Re: Am I Shooting Myself in the Foot? VCO on Lips?

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Mrs. B,

> As I am reading a review on Amazon.com of EFLF, the author of the review

> talks about VCO being very drying.......

> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I think VCO is generally very good for skin. However, perhaps if one

is sensitive to salicylates or other phenolic compounds in it it could

be drying.

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Lanolin is what we use on any cracked/dry skin. Especially lips...it is

VERY healing and works quickly. I regularly use a lip balm with coconut

oil, shea butter & lanolin in it and LOVE it. There are LOTS of great

lip balms found in HFS...just look for something without petroleum

products. That is the key.

Am I Shooting Myself in the Foot? VCO on Lips?

I HATE buying store-bought chemical-laden lip balms...but DO need

SOMETHING!

HELP!

Mrs B

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On 1/28/07, Mrs Bernstein <mrsdanielbernstein@...> wrote:

<snip>

> Walah! THe lightbulb goes off in my head that I should use VCO as a lip

balm. From a post the other day about VCO in the bath and smooth SKIN...I

thought...this should work! Today...my lips are REALLY dry and

cracked...pealing, dead skin....

Coconut oil is definitely drying. I don't think it would work very

well as a lip balm.

> I HATE buying store-bought chemical-laden lip balms...but DO need SOMETHING!

Ghee works really well. Put it on at night and in the morning your

lips will be much better.

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> On 1/28/07, Mrs Bernstein <mrsdanielbernstein@...> wrote:

> <snip>

> > I HATE buying store-bought chemical-laden lip balms...

> > but DO need SOMETHING!

>

--- Furbish <efurbish@...> wrote:

> Ghee works really well. Put it on at night and in the morning your

> lips will be much better.

Avery,

You can also try drinking more water when the air is dry - especially

in the winter. That should help to avoid the cracked dry lips in the

first place and will help them to heal faster.

I find that my lips start drying out before I start getting thirsty.

So, I use lip dryness as an indicator to let me know I need to drink

water. If you wait until you're actually thirsty, it may be too late.

If ghee works well for protecting and soothing dry lips, I wonder if

butter would work just as well?

[Guest guest]

,

> Ghee works really well. Put it on at night and in the morning your

> lips will be much better.

I fully concur. Ghee has been working GREAT for my recent

vegetable-and-fruit-excursion-induced eczema.

Chris

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--- Furbish <efurbish@...> wrote:

> Butter wouldn't stay on my lips long enough to do any good...

>

> It's also shown to cause an 84% increase in night drooling. Pillows

> everywhere beware.

,

Where'd you hear that?

Could it have been from " droolmaster " Gene Schwartz?

<he hasn't posted since Nov - where are you Gene?>

And is the night drooling before or after you fall asleep?

And with or without intimate company?

<pardon me, Avery>

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I love Burt's Bees lip balm - also the colored ones. I am going to be

making my own soon but I think if you have to buy it, that would be the

best. : ) Shery

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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:49 PM

Subject: Am I Shooting Myself in the Foot? VCO on Lips?

Hello again!

Yes! I PROMISE that I have an endless amount of questions! :-)

I have exceptionally dry/cracked/bleeding lips. Well, I accidently touched

my ringworm on my neck the other day and then touched my lips. Since I do

NOT want to wash my lips with soap...I used the VCO as a topical anti-yucky!

My lips felt REALLY smooth!

Walah! THe lightbulb goes off in my head that I should use VCO as a lip

balm. From a post the other day about VCO in the bath and smooth SKIN...I

thought...this should work! Today...my lips are REALLY dry and

cracked...pealing, dead skin....

As I am reading a review on Amazon.com of EFLF, the author of the review

talks about VCO being very drying.......

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I HATE buying store-bought chemical-laden lip balms...but DO need SOMETHING!

HELP!

Mrs B

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[Guest guest]

> I fully concur. Ghee has been working GREAT for my recent

> vegetable-and-fruit-excursion-induced eczema.

>

> Chris

Why do vegetables and fruit cause you to have eczema? My son has eczema on the

backs of

his hands... one hand in particular kind of in-between the fingers but more to

the back side

of the hand and mostly between the little finger and the ring finger and it

NEVER goes away

but it gets worse and better. He is now 20 and has had it since he was around

13 or 14.

Nothing makes it goes away... some things makes is better... I think.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

> Well, I accidently touched my ringworm on my neck the other day

and then touched my lips.

Hi Mrs B,

Is that ringworm still troubling you, then? You may want to try

putting urine on it--it works very well and at the right price.

Pee into a cup and pour it over the affected area--as opposed to

dabbing it on--and it works much better. Please don't ask me how I

know this because I don't want to talk about it...

Re: the lip thing: ghee. Butter would work but one runs the risk of

the milk solids forming little white specks on the lips, I'd suppose.

Also you couldn't just carry it about in a little container in the

purse, like ghee.

B.

