Hi

[Guest guest]

From a previous message:

mmol/l (millimole per litre) is the British version and mg/dL (milligram

per decilitre) is the US version.

From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/faq/part1/section-9.html

(I hope the table formats ok)

mmol/l mg/dl interpretation

------ ----- --------------

2.0 35 extremely low, danger of unconsciousness

3.0 55 low, marginal insulin reaction

4.0 75 slightly low, first symptoms of lethargy etc.

5.5 100 Mecca

5-6 90-110 normal preprandial in nondiabetics

8.0 150 normal postprandial in nondiabetics

10.0 180 maximum postprandial in nondiabetics

11.0 200

15.0 270 a little high to very high depending on patient

16.5 300

20.0 360 getting up there

22 400 max mg/dl for some meters and strips

33 600 high danger of severe electrolyte imbalance

Preprandial = before meal

Postprandial = after meal

And here is an online conversion tool:

http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/converter.htm

As for the question on carbs - that is more difficult for me to answer.

The nutrition labels list carbs and then breaks it down to proteins and sugars,

but there seems to be no relation. For example:

Fried Chicken 13carb 0fiber 1sugar

tartar (fish) sauce 3carb 0fiber 2sugar

Cocoa powder 19carb 0fiber 17sugar

Salsa flavoured tortilla chips 15carb 2fiber 0sugars

If it is high in sugar it will be high in carbs, but what else comprises

carbs, I don't know.

Hi

Hi Everybody, I calling in to say that I am doing ok, I have a busy lifestyle

which doesn't give me much time for mailing much, but I do read all the mail.

I am able it seems to control my diabetes with D & E, in fact I have lost 30

pounds since late January, my blood pressure has dropped and my blood tests are

near normal levels.

There is a lot of information, especially from the States that is different to

here in the UK, the figures that people use such as 124 or 243 mean nothing to

me, the on figure my blood tester give are figures like 6.8 or 8.4.

Carbs intake confuses me too, everything here in the Uk is marked with it's

sugar and fat content, so I just avoid the high sugar/fat products, and I'm

getting excellent results, can anyone enlighten me, on how to understand what

you guys are saying.

Thanks

(Still 300 pounds but working at it)

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[Guest guest]

'carbs. . .breaks it down into proteins and sugars. . .'

I was under the impression that carbohydrates and proteins were two different

things; that carbohydrates were divided into simple (sugars) and complex

(starches).

To get the net carbohydrates, one (it is my understanding) subtracts the fiber

from the gross carbs. That is, if it lists 15 of carbs and 5 of fiber, the net

carbs is 10.

Re: Hi

As for the question on carbs - that is more difficult for me to

answer. The nutrition labels list carbs and then breaks it down to proteins and

sugars, but there seems to be no relation. For example:

Fried Chicken 13carb 0fiber 1sugar

tartar (fish) sauce 3carb 0fiber 2sugar

Cocoa powder 19carb 0fiber 17sugar

Salsa flavoured tortilla chips 15carb 2fiber 0sugars

If it is high in sugar it will be high in carbs, but what else

comprises carbs, I don't know.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information that makes a lot more sense to me

now, and I have some idea what we are all talking about now!

I'm surprised how motivated I have become, after many years of half

hearted dieting, I am totally focused on loosing weight and

controlling as much as I can, for as long as I can, this diabetes.

The only thing is excercise which is a problem, with prolasped discs

and angina. But I have so much more energy now that I have some

control back, that I am increasing the walking for now at least.

Chris

> From a previous message:

>

> mmol/l (millimole per litre) is the British version and

mg/dL (milligram per decilitre) is the US version.

>

> From http://www.faqs.org/faqs/diabetes/faq/part1/section-

9.html

> (I hope the table formats ok)

>

> mmol/l mg/dl interpretation

> ------ ----- --------------

> 2.0 35 extremely low, danger of unconsciousness

> 3.0 55 low, marginal insulin reaction

> 4.0 75 slightly low, first symptoms of lethargy etc.

