Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 ronalda4@... wrote: >My question is this. How can a TSH be this low while I still have >symptoms of low thyroid? Sleeping at least 10 hours/day. Tired most >of the time. In short I still have all my low thyroid symptoms. I >have managed to keep my weight loss. > > > > > > It can be due to a breakdown in the hypothalamus- pituitary axis rather than a direct result of your blood levels of thyroid hormone- there are various reasons for this including a prior history of anorexia/bulima. My TSH is also low and my free t3 and free t4 are also low - so i have had a small increase in Armour but i have to focus on trying to improve the hypothalamus/pituitary feedback area with stress reduction stuff , and a sleep hygiene regime as i have long term insomnia /adrenal issues as well. Alternatively it could be due to antibodies attacking the pituitary binding sites or something to do with how your blood levels are affecting the pituitary -eg maybe taking all your armour at one time is swamping the receptor sites and giving a transient high level that is foooling the pituitary. I have been wondering if this is another reason for my suppressed TSH since although it does not correspond at all with my free t4 levels , it has only become suppresssed since i started taking Armour sublingually -- Alison http://www.alisonashwell.com new work uploaded http://www.artwanted/alisonashwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hi Carol! Some questions... Were you dxed with Hashimoto's ? Do you have the ranges for your blood tests? Also, next time you have blood work done, ask to have the Free T3 done too, as well as the Free T4 .It seems to me that your free T4 is low.We usually feel better when our Free T3 and Free T4 are in the upper quadrant of their ranges.Is that a free T3 level---if so it appears very low! The TSH is not as good a tool after started on treatment as the Free T's are.And with your symptoms too.... As to the " hive " it possibly could be related to other autoimmune disease,I am assuming that yours is autoimmune.Once we have one auto-immune, we are prone to develop more. Hugs, ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud group Co-owner www.thyrophoenix.com I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill British politician (1874 - 1965) O.OO8 TSH ??? > > > I am 59 years old. I have had low thyroid ever since I turned 13. > In those days natural thyroid was used. > After getting married and having kids I neglected to take any thyroid > at all - though I probably should have. > Then, because my symptoms of low thyroid worsened,I went back on > thyroid - This time Synthroid. > I was also treated for depression, fatigue, high chloresterol, > asthma, hair loss. > > For the last 14 years I've had chronic angiodema/urticaria (big as a > grapefruit) always in my right cheek. A Giant Hive is the best > discription I can think of. Antihystamines have no effect. Swelling > would last 3 days or more and my cheek will be reddened, hard and > itchy. At first, swellings were about 3 months apart. Most recently > they were occurring every 2 weeks. I began to fear they were about > to become permanent. Autoimmune issues suspected. Last week I had 2 > gold crowns in my lower jaw removed as a last ditch effort to find > out the cause of the swelling. > > I asked my doctor switch to Armour thyroid last April. I lost about > 20 pounds in 3 months without any change in my eating or exercise > routine and the facial swelling seemed to have stopped!!....for three > months. But then it returned to it's every two weeks schedule. > I started out taking 1 grain and then went to 2 grains but my doctor > put me back on 1 grain because of test results as follows: TSH > 0.008; T3 1.5; Free T4 1.08 > > My question is this. How can a TSH be this low while I still have > symptoms of low thyroid? Sleeping at least 10 hours/day. Tired most > of the time. In short I still have all my low thyroid symptoms. I > have managed to keep my weight loss. > Carol > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hi Carol! Some questions... Were you dxed with Hashimoto's ? Do you have the ranges for your blood tests? Also, next time you have blood work done, ask to have the Free T3 done too, as well as the Free T4 .It seems to me that your free T4 is low.We usually feel better when our Free T3 and Free T4 are in the upper quadrant of their ranges.Is that a free T3 level---if so it appears very low! The TSH is not as good a tool after started on treatment as the Free T's are.And with your symptoms too.... As to the " hive " it possibly could be related to other autoimmune disease,I am