Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. jo My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > Thanks, > Martha > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I keep seeing posts about Iodine and bad reactions so I wanted to reply even tho i usually just read. My son and I have been on Iodine replacement for 2 months. I personally believe the root cause of all of it (autism, adhd, depression, bipolar, auto-immune, everything!) is a malfunctioning thyroid (injured by vaccines) and Iodine deficiency, but i digress and didnt want to go into a long post about my theory, I belive Iodine is the key to the cure. The initial " bad " reaction can be likened to die off. Mine lasted about 2 weeks, was about as bad as a flu/cold. The improvments are nothing short of astounding. I have lost weight(25 lbs), depression, fungus, bacteria and most likely latent viruses. My mood and energy is remarkabley changed. My son's initial reaction was worse than mine (he's non verbal ASD and probably more latent viruses etc.) so i did lower the dosage and then pushed thru. It took about 2 weeks to level off. There has been no bad reaction since, even tho i increased him back to 3 drops per day. He is now at 4 drops per day. I am at 5. Lugols solution 2%. So I do believe that once you start the iodine the die off is what people are experiencing that experience a bad reaction. The more bacteria, yeast, fungus, virus, etc may determine how bad the reaction and a lower dosage may be warranted if the symptoms are too severe. It could also be the temporary Iodine increase in the thyroid causes hypothyroid symtoms, but that would level off too once the thyroid relearns how much it should " hold " . But getting thru that inital discomfort knowing it wont come back can help. had many behaviors that have been controlled somewhat thru biomed (taurine, mb12, gaba, relora, etc) but never eliminated. If the biomed stopped the behaviors returned. Now, those behaviors are dissappearing completely with iodine replacement. His attention is much better. His verbal " chatter " is increasing.He has many more calm moments. I have smelled the same metallic smell in his BMs as when chelating. His acne is all but gone. He is losing body fat noticably now but I havent weighed him. The changes in him the last 2 months are nothing I ever saw with just biomed and just too many to list! I still give him Tyrosine, magnesium,calcium, gaba, taurine, selinium, mb12,zinc,molybdenum and biotin. However, now if I forget to give him the biomed he doesnt turn into a screaming bouncing laughing boy. His aggressive behaviors, also somewhat controlled with biomed are gone now. So while it may cause discomfort for a few weeks, the benefits are amazing and I would recommend everyone do further research. All the biomedical supps help treat the symptoms, the Iodine treats the root cause of the symptoms. Cheryl > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > jo > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > Thanks, > > Martha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 How do you test for an iodine deficiency? Is it just standard bloodwork?Thanks,CamTo: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:01:58 +0000Subject: Re: iodine I keep seeing posts about Iodine and bad reactions so I wanted to reply even tho i usually just read. My son and I have been on Iodine replacement for 2 months. I personally believe the root cause of all of it (autism, adhd, depression, bipolar, auto-immune, everything!) is a malfunctioning thyroid (injured by vaccines) and Iodine deficiency, but i digress and didnt want to go into a long post about my theory, I belive Iodine is the key to the cure. The initial "bad" reaction can be likened to die off. Mine lasted about 2 weeks, was about as bad as a flu/cold. The improvments are nothing short of astounding. I have lost weight(25 lbs), depression, fungus, bacteria and most likely latent viruses. My mood and energy is remarkabley changed. My son's initial reaction was worse than mine (he's non verbal ASD and probably more latent viruses etc.) so i did lower the dosage and then pushed thru. It took about 2 weeks to level off. There has been no bad reaction since, even tho i increased him back to 3 drops per day. He is now at 4 drops per day. I am at 5. Lugols solution 2%. So I do believe that once you start the iodine the die off is what people are experiencing that experience a bad reaction. The more bacteria, yeast, fungus, virus, etc may determine how bad the reaction and a lower dosage may be warranted if the symptoms are too severe. It could also be the temporary Iodine increase in the thyroid causes hypothyroid symtoms, but that would level off too once the thyroid relearns how much it should "hold". But getting thru that inital discomfort knowing it wont come back can help. had many behaviors that have been controlled somewhat thru biomed (taurine, mb12, gaba, relora, etc) but never eliminated. If the biomed stopped the behaviors returned. Now, those behaviors are dissappearing completely with iodine replacement. His attention is much better. His verbal "chatter" is increasing.He has many more calm moments. I have smelled the same metallic smell in his BMs as when chelating. His acne is all but gone. He is losing body fat noticably now but I havent weighed him. The changes in him the last 2 months are nothing I ever saw with just biomed and just too many to list! I still give him Tyrosine, magnesium,calcium, gaba, taurine, selinium, mb12,zinc,molybdenum and