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I had surgery for a hernia in March and I had no problems at all. In fact,

they estimated that I'd probably spend about 3 days in the hospital, but

they let me go home the same day (after only a few hours in recovery)

because I was doing so well. I was sure happy to hear that, as I hate

hospitals. I seemed to heal quickly with no trouble. My bg was low at the

time, because I didn't feel like eating much. I ate lots of regular

popcicles with no problems. Usually, I don't eat them. It was a county

hospital and I often wonder if they just let me leave early because they

needed the bed or if I really was doing well. But I seemed to be doing

great. They were supposed to give me instructions about changing the

bandage often, but of course they didn't. I was afraid to mess with it

since they didn't say to and didn't realize that it needed to be changed. I

went back in 10 days to get the stitches out and they were horrified that I

hadn't changed bandages in all that time. I had to take antibiotics for a

week, just in case. But I never had a bit of trouble. The surgery only

cost $50 and I guess you can't expect decent health care for that much. It

was probably worth about that. They said not to eat breakfast or take my

diabetes medicine the morning of the surgery. It was scheduled for 9:30 am,

but they didn't get to me until after noon. By that time I was starving!

And talk about stress. :( But, all told, everything went very well.

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Nothing wrong in suggesting alternatives that work for you. However remember

that it works for you and you alone. Everyone is individual and responds

differently. Additionally it would be wrong to encourage anyone to change

their regime without seeking proper medical advice. This is because diabetes

is a serious condition that if managed incorrectly can lead to very nasty and

painful things.

Suggest what works for you but always say, that it works for you and that

others need to seek doc's advice before changing management plan.

Fenella

Registered Nurse

>

> As a support group, I would think our main interest/concern is to

> support each and every member as best we can; but does that prohibit

> us from encouraging others to try things outside of the typical drugs

> that our doctors are so used to recommending inspite of the side

> affects? What I'm wanting to know is if someone were to try

> something that helped them, are they allowed to mention it or is that

> disallowed or frowned upon? Thanks,

>

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In a message dated 2/18/2003 11:33:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,

monarchintl@... writes:

> What I'm wanting to know is if someone were to try

> something that helped them, are they allowed to mention it or is that

> disallowed or frowned upon?

Hi ,

If something works for you, it is okay to share it with the group, as long as

you are not selling the product. Always say, " this works for me, but it may

not work for you, and always remind people that before starting anything new,

herbs, vitamins, etc that they should discuss it with their doctor first.

In the past, we have had some ridiculous suggestions such as sun bathing

naked in the breeze, or some such thing, would cure you of diabetes. We all

know that is not going to work. (We all had a good laugh with this one, so

it may have helped reduce the stress level for some of our members.)

We have also had people discuss using cinnamon, green tea to control bg's and

for some people the cinnamon does seem to work. I am now seeing commercials

for green tea capsules for weight loss.

As long as it is not a " miracle cure " you are permitted to post it.

Eunice - List Owner/Co-Moderator

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Hi Stefanie,

I was receptor negative so can't take Tamoxifen. What you are experiencing

are signs of menopause. Maybe some of the other ladies can answer your

questions. I will keep you in my prayers.

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> I was diagnosed with 1st stage breast cancer at 24. I went through

> radiation treatment and took tamoxifin for 5 years. I did not

> become menopausel, and I still have a monthly cycle. But I am now

> trying to start a family and I'm starting to notice hot flashes and

> at times night sweats. My question is, " Is this a sign of menopause

> and how is this going to affect conception? "

>

> If someone has gone through this same experience, I would like to

> know what you did to solve this problem. I will be contacting my

> obgyn about this concerns, but I also wanted to hear from others.

>

> Thanks,

> Stefanie

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>

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Best bet is to talk with your OBGYN. However, there is something called paramenopause that begins around 30 that mimics menopause. There is a blood test your doctor can order that will let you know if you are ovulating.

Good luck.