assuming that yours is autoimmune.Once we have one auto-immune, we are prone to develop more. Hugs, ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud group Co-owner www.thyrophoenix.com I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill British politician (1874 - 1965) O.OO8 TSH ??? > > > I am 59 years old. I have had low thyroid ever since I turned 13. > In those days natural thyroid was used. > After getting married and having kids I neglected to take any thyroid > at all - though I probably should have. > Then, because my symptoms of low thyroid worsened,I went back on > thyroid - This time Synthroid. > I was also treated for depression, fatigue, high chloresterol, > asthma, hair loss. > > For the last 14 years I've had chronic angiodema/urticaria (big as a > grapefruit) always in my right cheek. A Giant Hive is the best > discription I can think of. Antihystamines have no effect. Swelling > would last 3 days or more and my cheek will be reddened, hard and > itchy. At first, swellings were about 3 months apart. Most recently > they were occurring every 2 weeks. I began to fear they were about > to become permanent. Autoimmune issues suspected. Last week I had 2 > gold crowns in my lower jaw removed as a last ditch effort to find > out the cause of the swelling. > > I asked my doctor switch to Armour thyroid last April. I lost about > 20 pounds in 3 months without any change in my eating or exercise > routine and the facial swelling seemed to have stopped!!....for three > months. But then it returned to it's every two weeks schedule. > I started out taking 1 grain and then went to 2 grains but my doctor > put me back on 1 grain because of test results as follows: TSH > 0.008; T3 1.5; Free T4 1.08 > > My question is this. How can a TSH be this low while I still have > symptoms of low thyroid? Sleeping at least 10 hours/day. Tired most > of the time. In short I still have all my low thyroid symptoms. I > have managed to keep my weight loss. > Carol > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hi Carol! Some questions... Were you dxed with Hashimoto's ? Do you have the ranges for your blood tests? Also, next time you have blood work done, ask to have the Free T3 done too, as well as the Free T4 .It seems to me that your free T4 is low.We usually feel better when our Free T3 and Free T4 are in the upper quadrant of their ranges.Is that a free T3 level---if so it appears very low! The TSH is not as good a tool after started on treatment as the Free T's are.And with your symptoms too.... As to the " hive " it possibly could be related to other autoimmune disease,I am assuming that yours is autoimmune.Once we have one auto-immune, we are prone to develop more. Hugs, ThyroFeisty(Feisty)Proud group Co-owner www.thyrophoenix.com I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill British politician (1874 - 1965) O.OO8 TSH ??? > > > I am 59 years old. I have had low thyroid ever since I turned 13. > In those days natural thyroid was used. > After getting married and having kids I neglected to take any thyroid > at all - though I probably should have. > Then, because my symptoms of low thyroid worsened,I went back on > thyroid - This time Synthroid. > I was also treated for depression, fatigue, high chloresterol, > asthma, hair loss. > > For the last 14 years I've had chronic angiodema/urticaria (big as a > grapefruit) always in my right cheek. A Giant Hive is the best > discription I can think of. Antihystamines have no effect. Swelling > would last 3 days or more and my cheek will be reddened, hard and > itchy. At first, swellings were about 3 months apart. Most recently > they were occurring every 2 weeks. I began to fear they were about > to become permanent. Autoimmune issues suspected. Last week I had 2 > gold crowns in my lower jaw removed as a last ditch effort to find > out the cause of the swelling. > > I asked my doctor switch to Armour thyroid last April. I lost about > 20 pounds in 3 months without any change in my eating or exercise > routine and the facial swelling seemed to have stopped!!....for three > months. But then it returned to it's every two weeks schedule. > I started out taking 1 grain and then went to 2 grains but my doctor > put me back on 1 grain because of test results as follows: TSH > 0.008; T3 1.5; Free T4 1.08 > > My question is this. How can a TSH be this low while I still have > symptoms of low thyroid? Sleeping at least 10 hours/day. Tired most > of the time. In short I still have all my low thyroid symptoms. I > have managed to keep my weight loss. > Carol > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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