[Guest guest]

> Hello again!

>

> Yes! I PROMISE that I have an endless amount of questions! :-)

>

> I have exceptionally dry/cracked/bleeding lips. Well, I accidently

touched my ringworm on my neck the other day and then touched my lips.

Since I do NOT want to wash my lips with soap...I used the VCO as a

topical anti-yucky! My lips felt REALLY smooth!

> Mrs B

Mrs. B:

Along the lines of prevention, what is your diet like?

My skin really got better with eating more good fats and vitamin K

sources. (don't laugh, but high-quality alfalfa in capsules)

Connie

[Guest guest]

>

> ,

>

> I'm giggling like a schoolgirl after reading your email, " Please

don't ask me how I

> know this because I don't want to talk about it... " You're

priceless.

>

,

I don't want anyone to misunderstand:

My mind was overly attached to the notion of residing in a fungus-free

organism and so, predictably, suffering ensued.

The peeing on things part OTOH...hey, it was fun in kindergarten and

it's fun now.

B.

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On 1/28/07, Furbish <efurbish@...> wrote:

> Coconut oil is definitely drying. I don't think it would work very

> well as a lip balm.

I wonder if this is an individual thing or perhaps I am an exception.

Coconut oil has been touted as great for the skin. I use it over my

entire body (including my lips) and it works wonders. Not drying at

all.

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I shave my head and started using coconut oil there. It's not drying for me at

all. It leaves my head feeling extremely soft, albeit a tad oily for the first

few minutes. The next morning, minus the morning shadow, it's a soft as a

baby's bottom.

<slethnobotanist@...> wrote: On

1/28/07, Furbish <efurbish@...> wrote:

> Coconut oil is definitely drying. I don't think it would work very

> well as a lip balm.

I wonder if this is an individual thing or perhaps I am an exception.

Coconut oil has been touted as great for the skin. I use it over my

entire body (including my lips) and it works wonders. Not drying at

all.

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representative of the bayonet, the billy, and the bullet. It is a

labor-saving device for ascertaining on which side force lies and

bowing to the inevitable. The voice of the majority saves bloodshed,

but it is no less the arbitrament of force than is the decree of the

most absolute of despots backed by the most powerful of armies.

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--- In , <slethnobotanist@...>

wrote:

> I wonder if this is an individual thing or perhaps I am an exception.

> Coconut oil has been touted as great for the skin. I use it over my

> entire body (including my lips) and it works wonders. Not drying at

> all.

>

,

Is your skin typically dry? Do you have constantly peeling lips?

Coconut oil has drying--as well as cooling--properties, so someone who

already has problems with dryness may find that condition aggravated

when they use coconut oil.

Someone with a " hot " constitution and well-lubricated tissues will

find coconut oil ideal.

That's why it's so good for sex and rubbing onto the genitals--it

cools off the hot spots. Also why it's used to rub into the feet and

scalp at night, it cools everything down so people can experience

sounder sleep.

A small-boned, thin person with dry skin who is cold all the time is

not a good candidate for using vco as a moisturizer.

B.

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--- In , <slethnobotanist@...>

wrote:

> Maybe I will delurk off that list and share the good news, sans names

> of course :-)

>

,

If by the above you mean to share the good news about me, even " sans

names " , I request you don't, as I don't trust you to keep things

confidential, due to past incidents, including a recent post of yours

on this list using my last name. Thanks.

B.

[Guest guest]

>

> I shave my head and started using coconut oil there. It's not

drying for me at all. It leaves my head feeling extremely soft,

albeit a tad oily for the first few minutes.

,

That your scalp remains oily for the first few minutes after applying

the oil indicates the skin there isn't overly dry to begin with,

otherwise the oil would absorb almost immediately.

I presume you sweat easily when you train--or no?

Coconut palms are native afaik in hot and humid climates, where the

oil, meat, and water are perfect nourishment for hot, sweaty humans.

These qualities inherent in the oil are why it's so good for burned skin.

B.

[Guest guest]

I'm small-boned, thin with dry skin who is cold all the time and VCO has been

WONDERFUL for my skin.

My skin has never, ever been SO soft and supple. I am always getting

comments on how wonderful my skin looks. I LOVE my VCO!

Pamela

downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

A small-boned, thin person with dry skin who is cold all the time is

not a good candidate for using vco as a moisturizer.

B.

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Hi ,

I wouldn't say I sweat easily but I do indeed sweat. My skin is normally oily

but I figured since shaving my head was a recent decision (mid-August) and there

are many products out there to moisturize this area that I'd try the coconut

oil. It was never dry but with the winter upon us and temperatures down, lack

of moisture in the air and an exposed head that the coconut oil might not be a

bad idea.

I've heard that coconut oil can also serve as sunscreen although past a few

minor comments I haven't seen any real references. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance and have a fantastic day!

downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

>

> I shave my head and started using coconut oil there. It's not

drying for me at all. It leaves my head feeling extremely soft,

albeit a tad oily for the first few minutes.