Dianna

question> I was diagnosed with 1st stage breast cancer at 24. I went through> radiation treatment and took tamoxifin for 5 years. I did not> become menopausel, and I still have a monthly cycle. But I am now> trying to start a family and I'm starting to notice hot flashes and> at times night sweats. My question is, "Is this a sign of menopause> and how is this going to affect conception?">> If someone has gone through this same experience, I would like to> know what you did to solve this problem. I will be contacting my> obgyn about this concerns, but I also wanted to hear from others.>> Thanks,> Stefanie>>>>

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Ronda,

No question is a dumb question. I think if it were me I would stay home unless your nausea was completely taken care of. To me there would be nothing worse than trying to concentrate feeling nauseated. But the final decision is up to you.

As for Betty I think you did the right thing and explained yourself quite well. Just being there and offering hugs is a big help when you are down. Bless her for being there for you.

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Hi Everyone,I have a question and I hope it is not a dumb questions. As I shared with you I am taking my final chemo treatment until January. I have had a hard time keeping anything down and the doctors are aware and are trying to find the right medication to help me. The person who is over me at work told me that I should ask if I can leave town for three days. I have a conference that is mandatory for me to attend for three day Tuesday through Thursday morning. But, since I have had problems keeping anything down she feel that maybe I shouldn't go to far from home. To tell you the truth I was looking forward to this time away to keep my mind off of the surgery on Friday. I don't know what I should do what would you do if you were me?Also, how do you tell someone that you look up to and love that all you need them to do is support you by encouraging words. The person who is over me her name is Betty and I was told by one of her family members that she has been calling them crying because it is so hard to watch someone you care about go through surgery and chemo. She asked me today what can she do to take the pain away. I told her all she could do is encourage me when I feel like telling the doctors I don't want to do these treatment any longer. Betty reminded me this is what is going to save my life and fighting cancer isn't easy and I told her you are correct I just need your love and encouragement. Does anyone else have another way I can explain it to her? I think she feels like she has to physically do something for me when all I need is support and a hug. I don't know! I appreciate all that she has done for me since February when I started this fight for the second time and now that I am going into the three time I appreciate her even more. It's hard when you are single and you have no family close by and she is always there for me which I appreciate.I hope my questions are to dumb! Thanks for listening.Hugs and Prayers,Ronda

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I would let my body tell me whether or not I should make the trip...if

you think you can, go for it, but remember that you are having surgery

the next day so you might want to be wary of being in a large group

because of the danger of " catching " something that would delay your

surgery.

About your friend, I would continue to tell her what you have been

and let her go from there...some people have a need to do more and if

she is one of them, let her...it will help her and you can probably

need all the extras you can get at this time. And if she is crying,

then that is okay too...sometimes we need to cry for ourselves and for

others and she may feeling a bit of relief about this with the crying.

I do think her family/friends should not have told you this...she is

crying and probably would not want them to go back and tell you.

Don't let it upset you, some people cry a lot easier than others...I

am a crier myself...doris

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I have a question and I hope it is not a dumb questions. As I

shared with

> you I am taking my final chemo treatment until January. I have had

a hard time

> keeping anything down and the doctors are aware and are trying to

find the

> right medication to help me. The person who is over me at work told

me that I

> should ask if I can leave town for three days. I have a conference

that is

> mandatory for me to attend for three day Tuesday through Thursday

morning. But,

> since I have had problems keeping anything down she feel that maybe

I shouldn't

> go to far from home. To tell you the truth I was looking forward to

this

> time away to keep my mind off of the surgery on Friday. I don't

know what I

> should do what would you do if you were me?

>

> Also, how do you tell someone that you look up to and love that all

you need

> them to do is support you by encouraging words. The person who is

over me her

> name is Betty and I was told by one of her family members that she

has been

> calling them crying because it is so hard to watch someone you care

about go

> through surgery and chemo. She asked me today what can she do to

take the pain

> away. I told her all she could do is encourage me when I feel like

telling

> the doctors I don't want to do these treatment any longer. Betty

reminded me

> this is what is going to save my life and fighting cancer isn't easy

and I told

> her you are correct I just need your love and encouragement. Does

anyone else

> have another way I can explain it to her? I think she feels like

she has to

> physically do something for me when all I need is support and a hug.

