Re: Symptoms of Too Low T4 Over Time

[Guest guest]

I went on 88 mcg Levoxyl, I had almost no real

symptoms for about 3 or 4 weeks,

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This makes perfect sense. It can take up to a month to use up the

existing stores of T4 that you had in your blood before the your

thyroid removal. 88mcg of Levoxyl or Synthroid or anything is

grossly too low for the body to successfully live on. The human

thyroid makes 4-1/2 to 5 grains of Armour equivelent a day or about

333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid or Levoxyl equivelent a day. It is

imperative that you be allowed to adjust your dose up as high as

needed to regain your health. Since you do not have a thyroid, you

need full replacement and 88 mcg will not do it, no how, no way.

Your health will continue to decline on this dose untill you become

housebound and incapacitated, I guarantee it.

In the past before the TSH test became popular in the mid 1970s,

thyroid doses averaged 3 to 5 grains of Armour or 300 to 400 mcg of

Synthroid or Levoxyl. This was the average for people who had

thyroids that contributed some to their daily total. So, this means

that you could need far more. Every person is different and the

average amount of hormone a healthy thyroid makes is just

that " average. " Many people fall outside of average, as much as 25%

of people do.

Please find another more open minded doctor, who at least has enough

brains in their pin heads to have remembered how much hormone a

healthy thyroid makes. You can also treat yourself. You can do it

how it was done for 50 years before the TSH test. Thyroid patients

lived long and healthy lives prior to the TSH test. For 83 years

prior to these tests, thyroid doses were adjusted up to whatever

level that made the patient healthy and normal again. Doctors used

patient appearance, patient description of their state, body

temperature, reflex action, and pulse as guides. They simply

adjusted the thyroid dose up in small increments of about 1/2 of a

grain or 25 mcg of synthroid every 2 weeks to a month untill health

was restored. Doses from the late 1800s up untill about 1975 were 3

times higher than they are today.

To learn how to adjust your dose, check out these two pages:

http://www.drrind.com/tempgraph.asp

http://www.fudgedesign.co.uk/tuk/treat/glandulars.htm

Body temperature is a very excellent way to determine your true

metabolic rate, which is controlled by thyroid and adrenal. It is a

better test of success of treatment than the TSH test in my opinion

and in the opinion of some of the more enlightened doctors. It is a

direct measure of the adequacey of thyroid levels. TSH is an

indirect measure of thyroid function.

You can get thyroid hormone from MyRxForLess and other Mexican

pharmacies or you can order a thyroid glandular from Nutri+meds.

Each Nutri+meds contains about 1/4 grain of thyroid per tablet,

which is about the equivelent of 19 mcg of Synthroid or Levoxyl. I

would personally recommend Armour over the synthetics. If you have

any cardiovascular problems, dose raises with Armour or nutri+meds

need to be in small increments, probably 1/4 grain and wait a

minimum of 2 weeks before another raise.

If you don't want to go this route and want a doctor, Chack out the

following doctor lists:

http://thyroid.about.com/

http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/

http://www.armourthyroid.com/

To read a little about doses in the past, check out:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl11.htm

A good book on this is " Thyroid Guardian of Health " by G.

Young.

For more details on the TSH test and why it is of little use:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/david-derry.htm

To learn why you might be better off with natural thyroid like

Armour:

http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

http://www.royalrife.com/thyroid.html

The thyroid makes 7 thyroid hromones and all are needed by the body.

Synthroid is only one hormone T4 and it is relatively inactive and

must be converted in tissues to the other hormones. Many tissues in

the body are not good at converting. Synthroid and Levoxyl are less

efficient and therefore patients often need higher doses to get T3

up in the normal ranges.

Most importantly of all, you need to find a doctor who will allow

you to adjust your dose up to wherever you need it to feel well, be

healthy, and have a productive life. This seems so simple, but,

today, it is a very difficult thing to do. Doctors seem to have lost

so much knowledge about thyroid function.

Tish

[Guest guest]

, I take Levoxyl very early in the AM, at least 1 hour before I

eat. I take the Levoxyl w/water, I don't do it sublingually (yet). I

usually eat 3 squares a day, not much snacking in between, but some.

I take a multivitamin daily (Centrum Silver + Vit E (400IU) + Vitamin

C (500mg)).

Thanks for any advice you can offer. For what it's worth, I don't

mind you getting carried away at all. Nick

[Guest guest]

, I take Levoxyl very early in the AM, at least 1 hour before I

eat. I take the Levoxyl w/water, I don't do it sublingually (yet). I

usually eat 3 squares a day, not much snacking in between, but some.

I take a multivitamin daily (Centrum Silver + Vit E (400IU) + Vitamin

C (500mg)).

Thanks for any advice you can offer. For what it's worth, I don't

mind you getting carried away at all. Nick

[Guest guest]

I have not tracked any basals yet. As far as sleep, I used to sleep

soundly all night before all of this began. Now, since surgery

(actually even before surgery) I sleep " lightly " , waking up thru the

night alot. I still feel like I've gotten enought rest, but the sleep

pattern is totally different; more like alot of catnaps. Nick