> 5.5 100 Mecca

> 5-6 90-110 normal preprandial in nondiabetics

> 8.0 150 normal postprandial in nondiabetics

> 10.0 180 maximum postprandial in nondiabetics

> 11.0 200

> 15.0 270 a little high to very high depending on patient

> 16.5 300

> 20.0 360 getting up there

> 22 400 max mg/dl for some meters and strips

> 33 600 high danger of severe electrolyte imbalance

>

> Preprandial = before meal

> Postprandial = after meal

>

>

> And here is an online conversion tool:

> http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/converter.htm

>

>

> As for the question on carbs - that is more difficult for

me to answer. The nutrition labels list carbs and then breaks it

down to proteins and sugars, but there seems to be no relation. For

example:

>

> Fried Chicken 13carb 0fiber 1sugar

> tartar (fish) sauce 3carb 0fiber 2sugar

> Cocoa powder 19carb 0fiber 17sugar

> Salsa flavoured tortilla chips 15carb 2fiber 0sugars

>

> If it is high in sugar it will be high in carbs, but what

else comprises carbs, I don't know.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/2/2003 2:09:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

heraldhabitat@... writes:

> I am able it seems to control my diabetes with D & E, in fact I have lost 30

> pounds since late January, my blood pressure has dropped and my blood tests

> are near normal levels

Hi

Congratulations on the good work. You're doing great. Keep it up.

Eunice

[Guest guest]

Hi Eileen - thanks for sharing your Dad's story. His story is exactly why I

fight this disease so hard. It is why I don't allow myself sweets and eat

very low carb. It is why I get my lazy butt up and exercise even when I

don't feel like it. His story is what motivates me and I hope it will

motivate others.

Thank you for sharing

Carole

hi

Hi, My name is Eileen, I just joined this group. I myself do not

have diabetes but my father does. He's 46 and has had this horrible

disease for about fifteen years now. He's in and out of the hospital

all the time, partially because he has been non compliant for the

past decade. He's blind, has chronic renal failure, and horrible

neuropathy (peripheral and autonomic) His body is a mess. It's hard

to watch this. For those of you who have diabetes or know someone

who does please make sure that they follow their diet. It's key to

saving their quality of life as they get older.

[Guest guest]

I hope this does help everyone to be motivated enough to follow the

diet. Had my dad done that there would be no problem now. My mother

died three years ago from cancer at the time i thoguht that that was

hard, but i was wrong. Diabetes is so much worse. It slowly, very

slowly breaks down your body BUT it can be prevented.

> Hi Eileen - thanks for sharing your Dad's story. His story is

exactly why I

> fight this disease so hard. It is why I don't allow myself sweets

and eat

> very low carb. It is why I get my lazy butt up and exercise even

when I

> don't feel like it. His story is what motivates me and I hope it

will

> motivate others.

>

> Thank you for sharing

> Carole

> hi

>

>

> Hi, My name is Eileen, I just joined this group. I myself do not

> have diabetes but my father does. He's 46 and has had this

horrible

> disease for about fifteen years now. He's in and out of the

hospital

> all the time, partially because he has been non compliant for the

> past decade. He's blind, has chronic renal failure, and horrible

> neuropathy (peripheral and autonomic) His body is a mess. It's

hard

> to watch this. For those of you who have diabetes or know someone

> who does please make sure that they follow their diet. It's key

to

> saving their quality of life as they get older.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Eva,

How wonderful that you got to see your grandson.

Hugs

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> I just want ti wish everyone a HAPPY HALLOWEEN. Mine was a GREAT one

> cause I got to see my grandson whom I have not been able to

> see for over a year.But his mother brought him by and I cried and

> hugged them both (she is my youngest sons wife and we have been

> astranged for over a year now)but hopefully tonite was a new

> beginning for all of us..

> Love to all

> Eva

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eva

That is such good news.I am so glad for you. No matter what we should try to be good to one another and especially family.

Thank God things will be better for you,I am sure

hugs Debbie

[Guest guest]

Eva, that is great, I dont know what I would do if I couldnt see my grand

sons. I hope it is a new beginning for you.

