Guest guest Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 " I know that some people talk about the importance of being 100%...just wonder how much negative effect those illegal supplements will cause. Anyone can share with me their personal experience with that? " No personal experience, but I know that some adults that are doing scd, have seen far better results when they gave up the last bits and pieces of illegals. As these adults can describe very accurately how they feel and what the changes were, I have every reason to believe that this fine-tuning is underestimated. Marjan Netherlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Kym, I don't have personal experience in this either. Is it possible to find legal substitutions for these supplements? If not, the progress you see may be slower. You have to weigh the benefits of these supplements. If you think your child needs these right now, then continue. Maybe after some healing, you can try the diet without them. Also, remember that the stages are a guideline. It is not going to be the same for every child. If you want to try a little oil with your cooking, I say go ahead and see what happens. If there is a negative reaction, then stop. Just my .02! Gia Mom to Jack and , SCD 8 mos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Hello- I don't know about anyone else but we had the same thing with a couple of illegal supplements. I got them in a legal form and went through another significant die-off and came out even better on the other side. We were trully amazed. BRenda Mom to 4 1/2 and KAtie almost 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Hi Kym, (like PD and some herbal things) > which are highly recommended by some health professionals that he is seeing. > > I know that some people talk about the importance of being 100%...just > wonder how much negative effect those illegal supplements will cause. Anyone > can share with me their personal experience with that? Well the primal defense is full of all sorts of illegals. The bifidum alone is something that time and again comes up with causing major GI distress for IBDers. I was doing pretty good at first but eventually I did have the overgrowth that happens with bifidum please read http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/bifidus.htm .. It took me months to recover. Some herbal meds are illegal and can make GI problems worse. You can check on Elaines website for some herbals that are prescribed by some health professionals. Also very early in the diet I had a little bit of illegals that ended up sending me to the ER. It really depends on the individual how much it will take. For me it was a less than 1/4 teaspoon of illegals spread over three days. Not until I cut out all these things did I see improvement in my bowels. If I hadn't given up those small things who knows where I'd be. I certainly would be a heck of a lot sicker and I'd never have gotten a clear picture of how well i could be. > Also, when I review the requirement for different stages, it looks like that > cooking oil can only be used starting from stage 4. Am I right or not? Just > feel that meat without cooking oil tastes very tough and rough sometimes. The stages don't run concurrently. They are meant only as a guideline. This means that when you start the intro you don't want to start with deep fried meats or dried jerky. You want meats to be boiled or broiled at first. The next step is to bake foods and if that is tolerated then start to use oils when cooking and then eventually deep frying or dried meats. At that point you still might not be tolerating raw peeled vegetables or fruits. The use of oil in cooking is seperate than the fruits & veggies. Does that makes sense? > When can herbs generally be added. It depends on the herbs in question. If there is any doubt to its' legality you can check for them on the legal illegal list at http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/legal/legal_illegal_a-c.htm If you can't find it ask the list. > I don't think we will try every food listed for the each stage. So, what > are the indicators for the readiness to move up the stages? Again the stages is just a guideline of how foods are prepared and where they fall in relation to each other. All foods listed don't need to be tried, they are just listed to give people ideas about what could be next. Indicators of readiness are decrease in symptoms. For some that means less gas, less D, less constipation. Again it will depend on the symptoms that the child starts with. If you want you can ask the list more specifically. When you do try a new food. You want to start with small amounts and gradually increase it. For example 1 teaspoon the irst day, skip a day. If all is positive and there is no increase in symptoms increase the third day to 1 & 1/2 tsps to 2 teaspoons. If the child is extremely sensitive go slower. If not you could start with slightly larger amounts. > Thanks for your help. > > Kym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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