biotin. However, now if I forget to give him the biomed he doesnt turn into a screaming bouncing laughing boy. His aggressive behaviors, also somewhat controlled with biomed are gone now. So while it may cause discomfort for a few weeks, the benefits are amazing and I would recommend everyone do further research. All the biomedical supps help treat the symptoms, the Iodine treats the root cause of the symptoms. Cheryl > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > jo > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > Thanks, > > Martha > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! Click here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 There are tests they can do for iodine deficiency. I believe they measure the output compared to input thru urine, but havent really investigated the tests. I think i read too that the tests can be falsely negative. I did the iodine patch test on us. Put a circle of iodine on your skin. If its gone within 24 hours you are iodine deficient. Mine was gone in an hour. s was gone in 30 minutes. Now, mine is gone in about 6 hours. His about 4. It's probably not scientific but that and research is what made me start replacement. Cheryl > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > jo > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Thanks Cheryl. I'll definitely try the patch test. CamTo: mb12 valtrex From: mossyforrest@...Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:54:26 +0000Subject: Re: iodine There are tests they can do for iodine deficiency. I believe they measure the output compared to input thru urine, but havent really investigated the tests. I think i read too that the tests can be falsely negative. I did the iodine patch test on us. Put a circle of iodine on your skin. If its gone within 24 hours you are iodine deficient. Mine was gone in an hour. s was gone in 30 minutes. Now, mine is gone in about 6 hours. His about 4. It's probably not scientific but that and research is what made me start replacement. Cheryl > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > jo > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Cheryl I want to test all of us too, which brand of iodine are you supplementing with? thanks > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Not Cheryl but we do the iodine patch testing too and we use CVS brand it is the iodine tincture in the first aid aisle. Make sure it is not clear, you want the color so you can see what's happening. I believe any of the drugstore brands are fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Lugols Solution 2%. The best price: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/LGS001/ItemDetail?n=4294967187 Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Just to be clear, I think (could be wrong) the tincture is not to be ingested. Its fine to use on skin. Not sure if the ratio/solution is the same. The Lugols is ingestable. Transdermal uptake is 3 times less than ingestion. So if you want your dosage to be 5 drops you would need to put 15 drops on your skin to equal what you drink. Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I just wanted to add to the iodine skin test: Our DAN pediatrician also sees my NT teenage dd and she just had inconsistent findings on her thyroid tests. She is already supplementing selenium (one of the building blocks for thyroid), so he said we should try the patch test to see if she might benefit from iodine supplementation. He told her to paint a 1 in. by 1 in. square on the inside of her forearm using a 2% iodine tincture that you can get at Walgreens. If it disappears completely within 8 hrs, you are deficient. If it is still there in 24 hrs, you are not deficient. If it disappears somewhere in between 8 and 24, you may be deficient. Hers disappeared in 4 hrs. I thought I would try the test out with her and mine also disappeared within 4 hrs. It made me feel bad though! I had a metallic/salty sort of taste in my mouth along with increased salivation. I was also nauseated and had a headache. I had a burning sensation in the nose, like when water has got up there or when you are getting a cold. Funny enough, these are some of the symptoms of iodine toxicity. Not sure why that is... We haven't had her follow-up appt. yet to know what he wants to do about supplementation. > > > Thanks Cheryl. I'll definitely try the patch test. > Cam > > To: mb12 valtrex > From: mossyforrest@... > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:54:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: iodine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are tests they can do for iodine deficiency. I believe they measure the output compared to input thru urine, but havent really investigated the tests. I think i read too that the tests can be falsely negative. > > > > I did the iodine patch test on us. Put a circle of iodine on your skin. If its gone within 24 hours you are iodine deficient. Mine was gone in an hour. s was gone in 30 minutes. Now, mine is gone in about 6 hours. His about 4. It's probably not scientific but that and research is what made me start replacement. > > > > Cheryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Cheryl are you iodine loading as part of the vitamin K protocol? nicole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 No, just the Cheryl protocol ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 this is fascinating! i know i'm not Cheryl, but my son's dr didn't say anything about vit K, just iodine. martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Cheryl, did you have any positives from supplementing?