I don't

> know! I appreciate all that she has done for me since February when

I started

> this fight for the second time and now that I am going into the

three time I

> appreciate her even more. It's hard when you are single and you

have no

> family close by and she is always there for me which I appreciate.

>

> I hope my questions are to dumb! Thanks for listening.

>

> Hugs and Prayers,

> Ronda

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The

American Cancer Soiciety Or the Komen Foundation should be able to help with

that. call the local chapter or affilate.

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> I had a friend email me and ask if anyone knows of a place that will

> take your hair before you receive chemo and make a wig? She was

> wondering if there was anywhere that would do it free? She mentioned

> Locks of Love but I cannot find it on the internet but have to search

> more.

> Any help would be appreciated :)

> Hugs

> nne

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>

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Thanks Jeana. Never thought of that!

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>

>

> > I had a friend email me and ask if anyone knows of a place that will

> > take your hair before you receive chemo and make a wig? She was

> > wondering if there was anywhere that would do it free? She mentioned

> > Locks of Love but I cannot find it on the internet but have to search

> > more.

> > Any help would be appreciated :)

> > Hugs

> > nne

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have heard of this...just sent off an e-mail to a friend who might

know...will let you know.

> I had a friend email me and ask if anyone knows of a place that will

> take your hair before you receive chemo and make a wig? She was

> wondering if there was anywhere that would do it free? She mentioned

> Locks of Love but I cannot find it on the internet but have to search

> more.

> Any help would be appreciated :)

> Hugs

> nne

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Thanks Doris. Any help will be apprecitated.

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> I have heard of this...just sent off an e-mail to a friend who might

> know...will let you know.

>

>

> > I had a friend email me and ask if anyone knows of a place that will

> > take your hair before you receive chemo and make a wig? She was

> > wondering if there was anywhere that would do it free? She mentioned

> > Locks of Love but I cannot find it on the internet but have to search

> > more.

> > Any help would be appreciated :)

> > Hugs

> > nne

>

>

>

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Ronda,

I would definitely tell her to go to another dr for a second opinion. A breast specialist would probably be the best if there is one close by. I don't see why they couldn't do a mastectomy. There are other ladies that have had lumpectomies and then end up having a mastectomy. Keep us posted.

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Hello Everyone:

I have a friend who has had to lumpectomy with in two years. This first time it was cancer and fibrocystic breast so she went through chemotherapy. Then this year she had another lumpectomy and the test came back as fibrocystic and she is tired of all these lumpectomy and now she has another lump in the same place and she wants the surgeon to do mastectomy so she doesn't have to deal with having these lumpectomies every couple years. The surgeon said this can't be done. My opinion is that if she wants it done why not it is her body. I agree with her I would be tired of all the cost of the surgeries even though she has insurance. What do you think I should tell my friend? Any advice would be great.

Thanks

Ronda

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My surgeon also said no to double mastectomy unless it is indicated as

being needed. doris

> Hello Everyone:

>

> I have a friend who has had to lumpectomy with in two years. This

first time

> it was cancer and fibrocystic breast so she went through

chemotherapy. Then

> this year she had another lumpectomy and the test came back as

fibrocystic and

> she is tired of all these lumpectomy and now she has another lump in

the same

> place and she wants the surgeon to do mastectomy so she doesn't have

to deal

> with having these lumpectomies every couple years. The surgeon said

this

> can't be done. My opinion is that if she wants it done why not it

is her body. I

> agree with her I would be tired of all the cost of the surgeries

even though

> she has insurance. What do you think I should tell my friend? Any

advice

> would be great.

