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> a couple of weeks ago i found a site on the internet that listed

> various things tested in bloodwork and what their levels should be for

> a person in good health and for someone with renal problems. i cannot

> find it anymore. does anyone have any idea where i may have seen it?

Could this be it?

http://www.coloradohealthsite.org/dialysis/bc/blood_chem.html

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Re: Lab Results

> a couple of weeks ago i found a site on the internet that listed

> various things tested in bloodwork and what their levels should be for

> a person in good health and for someone with renal problems. i cannot

> find it anymore. does anyone have any idea where i may have seen it?

Could this be it?

http://www.coloradohealthsite.org/dialysis/bc/blood_chem.html

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Pardon me, that should read " elevated liver enzymes " .

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel:

Every thing normal except ALT/SGPT(U/L) which is 80 (Normal Range

25-65). Doc says this is elevated enzymes and needs to be watched. Is

there a correlation with this and HypoT?

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Ferritin is not in the regular CBC, that would have to be ordered

separate and if you asked for it and she did not do it--well, it

matches what I think of her below......and if she did not order the

Free T3 as you asked for she did not overlook it....she is just

another idiot....the high liver enzymes are no doubt from taking

cholesterol lowering drug/drugs and should be watched

carefully!!!!!....and your gut instinct is right....her raising the

synthroid AGAIN and making you wait and then will THINK about giving

you Armour is a RED FLAG in my book....sue in TN

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> OK I got my labs back. Lipid Panel show Cholesterols and

Triglycerides

> normal, but I am on meds for that. Hoping that getting thyroid

> straightened out will resolve that problem and I can drop this.

>

> Comprehensive Metabolic Panel:

> Every thing normal except ALT/SGPT(U/L) which is 80 (Normal Range

> 25-65). Doc says this is elevated enzymes and needs to be watched.

Is

> there a correlation with this and HypoT?

>

> Ferretin: Don't see it listed although I'm sure its there. Doc

did a

> CBC and Comprehensive Metabolic Panel. How might it be listed?

>

> Thyroglobulin, Qn:

> 258.0 Limit= 0.5-55.0

> Doc says this points to Hashimottos. My question: Is tis

moderately

> high, extremely high or disastrously high?

>

> Free T4:

> 1.07 Limit= 0.71-1.85

>

> Free T3:

> Doc didn't test for this. I asked for it, but she must have

overlooked

> it.

>

> TSH:

> 2.71 Range 0.34-4.89

> I now know this should be 0.3-3.40.

>

> I asked for Armour two weeks ago. She ordered above blood work and

> upped my dosage of synthroid from 75mcg to 112mcg . Wants me to

stay on

> that for four more weeks(totoal of 6) to see if it helps and then

says

> she will consider Armour if I'm not better. I am loosing my

patience

> and considering traveling to one of the Docs on the Top Docs list.

>

> Thanks in advance for comments.

>

>

> Blessings,

> Debbie K.

>

>

>

>

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> Ferritin is not in the regular CBC, that would have to be ordered

> separate and if you asked for it and she did not do it--well, it

> matches what I think of her below......and if she did not order the

> Free T3 as you asked for she did not overlook it....she is just

> another idiot....the high liver enzymes are no doubt from taking

> cholesterol lowering drug/drugs and should be watched

> carefully!!!!!....and your gut instinct is right....her raising the

> synthroid AGAIN and making you wait and then will THINK about

giving

> you Armour is a RED FLAG in my book....sue in TN

Oh boy! I agree that the cholesterol lowering drugs are responsible

for the liver enzymes elevation...I missed the fact you were on those

drugs...I am SO AGAINST those, I can't even begin to tell you...I

brought my hubby's down from genetically high cholesterol and high

triglycerides in the 400's in his 20's to 216 in his 50's by giving

him Armour..of course, we did some other things nutritionally for

several years...but my doct says that he is all for thryiong Armour

on someone with high cholestrol if they have ANY other signs of

hypo. Get a doc who will give you Armour..I agree!!

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Maybe it's because I'm haveing to take the blood pressure and

cholesterol medicine. Again, I hope to get off that when I get on the

Armour.

Re: Lab Results

> Pardon me, that should read " elevated liver enzymes " .

>

> Comprehensive Metabolic Panel:

> Every thing normal except ALT/SGPT(U/L) which is 80 (Normal Range

> 25-65). Doc says this is elevated enzymes and needs to be watched.

Is

> there a correlation with this and HypoT?