,

That your scalp remains oily for the first few minutes after applying

the oil indicates the skin there isn't overly dry to begin with,

otherwise the oil would absorb almost immediately.

I presume you sweat easily when you train--or no?

Coconut palms are native afaik in hot and humid climates, where the

oil, meat, and water are perfect nourishment for hot, sweaty humans.

These qualities inherent in the oil are why it's so good for burned skin.

B.

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[Guest guest]

>

> I'm small-boned, thin with dry skin who is cold all the time and VCO

has been WONDERFUL for my skin.

>

> My skin has never, ever been SO soft and supple. I am always

getting comments on how wonderful my skin looks. I LOVE my VCO!

>

Pamela,

Good on you, then, but that doesn't change the properties of coconut oil.

Sounds like you're entirely satisfied with vco, but you may find

another oil to be a superior lubricant.

B.

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Pamela,

Just FYI and there are probably other causes, but being cold all the

time is one of the sympmtoms of iodine deficiency. I was eating kelp

and seafood and still wound up deficient, I think it has to do with

other contaminents too like fluoride, chlorine, and bromine (flame

retardant and baked goods).

--- In , Pamela <calblonde1@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm small-boned, thin with dry skin who is cold all the time and

VCO has been WONDERFUL for my skin.

>

> My skin has never, ever been SO soft and supple. I am always

getting comments on how wonderful my skin looks. I LOVE my VCO!

>

> Pamela

>

> downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...>

wrote:

> A small-boned, thin person with dry skin who is cold all the time

is

> not a good candidate for using vco as a moisturizer.

> B.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

> Coconut oil has drying--as well as cooling--properties,

When you say " drying, " do you mean it reduces the amount of water, or

are you using an ayurvedic definition that does not necessarily

correspond to a chemistry-centered definition?

Chris

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>

> ,

> When you say " drying, " do you mean it reduces the amount of water, or

> are you using an ayurvedic definition that does not necessarily

> correspond to a chemistry-centered definition?

>

When I say " drying " in regard to vco, I'm unable to define it in a

chemistry-centered manner, but if one puts it on very chapped lips,

one will likely experience not so much an immediate lubrication

effect, but more of a solvent-type action, and need to keep reapplying

it without much relief. Whereas if one applied ghee to this same set

of lips, one would likely notice the lips become softer right away and

the peeling soothed. Same with the hands. Coconut oil isn't the oil

of choice for chapped hands in winter weather.

A number of people on the coconut oil forum have described their dry

skin improving and ultimately becoming very soft, but that was after

an inital period of constant peeling.

B.

[Guest guest]

On 1/31/07, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

>

>

> > I wonder if this is an individual thing or perhaps I am an exception.

> > Coconut oil has been touted as great for the skin. I use it over my

> > entire body (including my lips) and it works wonders. Not drying at

> > all.

> >

> ,

>

> Is your skin typically dry?

It varies depending on my particular dietary emphasis at the moment.

Plus what I might consider " dry " others might not. I like my skin to

be as smooth as a baby's bottom.

> Do you have constantly peeling lips?

No

> Coconut oil has drying--as well as cooling--properties, so someone who

> already has problems with dryness may find that condition aggravated

> when they use coconut oil.

not here

> Someone with a " hot " constitution and well-lubricated tissues will

> find coconut oil ideal.

okay

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What is the ballot? It is neither more nor less than a paper

representative of the bayonet, the billy, and the bullet. It is a

labor-saving device for ascertaining on which side force lies and

bowing to the inevitable. The voice of the majority saves bloodshed,

but it is no less the arbitrament of force than is the decree of the

most absolute of despots backed by the most powerful of armies.

~ R. Tucker

[Guest guest]

Thanks, sweet, for the wonderful advice.

I am already a member of Zoe's brilliant Iodine Group,

iodine/

I am taking 50 mg of Lugol's and getting fabulous results!

Pamela

haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

Pamela,

Just FYI and there are probably other causes, but being cold all the

time is one of the sympmtoms of iodine deficiency. I was eating kelp

and seafood and still wound up deficient, I think it has to do with

other contaminents too like fluoride, chlorine, and bromine (flame

retardant and baked goods).

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Hi Pam

How are you measuring your iodine? I have a bottle of Lugol's and take two

drops a day.

Thanks,

Pamela <calblonde1@...> wrote: Thanks,

sweet, for the wonderful advice.

I am already a member of Zoe's brilliant Iodine Group,

iodine/

I am taking 50 mg of Lugol's and getting fabulous results!

Pamela

haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

Pamela,

Just FYI and there are probably other causes, but being cold all the

time is one of the sympmtoms of iodine deficiency. I was eating kelp

and seafood and still wound up deficient, I think it has to do with

other contaminents too like fluoride, chlorine, and bromine (flame

retardant and baked goods).

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