My temps (Was: Never give up)

[Guest guest]

OK - I hope this goes thru because we're having major problems with

our internet connection -- and I really need some advice. (This is

the only response I was able to access so I'll read the rest later

hopefully.)

Yes, I did notice my temp did raise when I had my cold--all the way to

97.7! I had just increased my armour dose 5 days before so I didn't

adjust it, but did add 1 adrenal (to 4 total.) And after my cold was

over, my temp did decrease again.

Here's my main question - I increased to 2 grains about 10 days ago

and my oral temp increased to 97.5 and stayed for a few days. I have

to say that I definetely felt better. Now over the past 2 days, I

feel like I've just crashed. My legs have turned to jello almost

overnight, hair loss is worse, didn't sleep as good, overall weakness.

My temp in those 2 days has went from the 97.5 to 97 to 96.2 today.

And I certainly feel it.

My next planned increase would be next Sun (2 weeks since the last

one). Should I still wait till then based on my temps and how awful I

feel?

Thanks everyone! Debbie

> I saw my temp go up after a dosage increase for a few days and then drop

> down a bit... but still be higher than what it was before the dose... So

> that seems normal, to me....

>

> As far as temp... yes... It's not unusual for the arm pit temp to be

less

> than the 'under tongue' temp. So which ever way you choose to test, be

> consistent with that location.

>

> I was taught, and it's been my experience... that arm pit temp runs

about

> 1 degree less than under tongue.

>

> Keep in mind, too, that when you are dealing with a cold, flu or

> infection that it's normal for your body temp to come up... our bodies

> increase temperature (fever) to be able to kill the illness.. so you

need

> to take that into consideration when you are tracking your temps...

>

> It seems pretty confusing.. but after you've done it for a while and

> start to see the patterns, it makes more sense. A menstruating woman

> should be able to see the slight rise during ovulation as well... A

chart

> will allow you to follow your body's normal cycles (temperature wise) as

> well as letting you know how your body is reacting to your meds.

>

> Taking more adrenal than you need can also cause problems.. so can

taking

> it at the wrong time... Personally I'd back off on the adrenal....

>

> How much did you increase the thyroid for your cold?

>

[Guest guest]

Debbie.. what you describe is similar to what I went through when my Adrenal dose was too high.... How long have you been using it? What was your starting dose? How frequent are you increases?

I'm gonna venture to say that your body is 'crashing' the same way mine did from feeling too good and forced and over doing... all because of too much adrenal to start... I kept pushing and ended up with muscle failure... actually falling down when trying to walk... I backed off the adrenal totally for two months and then started up again at a much lower dose.. that was the trick for me...

As far as another increase on the Armour.. remember... it takes 4 to 6 weeks to realize the full affect of the T4 in the Armour... increasing by too much and/or too quickly can cause you to go hyper weeks after you've started taking too much.. it can then take some time to back down....

I know it's hard to go slow... but going too fast can do more harm than good... I found out the hard way... I crashed during the folks vacation.. if I'd have injured myself in a fall... most likely no one would have noticed for a good month....

All though it was the falling that got me on line that December night two years ago... I found Bev's Immune group and those gals helped me to figure out what was wrong that night.. I was soooo scared.. that's also where and I met... just a couple of weeks later we started this group... to help save others from the horrors that we've faced.

Topper ()

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:23:32 -0000 "Debbie" writes:

OK - I hope this goes thru because we're having major problems withour internet connection -- and I really need some advice. (This isthe only response I was able to access so I'll read the rest laterhopefully.)Yes, I did notice my temp did raise when I had my cold--all the way to97.7! I had just increased my armour dose 5 days before so I didn'tadjust it, but did add 1 adrenal (to 4 total.) And after my cold wasover, my temp did decrease again. Here's my main question - I increased to 2 grains about 10 days agoand my oral temp increased to 97.5 and stayed for a few days. I haveto say that I definetely felt better. Now over the past 2 days, Ifeel like I've just crashed. My legs have turned to jello almostovernight, hair loss is worse, didn't sleep as good, overall weakness.My temp in those 2 days has went from the 97.5 to 97 to 96.2 today. And I certainly feel it.My next planned increase would be next Sun (2 weeks since the lastone). Should I still wait till then based on my temps and how awful Ifeel?Thanks everyone! Debbie

[Guest guest]

Debbie.. what you describe is similar to what I went through when my Adrenal dose was too high.... How long have you been using it? What was your starting dose? How frequent are you increases?

I'm gonna venture to say that your body is 'crashing' the same way mine did from feeling too good and forced and over doing... all because of too much adrenal to start... I kept pushing and ended up with muscle failure... actually falling down when trying to walk... I backed off the adrenal totally for two months and then started up again at a much lower dose.. that was the trick for me...

As far as another increase on the Armour.. remember... it takes 4 to 6 weeks to realize the full affect of the T4 in the Armour... increasing by too much and/or too quickly can cause you to go hyper weeks after you've started taking too much.. it can then take some time to back down....

I know it's hard to go slow... but going too fast can do more harm than good... I found out the hard way... I crashed during the folks vacation.. if I'd have injured myself in a fall... most likely no one would have noticed for a good month....