Jeana

Hi

> I just want ti wish everyone a HAPPY HALLOWEEN. Mine was a GREAT one

> cause I got to see my grandson whom I have not been able to

> see for over a year.But his mother brought him by and I cried and

> hugged them both (she is my youngest sons wife and we have been

> astranged for over a year now)but hopefully tonite was a new

> beginning for all of us..

> Love to all

> Eva

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are a wonderful person,Eva, and I am all glad you have made it another year.

God will see you through each day and bless you forevermore.

Hugs

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Sue-Anne wrote:

> Hi

>

> My name is Sue-Anne. I am 41 years old and have a 16 year old daughter.

> I live in Ontario Canada. I was diagnosed in June of this year. Had a

> lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I had 11 nodes removed with 2 being

> positive. I started chemo in September and will have my last treatment

> on December 29. I will have radiation in Feb. of 04 probably for 5 or 6

> weeks. Feel free to ask any questions.

>

> Talk to you Soon

> Sue-Anne

Sue-Anne, how have you been feeling? How much has all the treatment

affected your normal activities? I mean, have you been able to work and

whatever?

Tom

[Guest guest]

Hi

My onc didn't want me to work during my treatment. I work with special needs children and he was worried about illness. I am usually sick for about 4 or 5 days after my treatment. I am on FEC. It hits me very hard but the rest of the time I do pretty much everything.

Talk to you Soon

Sue-Anne

Re: hi

Sue-Anne wrote:> Hi > > My name is Sue-Anne. I am 41 years old and have a 16 year old daughter. > I live in Ontario Canada. I was diagnosed in June of this year. Had a > lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I had 11 nodes removed with 2 being > positive. I started chemo in September and will have my last treatment > on December 29. I will have radiation in Feb. of 04 probably for 5 or 6 > weeks. Feel free to ask any questions.> > Talk to you Soon> Sue-AnneSue-Anne, how have you been feeling? How much has all the treatment affected your normal activities? I mean, have you been able to work and whatever?Tom

[Guest guest]

Hi my onco didnt want me to work either. I worked in retail and was around so much sickness. I didnt feel like working anyway.

Jeana

Re: hi

Sue-Anne wrote:> Hi > > My name is Sue-Anne. I am 41 years old and have a 16 year old daughter. > I live in Ontario Canada. I was diagnosed in June of this year. Had a > lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy. I had 11 nodes removed with 2 being > positive. I started chemo in September and will have my last treatment > on December 29. I will have radiation in Feb. of 04 probably for 5 or 6 > weeks. Feel free to ask any questions.> > Talk to you Soon> Sue-AnneSue-Anne, how have you been feeling? How much has all the treatment affected your normal activities? I mean, have you been able to work and whatever?Tom

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sue-Anne and Jeana.

My wife knows it might hit her hard, and she plans to play it by ear,

but at the same time, she is scheduling an almost normal amount of

activity. But there's a chance she'll back down if she needs to. She

teaches voice and piano to adults and children. And she's in school for

massage therapy. She will let school suffer first, as she already has.

Tom

Jeana wrote:

> Hi my onco didnt want me to work either. I worked in retail and was

> around so much sickness. I didnt feel like working anyway.

> Jeana

>

> * Re: hi

>

> Hi

>

>

> My onc didn't want me to work during my treatment. I work with

> special needs children and he was worried about illness. I am

> usually sick for about 4 or 5 days after my treatment. I am on FEC.

> It hits me very hard but the rest of the time I do pretty much

> everything.

>

> Talk to you Soon

> Sue-Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Rena, I'm glad you decided to drop in and join us. As to when you

stop second guessing...I think it depends on the person. When I was

diagnosed, I talked to my doctor and the oncologist and my husband

with a few comments thrown in my my children (all 4 grown) and made up

my mind what I wanted. I don't second guess since then. I was happy

with my doctor, my family agreed with my decision and none of feel we

need to go back and second guess again. If the bc should (heaven

forbid) return, then I think I would go the same route again. Doris

> Hi, My name is Rena, my hubby JR has been in your group now for

several weeks. He's been encouraging me to visit but for one reason

another I just haven't. I did just finish my 4th and last round of

chemo Wednesday. I am glad there are no more, this one was the worst,

I just started moving a little today. It seems like everytime I ask

questions I get a different answere and the statistics vary so much

that I wonder if we are doing right or wrong. It is all so mind

blowing. When do you quit getting a second opinion and when do you

say i've got enough information and now i'm going to make my own

decision. When do you stop second guessing every move that you make.

