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Hi Laurie,

Yup, it is easy to refill and stuff. I just got my new insulin pens.

Unfortunately, my endrocronologist did not respond to there fax request for

a refill so I had to call and have them send me it and then I had to mail it

in. I am ready to ditch them. The diabetic clinic at one of the hospitals

closed and since then they have not responded to my request for a new

appointment. At the may 28 appt the receptionist said she would mail it to

me. Nothing yet and the phone is always busy.

I am going to make an appointment with my gp to discuss ditching them.

Anyway, for me at Walgreens I need to pay only $9 for a month supply of any

of my drugs. It is $9 for a 3 month supply thru my insurance plan thru

Medco Health. Basically, I am paying $6 a month more to go to Walgreens.

It is about 2 blocks from where I work but I guess it is still money so I

need to get that gp appointment. I still would drop off my sharps container

there though--they provide and dispose of them free.

Thanks for all the info though--Tricare still does not cover " vitamins " such

as CoQ10.. oh well

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> >

> >

> >> Just to add a side note on availability. Believe it or not, Carnitor

> >> is now on the Preferred Drug list for Merck-Medco Mail Order

> >> Pharmacy! And that's supposed to be the largest mail order pharmacy

> >> in the country. I was shocked, but pleased to discover that when our

> >> health insurance switched over in May. Usually the Preferred Drugs

> >> lists are commonly used, reasonably priced drugs, and Carnitor is

> >> neither as far as I know. But I'm just glad I got it so easily this

> >> time and for a very low co-pay. Once in a while, things go our way!

> >>

> >> Barbara

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>> ,

> >>>> Thank you for the info. Does that mean I could get a

> >> prescription

> >>> for

> >>>> Carnitor?

> >>>>

> >>>> Thanks, Robin

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Oh--I have to pay only the copay amount at Walgreens because they are in the

" network " I did not know that last February and Tricare would not

reimburse $32 for the insulin pens when I first got them. I finally got my

money and am in the Walgreens computers now all over the country as having

to pay only the copay amount.

Re: Carnitor

> >

> >

> >> Just to add a side note on availability. Believe it or not, Carnitor

> >> is now on the Preferred Drug list for Merck-Medco Mail Order

> >> Pharmacy! And that's supposed to be the largest mail order pharmacy

> >> in the country. I was shocked, but pleased to discover that when our

> >> health insurance switched over in May. Usually the Preferred Drugs

> >> lists are commonly used, reasonably priced drugs, and Carnitor is

> >> neither as far as I know. But I'm just glad I got it so easily this

> >> time and for a very low co-pay. Once in a while, things go our way!

> >>

> >> Barbara

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>>> ,

> >>>> Thank you for the info. Does that mean I could get a

> >> prescription

> >>> for

> >>>> Carnitor?

> >>>>

> >>>> Thanks, Robin

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained

> > herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of

this

> > e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are

reminded of

> > their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult

> > with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

> >>

> >>

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Laurie,

Thanks. That is some sort of a relief to know that not everyone has the odor problem. I was starting to think my already non-existant social life was going to get worse. :o)

He wants me to take 660 mg twice a day. How much are you taking? Has it helped you?

Thanks

Sheila

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Laurie,

I just picked up my first prescription of Carnitor. Dr. Korson wants me to take 660mg twice a day.

The prescription after my insurace paid a whopping $14.35, cost me $75.50 out of my pocket. Does this sound correct?

I cannot even imagine adding the cost of CoQ10 to that.

I do not have the time, energy or the money for this disease!!!

Sheila

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I had problems when I only took the Carnitor. After adding the CoQ10, I

have had no problems with the odor since they work together.

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> Sheila,

>

> I have not have odor problems with Carnitor either........FYI

>

> Eileen

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>

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Sheila

I take 990 mg three times a day. It has helped in conjunction with the other supplements. I really feel like I am holding my own for now and that is a good feeling.

Laurie

Laurie,

Thanks. That is some sort of a relief to know that not everyone has the odor problem. I was starting to think my already non-existant social life was going to get worse. :o)

He wants me to take 660 mg twice a day. How much are you taking? Has it helped you?

Thanks

Sheila

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Ok. I think I just got a little bit better news.

I called the pharmacy, and then my insurance company. I have a $75.00 deductible (which I obviously have now reached), and for the rest of the year the Carnitor will only cost me $3.07 per perscription. Now that sounds much better!

Now if I could only get the insurance to cover the CoQ10.

Dr. Korson said that we can battle the insurance company over the CoQ10, but he wants to wait to see if I actually need it and if it works for me first.

Sheila

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Shelia,

My insurance is billed about $160.00 a month for my carnitor and my

co-pay is $20.00. No, this disease is NOT cheap!!!

Smz143@... wrote:

>

> Laurie,

>

> I just picked up my first prescription of Carnitor. Dr. Korson wants

> me to take 660mg twice a day.

> The prescription after my insurace paid a whopping $14.35, cost me

> $75.50 out of my pocket. Does this sound correct?

> I cannot even imagine adding the cost of CoQ10 to that.

> I do not have the time, energy or the money for this disease!!!

