Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 True. If the outpatient therapy she received was in a hospital building, the cap does not apply. The cap applies in non hospital settings for outpatient therapy. Rutuja Speech-Language Pathologist. > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving therapy in > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in another > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The therapist in > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services she > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong answer . . > . > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > Mercy-Des Moines > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 False,I am afraid this is misinformation. My understanding is that any therapy monies she spent at a hospital based outpt. facility would count towards the cap if she were to then transfer to a free standing outpatient facitlity not associated with the hospital. There may be, however, other exceptions based on diagnosis or co- morbidities that could be applied, these, and all the rules regarding exceptions to the cap are well explained at the CMS web- site, someone before me posted the link to the transmital, the best advice would be to read that thoroughly to avoid spreading misinformation. E. s, PT, DPT, OCS www.douglasspt.com > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving therapy in > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in another > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The therapist in > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services she > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong answer . . > > . > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Hi , I've never heard of that before. Do you know where you read that? The link to the exceptions process does not describe this and I don't remember seeing it in the Medicare Transmittals I've read. Thanks, Jill Piazza, PT, MSPT Florida Hospital DeLand Re: Medicare cap question False,I am afraid this is misinformation. My understanding is that any therapy monies she spent at a hospital based outpt. facility would count towards the cap if she were to then transfer to a free standing outpatient facitlity not associated with the hospital. There may be, however, other exceptions based on diagnosis or co- morbidities that could be applied, these, and all the rules regarding exceptions to the cap are well explained at the CMS web- site, someone before me posted the link to the transmital, the best advice would be to read that thoroughly to avoid spreading misinformation. E. s, PT, DPT, OCS www.douglasspt.com > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving therapy in > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in another > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The therapist in > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services she > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong answer . . > > . > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Irene, True. Here is the specific reference... " Therefore, effective January 2007, Medicare beneficiaries are subject to a $1780 per beneficiary annual financial limitation on physical therapy services and speech language pathology services and a separate $1780 per beneficiary limitation on occupational therapy services unless they qualify for an exception. The limits apply to outpatient Part B therapy services provided in all settings except outpatient hospitals. " The reference in on the APTA website under 'Medicare'. There is a link to the CMS documentation (Benefit Policy Manual, Program Integrity Manual and Claims Processing Manual). Each document runs 30-45 pages and is fairly technical reading but I recommend any PT manager, owner, corporate compliance person, etc. familiarize themselves with these 'source documents'. They change incrementally every 6 months or so but once you have acquired a thorough understanding the changes are simple. Contact me at timrichpt@... for additional references or information. Tim Tim , PT Medical Arts Rehabilitation, Inc. www.MedicalArtsRehab.com 'Get Better Physical Therapy' > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving therapy in > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in another > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The therapist in > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services she > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong answer . . > . > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Actually any therapy received in an outpatient hospital setting is NOT counted towards the cap! They are the only ones that are exempt from the cap. It does not matter whether they go to an outpatient department at the hospital first or after your facility, it is exempt. It does state this on CMS website! Go to CMS WEBSITE, click on questions, under [section] pick 'MEDICARE', under [enter a search term] type 'PHYSICAL THERAPY IN AN OUTPATIENT SETTING AND CAP', hit enter. This is the link if you want to copy and try it that way. http://questions.cms.hhs.gov/cgi- bin/cmshhs.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php? p_faqid=2821 & p_created=1084973049 & p_sid=fDSrG3Ci & p_accessibility=0 & p_l va= & p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MiZwX 3Byb2RzPTgmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTEuOCZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnM uc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9b3V0cGF0aWVudCBwaHlzaWNhb CB0aGVyYXB5IGluIGhvc3BpdGFsIHNldHRpbmcgYW5kICBjYXA* & p_li= & p_topview=1 All other therapy goes toward the cap but you always have the option of using the KX modifier and being paid. You just have to make sure that the diagnosis is on the list and the rest of the required criteria is met and as always that your documentation supports the services. I am wondering what transmital you were directed to?? Could you let me know? Hope this helps clear up any questions. Debbie Prusack Alternative Medical Billing, Inc. alternativemedbill@... phone fax > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Jill, I stand corrected, I spoke with my practice manager about this and she noted that hospital based monies spent are only subject to the cap if billed under part B, so it would depend on how the outpatient/hospital based facility was structured, if they bill part B, the money spent would count towards the cap when they transfered to a non hospital based facility, if they billed part A, as I understand most do, the monies spent would not count against the cap. Again points to the need to get this type of information directly from CMS and not from a message