>

> Thanks

> Ronda

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Ronda, I would think that the Dr would talk to whom ever you choose to be your support. I cant believe that he wont see you. I agree with you in getting a second opinion. When are good friend had a stroke she had no family, and the Dr let us sit in on all discussions about what was happening and what her decision would be, he even ask our opinions. I think your Dr is wrong.

Hope the rest of your day goes better

Jeana

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Hello Everyone:I got a call that has really upset me today. To tell you the truth everything went wrong from the time I placed my foot on the ground. I got a call from my doctor, I have completed my chemotherapy but I knew that I would be having more treatment starting January because the cancer is not gone. As you all know I just went through a mastectomy with my boss and good friend at my side. Well, Betty had a request for me and I said what and she asked if we could sit down with my doctor and discuss this next set of chemotherapy because it is going to be stronger then the ones I just went through and Betty wanted to know what she could do to help me through and what to expect from me and what responsibilities that she may need to take over for me for a while. So, I talk to the doctor and he had no problem with sitting down and talking with us and Betty was grateful. Until this morning I got a call from him saying he wouldn't do this at all Betty is not blood related and therefore none of this is her business. I told the doctor that it was because she is my support since my parents live so far from me. So now he will not see us so I told him I would be getting a second opinion and will get back with him. I also found another lump this morning as well. I was talking to Betty and she wanted me to ask if anyone has ever had problem with a doctor not talk to a friend or who ever you wanted to be with you before? Also, am I wrong for going for a second or even third opinion?The rest of the day was mainly been complaints that you get from older people from our church who feel nothing gets done right if I don't do it if you know what I mean. Also I was working on some homework and they told me the program that I was creating would never work what encouragement. I just need some encouraging words. Betty sent me home to rest she said I look tired and maybe things will go better for tonight's meeting if I rest a little so off to bed I go. Thanks for listening.Ronda

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Ronda,

Thats terrible that he won't let Betty sit in if it is your choice. Now I could see if someone just asked him without your permission. That would be a totally different story. I think he is being very unreasonable. I would go for a second and third opinion if it makes you feel better and maybe stick with one of those drs.

I am sorry you are having such a rough day. You are in my prayers.

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Hello Everyone:I got a call that has really upset me today. To tell you the truth everything went wrong from the time I placed my foot on the ground. I got a call from my doctor, I have completed my chemotherapy but I knew that I would be having more treatment starting January because the cancer is not gone. As you all know I just went through a mastectomy with my boss and good friend at my side. Well, Betty had a request for me and I said what and she asked if we could sit down with my doctor and discuss this next set of chemotherapy because it is going to be stronger then the ones I just went through and Betty wanted to know what she could do to help me through and what to expect from me and what responsibilities that she may need to take over for me for a while. So, I talk to the doctor and he had no problem with sitting down and talking with us and Betty was grateful. Until this morning I got a call from him saying he wouldn't do this at all Betty is not blood related and therefore none of this is her business. I told the doctor that it was because she is my support since my parents live so far from me. So now he will not see us so I told him I would be getting a second opinion and will get back with him. I also found another lump this morning as well. I was talking to Betty and she wanted me to ask if anyone has ever had problem with a doctor not talk to a friend or who ever you wanted to be with you before? Also, am I wrong for going for a second or even third opinion?The rest of the day was mainly been complaints that you get from older people from our church who feel nothing gets done right if I don't do it if you know what I mean. Also I was working on some homework and they told me the program that I was creating would never work what encouragement. I just need some encouraging words. Betty sent me home to rest she said I look tired and maybe things will go better for tonight's meeting if I rest a little so off to bed I go. Thanks for listening.Ronda

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I agree with Vickie. The doctor cannot tell you who you can have with you. It isn't his place or anyone else's. The next time you are in the office tell them to give you a release paper that you can list who you want to be able to get information if they call or visit with you. My sister did that for me and her daughter. Granted we are blood but she could have put the mailman down and they will not question it.