>

> Sheila

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained

> herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of

> this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are

> reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the

> postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their

> own treatment.

>

>

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Sheila

That is good news. The beginning of the year hits hard with those deductibles.

laurie

Ok. I think I just got a little bit better news.

I called the pharmacy, and then my insurance company. I have a $75.00 deductible (which I obviously have now reached), and for the rest of the year the Carnitor will only cost me $3.07 per perscription. Now that sounds much better!

Now if I could only get the insurance to cover the CoQ10.

Dr. Korson said that we can battle the insurance company over the CoQ10, but he wants to wait to see if I actually need it and if it works for me first.

Sheila

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the disease cost a bloody fortune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eileen

To many time it do I bye food or my medicine and we should not have two have

pick of that -- that is not a choice -- we need both.

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Ann-Marie

The Carnitor tablets are larger than aspirin and they can get stuck sideways at times. Of course it could be because I take 3 of them and 4 CoQ at the same time. My mother takes the liquid and has never complained about the taste. It isn't as convenient as the tablets if not at home.

laurie

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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:20:57 -0400

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Subject: Carnitor

Hi Guys,

For those of you who take " Carnitor " do you take the tablets or the liquid?

What does the liquid taste like? And how " BIG " are the tablets(pills)? I heard they are HUGE. I gag on pills of any size.

I have my Pharmacy ordering it for me tomorrow, but am wondering if I should have them order the liquid instead of the tablet form of it.

Any suggestions or thoughts are welcomed!!

Hugs,

Ann-Marie

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I am new to taking Carnitor.

From my brief experience, the pills are not fun. They are kind of large, and

they disolve quickly. I have gagged many times taking them.

If you have trouble taking pills, you might want to let your doctor know.

Just my 2 cents

Sheila :o)

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My two boys take it in pill form. It is easily snapped in half with your fingers HOWEVER, you have to take it right away as it will disintergrate quickly.

Don't know anything about how the liquid tastes. The pills have a fishy odor....but it doesn't bug the boys.

Carol

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Hi Shelia,

Thanks for your experience taking the Carnitor. I gag quite easily so I

decided to go with the liquid.

And I didn't know that they disolve quickly. Thanks for telling me. I don't

want to taste them going all the way down my throat. UCK!!

I know you stated that you are new to taking the Carnitor but can you tell

me your experiences with it and have you seen any difference on it? good or

bad??

HUgs,

ann-Marie

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> I am new to taking Carnitor.

> From my brief experience, the pills are not fun. They are kind of large,

and they disolve quickly. I have gagged many times taking them.

> If you have trouble taking pills, you might want to let your doctor know.

>

> Just my 2 cents

> Sheila :o)

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained

herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this

e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of

their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult

with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

>

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Carol,

I used to get a fish type body odor from the Carnitor until I also started

taking CoQ10 also. They work together synergistically.

> Carol DuPont wrote:

>

> Hey Ann-Marie:

>

> I think the liquid form is flavored...what flavor, I don't know.

>

> I have heard that if you are taking too much Carnitor for your body to handle

you can have a side effect of diarreha and you can actually get a fishy smell to

your body. I have only heard of these

> side effects with kids. Fortunately, my kids have had neither problem.

>

> Neal, my youngest, says the pills smell like a Bass! The whine a little about

the other vitamins which are compounded because there is a vitamin taste but

they chase it down with a swallow of

> o.j.. Basically, I think my kids will complain about anything!!!! Both kids

have noticed that they feel better on the meds. However, we are in the middle

of a heat wave here (in Philly) and they

> are both pretty lethargic right now. I kept Neal home from riding camp today

because of the heat.

>

>

> Good luck with the Carnitor. I'm anxious to start taking it myself but I'm

waiting for my labs to come back next week and a decision on getting a biopsy

before I start taking it, along with the

> other vitamins.

>

> Carol

>

>

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Hey Ann-Marie:

I think the liquid form is flavored...what flavor, I don't know.

I have heard that if you are taking too much Carnitor for your body to handle you can have a side effect of diarreha and you can actually get a fishy smell to your body. I have only heard of these side effects with kids. Fortunately, my kids have had neither problem.

Neal, my youngest, says the pills smell like a Bass! The whine a little about the other vitamins which are compounded because there is a vitamin taste but they chase it down with a swallow of o.j.. Basically, I think my kids will complain about anything!!!! Both kids have noticed that they feel better on the meds. However, we are in the middle of a heat wave here (in Philly) and they are both pretty lethargic right now. I kept Neal home from riding camp today because of the heat.

Good luck with the Carnitor. I'm anxious to start taking it myself but I'm waiting for my labs to come back next week and a decision on getting a biopsy before I start taking it, along with the other vitamins.

Carol

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Hi

I have a question....Are L-Carnitine, and Carnitor the same drug ?? I take L_Carnitine (or Was)...but I can't swallow them anymore They are sooo big. I can't put them with my other pills in my daily pill box, because they kind of dissolve, and they smell like fish. I'm suppose to be on 4000 mg/day and now that I can't swallow them , I wonder if anyone else has any ideas ?? I know I'm getting weakness in my throat, because when I feel tired it's hard to swallow alot of things. Any ideas ???