board, I apologize for the confusion. E. s, PT, DPT, OCS wwww.douglasspt.com > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dear PT Manager, Does any PT Manager member know of a practicing PT who is visually impaired? One of my patients has a son who is visually impaired and very interested in becoming a PT. I do not see how this would be possible but thought I'd bounce it off the Forum here before I passed my opinion on to them. I am thinking that speech pathology would be a better bet since the observation portion of the evaluation would likely be minimal. Any SLP's who would like to offer their opinion? Joe Ruzich, PT Pueblo, CO _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of mom4td Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Medicare cap question http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Tim, Thank you for providing the direct qoute from CMS. To Rutuja, it appears that it is I who has been spreading misinformation on this subject, something I so rudely accused you of on a previous post, please accept my humble apology. E. s, PT, DPT, OCS www.douglasspt.com > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving therapy in > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in another > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The therapist in > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services she > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong answer . . > > . > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 From: Garner, Lynne Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:01 PM To: Bartlett, Irene Subject: RE: Re: Medicare cap question It depends on the visual impairment; however speech pathology would be difficult as there is so much nonverbal communication involved (for both children and adults). I would have the individual discuss the profession with university staff and also participate in job shadowing. Lynne Garner, SLP ________________________________ ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of Joe Ruzich Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:44 AM To: PTManager Subject: RE: Re: Medicare cap question Dear PT Manager, Does any PT Manager member know of a practicing PT who is visually impaired? One of my patients has a son who is visually impaired and very interested in becoming a PT. I do not see how this would be possible but thought I'd bounce it off the Forum here before I passed my opinion on to them. I am thinking that speech pathology would be a better bet since the observation portion of the evaluation would likely be minimal. Any SLP's who would like to offer their opinion? Joe Ruzich, PT Pueblo, CO _____ From: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of mom4td Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: PTManager <mailto:PTManager%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Medicare cap question http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> > hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> > hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 I do not know personally of a visually impaired practicing PT, but I do know that one of the faculty at Marquette University went to Lithuania for a year to instruct in their PT program. I know he had two blind students in his classes. He teaches Kinesiology and felt that both individuals were some of his strongest students in the class. I would not rule out the possibility that this population could become effective clinicians. Besides, isn't the profession about (among other things) breaking stereotypes of what can and cant be done with various disabilities. You haven't seen anything, until you have seen bungi jumping in a a wheelchair!! Doug Mazur MS PT Pinnacle Physical Therapy Joe Ruzich wrote: Dear PT Manager, Does any PT Manager member know of a practicing PT who is visually impaired? One of my patients has a son who is visually impaired and very interested in becoming a PT. I do not see how this would be possible but thought I'd bounce it off the Forum here before I passed my opinion on to them. I am thinking that speech pathology would be a better bet since the observation portion of the evaluation would likely be minimal. Any SLP's who would like to offer their opinion? Joe Ruzich, PT Pueblo, CO _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of mom4td Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Medicare cap question http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Dear Joe, Contact Herm Triezenburg or Mostrom at Central Michigan University in Mt. Pleasant, MI. They are both professors who have worked with a visually impaired therapist. They could give you a good idea of what is needed. Jill Sedmak, MSPT, ATC Director of Therapy Clinton Twp, MI Joe Ruzich wrote: Dear PT Manager, Does any PT Manager member know of a practicing PT who is visually impaired? One of my patients has a son who is visually impaired and very interested in becoming a PT. I do not see how this would be possible but thought I'd bounce it off the Forum here before I passed my opinion on to them. I am thinking that speech pathology would be a better bet since the observation portion of the evaluation would likely be minimal. Any SLP's who would like to offer their opinion? Joe Ruzich, PT Pueblo, CO _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of mom4td Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Medicare cap question http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Joe, One of my best instructors in school was visually impaired. His name was Jerry Lee. He didn't talk about it openly very much but he was also a chiropractor (so he could have direct access). He would always let us know that people hired us for our brains not our bodies. This was reassuring as we are all getting older. Jerry was the Therapeutic Exercise instructor at TWU in the late 80's and was pushing the development of differential diagnosis which he was amazing at. I know he left them for another school but I am not sure where he is now. If your friend can find him, visually impaired or not he would benefit greatly. s- PT, Cert MDT Bronson Methodist Hospital Rehabilitation Educator sB@... (269)544-3230 Ext. 218 (269)212-0990 Pager (269)544-3238 fax Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review; use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. " >>> " Joe Ruzich " 5/21/2007 11:43 AM >>> Dear PT Manager, Does any PT Manager member know of a practicing PT who is visually impaired? One of my patients has a son who is visually impaired and very interested in becoming a PT. I do not see how this would be possible but thought I'd bounce it off the Forum here before I passed my opinion on to them. I am thinking