Good luck,

Sheri

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Ronda I am so sorry to hear this....my dr. when I went in for the very first visit with the surgeon talked to my friend....I was early and they took me on back so I told him that my friend would be there to be my support and to listen to what he had to say....she was late but when she got there he talked to her as if he were talking to me and explained everything to her....and she has been there for me. Tell them she is your sister and you won't be lying because she is your sister in Christ and you are covered by the same blood......so to me you are blood relatives....I call this girl my adopted daughter because about 10 years she wrote me a poem and adopted me as her mom......so hope you can get him to reconsider and if not find another dr. or even a third.....Angel Huggs and prayers are coming your way tonight as every night.....Briggs960@... wrote:

Hello Everyone:I got a call that has really upset me today. To tell you the truth everything went wrong from the time I placed my foot on the ground. I got a call from my doctor, I have completed my chemotherapy but I knew that I would be having more treatment starting January because the cancer is not gone. As you all know I just went through a mastectomy with my boss and good friend at my side. Well, Betty had a request for me and I said what and she asked if we could sit down with my doctor and discuss this next set of chemotherapy because it is going to be stronger then the ones I just went through and Betty wanted to know what she could do to help me through and what to expect from me and what responsibilities that she may need to take over for me for a while. So, I

talk to the doctor and he had no problem with sitting down and talking with us and Betty was grateful. Until this morning I got a call from him saying he wouldn't do this at all Betty is not blood related and therefore none of this is her business. I told the doctor that it was because she is my support since my parents live so far from me. So now he will not see us so I told him I would be getting a second opinion and will get back with him. I also found another lump this morning as well. I was talking to Betty and she wanted me to ask if anyone has ever had problem with a doctor not talk to a friend or who ever you wanted to be with you before? Also, am I wrong for going for a second or even third opinion?The rest of the day was mainly been complaints that you get from older people from our church who feel nothing gets done right if I don't do it if you know what I mean. Also I was working on some homework and they told me the

program that I was creating would never work what encouragement. I just need some encouraging words. Betty sent me home to rest she said I look tired and maybe things will go better for tonight's meeting if I rest a little so off to bed I go. Thanks for listening.Ronda

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It is probable with the new law about medical information being released only

with a signed release form may be what is keeping your doctor from seeing you

and your friend. My husband had to sign a release at our pharmacy so I could

pick up his medication and the pharmacy has known us for years! Recently my

mother-in-law called my father-in-law's doctor (her doctor too) for some

clarification on something and the doctor said he couldn't tell her because she

was not the patient.

I agree with Vickie and Sherri - ask for a release of information form so your

friend can be in the room with you.

>

> From: MMidget2@...

> Date: 2003/11/17 Mon PM 11:52:40 EST

> To: breastcancer2

> Subject: Re: Question

>

> I agree with Vickie. The doctor cannot tell you who you can have with you. It

> isn't his place or anyone else's. The next time you are in the office tell

> them to give you a release paper that you can list who you want to be able to

> get information if they call or visit with you. My sister did that for me and

> her daughter. Granted we are blood but she could have put the mailman down and

> they will not question it.

> Good luck,

>

> Sheri

>

>

>

>

I agree with Vickie. The doctor cannot tell you who you can have with you. It isn't his place or anyone else's. The next time you are in the office tell them to give you a release paper that you can list who you want to be able to get information if they call or visit with you. My sister did that for me and her daughter. Granted we are blood but she could have put the mailman down and they will not question it.

Good luck,

Sheri

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I have already put her name as a release from the very beginning since January of this year. I don't understand and I am so mad that I am getting a second opinion the second of December in the afternoon in-between my kettle runs. Thanks, one thing I am going to make clear to this doctor from the very beginning is that I want Betty to be informed of each step that I have to go through like he is talking to me. I hope that doesn't sound to mean. But it is my life and she has the right to know what is going with me and what she can expect from me as well. She is my friend but she is my boss as well and she doesn't want me to push myself and how will she know if the doctor won't talk to her. Thanks for listening. Love you guys!