> Thanks

> Rena

[Guest guest]

Rena,

I am so glad you came into the group and said hello. I agree with Doris! I don't know if I am the norm or not most likely not at least I pray that I am not. I had cancer back in 2001 and then it returned in Jan 2003 then I had surgery in May have 2003 and now I am fighting it again in the other breast. Yes, it is scary if it comes back and yes you are scared thinking have I made the right decision but what I did is follow my heart. I did seek a second opinion and I am glad I did. This doctor I have now is a sweet heart he explains everything to me and asks if I am comfortable with it and he tells me all the red flags in my reports and what we need to do. Then he sits and listens to me he wants to know how I feel.

The important thing is to know how you feel if you are happy with your doctor and the decisions you have made then there is no need to second guess yourself. Follow your heart. I am not saying that you will have good days all the time but every day is a challenge. I don't know if I help or scared you please do not think what happened to me will happen to you because most likely it won't. Be thankful for each day God gives you I am.

You and your husband are in my prayers,

Blessings,

Ronda

[Guest guest]

How true, I have absolute faith in my doctor and that means the world

to me as far as " resting easy " about my condition.

I don't think hearing about yourself should scare us Ronda because the

majority of b.c. survivors never have a repeat of the b.c. And hey,

pehaps a bit of fear is not bad...if it makes us take care of

ourselves and do our monthly bse as we should. Doris

> Rena,

>

>

> The important thing is to know how you feel if you are happy with

your doctor

> and the decisions you have made then there is no need to second guess

> yourself. Follow your heart. I am not saying that you will have

good days all the

> time but every day is a challenge. I don't know if I help or scared

you please

> do not think what happened to me will happen to you because most

likely it

> won't. Be thankful for each day God gives you I am.

>

> You and your husband are in my prayers,

>

> Blessings,

> Ronda

[Guest guest]

Hi Rena,

I am glad you joined us. One of the most important things is to trust your dr and feel comfortable with him. Every case is different so you will hear a lot of different things from different people. Just do a lot of research a decide what it is you want and what you are comfortable with and talk it over with your doctor. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

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HI

Hi, My name is Rena, my hubby JR has been in your group now for several weeks. He's been encouraging me to visit but for one reason another I just haven't. I did just finish my 4th and last round of chemo Wednesday. I am glad there are no more, this one was the worst, I just started moving a little today. It seems like everytime I ask questions I get a different answere and the statistics vary so much that I wonder if we are doing right or wrong. It is all so mind blowing. When do you quit getting a second opinion and when do you say i've got enough information and now i'm going to make my own decision. When do you stop second guessing every move that you make.

Thanks

Rena

[Guest guest]

--- hi rena and i am so glad you join us because girl if there is

anything you need is a support grp on ladies who has been or going

through what you are and can tell you of their own experience of

what they done and you are in the best support grp ever right here

and there will be all who will try and help you and that husband of

yours really concern over you and your best cure is your family and

your love ones and it depends on you on how to second guess itand

with your family and support you will figure oout how to go on and

give it to our lord jesus christ he will help you through this and

there will be days you feel its coming back and days you will be ok

i felt like i was a roller coaster up and down but as time went by i

knew i was going to be ok and when you talk with all here you will

see yourself getting better knowing they experience the same as you

and this is great therapy because you say heh i went through the

same thing so i am here and there are tons of ladies who are here to

help you in any way doris marianne jeana and all kinds who can get

you a hand

cherylIn breastcancer2 , " The Ivey's " <ivy@c...>

wrote:

> Hi, My name is Rena, my hubby JR has been in your group now for

several weeks. He's been encouraging me to visit but for one reason

another I just haven't. I did just finish my 4th and last round of

chemo Wednesday. I am glad there are no more, this one was the

worst, I just started moving a little today.