Thanks,

robin

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Anne-Marie,

The liquid form has a cherry taste to it, and isn't too bad. I put it

in a glass of juice and drank it that way when I was taking the

liquid form and it worked quite well. Good luck :)

Nikki :)

> > Carol DuPont wrote:

> >

> > Hey Ann-Marie:

> >

> > I think the liquid form is flavored...what flavor, I don't know.

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Sorry, I hit send before I was done typing :) (oops). I meant to say

the taste worked quite well when I mixed it in my juice. I had

switched to liquid because of the GI side effects from the pills.

When I switched to the liquid, my body didn't process it correctly

and I got worse pretty quickly. I then had to switch back to the

pills and I just deal with the side effects. The pills do have a

fishy odor, and I can taste a fishy taste to them. If you pop em in

your mouth pretty quickly and then swallow its not TOO bad. I always

pop a mint in my mouth afterwards to counteract the taste. If you

can't stand the taste of them, I do have some ways to make it better.

Let me know if you want the " Recipes " hehe :)

Nikki :)

> Anne-Marie,

>

> The liquid form has a cherry taste to it, and isn't too bad. I put

it

> in a glass of juice and drank it that way when I was taking the

> liquid form and it worked quite well. Good luck :)

>

> Nikki :)

>

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When Nikki first started taking the pill form of carnitor, she had no

problem swallowing the horse sized pills. It was the taste that made

her want to say no way. I have done lots of things to disguise the

taste, from crushing them into a spoonful of ice cream, applesauce,

pudding etc to melting a few chocolate chips and putting the crushed

carnitor in that. To make them into chocolate candy wafers, I would

place some chocolate chips in a glass dish, melt them in the

microwave. Then I would take a teaspoon of the melted chocolate, put

that into a tiny little plastic cup/dish. Crush the carnitor pill,

add it into the melted chocolate, stir well, add crushed peanuts,

tiny marshmallows, etc. Repeat this for each dose making up a whole

days worth of doses at a time. Place all the tiny cups into the

fridge till its time to give that dose. Wahla! Lifesaving chocolate!

lol. Most days now though Nik just pops em in her mouth, swallows

fast and then sucks on peppermint. Come to think of it, maybe Nik is

just looking for ways to get candy. hmmmmmm hehehe :)

Juli (Nikki's mom)

> Hi Shelia,

>

> Thanks for your experience taking the Carnitor. I gag quite easily

so I

> decided to go with the liquid.

>

> And I didn't know that they disolve quickly. Thanks for telling me.

I don't

> want to taste them going all the way down my throat. UCK!!

>

> I know you stated that you are new to taking the Carnitor but can

you tell

> me your experiences with it and have you seen any difference on it?

good or

> bad??

>

> HUgs,

> ann-Marie

>

> Re: Carnitor

>

>

> > I am new to taking Carnitor.

> > From my brief experience, the pills are not fun. They are kind

of large,

> and they disolve quickly. I have gagged many times taking them.

> > If you have trouble taking pills, you might want to let your

doctor know.

> >

> > Just my 2 cents

> > Sheila :o)

> >

> > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

contained

> herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author

of this

> e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are

reminded of

> their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and

consult

> with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

> >

> >

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Yes and no. Carnitor is the Rx pure form of L-Carnitine where the stuff in the

health food stores, etc. is different strengths from bottle to bottle and has

many fillers that aren't good for people.

Middpowell@... wrote:

>

> Hi

> I have a question....Are L-Carnitine, and Carnitor the same drug ?? I take

L_Carnitine (or Was)...but I can't swallow them anymore They are sooo big. I

can't put them with my other pills in my

> daily pill box, because they kind of dissolve, and they smell like fish. I'm

suppose to be on 4000 mg/day and now that I can't swallow them , I wonder if

anyone else has any ideas ?? I know I'm

> getting weakness in my throat, because when I feel tired it's hard to swallow

alot of things. Any ideas ???

> Thanks,

> robin

>

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Hi Carol,

The liquid form is gross. My sibs and my mother have no trouble

taking it; however, it makes me gag. It has a very oily texture to

me, and I get a really upset stomach not too long after ingesting

it. I'm on 1200mg a day. Because the HMO (gotta love em'!)will only

pay for 12oz a month, I have to purchase three big bottles of L-

carnatine from a health food store. When I buy it from the health

food store I buy a vanilla flavor, and it is silghtly more tolerable.

:-)

D.

(21 yo Mito)

> My two boys take it in pill form. It is easily snapped in half

with your fingers HOWEVER, you have to take it right away as it will

disintergrate quickly.

>

> Don't know anything about how the liquid tastes. The pills have a

fishy odor....but it doesn't bug the boys.

>

> Carol

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-Robin,

Yes, at least if you are in the US. I know it is harder to come by

in Europe in places.

-- In @y..., Middpowell@a... wrote:

> ,

> Thank you for the info. Does that mean I could get a prescription

for

> Carnitor?

>

> Thanks, Robin

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