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Yes. has been on supps for several years. He was getting unmanageable with behaviors and agression and I had to find a solution. So much so the school was thinking he would need 2 aides! Or worse. So the supps did help his symptoms. He had severe self injurious behaviors before supps too. It took a while for me to figure out which ones and what but he had become very compliant, still is. He enjoyed school more, he was learning alot faster. He screamed less. Able to work independantly after as well. So they were helping to alleviate some of the symptoms and heal very slowly perhaps, but i think they just werent treating the root cause. He was always having yeast behaviors and following the protocol always helped. Also, some pretty weird immune problems, so the supps helps those too. But stop the supps and everything would flare back. So i think it is important to have the supps while reloading iodine. The body is still in the same condition and becoming iodine sufficient takes time and they with the iodine help the thyroid heal. Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 That's good to know. What about for supplementing for yourself? Also, what helped with attention. My son still on Valtrex, LDN and his attention is terrible, he doesn't look up to see what is going on. Seems worse lately, been on Nizoral awhile now. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I take mag, calcium, taurine, potassium, Selenium,biotin, tyrosine, molybdenum,and MB12. In the past i have used GSE,OofO, OLE for yeast,colds,ailments. Krill oil. Tried alot more. I think it is more of the combo of supps that helps with the attention and behaviors. Attention is just another behavior. And motivation. I know with motivation is the biggest key to attention. If he isnt motivated he isnt going to attend.With biomed he is alot more tolerate at finding motivation tho. What they are defficient in is controlling both. If the thyroid malfunction is creating low mag, taurine, high viral and they are not excreting metals and their guts are messed up as a result then their neurotransmitters and other brain processes are not working right. Asking them to attend (especially if they find it boring, frustrating, useless, etc) when all this is haywire is a bit like torture! SO finding if they need more mag, or enzymes to break down proteins or antivirals or whatever the thyroid/low iodine is causing helps to determine what the thyroid needs help with all cures the attention. It's all a cycle. So seeing how the person symptoms are presenting would determine what supps would help with attention by getting to the root cause of the problem. Typically mag, taurine, gaba(only for a few), CLO, help with attention, even digestive enzymes for some, so you can speculate these are needed by the thyroid to help with processing all the various hormones,enzymes, etc, so that everything works right. And relora and theanine help some. And, Iodine. Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I just bought the iodine, I'm anxious to test us all. I know is already low thryroid , but suspect he may need it. He is gettting only zinc, selenium, chromium. Do you use a good mineral supplement for ? We did a round of DMSA over the weeekend. Maybe he needs taurine, I did take it out, I'll add it back to see. too is very motivated if it is something he likes. Of course, we are still battling yeast with the valrex and Ldn. I may need a new antifungal. Thanks for the info and let me know about the minerals, he must be low..I really appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Get your vacation photos on your phone! > > > > > > > > > http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx? & OCID=0809TL-HM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 So, if I'm reading your post correctly, just doing that patch test with iodine - that small amount, topically - made you feel bad? I want to try iodine with my son, but this tells me I probably need to go very slowly with him.  I just wanted to add to the iodine skin test:Our DAN pediatrician also sees my NT teenage dd and she just had inconsistent findings on her thyroid tests. She is already supplementing selenium (one of the building blocks for thyroid), so he said we should try the patch test to see if she might benefit from iodine supplementation. He told her to paint a 1 in. by 1 in. square on the inside of her forearm using a 2% iodine tincture that you can get at Walgreens. If it disappears completely within 8 hrs, you are deficient. If it is still there in 24 hrs, you are not deficient. If it disappears somewhere in between 8 and 24, you may be deficient. Hers disappeared in 4 hrs. I thought I would try the test out with her and mine also disappeared within 4 hrs. It made me feel bad though! I had a metallic/salty sort of taste in my mouth along with increased salivation. I was also nauseated and had a headache. I had a burning sensation in the nose, like when water has got up there or when you are getting a cold. Funny enough, these are some of the symptoms of iodine toxicity. Not sure why that is... We haven't had her follow-up appt. yet to know what he wants to do about supplementation. >> > Thanks Cheryl. I'll definitely try the patch test. > Cam> > To: mb12 valtrex > From: mossyforrest@... > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:54:26 +0000> Subject: Re: iodine> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are tests they can do for iodine deficiency. I believe they measure the output compared to input thru urine, but havent really investigated the tests. I think i read too that the tests can be falsely negative. > > > > I did the iodine patch test on us. Put a circle of iodine on your skin. If its gone within 24 hours you are iodine deficient. Mine was gone in an hour. s was gone in 30 minutes. Now, mine is gone in about 6 hours. His about 4. It's probably not scientific but that and research is what made me start replacement. > > > > Cheryl> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I give my son Chelate Mate which has iodine. He gets 1/2 tablespoon of Chelate Mate per day, which contains 50 mcg of iodine. Is this enough?  