that speech pathology would be a better bet since the observation portion of the evaluation would likely be minimal. Any SLP's who would like to offer their opinion? Joe Ruzich, PT Pueblo, CO _____ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of mom4td Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 7:28 AM To: PTManager Subject: Re: Medicare cap question http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp <http://www.cms. <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp> PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was developed to explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy services. The Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under Part B for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services provided in outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed before the Deficit Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for exception from the caps. Cheri Freeman, CMRS Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > therapy in > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > another > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > therapist in > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > she > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > answer . . > > > . > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 I'd have to agree. It is difficult for any of us who do not have disabilities to imagine the possiblities. At my husband's PT school commencement ceremony, their keynote speaker was an O.T. who was born without arms. She is an amazing O.T. and an inspiration to both her patients and those around her. She truly exemplifies what can be done despite a limitation. Jill Piazza, PT, MSPT Florida Hospital DeLand Re: Medicare cap question > > http://www.cms. > <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp>hhs.gov/TherapyServic\ es/03_therapycaps.asp > <http://www.cms. > <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp>hhs.gov/TherapyServic\ es/03_therapycaps.asp> > > PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy Caps > > The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section below) was > developedto explain the financial limitation on outpatient therapy > services. The > Social Security Act provides for a limit to services paid under > Part B > for outpatient therapy services, with the exception of services > providedin outpatient hospitals. These slides were developed > before the Deficit > Reduction Act and are applicable to those providers, suppliers and > beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are not eligible for > exception from the caps. > > Cheri Freeman, CMRS > > Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who has been receiving > > therapy in > > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is now being seen in > > another > > > > city for a different problem in a private PT clinic. The > > therapist in > > > > the private clinic tells the patient that the previous services > > she > > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the patient the wrong > > answer . . > > > > . > > > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Jill In the past couple of years I have run across an OT from Cedar Rapids, IA that lives in Florida. She was born without any arms and has always done everything without them-including finishing third in the State Diving championship in High School and driving a car. Her name was Stoecker (I am pretty sure that I have misspelled her name), but she might be married and have a different name now. I suspect that with the right attitude, anyone could do just about anything-except of course Stevie Wonder and the late Ray being able to drive a bus. Jim <///>< ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Hi Jill I have a question for you, if you feel comfortable answering. If you utilize Rehab aides what is your average hourly rate? Mine goes from $7 something to $10.42. Also what is your prn rate for therapist? Mine is $35 for all discplines and I was told last week by a ST that is a low figure and she usually averages closer to $50. I suspect that is mainly in the SNF/HH arena. I am awaiting our survey results from HR but am having some staffing issues with our aides right now and the survey won't be here till mid June. If you can share thanks in advance. If you feel more comfortable sharing over the phone, you can call me at 819-4323. Laurie --- japiazza@... wrote: > I'd have to agree. It is difficult for any of us > who do not have disabilities to imagine the > possiblities. At my husband's PT school > commencement ceremony, their keynote speaker was an > O.T. who was born without arms. She is an amazing > O.T. and an inspiration to both her patients and > those around her. She truly exemplifies what can be > done despite a limitation. > > Jill Piazza, PT, MSPT > Florida Hospital DeLand > > Re: Medicare cap question > > > > http://www.cms. > > > <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp>hhs.gov/TherapyServic\ es/03_therapycaps.asp > > > <http://www.cms. > > > <http://www.cms.hhs.gov/TherapyServices/03_therapycaps.asp>hhs.gov/TherapyServic\ es/03_therapycaps.asp> > > > > > PowerPoint Presentation for Outpatient Therapy > Caps > > > > The PowerPoint Presentation (see Downloads section > below) was > > developedto explain the financial limitation on > outpatient therapy > > services. The > > Social Security Act provides for a limit to > services paid under > > Part B > > for outpatient therapy services, with the > exception of services > > providedin outpatient hospitals. These slides were > developed > > before the Deficit > > Reduction Act and are applicable to those > providers, suppliers and > > beneficiaries who are subject to the caps and are > not eligible for > > exception from the caps. > > > > Cheri Freeman, CMRS > > > > Mountain View Physical Therapy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A situation just arose with a patient who > has been receiving > > > therapy in > > > > > our hospital-based outpatient clinic. She is > now being seen in > > > another > > > > > city for a different problem in a private PT > clinic. The > > > therapist in > > > > > the private clinic tells the patient that > the previous services > > > she > > > > > received does not " count " toward the cap. > > > > > > > > > > True or False?? We don't want to give the > patient the wrong > > > answer . . > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Irene Bartlett, Rehab Director > > > > > Mercy-Des Moines > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] === message truncated === ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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