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HI Harry:

I agree with you here except for one thing. Those of us with thyroid disease

have to be careful what we do take when it comes to vitamins and

supplements. Folks with certain thyroid conditions should avoid iodine and

some vitamins contain small amounts of iodine. I am hypothyroid and have yet

to get a straight answer from anyone on what supplements are safe and what I

ought to avoid. LOL!

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

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my stance on vitamins

> Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the past.

> I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started

> treating

> myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years ago,

> and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

> The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had my

> last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex

> vitamin

> B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it a

> stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic

> to

> takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

> Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it

> does

> not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe B9

> in

> their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart attack

> potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

> injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I

> decided

> to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along with

> some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

> This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you

> know

> for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have to

> guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

> The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months of

> taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first time

> in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an

> A1C

> of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here also

> know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

> life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on me

> taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

> complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

> victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant patient

> should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

> quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

> wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery,

> or

> a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish to

> live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest of

> your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big

> drawback.

> You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

> This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it.

> For

> one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have

> recommended.

> For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own,

> and

> you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

> nothing is...

>

>

>

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Becky,

What exactly is the name of a vitamin that contains iodine? I searched on

it via the internet, but all I get is no named vitamin with iodine in it. I

read the warnings about iodine being in vitamins, but then I am led to a

site containing iodine amongst the minerals. It appears that they are

saying that vitamins and minerals are the same thing. They are not. So far

I have looked at the structure of Vitamin A, vigamin B's and vigtamin C and

have not discerned any iodine in their composition. So please tell me this

vitamin that contains iodine.

my stance on vitamins

>

>

>> Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the

>> past.

>> I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started

>> treating

>> myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years ago,

>> and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

>> The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had my

>> last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex

>> vitamin

>> B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it

>> a

>> stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic

>> to

>> takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

>> Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it

>> does

>> not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe B9

>> in

>> their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart attack

>> potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

>> injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I

>> decided

>> to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along with

>> some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

>> This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you

>> know

>> for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have to

>> guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

>> The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months

>> of

>> taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first

>> time

>> in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an

>> A1C

>> of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here also

>> know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

>> life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on

>> me

>> taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

>> complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

>> victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant patient

>> should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

>> quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

>> wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery,

>> or

>> a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish

>> to

>> live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest

>> of

>> your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big

>> drawback.

>> You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

>> This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it.

>> For

>> one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have

>> recommended.

>> For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own,

>> and

>> you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

>> nothing is...

>>

>>

>>

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Becky,

I have concluded there are no iodine in the composition of vitamin A,

vitamin B's and vitamin C. If you purchase the pure forms of these vitamins

you need not fear consuming any iodine. The fat soluable vitamins include

vitamin A, D, E and, K.

All the water soluable vitamins not needed by the body are excreted in the

urin, provided they are not needed. If the body needs a water soluable

vitamin, it will not get it unless it is supplied in your food or vitamin

supplement. This is the beauty of Vitamins like Vitamin C, and all of the

B's, since they are water soluable, that is all of them are water soluable.

This is why the pharmacist and doctors like to tell you that you are just

wasting your money, since it, use of supplements, just creates expensive

urine. They never tell you about the build up of homocysteine in your blood

stream as a result of some vitamin B deficiencies. They never tell you that

the build up of this homocysteine is a threat to your very existence and

homocysteine is a prime predictor of heart attacks. They always just say

eat a well rounded diet, but never tell you what a well rounded diet is

composed of. I have had three heart attacks. Just imagine the cost of

several days in the intensive care unit of any hospital for a single heart

attack. It runs into thousands of dollars. ly, I would rather piss

away a few pennies a day, rather than paying for an expensive hospital stay.

If you are to avoid all iodine consumption there are a few foods you need to

avoid like raw cabbage, iodized salt and never go swimming in the ocean,

since the skin will absorbe iodine from salt water.

Caution!: I did discover that those multi-vitamin and multi-mineral tablets

and capsules, that is pills that contain both vitamins and minerals, like

the One-A-Day vitamins, Centrum Silver, and some others do contain

mineerals, because they contain both vitamins and minerals. If you purchase

pure vitamin supplements, not containing minerals, then you need not worry

about consuming any iodine.

my stance on vitamins

>

>

>> Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the

>> past.

>> I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started

>> treating

>> myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years ago,

>> and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

>> The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had my

>> last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex

>> vitamin

>> B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it

>> a

>> stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic

>> to

>> takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

>> Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it

>> does

>> not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe B9

>> in

>> their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart attack

>> potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

>> injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I

>> decided

>> to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along with

>> some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

>> This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you

>> know

>> for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have to

>> guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

>> The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months

>> of

>> taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first

>> time

>> in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an

>> A1C

>> of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here also

>> know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

>> life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on

>> me

>> taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

>> complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

>> victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant patient

>> should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

>> quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

>> wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery,

>> or

>> a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish

>> to

>> live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest

>> of

>> your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big

>> drawback.

>> You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

>> This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it.

>> For

>> one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have

>> recommended.

>> For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own,

>> and

>> you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

>> nothing is...

>>

>>

>>

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Hi Harry:

I'll have to ask my aunt what she is taking and get back to you. The

vitamins that she takes do have a trace of iodine in them, a no no for folks

with thyroid disease.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

my stance on vitamins

>>

>>

>>> Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the

>>> past.

