Re: Something to think about

October 27, 2006

exactly Harry and doctor Bernstein has 25 years worth of patient research to

prove it.

Regards,

RE: Something to think about

>

>> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement

>> from my normally a lot confused...

>>

>> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

>> heavy on cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and

>> cholesterol, or at least protein, that effects creatinine?

>> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

>> cholesterol when following such a plan. I don't mean his

>> whole explanation, but just a quickie.

>>

>> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>>

>> SS

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October 27, 2006

Hi ,

None of bernsteins patients have elevated cholesterol. In fact all of them

are under the normal range of what is considered normal for cholesterol. It

is sugar swings along with quick acting carbohydrates that cause elevated

cholesterol.

Bernstein states, and backs his statement via his research, that protein

does not hurt the kidney, it is the sugar swings that do it. His patient

research prooves this time and time again.

My body is proof of this. I am sure you read my post on this. My creatinine

went from 2.0 to 1.6 eating tons of fat and tons of meat and nothing but

slow acting carbos from vegetables.

How is that possible?

Simple, my body needs the fat and quickly metobolizes it when I eat it.

Without the presence of quick acting carbos there is no need to store the

fat and elevate my ldl. I.E it is needed. If I ate the quick acting carbs,

and the fat, yes, my lipids would skyrocket.

Bernstein references research in his type 1 audio cds that ran an experiment

on this exact thing and prooves it.

Regards,

RE: Something to think about

> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement

> from my normally a lot confused...

>

> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

> heavy on cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and

> cholesterol, or at least protein, that effects creatinine?

> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

> cholesterol when following such a plan. I don't mean his

> whole explanation, but just a quickie.

>

> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>

> SS

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October 27, 2006

Thanks, Ruth. When I read that I had to do a double take.

I can confuse facts at times, but I think Harry is the one

who misstated this one.

Harry, can you show us somewhere to read up on these claims.

I seriously doubt their credibility, but am always willing

to explore new ideas.

Thanks!

SS

Re: Something to think about

Your liver makes cholesterol. It is an essential body

substance. Eating

fat and protein does not increase your cholesterol level.

Eating

carbohydrates does increase your cholesterol. The medical

doctors got it

all wrong when they swore that eating fats and proteins

increase your

cholesterol levels. They were just plain wrong.

RE: Something to think about

> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an

improvement from my

> normally a lot confused...

>

> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

heavy on

> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at

least

> protein, that effects creatinine?

> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

cholesterol when

> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole

explanation, but just a

> quickie.

>

> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>

> SS

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October 27, 2006

Maybe those high cholesterol levels can be explained by a virus. I thought

when a doctor did not know the answer for sure, he would just say it was a

virus. <smile>

For sure all I know from the research I have done is triglycerides are

converted into other fats and cholesterol. If you want high triglycerides,

you must eat lots of carbs. Doctors drew the wrong conclusion:

triglycerides are a form of fat, so not eating fats will reduce

triglycerides. This direct line of thinking has often missed the real

cause. For instance blossom end rot in tomatoes is caused by a virus?,

bacteria?, a fungus? For sure these microbes were always present. Research

revealed the real culprit, and it was not a microbe like a virus, bacteria

or a fungus. It took trial and error, charting and observation, and lots of

patience to discover the real culprit. The answer should have been obvious,

since the tomato blossoms were actually rotten. No it was not the little

plant bugs that made it so. It turned out to be something entirely found by

accident. Tomato blossom end rot is the result of a deficiency of a vital

element, calcium. If you don't have adequate calcium, you have blossom end

rot. If you have too much calcium, you have a burned tomato plant, which

will probably die. With the right amount of calcium you not only do not

have blossom end rot, but you also get beautiful tomatoes. Isn't it strange

how completely wrong conclusions can be made by simple observations and

reckoning. Consuming fats do not cause fat arteries. Carbs are converted

to glucose, and excess glucose is converted into triglycerides and fat.

Always remember insulin is a storage hormone. It causes the storage of

excess glucose, which is not used by the body, to be stored in the form of

fat. Carbohydrates are not essential for life, but fat and protein are.

RE: Something to think about

>

> > , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement from my

> > normally a lot confused...

> >

> > In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very heavy on

> > cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at least

> > protein, that effects creatinine?

> > Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of cholesterol when

> > following such a plan. I don't mean his whole explanation, but just a

> > quickie.