All though it was the falling that got me on line that December night two years ago... I found Bev's Immune group and those gals helped me to figure out what was wrong that night.. I was soooo scared.. that's also where and I met... just a couple of weeks later we started this group... to help save others from the horrors that we've faced.

Topper ()

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:23:32 -0000 "Debbie" writes:

OK - I hope this goes thru because we're having major problems withour internet connection -- and I really need some advice. (This isthe only response I was able to access so I'll read the rest laterhopefully.)Yes, I did notice my temp did raise when I had my cold--all the way to97.7! I had just increased my armour dose 5 days before so I didn'tadjust it, but did add 1 adrenal (to 4 total.) And after my cold wasover, my temp did decrease again. Here's my main question - I increased to 2 grains about 10 days agoand my oral temp increased to 97.5 and stayed for a few days. I haveto say that I definetely felt better. Now over the past 2 days, Ifeel like I've just crashed. My legs have turned to jello almostovernight, hair loss is worse, didn't sleep as good, overall weakness.My temp in those 2 days has went from the 97.5 to 97 to 96.2 today. And I certainly feel it.My next planned increase would be next Sun (2 weeks since the lastone). Should I still wait till then based on my temps and how awful Ifeel?Thanks everyone! Debbie

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

I agree with Topper on this. It does sound like you need to back off

of the adrenal support a bit... A little bit will go a long way for

most of us.

As for the temperature swings, this is normal during increases of

Thyroid medication. The body accepts the new dosage, gets used to it

and settles into a new range, albight not as high as the first

couple of days as the body did its adjustments, however a little bit

higher in temp than before the increase.

Finding your bodies balance takes patience...If patience is not

applied you can bajenx the whole works and have to start from ground

zero all over again.

Increasing your thyroid medication every two weeks is way too fast.

Your body is still adjusting to the last increase. It takes 4 to 6

weeks for the body to find its zone with the current dosage. Even

pro-active Doctors agree on this. Patience must be applied when it

comes to getting our bodies adjusted to this new way of living.

Gossimer

> > I saw my temp go up after a dosage increase for a few days and

then drop

> > down a bit... but still be higher than what it was before the

dose... So

> > that seems normal, to me....

> >

> > As far as temp... yes... It's not unusual for the arm pit temp

to be

> less

> > than the 'under tongue' temp. So which ever way you choose to

test, be

> > consistent with that location.

> >

> > I was taught, and it's been my experience... that arm pit temp

runs

> about

> > 1 degree less than under tongue.

> >

> > Keep in mind, too, that when you are dealing with a cold, flu or

> > infection that it's normal for your body temp to come up... our

bodies

> > increase temperature (fever) to be able to kill the illness.. so

you

> need

> > to take that into consideration when you are tracking your

temps...

> >

> > It seems pretty confusing.. but after you've done it for a while

and

> > start to see the patterns, it makes more sense. A menstruating

woman

> > should be able to see the slight rise during ovulation as

well... A

> chart

> > will allow you to follow your body's normal cycles (temperature

wise) as

> > well as letting you know how your body is reacting to your meds.

> >

> > Taking more adrenal than you need can also cause problems.. so

can

> taking

> > it at the wrong time... Personally I'd back off on the

adrenal....

> >

> > How much did you increase the thyroid for your cold?

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

I agree with Topper on this. It does sound like you need to back off

of the adrenal support a bit... A little bit will go a long way for

most of us.

As for the temperature swings, this is normal during increases of

Thyroid medication. The body accepts the new dosage, gets used to it

and settles into a new range, albight not as high as the first

couple of days as the body did its adjustments, however a little bit

higher in temp than before the increase.

Finding your bodies balance takes patience...If patience is not

applied you can bajenx the whole works and have to start from ground

zero all over again.

Increasing your thyroid medication every two weeks is way too fast.

Your body is still adjusting to the last increase. It takes 4 to 6

weeks for the body to find its zone with the current dosage. Even

pro-active Doctors agree on this. Patience must be applied when it

comes to getting our bodies adjusted to this new way of living.

Gossimer

> > I saw my temp go up after a dosage increase for a few days and

then drop

> > down a bit... but still be higher than what it was before the

dose... So

> > that seems normal, to me....

> >

> > As far as temp... yes... It's not unusual for the arm pit temp

to be

> less

> > than the 'under tongue' temp. So which ever way you choose to

test, be

> > consistent with that location.

> >

> > I was taught, and it's been my experience... that arm pit temp

runs

> about

> > 1 degree less than under tongue.

> >

> > Keep in mind, too, that when you are dealing with a cold, flu or

> > infection that it's normal for your body temp to come up... our

bodies

> > increase temperature (fever) to be able to kill the illness.. so

you

> need

> > to take that into consideration when you are tracking your

temps...

> >

> > It seems pretty confusing.. but after you've done it for a while

and

> > start to see the patterns, it makes more sense. A menstruating

woman

> > should be able to see the slight rise during ovulation as

well... A

> chart

> > will allow you to follow your body's normal cycles (temperature

wise) as

> > well as letting you know how your body is reacting to your meds.

> >

> > Taking more adrenal than you need can also cause problems.. so

can

> taking

> > it at the wrong time... Personally I'd back off on the

adrenal....

> >

> > How much did you increase the thyroid for your cold?

> >