. Period. And if she

doesn't want to eat that's OK.

That's all I can think of right now. Sounds like you are doing a

terrific job! You know you are on the right track!!

P.S. Do you give an Epsom salt baths, or have you ever given any

supps that have sulfur? Eggs are sulfury, could she he body be

craving sulfur?

-- Sue, mom to Adam and

SCD 4 months

[Guest guest]

Good question!! I've been giving her the Epsom salt baths, just bc it has always

helped her she has been getting at least 2 a week sometimes more.

I'll try some squash in her eggs. I have also been thinking of the eggs 1 meal

and something else period thing. She's doing well. I guess I'm just wondering if

her tummy is calling the shots at this point.

Progress is far outweighing everything the dietary concerns. Maybe I'm asking if

this is ok - is it ok that she eat so many eggs and nothing else. She's been on

enzymes for a year prior to SCD, I just recently got the legal version in so I

started them again.

I know this kid and she will refuse to eat for a legthy time - if it meant

getting her point across. That's something I'm afraid of!!!!

Karyn, Mom to 4.1, dx autism, GF/CF, SCD 3 weeks

Re: A lil' advice from the veterans & others pls - the

egg child

Karyn,

Have you tried meats other than the chicken from the soup? Like

broiled hamburger, or even ground beef browned without any added

oil? Could you scramble some lightly steamed yellow squash or

chicken, or even ground beef into her eggs? Or even steamed

cauliflower? (trying to think of things that would not be TOO

obvious).

The fruits are mostly sweet. If she doesn't like or is not

particularly interested in sweet, what does she like?

What did she like to eat before SCD? Any way you can make something

that looks like whatevre that was?

Then enzymes may help, but it may take awhile.

There are legal graham crackers listed on pecanbread.com recipe

site. They are in the section that " has dairy " , but I know the

recipe creator has said you can make them without the dairy and it

comes out fine. However, I guess I would also recommend you try

not to add nut flour right now. If you feel you must add nut-

something, you might try almond BUTTER, or grind some pecans or

walnuts or hazelnuts into nut BUTTER.

The stages are just a guide, a year ago we didn't have it. But it

is known that nut flour is more difficult to digest, as are raw or

dried fruits/veggies, and coconut for example. I would definitely

NOT try those things at this point.

Congratulations on all the progress, that is wonderful!!

I'm sure it is difficult to think about denying her and maybe

rocking the boat at this point. But you may deicde she just can't

eat eggs for every meal (just like at some point you decided she

could not eat gluten, or grains, or reg. sugar). Maybe she can have

eggs for breakfast, but at lunchtime it is XYZ. Period. And if she

doesn't want to eat that's OK.

That's all I can think of right now. Sounds like you are doing a

terrific job! You know you are on the right track!!

P.S. Do you give an Epsom salt baths, or have you ever given any

supps that have sulfur? Eggs are sulfury, could she he body be

craving sulfur?

-- Sue, mom to Adam and

SCD 4 months

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Karyn,

You said: <<Maybe I'm asking if this is ok - is it ok that she eat so many eggs

and nothing else. >>

I kinda think it actually really isn't OK..... I mean not for more that a short

period. Eggs are a better food than ..... well, say pork rinds..... but still,

she needs a bit more variety eventually.

What happens if you cook the eggs differently? Will she ONLY eat them scrambled?

If so, I would tend to think that this is less a situation of her body craving

something in the eggs than it is just her being rigid and self-limiting.

What would happen if you just " ran out " of eggs? How long do you think she would

go without eating? Has she won similar " tests of wills " before? What if you

could muster up the courage to just act like " no big deal " about her not eating

anything? Make the food available, but don't coax, cajole or force? What if you

were just smiling and singing and cooking..... and eating the food and showing

how much YOU liked it (without overacting, of course)? Would she be expecting

you to fight with her? If so, what if you just didn't? I know it's hard, as a

parent, not to start feeling anxious about a kid not eating.... and even harder

to not SHOW your anxiety, even when it's there all the time.

<<I know this kid and she will refuse to eat for a legthy time - if it meant

getting her point across. That's something I'm afraid of!!!!>>

Does she KNOW you're afraid? If your fear and anxiety just didn't come into

play, would there be no trigger for her refusal?

I'm just letting my imagination wander here.... don't mind me. I don't have

these issues with Katera, so it's easy for me to talk, huh? (I've also been up

since 2 am, cuz Katera is really sick... so... I'm tired and rummy. )

Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 10 months