> >

> > Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

> >

> > SS

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October 27, 2006

Hi ,

I hardly think so. I am not as impressed with Dr. Bernstein's diet as you

are. The carbs I eat are slow acting because they are also high fiber. E.g.

the bread I eat is made with high protein flour and has only 9 grams of carb

and the other 9 is fiber which slows the carbs down. I eat very lean meat,

drink skim milk and eat fruit and NO snacks which is a more balanced

approach than Dr. Bernstein's diet. Quite frankly his diet scares me! As

somebody pointed out to you before, early man ate things like grain,

vegetables, fruit and NO meat. We in early times had no teeth for it.

These developed later. I believe in Mendosa's approach which is using the

glycemic index which uses the things I eat and is still low carb. As for

your earlier posting to Connie there are many reasons people will not

listen. First and foremost is that it is not going to happen to me. The

second is the attitude of society to doctors, especially ones of a older

generation. Society has an attitude that doctors are God and that they are

always right and they are not always right. Third is that the results from

diabetes are not seen right away. They are not seen till later when it is

too late. Fourth is that people must be willing to accept change. That is

what your asking and that is what stresses people the most. Change.

Finally, you can not say for sure that a change to Dr Bernstin's diet would

change everything. For example, my stroke was caused by dehydration and a

combination of my rejection drugs. Many people are dehydrated and actually

that is what triggers many strokes according to my stroke specialist. I am

sure there is some merit in Dr. Bernstein's stuff, but I am not a full

fledged believer like you are, nor will I ever be. I know you care, but

people need to be self- determining about their future and health, but you

can at least know you tried and did not stand on the sidelines and do

nothing.

Ruth

Re: Something to think about

Hi Ruth,

A thought...

you should get a copy of the research that doctor Bernstein mentions in his

audio cds.

Diet 100% has to do with increased ldl and eating fat doesn't raze it.

Eating quick acting carbohydrates *along with fat* razes it. In the

experiment people who did not eat quick acting carbohydrates and just

fat/meat/slow acting carbos lipids were fine.

How could that be? Simple, their body metobolized the fat since it needed it

so it did not raze their ldl.

The people who had quick acting carb diets and eating the fat... they did

not need the carbs, nor the fat, so the body stored it and as a result the

ldl skyrocketed. I.E the fat was not metobolized.

Experiment on your own body and you'll see it is true. Don't eat quick

acting carbs, eat slow acting carbs and fat/meat. In 30 to 45 days go get

your lipids done and they will be normal. On the flip side... eat quick

acting carbs, and the fat, go get your lipids done and they will be

elevated.

Regards,

RE: Something to think about

> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement from my

> normally a lot confused...

>

> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very heavy on

> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at least

> protein, that effects creatinine?

> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of cholesterol when

> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole explanation, but just a

> quickie.

>

> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>

> SS

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October 27, 2006

I am here to tell both and Ruth that doctors are almost completely

ignorant when it comes to knowing something about nutrition. I am talking

about most practicing physicians, who have practically none to no education

regarding nutrition and the way the body physiology works. Read several

textbooks on nutrition or read at least one college textbook on the topic of

nutrition and discover for yourself. Read Dr. Bernstein's book Diabetes

Solution or go to a couple of web sites where you can find this same

information. Learn to use a search engine like google and learn to use

Boolean expressions to search for things. Most of this information is out

there waiting to be found and read, but if you listen to the mainstream

folks like the AMA the American Medical Association and the ADA the American

Diabetes Association, you will remain ignorant.

I gave someone here a lot of web page addresses where they can verify my

statements, and maybe they will share them with us once again. Happy

hunting!

RE: Something to think about

>

>> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an

> improvement from my

>> normally a lot confused...

>>

>> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

> heavy on

>> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at

> least

>> protein, that effects creatinine?

>> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

> cholesterol when

>> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole

> explanation, but just a

>> quickie.

>>

>> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>>

>> SS

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October 27, 2006

Few people know that skim milk actually contains more carbs than an

equivalent glass of whole milk. The whole milk is actually better for you

since it contains fat. To be sure always read the labels on your food and

drink items. Did you know that skim milk sours faster than whole milk?

Actually, I do not advocate the drinking of milk by any diabetic, since a

glass of milk contains so many carbs. While milk has a lot of carbs, it

does contain fewer carbs than a glass of fruit juice. I just thought you

might like to know.

October 27, 2006

I have a few responses to this:

a) Most who advocate Dr. Berenstein's diet, on this list and other diabetes

forums, have some sort of vandetta against the ADA and doctors in general.