>>> I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started

>>> treating

>>> myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years

>>> ago,

>>> and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

>>> The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had

>>> my

>>> last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex

>>> vitamin

>>> B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it

>>> a

>>> stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic

>>> to

>>> takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

>>> Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it

>>> does

>>> not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe

>>> B9

>>> in

>>> their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart

>>> attack

>>> potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

>>> injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I

>>> decided

>>> to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along

>>> with

>>> some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

>>> This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you

>>> know

>>> for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have

>>> to

>>> guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

>>> The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months

>>> of

>>> taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first

>>> time

>>> in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an

>>> A1C

>>> of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here

>>> also

>>> know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

>>> life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on

>>> me

>>> taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

>>> complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

>>> victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant

>>> patient

>>> should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

>>> quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

>>> wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery,

>>> or

>>> a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish

>>> to

>>> live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest

>>> of

>>> your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big

>>> drawback.

>>> You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

>>> This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it.

>>> For

>>> one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have

>>> recommended.

>>> For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own,

>>> and

>>> you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

>>> nothing is...

>>>

>>>

>>>

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HI Harry:

I was talking about the vitamins that do contain minerals along with the

vitamins. I forbid the use of iodized salt in this house and don't eat

enough raw cabbage to worry about that.

I would prefer to take a vitamin with minerals in it as well, but will

certainly take your recommendation under advisement where pure vitamins are

concerned. I agree that you have a valid point, especially when it comes to

spending time and money in Intensive Care.

ly, I've come to the conclusion since my diagnosis back in December

that no two professionals are going to tell you the same thing and I happen

to think that this group knows more about Diabetes and what is al right and

not all right to eat and to do than the professionals that I've seen so far.

So why am I spending money every three months? Well, the Avandia is working

better and I am able to test my sugar regularly so I guess the money is

worth it. But when it comes to getting good, solid advice you all have my

nurse practitioner beat hands down.

Becky and Cassidy, Pilot Dog, Poodle

maddpoodle27@...

my stance on vitamins

>>

>>

>>> Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the

>>> past.

>>> I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started

>>> treating

>>> myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years

>>> ago,

>>> and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

>>> The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had

>>> my

>>> last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex

>>> vitamin

>>> B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it

>>> a

>>> stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic

>>> to

>>> takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

>>> Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it

>>> does

>>> not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe

>>> B9

>>> in

>>> their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart

>>> attack

>>> potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

>>> injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I

>>> decided

>>> to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along

>>> with

>>> some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

>>> This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you

>>> know

>>> for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have

>>> to

>>> guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

>>> The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months

>>> of

>>> taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first

>>> time

>>> in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an

>>> A1C

>>> of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here

>>> also

>>> know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

>>> life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on

>>> me

>>> taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

>>> complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

>>> victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant

>>> patient

>>> should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

>>> quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

>>> wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery,

>>> or

>>> a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish

>>> to

>>> live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest

>>> of

>>> your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big

>>> drawback.

>>> You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

>>> This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it.

>>> For

>>> one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have

>>> recommended.

>>> For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own,

>>> and

>>> you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

>>> nothing is...

>>>

>>>

>>>

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I agree with you on the supplements. I listened to a radio program yesterday

and learnt there with interest of an experiment conducted by someone in the

UK in which he took a bag of oranges and the most vitamin C he chould find

in the oranges for instance, was 116 in one orange. Further research showed

that due to the conditions under which the fruit may have been grown, there

were a number of the oranges which did not have vitamin C at all.

The object lesson to be gained from all of this is that you do not have any

guarantee that the food you buy from the shops has the nutriants in it.

Therefore you have to supploment the diet with suppliments.

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my stance on vitamins

Some here may recall my outrageously high homocysteine levels in the past.

I am talking here about extremely high ones in the 20's. I started treating

myself to get these levels down into the safe level around two years ago,

and I was able to get it down in the mid teens up until this past March.

The only thing I did differently for three or four months before I had my

last A1C level and my homocysteine level done was to take a complex vitamin

B formula containing vitamin C and all of the vitamin B's. Some call it a

stress tablet. Now I understand why it is so important for any diabetic to

takevitamins, and especially all of the vitamin B's and some C.

Homocysteine is a harmful chemical compound formed by the body when it does

not have the balance of factors like B12, B6 and folic acid, I believe B9 in

their body. Homocysteine level is an excellent predictor of heart attack

potential, and mine has always run high to very high. I finally gave up

injecting B12 shots and fooling with those folic acid tablets, and I decided

to just take a single tablet containing all of the vitamin B's along with

some C. I have a well rounded diet, but apparently this is not enough.

This is why I recommend supplements. If you take supplements, then you know

for sure you are getting the vitamins you need, and you no longer have to

guess whether or not you have a " well rounded diet " .

The normal homocysteine level is below 11. After three or four months of

taking the B complex tablets I had a homocysteine of 9 for the first time

in the normal range. It finally happened in March, 2006, when I got an A1C

of 5.4 and a CRP near 4.0. A CRP below 3.0 is desired. People here also

know I am a niacin, vitamin B3, advocate. Every day for the rest of my

life I take at least 1000 mg of Vitamin B3 or niacin. You can count on me

taking it for as long as I live along with a daily tablet of vitamin B

complex with C. In my opinion any diabetic, heart attack victim, stroke

victim, heart bypass surgery victim or candidate or stint implant patient

should take these vitamins every day for the rest of their life in known

quantities, not in a guessed at well rounded diet. In fact if a person

wishes to avoid or prevent a heart attack, stroke, heart bypass surgery, or

a stint implant needs to be on these vitamins only on the day they wish to

live. It will cost you though about $10 or less per month for the rest of

your life. I think you are worth it. Of course there is one big drawback.

You may have to pay this amount for an extra ten or twenty years.

This is my advice to you, and it does not bother me at all to offer it. For

one thing there has never been a recorded death for what I have recommended.

For another I am law suit proof. You can sue me for every thing I own, and

you may get 100% of it. Now how much would that be. Let me see 100% of

nothing is...

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