http://www.nbnus.net/shopexd.asp?id=77   So, if I'm reading your post correctly, just doing that patch test with iodine - that small amount, topically - made you feel bad? I want to try iodine with my son, but this tells me I probably need to go very slowly with him.  I just wanted to add to the iodine skin test:Our DAN pediatrician also sees my NT teenage dd and she just had inconsistent findings on her thyroid tests. She is already supplementing selenium (one of the building blocks for thyroid), so he said we should try the patch test to see if she might benefit from iodine supplementation. He told her to paint a 1 in. by 1 in. square on the inside of her forearm using a 2% iodine tincture that you can get at Walgreens. If it disappears completely within 8 hrs, you are deficient. If it is still there in 24 hrs, you are not deficient. If it disappears somewhere in between 8 and 24, you may be deficient. Hers disappeared in 4 hrs. I thought I would try the test out with her and mine also disappeared within 4 hrs. It made me feel bad though! I had a metallic/salty sort of taste in my mouth along with increased salivation. I was also nauseated and had a headache. I had a burning sensation in the nose, like when water has got up there or when you are getting a cold. Funny enough, these are some of the symptoms of iodine toxicity. Not sure why that is... We haven't had her follow-up appt. yet to know what he wants to do about supplementation. >> > Thanks Cheryl. I'll definitely try the patch test. > Cam> > To: mb12 valtrex > From: mossyforrest@... > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 23:54:26 +0000> Subject: Re: iodine> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are tests they can do for iodine deficiency. I believe they measure the output compared to input thru urine, but havent really investigated the tests. I think i read too that the tests can be falsely negative. > > > > I did the iodine patch test on us. Put a circle of iodine on your skin. If its gone within 24 hours you are iodine deficient. Mine was gone in an hour. s was gone in 30 minutes. Now, mine is gone in about 6 hours. His about 4. It's probably not scientific but that and research is what made me start replacement. > > > > Cheryl> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Yes, that's correct. Within probably about 15 minutes of putting it on my skin, I had the strange taste in my mouth and was salivating. The other symptoms set in within an hour. They slowly went away throughout the day, but I didn't feel normal again until the next day. > > > > > > > I just wanted to add to the iodine skin test: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Cheryl, Thanks so much for your post. You answered a mystery for me. I had read a lot about how we are not getting the right kind of iodine in our foods but when I supplemented with the right kind', all three of us got depressed and didnt' feel good. When I posted a question on this to the slow-dose-chelation group, no one seemed to know why. Now I know to keep pushing on, though I will do it slowly. sally To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:01:58 PMSubject: Re: iodine I keep seeing posts about Iodine and bad reactions so I wanted to reply even tho i usually just read. My son and I have been on Iodine replacement for 2 months. I personally believe the root cause of all of it (autism, adhd, depression, bipolar, auto-immune, everything!) is a malfunctioning thyroid (injured by vaccines) and Iodine deficiency, but i digress and didnt want to go into a long post about my theory, I belive Iodine is the key to the cure. The initial "bad" reaction can be likened to die off. Mine lasted about 2 weeks, was about as bad as a flu/cold. The improvments are nothing short of astounding. I have lost weight(25 lbs), depression, fungus, bacteria and most likely latent viruses. My mood and energy is remarkabley changed. My son's initial reaction was worse than mine (he's non verbal ASD and probably more latent viruses etc.) so i did lower the dosage and then pushed thru. It took about 2 weeks to level off. There has been no bad reaction since, even tho i increased him back to 3 drops per day. He is now at 4 drops per day. I am at 5. Lugols solution 2%.So I do believe that once you start the iodine the die off is what people are experiencing that experience a bad reaction. The more bacteria, yeast, fungus, virus, etc may determine how bad the reaction and a lower dosage may be warranted if the symptoms are too severe. It could also be the temporary Iodine increase in the thyroid causes hypothyroid symtoms, but that would level off too once the thyroid relearns how much it should "hold". But getting thru that inital discomfort knowing it wont come back can help. had many behaviors that