As someone who is not American, I find this slightly puzzling because for

one, most of the world is not American and so how can the ADA account for

all diabetics and evil in the world, and second of all most doctors I have

met are in the field to try to help people, *not* to make a profit as some

portray (and, doctors in some countries such as Canada and the UK do not

make profits in the same way as doctors in the States, so again, you cannot

generalize to the entire world).

I remind again that anyone, anywhere can put up a website. I use internet

search results as a starting point to research, but not a be-all-and-end-all

of what is fact.

c) I find it very hard to believe that millions of doctors have been wrong

for dozens of years, and that one single doctor suddenly comes up with the

solution for everything. This diet may work for people and that is great if

you can stick to it, but it does not have to be the *only* possible solution

out there.

These are just some gut reactions on my part.

Jen

RE: Something to think about

>>

>>> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an

>> improvement from my

>>> normally a lot confused...

>>>

>>> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

>> heavy on

>>> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at

>> least

>>> protein, that effects creatinine?

>>> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

>> cholesterol when

>>> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole

>> explanation, but just a

>>> quickie.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>>>

>>> SS

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October 27, 2006

Hi Jen,

* quote *

c) I find it very hard to believe that millions of doctors have been wrong

for dozens of years, and that one single doctor suddenly comes up with the

solution for everything. This diet may work for people and that is great if

you can stick to it, but it does not have to be the *only* possible solution

out there.

* end quote *

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but...

1. If you are referring to doctor bernstein he is more than just a doctor,

it is important to point out that he is a type 1 diabetic and also a doctor.

He also has lived as a type 1 diabetic for 60 years with no complications.

People cannot just dismiss that.

2. This is not a diet, it is a scientificly *proven* method to *normalize*

blood sugars. People cannot just dismiss that.

3. Bernstein has 25 years worth of patient research to back all of his

findings. People cannot just dismiss that.

4. yes, Bernstein is the only doctor to scientifically come up with a

routine to *normalize sugars*. All other endrocrinologists have no method of

normalizing sugars that are both scientifically and medically proven,

Bernsteins research is both backed scientifically and medically. People

cannot just dismiss this *fact*.

5. Bernstein is not some halfway educated website with an agenda. He is

solid, has the research, documented, and is posted often in many many

diabetic professional medical publications so the info is here and readily

available both in his books, audio cds, and medical publications and

interviews.

Regards,

RE: Something to think about

>>>

>>>> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an

>>> improvement from my

>>>> normally a lot confused...

>>>>

>>>> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

>>> heavy on

>>>> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at

>>> least

>>>> protein, that effects creatinine?

>>>> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

>>> cholesterol when

>>>> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole

>>> explanation, but just a

>>>> quickie.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>>>>

>>>> SS

>>>>

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October 27, 2006

your point 4 Ruth makes sense. I never pondered that. People hate change and

secondly it is drastic change. hmmmm. makes a little more sense.

I do realize that you will not be following doctor Bernstein's approach, and

that is fine, but I am here to educate people on it and clear up some of the

misconceptions that are so commonly grabbed with no scientific or medical

research. The information I present is backed by doctor Bernstein's medical and

scientific research. I don't have to say more than that really to indicate that

what I am preaching is valid... he has 25 years worth of research for any person

to read and review even if they don't want to follow it.

Regards,

RE: Something to think about

> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement from my

> normally a lot confused...

>

> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very heavy on

> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at least

> protein, that effects creatinine?

> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of cholesterol when

> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole explanation, but just a

> quickie.

>

> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>

> SS

>

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October 27, 2006

lol lol lol and lets not forget the sonomie effect *roll eyes*. sheesh...

btw sorry for the spelling not sure how to spell sonomie effect...

Regards,

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>

> > , I am a little confused. Well, that's an improvement from my

> > normally a lot confused...

> >

> > In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very heavy on

> > cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at least

> > protein, that effects creatinine?

> > Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of cholesterol when

> > following such a plan. I don't mean his whole explanation, but just a

> > quickie.

> >

> > Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

> >

> > SS

> >

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October 27, 2006

my wife put a roast in the crock pot this morning on low and let it simmer all

day. She tossed in a can of green beans instead of potatoes, some of her canned

tomatoes, and a packet of french onion soup mix for flavoring. It was a roast

soup that was outstanding! Had it for dinner and a tossed salad.

For breakfast I eat the same thing, I am boring like that, 3 eggs, 2 pieces of

sausage, and a cheese stick. I'll eat that every day of my life for breakfast

*laugh*.