[Guest guest]

Doris,

I never know how much to say specially when you tell them about

yourself. I don't want to scare anyone but then you are right when

we hear other peoples stories and what they have been through it

helps us to thank God for our blessings. I just don't want to scare

anyone new. But, at the same time I spoke the truth it may happen

and if it does God will give you the straighth that you need to make

it. That is what I mean by scaring someone because I have been

through so much at my young age. I don't wish it on anyone! But at

the same time I want all women to know how important Self Breast

exams are as well. If I say something wrong please let me know.

Lately, I am not thinking clearly I blame that on the treatments. I

am proud of myself I made it today all day at the office. Everytime

I was getting ready to leave something else came up but I know I will

pay for it tomorrow. Betty reminded me again that I have cancer and

I need to slow down. At the same time I want to be of help she told

me tomorrow I will not be in until 10 and you will leave at 2 and

there is no ands if or but on this one it my way or no way. So, I do

have a good friend looking out for me. I just feel blessed that I

felt well enough to go all day. I know there will be days I will not

be able to go at all. Please let me know if I am doing anything

wrong.

Ronda

> > Rena,

> >

> >

> > The important thing is to know how you feel if you are happy with

> your doctor

> > and the decisions you have made then there is no need to second

guess

> > yourself. Follow your heart. I am not saying that you will have

> good days all the

> > time but every day is a challenge. I don't know if I help or

scared

> you please

> > do not think what happened to me will happen to you because most

> likely it

> > won't. Be thankful for each day God gives you I am.

> >

> > You and your husband are in my prayers,

> >

> > Blessings,

> > Ronda

[Guest guest]

Ronda,

Sharing your thoughts and feeling is not wrong. There is no way you could

say anything wrong in here. Thats what we are here for. To listen and try to

help each other.

Continued prayers for you.

Hugs

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Re: HI

> Doris,

>

> I never know how much to say specially when you tell them about

> yourself. I don't want to scare anyone but then you are right when

> we hear other peoples stories and what they have been through it

> helps us to thank God for our blessings. I just don't want to scare

> anyone new. But, at the same time I spoke the truth it may happen

> and if it does God will give you the straighth that you need to make

> it. That is what I mean by scaring someone because I have been

> through so much at my young age. I don't wish it on anyone! But at

> the same time I want all women to know how important Self Breast

> exams are as well. If I say something wrong please let me know.

>

> Lately, I am not thinking clearly I blame that on the treatments. I

> am proud of myself I made it today all day at the office. Everytime

> I was getting ready to leave something else came up but I know I will

> pay for it tomorrow. Betty reminded me again that I have cancer and

> I need to slow down. At the same time I want to be of help she told

> me tomorrow I will not be in until 10 and you will leave at 2 and

> there is no ands if or but on this one it my way or no way. So, I do

> have a good friend looking out for me. I just feel blessed that I

> felt well enough to go all day. I know there will be days I will not

> be able to go at all. Please let me know if I am doing anything

> wrong.

>

> Ronda

>

> > > Rena,

> > >

> > >

> > > The important thing is to know how you feel if you are happy with

> > your doctor

> > > and the decisions you have made then there is no need to second

> guess

> > > yourself. Follow your heart. I am not saying that you will have

> > good days all the

> > > time but every day is a challenge. I don't know if I help or

> scared

> > you please

> > > do not think what happened to me will happen to you because most

> > likely it

> > > won't. Be thankful for each day God gives you I am.

> > >

> > > You and your husband are in my prayers,

> > >

> > > Blessings,

> > > Ronda

>

>

>

>

>

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Im on .25mgs of risperdal and 50mgs of visteril at night. Im also on

..1mg of synthroid. I have tapering down from 6 since my last

hosptialization in octerber without incident. I have gotten signed up

for a lot of services. My parents are much more cooperative and my

mother is activily helping. I been going to naturopath and she has

really helped me. The problem though is im not seeing the miraculous

regenerative results i first did. I still have severe nuerocognitive

and nueropscycologic issues. my sleep is good.