have been controlled somewhat thru biomed (taurine, mb12, gaba, relora, etc) but never eliminated. If the biomed stopped the behaviors returned. Now, those behaviors are dissappearing completely with iodine replacement. His attention is much better. His verbal "chatter" is increasing.He has many more calm moments. I have smelled the same metallic smell in his BMs as when chelating. His acne is all but gone. He is losing body fat noticably now but I havent weighed him. The changes in him the last 2 months are nothing I ever saw with just biomed and just too many to list! I still give him Tyrosine, magnesium,calcium, gaba, taurine, selinium, mb12,zinc,molybdenu m and biotin. However, now if I forget to give him the biomed he doesnt turn into a screaming bouncing laughing boy. His aggressive behaviors, also somewhat controlled with biomed are gone now. So while it may cause discomfort for a few weeks, the benefits are amazing and I would recommend everyone do further research. All the biomedical supps help treat the symptoms, the Iodine treats the root cause of the symptoms. Cheryl >> Every dr my son has been to has said the same thing about iodine and I think it is probably true. My son could not tolerate it, so we never used it. I use it and love it.> > jo> > My son's new dr, who is D.O. but uses homeopathic, etc in his practice mentioned high levels of iodine having helped some kids with their attention issues. Has anyone ever done this? I don't remember the exact amount, but it was well above the toxic level. > > > > Thanks, > > Martha> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 We use Bladderwrack (iodine) which helps naturally chelate aluminum which is why it helps get rid of the root of the problem!HTH,KShare in the joy of our recovery at... www.thefarrellfoundation.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 What brand are you using and at what dosage? Subject: re: iodineTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 1:51 AM We use Bladderwrack (iodine) which helps naturally chelate aluminum which is why it helps get rid of the root of the problem! HTH, KShare in the joy of our recovery at...www.thefarrellfound ation.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Cheryl, I find your postings about iodine deficiency very interesting, because me and my son are very deficient also (our test patches disappear only within 2-3 hours) and my NAET doctor thinks also that this is big part of the problem. So, you do the patch test with Lugols solution 2%, but which brand have you found to be best for the the iodine replacement for your son? You refer that you give him 5 drops of something every day, is this again from Lugols 2%? Thanks, Krassi > > I keep seeing posts about Iodine and bad reactions so I wanted to reply even tho i usually just read. My son and I have been on Iodine replacement for 2 months. I personally believe the root cause of all of it (autism, adhd, depression, bipolar, auto-immune, everything!) is a malfunctioning thyroid (injured by vaccines) and Iodine deficiency, but i digress and didnt want to go into a long post about my theory, I belive Iodine is the key to the cure. > > The initial " bad " reaction can be likened to die off. Mine lasted about 2 weeks, was about as bad as a flu/cold. The improvments are nothing short of astounding. I have lost weight(25 lbs), depression, fungus, bacteria and most likely latent viruses. My mood and energy is remarkabley changed. > > My son's initial reaction was worse than mine (he's non verbal ASD and probably more latent viruses etc.) so i did lower the dosage and then pushed thru. It took about 2 weeks to level off. There has been no bad reaction since, even tho i increased him back to 3 drops per day. He is now at 4 drops per day. I am at 5. Lugols solution 2%. > > So I do believe that once you start the iodine the die off is what people are experiencing that experience a bad reaction. The more bacteria, yeast, fungus, virus, etc may determine how bad the reaction and a lower dosage may be warranted if the symptoms are too severe. It could also be the temporary Iodine increase in the thyroid causes hypothyroid symtoms, but that would level off too once the thyroid relearns how much it should " hold " . But getting thru that inital discomfort knowing it wont come back can help. > > had many behaviors that have been controlled somewhat thru biomed (taurine, mb12, gaba, relora, etc) but never eliminated. If the biomed stopped the behaviors returned. Now, those behaviors are dissappearing completely with iodine replacement. His attention is much better. His verbal " chatter " is increasing.He has many more calm moments. I have smelled the same metallic smell in his BMs as when chelating. His acne is all but gone. He is losing body fat noticably now but I havent weighed him. The changes in him the last 2 months are nothing I ever saw with just biomed and just too many to list! I still give him Tyrosine, magnesium,calcium, gaba, taurine, selinium, mb12,zinc,molybdenum and biotin. However, now if I forget to give him the biomed he doesnt turn into a screaming bouncing laughing boy. His aggressive behaviors, also somewhat controlled with biomed are gone now. > > So while it may cause discomfort for a few weeks, the benefits are amazing and I would recommend everyone do further research. All the biomedical supps help treat the symptoms, the Iodine treats the root cause of the symptoms. > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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