Prayers,

Ronda

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Kerri,

I am from Muskegon about 45 minutes south of Grand Rapids. I hope this is helpful!

Sorry everyone my fingers are so numb on my left hand that sometimes I send a message before I am done. Please forgive me.

Ronda

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Good for you Ronda. Your present dr is being very unreasonable. You are in my prayers.

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I have already put her name as a release from the very beginning since January of this year. I don't understand and I am so mad that I am getting a second opinion the second of December in the afternoon in-between my kettle runs. Thanks, one thing I am going to make clear to this doctor from the very beginning is that I want Betty to be informed of each step that I have to go through like he is talking to me. I hope that doesn't sound to mean. But it is my life and she has the right to know what is going with me and what she can expect from me as well. She is my friend but she is my boss as well and she doesn't want me to push myself and how will she know if the doctor won't talk to her. Thanks for listening. Love you guys!Prayers,Ronda

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Ronda,

Where in Michigan are you from again? I think you said you were in the Detroit area, but I can't remember. I would recommend getting a second opinion at maybe Karmanos or St. 's on Moross. Hope we can meet sometime soon after the holidays of course!

Kerri

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I have already put her name as a release from the very beginning since January of this year. I don't understand and I am so mad that I am getting a second opinion the second of December in the afternoon in-between my kettle runs. Thanks, one thing I am going to make clear to this doctor from the very beginning is that I want Betty to be informed of each step that I have to go through like he is talking to me. I hope that doesn't sound to mean. But it is my life and she has the right to know what is going with me and what she can expect from me as well. She is my friend but she is my boss as well and she doesn't want me to push myself and how will she know if the doctor won't talk to her. Thanks for listening. Love you guys!Prayers,Ronda

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Ronda,

I have a friend in Grand Rapids, well actually Wyoming. Maybe when we go see her the next time, maybe we can go up to Muskegon & meet you depending on how you're feeling. I'll let you know!

Kerri

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Kerri,I am from Muskegon about 45 minutes south of Grand Rapids. I hope this is helpful!Sorry everyone my fingers are so numb on my left hand that sometimes I send a message before I am done. Please forgive me.Ronda

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Thank you Vickie,

I will let Sandy know. She is supposed to go in the morning to get what hair she has left cut off. She's been putting it off but she is ready to take that step.

Thanks,

Sheri

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-JEANA

I LIVE WITH YEAST INFECTION AND GO BUY YOU WHAT THEY CALL YEAST

GUARD ITS SUPPOSTORIES AND INSERT THEM EVERY NIGHT ALSO BUY SOME

VAGISIL POWDER AND PUT ON IT TO STOP YEAST EAT PLENTY OF YOGURT AND

THERE ALL KINDS OF THINGS I HAVE BECAUSE IT IS IN MY STOMACH AND

BOWEL TRACT I HAVE BORDER LINE DIABETICS WHY I CANT GET RID OF IT

BUT THERE SOME NEW THINGS I HAVE TO START TAKING FROM THE HEALTH

FOOD STORE THERE A VITAMIN YOU TAKE I CANT SPELL IT BUT LOOK ON YOUR

YOGURT BOTTLE ITS IN THERE START WITH A I FEEL FOR YOU AND KNOW

EXACTLY WHAT YOU GOING THROUGH UNTIL IT HEAL STAY OFF OF CARBS

BECAUSE THEY FEED YEAST

CHERYL-- In breastcancer2 , " Jeana " <jdc@v...> wrote:

> Wednesday I had the endometrial biopsy and was given a shot of

> tordol. Wednesday night I developed diahrea. Thursday I got a

yeast

> infection, and tonight I started bleeding instead of spotting. Has

> anyone else ever had this happen. I called the Dr but he is out

till

> monday, so I bought an over the counter med for the yeast

infection.

> Jeana

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