No - I don't believe there is a correlation with hypothyroidism, but

I have seen it happen in people's bloodwork, either something they

are taking orally is stressing their liver or the enzymes (meaning

liver cells are dying) are inexplicably high and then go back down to

normal....all can say is that it seems to happen and then disappear

again. I have seen it more often with people on synthroid...maybe

the liver doesn't deal with it as well as Armour?? Not sure. But I

don't feel this slight elevation is something to be concerned about

at this time.

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My cholesterol was 234 and rising when I went on Armour. When I was at my peak

4 months later...my cholesterol was at perfect range...152. I can't remember

all of my numbers..just the main one. The doc (my family doc..still needing to

be a believer in ARmour 100%) was awe struck. I think that he wanted to

explain it away because I lost all of the the 40 lbs. That isn't the only

reason I dropped in cholesterol. The Armour did the most work.

Hugs...Patti

Re: Lab Results

> Pardon me, that should read " elevated liver enzymes " .

>

> Comprehensive Metabolic Panel:

> Every thing normal except ALT/SGPT(U/L) which is 80 (Normal Range

> 25-65). Doc says this is elevated enzymes and needs to be watched.

Is

> there a correlation with this and HypoT?

No - I don't believe there is a correlation with hypothyroidism, but

I have seen it happen in people's bloodwork, either something they

are taking orally is stressing their liver or the enzymes (meaning

liver cells are dying) are inexplicably high and then go back down to

normal....all can say is that it seems to happen and then disappear

again. I have seen it more often with people on synthroid...maybe

the liver doesn't deal with it as well as Armour?? Not sure. But I

don't feel this slight elevation is something to be concerned about

at this time.

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> Maybe it's because I'm haveing to take the blood pressure and

> cholesterol medicine. Again, I hope to get off that when I get on

the

> Armour.

>

>I have read that blood pressure medication blocks thyroid

medicine....I remember it was written here that that is the antidote

to being hyperthyroid from medication...but I think it can take

an " average " thyroid person and make them hypo just from the

medicine...that was the gist of what I read anyway.

The ironic thing is, once you treat the thryoid condition, often the

blood pressure goes down just from that, and you don't need the blood

pressure medicine. But in order for the Armour to work, you gotta go

off blood pressure medication so it's a Catch 22...

Gentle

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Thanks for all the input on my labs. You guys are great!

Does anyone have any comments on my thyroid antibiodies? It was 258

(lab range 0.5 to 55.0). I'm just wondering if this is moderately high

or disastrously high?

Thanks

Debbie

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I've known women to have their antibodies in the 2000. That is definately

hashi's...even at your level./

Hugs..Patti

Re: Lab Results

Thanks for all the input on my labs. You guys are great!

Does anyone have any comments on my thyroid antibiodies? It was 258

(lab range 0.5 to 55.0). I'm just wondering if this is moderately high

or disastrously high?

Thanks

Debbie

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Hi, Patti,

While taking Synthroid or Levoxyl, my Cholesterol and

Triglycerides were nearly double the high end of the ranges. They both

dropped to half within a month of starting Armour. Three months later,

they were both within the normal range. Nothing else had been tried to

lower them. ly, I admit to feeling so awful at the time that I really

didn't care if a heart attack killed me.

Dianne

At 10:39 AM 2/4/04 -0500, you wrote:

>My cholesterol was 234 and rising when I went on Armour. When I was at my

>peak 4 months later...my cholesterol was at perfect range...152. I can't

>remember all of my numbers..just the main one. The doc (my family

>doc..still needing to be a believer in ARmour 100%) was awe struck. I

>think that he wanted to explain it away because I lost all of the the 40

>lbs. That isn't the only reason I dropped in cholesterol. The Armour did

>the most work.

>Hugs...Patti

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Just wanted to add that my Aunt was able to go completely off her blood

pressure medicine when she got on the atkins diet and kept her carbs under 20

grams

per day.....later she went off the diet and had to go back on her meds...also

something I learned is that many many people that snore have high blood

pressure..so something to think about.

Blessings,

Loriann

> Maybe it's because I'm haveing to take the blood pressure and

> cholesterol medicine. Again, I hope to get off that when I get on the

> Armour.

>

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Hi, Gentle,

The more I think about it, the more I am thinking that a TSH of

" 0 " would be ideal.... Of course trying to get my doctor to let it get

that low would be a problem.... Darned numbers!

Dianne

At 06:14 AM 2/5/04, you wrote:

>Good for you, Dianne! I hope the Armour will help me with my

>cholesterol, too. All my adult life it's been too high desite heroic

>efforts at exercising (running 6-8 miles per day) and eating " right "

>(tried vegetarian, tried Atkins...)

>

>Just another sign of hypo (one of many, many, many I had) that the

>doctors were all too willing to attribute to anything BUT thyroid

>since my TSH was " normal. "

>

>Gentle

>

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