For lunch I went to wendy's drive through and got a tossed side salad and two

bacon cheeseburgers. I ate the meat on the burgers and pitched the bread. I do

not eat *any* quick acting carbs. None at all. So I had the salad and two

burgers/just the meat.

sometimes for dinner I go to Mcs and get the grilled chicken salad which

is a huge chicken breast, seasoned/grilled, cut up over top of salad with cheese

and veggies on it. Put on some Italian dressing and yum!

another... chicken breast stuffed with spinach and parmesan cheese! side of

broccoli beans to go with it. No breading on the chicken at all, ever, I do not

eat *any* quick acting carbs.

one more... roasted turkey in the oven with a 1/2 cup side of 100% natural

pumpkin seasoned with cinamon and splenda.

All my meals require 4 units of humalog - breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I do not eat in between meals/snack... ever!

I could go on but hopefully this is enough to get you the idea/some ideas...

Regards,

Re: Something to think about

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > I'm a bit confused by how the low carb diet and not going low works.

> I,

> > > for example, take 1 unit of Humalog for approximately 12-15 grams of

> > > carbohydrates. If I were to only eat 6 grams of carbohydrates at a

> > meal, I

> > > would somehow have to give only half a unit of Humalog. If I ate 12

> > grams

> > > that would be about 1 unit.

> > >

> > > How to you balance basal insulin like Lantus when you are on so

> little

> > > Humalog? For me that would be about 2-3 units of Humalog per day! The

> > > balance of insulin is supposed to be about 50% as long acting and 50%

> > as

> > > rapid acting to cover meals. How much Lantus do you take? I am

> assuming

> > > that a type 1 cannot take only 6 units of insulin and not get into

> > > trouble. Also, if you eat slow-acting carbs with lots of protein and

> > fat

> > > this usually slows carbs down even more, so how do you avoid going

> low

> > > immediately after a meal when Humalog peaks, if the food might take

> > longer

> > > to reach your bloodstream?

> > >

> > > Also how does exercise work? Right now I have to eat fast acting

> carbs

> > > before or during exercise, and reduce my rapid and long acting

> insulin,

> > or

> > > else I go low. If you are taking so little insulin and eating so

> little

> > > carbs, how do you exercise (such as swimming) without going low?

> > >

> > > Jen

> > >

October 27, 2006

Hi . One negative thing with your examples are the number of

processed, i.e. can, foods you eat. IF I were to embark on a vegetable and

meat diet, I would surely want to eat as many fresh and freshly prepared

foods as possible. And that is part of what seems so daunting. Ironically,

as I mentioned in a previous message, there is a kind of normal feel about

this diet that does attract me in that it approaches how we were originally

intended to eat. I don't know if I'm ready to jump in completely however,

and may experiment with reducing (further) my intake of carbohydrates.

Perhaps 60-90 per day, because I do understand how the body/insulin will

react more favorably if there are less carbohydrates to deal with. Thanks

again for the thought provoking information.

Dave

Life is but a blink of the eye--eternity is coming...

Re: Something to think about

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > I'm a bit confused by how the low carb diet and not going low works.

> I,

> > > for example, take 1 unit of Humalog for approximately 12-15 grams of

> > > carbohydrates. If I were to only eat 6 grams of carbohydrates at a

> > meal, I

> > > would somehow have to give only half a unit of Humalog. If I ate 12

> > grams

> > > that would be about 1 unit.

> > >

> > > How to you balance basal insulin like Lantus when you are on so

> little

> > > Humalog? For me that would be about 2-3 units of Humalog per day! The

> > > balance of insulin is supposed to be about 50% as long acting and 50%

> > as

> > > rapid acting to cover meals. How much Lantus do you take? I am

> assuming

> > > that a type 1 cannot take only 6 units of insulin and not get into

> > > trouble. Also, if you eat slow-acting carbs with lots of protein and

> > fat

> > > this usually slows carbs down even more, so how do you avoid going

> low

> > > immediately after a meal when Humalog peaks, if the food might take

> > longer

> > > to reach your bloodstream?

> > >

> > > Also how does exercise work? Right now I have to eat fast acting

> carbs

> > > before or during exercise, and reduce my rapid and long acting

> insulin,

> > or

> > > else I go low. If you are taking so little insulin and eating so

> little

> > > carbs, how do you exercise (such as swimming) without going low?

> > >

> > > Jen

> > >

October 27, 2006

Would you believe at one time it was common medical practice do autopsy a

dead body, then turn around and deliver a baby. At one time it was also

common medical practice practically done by all doctors to do surgery

without washing their hands. Well, it was, but one doctor showed how

washing your hands and sterilizing the area could prevent all those deaths

and complications of surgery leading to death. He was ridiculed by his

fellow physicians and called a quack and a nut. You might have heard of

this doctor. His name was Louis Pasteur. Pioneers are seldom praised until

years later, when their findings and recommendations have been found to be

replicated time and time again, until at last it has become common medical

practice. It takes a long time for knowledge to be accepted as the truth by

most of those practicing medicine. I don't remember who said it either

Aristotle or Socrates but one of them said the greatest evil is ignorance,

and the greatest good is knowledge. I like to ponder these things.

Thinking back to the time of Washington, it was believed that

bleeding the patient by a surgeon was the way to cure an illness.

Washington was bled many times to cure his illness, but all it did was wind

up killing him. It is amazing how far medical practice has advanced in the

past two hundred years. Maybe going back to the old ways can work again

today. Is any one here willing to under go bleeding to get the excess sugar

out of their blood stream? <grin> I thought not. Then why not? At one

time it was common medical practice to bleed the patient to cure his ills.

Is diabetes an illness? Do you think bleeding might work?

RE: Something to think about

>>>

>>>> , I am a little confused. Well, that's an

>>> improvement from my

>>>> normally a lot confused...

>>>>

>>>> In looking at your diet plan, I would think it to be very

>>> heavy on

>>>> cholesterol. And, isn't it protein and cholesterol, or at

>>> least

>>>> protein, that effects creatinine?

>>>> Also, what does the doctor say about the risks of

>>> cholesterol when

>>>> following such a plan. I don't mean his whole

>>> explanation, but just a

>>>> quickie.

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the education. It is interesting to ponder.

>>>>

>>>> SS

>>>>

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October 27, 2006

Hi All,

Well, perhaps this whole dialogue says something about the modern U.S.

medical profession and system.

Please keep in mind that I am speaking specifically of the medical

profession as practiced in the United States because it is a whole lot

easier not to state " U.S. " after each reference to the medical folks.

Some years ago the physicians caved in to the insurance cartel and began to

allow the insurance companies to dictate what medicine the physicians could

prescribe for their patients. Folks, this is absolutely upside down.

Many physicians find the time to allow the purveyors of drugs to visit with

them, leave samples, read brochures and such but do not find the time to

attend or review medical seminars or medical reviews. Of course, there are

some devoted physicians who honestly try to do all they can in order to

serve their patients but I fear this is the exception rather than the rule.

I would venture to say that the majority of physicians in private practice

are not cognizant of the latest information on the control of Diabetes and I

can assure you that most hospitals blamed sure are not aware of the dietary

needs of their Diabetic patients.

This last observation is based on personal knowledge gained from witnessing

the care of a significant number of hospitalized Diabetics.

A number of physicians which my wife has gone to in the past couple of years

openly admit that they are not " in tune " with the proper diet a Diabetic

patient needs and refer the patient on to their dietician which only amounts

to more medical bills.

Further, a significant number of today's physicians still believe that an

A1C of 6 or more is " good enough " .

Sadly this is not just a problem faced by Diabetics. My Daughter had PKU, a

metabolic defect which causes the body not to be able to metabolize one or

more of the acids in protein.

When my daughter was hospitalized for some other problems the meals they

presented her were loaded with protein and, regardless of how often we

pointed this out, nothing changed. When we discussed this matter with the

physician in charge his reaction was " Oh, yes, we need to look into this. "

The end effect of this was the death of my daughter.

Now folks, please mark my words here.

One of these days fairly soon all the very Dickens is going to break loose

over the common practice of over medicating children and the elderly so they

will " not be a problem " .

My father-in-law was on around 14 different medications in order to

" stabilize " him while he was in an assisted living center. (more than one)

He is now on only 2 and he continues to remain stable.

One of my sons was on more than 15 medications for " stabilization " while he

was in a group home. When he came home for visits he was a living Zombie. He

is now on only 1 medication and doing fine.

The point in all this diatribe is just to show that many, many physicians

are doing business with an eye on profit and little or no concern for the

true health of their patients. Perhaps this sounds harsh or anti modern

medicine but, sorry, it is fact.

If whatever the new thinking in diet is if it does not include the use of

modern drugs it is not going to fly. Drug companies do not make money from

consumers who are not on a entire regiment of their products.

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